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Nov 6, 2013 6:37 PM

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Great episode and a 5/5 unless you get it.

While the episode was quite hilarious and full of fun moments, particularly the idol dance, with such a pointless event, the flashback shots of their attempt to perfect the dance over a whole week during the actual performance just showed how they have formed an even stronger bond than they had before and became much closer. :)
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Nov 6, 2013 6:44 PM
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What a funny reverse parody of KyoAni haters.....

Anyway, this episode was interesting from an educational point of view. It shows how an episode can, when viewed in isolation, be very enjoyable, while at the same time be disastrous in terms of it being part of a series. Someone above wrote that this should have been an OVA, they are absolutely correct: from a story telling perspective this episode shouldn't have been here.

Last week I wrote: "Its these things that take away from this show; they also are trying to jam too many genres into this series (supernatural, fighting, slice of life, tragic, pathos, humor (both dry and gag), school life, fetish and probably a half dozen other ones), this show could stand a bit tightening on this part."

This episode was this on steroids. It completely destroyed any ambiance this series had. The Excitement and mystery from episode 4? Gone. The character development from episode 5? Gone. This show has lost its raison d'etre. Mirai is completely integrated, any attempt to bring back her traumatic upbringing will feel strange, likewise any seriousness when they finally get around to the main gist of the story; this is a comedy now, a supernatural K-On, they have locked themselves in there and any attempt to do something different will be as pointless as trying to do a dramatic K-On series.

This episode can't even be counted as "filler", filler is suppose to bridge between two points, as such these episodes maintain the mood of what happened before and what will happen next: that is the whole point of being filler - it this mood is maintained, then, no matter how horrific the filler was, it was successful. This episode wasn't "filler" because it was so totally at odds with the mood of the story. You can do that after a series is over, but it is death to do during a series. If the writer actually requested that they do this here, he really should have his head examined. Again, as an OVA this would have been a great episode, but far from gaining interest, I predict that the orders will decrease (though given the low predictions it already has maybe not).

Now this doesn't mean that the series can't be saved, fantastic episodes from here on out can redeem the show, but this is feeling like it is heading towards Tamako level sales, not the 8-10K or plus sales this show, if done right, could have garnered.
 
Nov 6, 2013 6:49 PM

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Absolutely hilarious filler episode. And yes, this was the episode I enjoyed the most out of the 6 so far...

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Nov 6, 2013 6:53 PM
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LOL!!
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i don't know how this episode affects the story development, but it's a surprise and very refreshing episode!!
kyoani sure know how to make a best quality anime!!!
 
Nov 6, 2013 6:59 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

Now this doesn't mean that the series can't be saved, fantastic episodes from here on out can redeem the show, but this is feeling like it is heading towards Tamako level sales, not the 8-10K or plus sales this show, if done right, could have garnered.


Knowing the Kyoani fanbase it wouldn't take much for sure. Honestly I'm still anticipating this episode as a huge turnaround for the show. This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I could see Japan just going nuts for and immediately registering their preorders.
 
Nov 6, 2013 7:04 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

Anyway, this episode was interesting from an educational point of view. It shows how an episode can, when viewed in isolation, be very enjoyable, while at the same time be disastrous in terms of it being part of a series. Someone above wrote that this should have been an OVA, they are absolutely correct: from a story telling perspective this episode shouldn't have been here.


This. If this was an OVA, it would have been fine. It's only a 13-episode show and we're already at episode 6 so I wasn't expecting something so, for lack of better word, pointless at this point. What was its purpose? I get that adapting a more light-hearted approach after a serious(ish) episode is common but this one is just...it's so out of place. Sure I had a few good laughs specifically the dancing youmu in the beginning and the dog. I guess my enthusiasm was curbed simply because all the while I was watching the show I was thinking "WTH this is so out of place." The plot is already shallow (or probably just poorly written and executed?), I really don't think this episode was necessary.
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Nov 6, 2013 7:11 PM
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Knowing the Kyoani fanbase it wouldn't take much for sure. Honestly I'm still anticipating this episode as a huge turnaround for the show. This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I could see Japan just going nuts for and immediately registering their preorders.


You know, you were making so many salient points earlier, but you had to go ruin it by letting your obsession get the better of you. That Tamako Market bombed should have shown you that your "KyoAni fantatic" doesn't exist. KyoAni does do a bit better for equivalent type shows, but that is because KyoAni has good name recognition. In this they are similar to Disney: they can release crap for a decade or two, but still sell far more than better shows merely because they are Disney. Parents will buy KyoAni because they know what they are getting: fairly tame entertainment.

While I don't think that KnK will bomb as much as Tamako, this is because it does have some very good animation and in the end, anime is a visual medium and people will buy it solely for that reason. I am seeing this show doing 2-3K, maybe a bit higher if they maintain the consistency of the first four episodes from here on out, but they would need a serious bump in story to get anything outside of that.

You man be right about a jump in preorders after this episode, but that will most probably be trolling, not actual orders.
 
Nov 6, 2013 7:20 PM
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I get that adapting a more light-hearted approach after a serious(ish) episode is common but this one is just...it's so out of place.


I wanted to highlight this to stress this point. Actually the last episode was not the "serious" episode, that was episode 4, episode 5 was fairly light-hearted (with some somber overtones, but not that much). So even worse, not only would this episode be out of place even as a light hearted episode after the "serious" episode, it wasn't even that. Had this been episode 5 it would have been disruptive, but a strong episode 6 would have made up for it, but in his actually followed a relatively calm episode 5 really compounded the problem.
 
Nov 6, 2013 7:29 PM
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So, they failed to beat the monster. Does this means that Mitsuki will stink for the rest of 13 episodes?
 
Nov 6, 2013 7:36 PM

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I must apologize for last week's comment...

THIS is the weirdest filler ever!
KyoAni is really going all the way down with this series.
 
Nov 6, 2013 7:37 PM

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I said it before and I'll say it again: once KyoAni stops pretending their characters have interesting backstories the show becomes much more enjoyable.

Their performance at the end already outdid whatever White Album 2 is going to do in terms of visuals.

And we got more Mitsuki cuteness~ so this episode was almost perfect (because, you know, there was no progress in the plot whatsoever)

That purple eye will become my new avatar...
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Nov 6, 2013 7:51 PM

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This episode was so funny.
The sparkle and then vomit form Hiroomi was funny.
That monster exploding every time ,the visits to the shower ,( good times)

Idol ,Mirai when she first sang was great horrible but after a week wow she improved.
 
Nov 6, 2013 8:01 PM

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that...... was really really entertaining oh my goodness
i seriously was NOT expecting that in the end and i was muttering to myself "what is going on...." but it was still really fun.
it was especially great seeing the boys dancing ehhehe
but that ending...............failure
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Nov 6, 2013 8:22 PM

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Oh god........
The way they danced!
So freaking kawaii!!!!!!!! x3

Anyways.......it's too bad that they didn't even kill the damn Youmu....but whatever. xD

Great episode, as usual. :3
 
Nov 6, 2013 8:29 PM

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Aloxamax said:
I said it before and I'll say it again: once KyoAni stops pretending their characters have interesting backstories the show becomes much more enjoyable.

Their performance at the end already outdid whatever White Album 2 is going to do in terms of visuals.

And we got more Mitsuki cuteness~ so this episode was almost perfect (because, you know, there was no progress in the plot whatsoever)

That purple eye will become my new avatar...


Too bad White Album 2 has infinitely more likeable and interesting characters than this and is actually about musical performances so it really doesn't matter. Not that people really seem to care about this sort of thing anymore though. As long as it looks nice and is cute it's better right?
 
Nov 6, 2013 8:45 PM

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Nov 6, 2013 9:03 PM

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That was fun. Kudos to KyoAni for some wonderful artwork and animation. I guess all that posing for photographs was good for something. They were all great but Kuriyama was dazzling. Best dance choreography since Hare Hare Youkai. I hope they put together and animate the full song. Then they could put it on iTunes for a couple of bucks.
 
Nov 6, 2013 9:04 PM

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I was nearly moved by their performance with flash backs and all, but I could not help but anticipate the punch line where they forgot who is going to attack the youmu.

lol

great episode.
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Nov 6, 2013 9:20 PM
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I think I died a little inside when Ai came in and danced. Dat kawaiiness (*´▽`*)
 
Nov 6, 2013 9:22 PM

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So much greatness in one episode, that was hilarious.



 
Nov 6, 2013 9:41 PM

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Defeat it with moe. Man that was great. Amazing animation too.
 
Nov 6, 2013 9:59 PM

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Great ep and was i the only one who felt like that Youmu when the song and dance was going on?
 
Nov 6, 2013 9:59 PM

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Was a little too silly. Although Ai was pretty cute at the end. Also those fan service shower scenes.
 
Nov 6, 2013 10:09 PM

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I feel like this episode was inconsistent with the tone the series has presented thus far, but who cares! This episode dished out the best comedy I've seen this season.

5/5
 
Nov 6, 2013 10:20 PM

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i lost it 100% at the montage during the performance and then Ai jumped in and made it more crazy

best filler/troll episode ever.

poor smelly Mitsuki
 
Nov 6, 2013 10:39 PM

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This felt like a filler episode...but at least a good one. I laughed my ass off at several scenes and I lost it at the end when they broke out into a choreographed song and dance...and then the very end when they didn't plan the most important part.
 
Nov 6, 2013 10:48 PM

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Best episode.lol that idol show and those flashbacks,LOVED IT XD
 
Nov 6, 2013 11:06 PM

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Enojayable, but it felt so out of place compared to the previous episodes
That Yomou was never catched right?
 
Nov 6, 2013 11:26 PM

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This should have been put into an ova instead of the anime. But I guess kyoanis trying to boost sales with idol dancing. After all, sales mean almost everything to the studios.
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Nov 6, 2013 11:27 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Did I miss something hear or am I just thinking about this more clearly and recognizing patterns with this show more than most?


Did you consider that maybe some people aren't cynical? You go on and on, speaking as if KyoAni owes you something. None of us are actually sheeps. If you keep acting as though everyone is blind, that you're one of the only enlightened few who can see this "forced humor," then you're just making yourself look like a crotchy old man.
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Nov 6, 2013 11:27 PM
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To be honest, I think this was best episode of the show so far given that the story is...well...I think that says it all.

I don't actually mind they throw what little plot they have aside for episodes like this.
 
Nov 6, 2013 11:54 PM

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This was quite a funny episode. Loved the formation of the idol group at the end. That song was really good. Funny how no was there to defeat it after it was completely distracted.
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Nov 7, 2013 12:03 AM

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Hilarious episode, made me laugh a lot. All that work for nothing.
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Nov 7, 2013 12:20 AM

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What an episode, too funny!
 
Nov 7, 2013 12:43 AM

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Very enjoyable episode. First it was Kekkaishi, then it was like Chuunibyou and now it's Idolmaster.
Kentaro Miura need to watch this show.
 
Nov 7, 2013 12:53 AM

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I was already wondering who was going to kill that youmu when they started dancing and singing.
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Nov 7, 2013 1:51 AM

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It was okay, hilarious episode but that ending... wtf. Yaaaah do hardwork dis and dat den he explodes anyway. Highlight of this epi was Ai
 
Nov 7, 2013 1:57 AM

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I love it!
especially in Yakusoku no Kizuna song!
 
Nov 7, 2013 2:33 AM

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Not gonna lie, this might favourite episode yet. I know this is filler and a much more typical KyoAni-style comedy. ... but it just feels more natural that the dramatic episodes to me. Can't resist the moe stuff, yes, but I don't think they can balance them at the level this show tries to and make it without rapid tone-shifts.
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Nov 7, 2013 3:01 AM

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Akihito: Hiromi, I just remembered something.
Hiromi: What is it?
Akihito: If I remember right, Kuriyama-san told me that she's a horrible singer.
Hiromi: Akkey...
Akihito: Hmmm
Hiromi: It's too late.

I love this episode :)
 
Nov 7, 2013 3:33 AM
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This showed what Kyoani does their best at, also showed that this is the only thing they are capable of.
 
Nov 7, 2013 4:10 AM
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This episode has enough material to make up an entire 12-episode anime LOL =)))))
 
Nov 7, 2013 4:25 AM

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wtf... well i didn't expect this to be some idol show...
although this episode wasn't THAT bad, at least had some somewhat funny moments.
but i still have the problem that i don't care about any of the characters at all and the plot is wishy-washy :/ guess it's only turning into a slice-of-life after all..
 
Nov 7, 2013 5:15 AM

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This episode was the the most absurd kind of enjoyment that I was expecting from Kill la Kill.

Episode of the season.
 
Nov 7, 2013 5:21 AM

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5/5

Very enjoyable! It surprised me a bit, the direction of this episode was excellent!

Can someone tell me if it was a filler or not? nevermind I got it
 
Nov 7, 2013 5:45 AM

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KyoAni getting desperate by inserting Instant Success Guaranteed Just Add Idols, or were they just have fun? Either way, it was a surprisingly funny and entertaining episode, the bad writing that plagues this show wasn't that obvious this time around. Well done. 4/5.

Ps: Idols, who are secretly ghost exterminators. Found it!
 
Nov 7, 2013 5:48 AM
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Moeoverload... hnnng... And that final weapon was just.... unexpectedly... cute. I think I lost a lot of blood.
 
Nov 7, 2013 5:51 AM

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What...the...hell?! OMG!! Not only did I laugh out a lung, but I think I ruptured my spleen as well. And Hiromi...ROFL!!!
 
Nov 7, 2013 6:11 AM
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Funniest episode in this season so far I think... Lol.
Almost literally ROFLed... Kuriyama's singing was dam funny!
 
Nov 7, 2013 6:51 AM

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Funny episode really liked their failures for the most part, thank god for mute function tho because the last part of the episode was just unnecessary i really dislike scenes like that.
On the other hand the question that remains is did they defeat the Youmu.
 
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