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Nov 2, 2013 8:27 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Shinobu <333 and her stories. Loved her interactions with Araragi-kun. Shinobu's past sure was something. Dat village drama.
 
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Nov 2, 2013 9:07 AM

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yeahh.. I see the RAW has out :3 got the wrong idea of course :p
gonna wait the sub of course :3
and.. yeah.. I see it is gonna be an awesome episode..
those stories.. I'm sure gonna love it! XD

After so much hard moment pass.~~
finally I can watch this episode just now :3
well.. that was quite the story.. not really different with the LN :3
but if I'm not wrong that samurai guy was smiling when on fire :3
anyway.. :3
I wonder what will happen with hachikuji next! XD
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Nov 2, 2013 10:00 AM
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I don't see any raws yet.
 
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Nov 2, 2013 10:47 AM

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This episode was okay I guess. Nice learning about Shinobu's past, but I kinda wish they did it in a different way. I honestly might of liked it more if they at least had some type of flashback scenes instead of the stills. The storytelling was alright but got somewhat boring at times. Regardless, the stories were still interesting.
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Nov 2, 2013 10:50 AM
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Yeah, but it's already better then just reading the whole things.
 
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Nov 2, 2013 10:54 AM

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mugimugi said:
Yeah, but it's already better then just reading the whole things.

Definitely lol. That's a given.
 
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Nov 2, 2013 12:03 PM

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Pretty cool ep, I liked the story told using japanese art, and Shinobu looks great in them. For some reason when the ep started I wanted a Shinobu sung OP. XD
 
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Nov 2, 2013 12:09 PM
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FUCK, Wtf did they jump to a Shinbo back story, instead of finishing the Nadeko Medusa part?!
 
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Nov 2, 2013 12:50 PM
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Her background story was eccentric as expected. I had expected revelation about the darkness, but it seemed like revelation itself was unimportant plot-wise.

The visual was impressive. I liked the oriental style.
 
Nov 2, 2013 1:04 PM

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yeahh.. I see the RAW has out :3
gonna wait the sub of course :3
and.. yeah.. I see it is gonna be an awesome episode..
those stories.. I'm sure gonna love it! XD

This is just spam, there is no need for you to write this.
 
Nov 2, 2013 1:11 PM

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So we finally got to find out about Shinobu's first visit to Japan and her first minion. Her first minion was a lot more tragic than it sounded when she first mentioned it back in Kizu. Pretty good nonetheless, even though it felt like it dragged on from time to time.

And I'm surprised people here, and the previous episode's discussion are complaining about this arc and wants to find out what happened w/ Nadeko. Even though that most of these same people complained months ago on wondering what happened w/ Koyomi during Neko Shiro.
 
Nov 2, 2013 1:37 PM

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It's story time wiv Shinobu!

Don't forget to stay after the credits, by the way.
 
Nov 2, 2013 3:19 PM

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A pretty nice episode, though I feel something is missing.
Well, Shinobu's part is over, now to the next part of the story.
 
Nov 2, 2013 5:00 PM

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FUCK, Wtf did they jump to a Shinbo back story, instead of finishing the Nadeko Medusa part?!

just patient :3
 
Nov 2, 2013 5:53 PM

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Shinobu talked and talked and talked. I wonder what the commentary would be like for this episode. This already feels like a commentary... What is there to comment about. = =|
 
Nov 2, 2013 7:34 PM

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just watched it...

so basically because she stays in an area too long, she creates the darkness which sucks everyone in? what does this have to do with mayoi?
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Nov 2, 2013 8:10 PM

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Good that we got to know about Shinobu's past.
 
Nov 2, 2013 8:33 PM

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That was so incredibly interesting. I really liked the storybook artwork for Shinobu's backstory. And of course, a whole episode of Shinobu talking is always a good thing.
 
Nov 2, 2013 8:49 PM

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Another amazing episode.
Got really good after the ED.
 
Nov 2, 2013 8:54 PM

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Kurogashi said:

wut is this route you speak of?
fan serviceuuuuu???


Original route = follow the original novel plot
Alternative route = anime original plot
 
Nov 2, 2013 11:18 PM

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That was a fantastic episode...boy did this series need a shot in the arm. The last few episodes have been meh.

Great art, great music, and a very interesting story. Loved it.
 
Nov 2, 2013 11:28 PM

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This felt like 5min episode.It was awesome tho, always wanted to hear about some of Shinobu's past.
 
Nov 3, 2013 12:02 AM

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And that is how shinobu came to be.

Great episode!!!
 
Nov 3, 2013 12:25 AM

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Great ep as always. That story was indeed intriguing.
 
Nov 3, 2013 1:13 AM

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Nov 3, 2013 1:52 AM
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Oh shit, they could have just placed Shinbo's past in ep.19.

Damn, them producers.
 
Nov 3, 2013 1:23 AM
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Oi, oi. What the hell ? That's all ? This episode concludes the arc ? What about the shadow and all ?
 
Nov 3, 2013 1:45 AM
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Shinobu has a unique storytelling style. She keeps glossing over the important points, but still makes it interesting so you don't mind when she has to repeat it with better detail.

That super jump from Antartica, though XD....
 
Nov 3, 2013 1:52 AM

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OMG this episode was awesome!
I think it's mostly because my favorite character in the monogatari series is actually Kiss-shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade, and not Shinobu herself. Her overwhelming presence just radiates power, and I'm likening her back story to folk legends. The only shame is hearing about her first subordinate. In Kizumonogatari, it was heavily hinted that her relationship with him was romantic, and while her feelings towards him might be considered romantic in a beautifully tragic way, I'm sad that it was replicated, and that it also wasn't very long. His death seemed almost immediate as well.
 
Nov 3, 2013 2:05 AM
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shinobu back story
 
Nov 3, 2013 2:48 AM

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Slightly better than reading the original novel, this arc doesn't deserve more than 3 episodes.
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Nov 3, 2013 3:10 AM

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Baddie007 said:
FUCK, Wtf did they jump to a Shinbo back story, instead of finishing the Nadeko Medusa part?!


Because it's the same in novels. Wait for Koimoniogatari. It'll be finished there.
 
Nov 3, 2013 3:32 AM

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Slightly better than reading the original novel, this arc doesn't deserve more than 3 episodes.


I just have to agree with you here.
 
Nov 3, 2013 3:44 AM

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So... is Onimonogatari finished already? I thought it was supposed to explain what Koyomi was doing during Neko White.

Anyway, fine episode, though Shinobu wasn't as funny as usual. I mean, she talked for the whole ep and there wasn't a single "Ka ka" laugh :(
Well, I guess backstories are serious business.
 
Nov 3, 2013 3:53 AM

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No, it's not. There are 12 or 11 chapters left.
 
Nov 3, 2013 4:07 AM

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Ok, that makes more sense. I was misled by Koyomi's last words.
 
Nov 3, 2013 4:21 AM
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I feel like we should have gotten Kizumonogatari as a film a long time ago. I felt like this since Neko kuro, but more then ever after this.
 
Nov 3, 2013 4:29 AM
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While just focusing exclusively on her narration felt a little heavy for an entire episode, I absolutely loved the art and the way the animation flowed sideways. I also got more of a sense of the deep loneliness and isolation that the vampire/deity lifestyle has had for Shinobu, and how in turn this means that the relationship she has with Araragi is something she'll prioritize a lot in her life.
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Nov 3, 2013 6:03 AM

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Welp. That felt like 3 minutes. I'm still getting amazed at how good Monogatari is at story-telling,

Same here.When the ed stared I was like NO NO NO,then I saw that there were 5 more mins.Is there any reason they do this?

When Shinobu said she escaped to Antarctica without mentioning the apparition killer my reaction was the same as Koyomi's.

NSFW.....maybe...
http://i.imgur.com/nQ8kS62.jpg
This alone makes up for the lack of an animated-flashback
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I feel like we should have gotten Kizumonogatari as a film a long time ago. I felt like this since Neko kuro, but more then ever after this.

We should have gotten it before Nise,not because of the order but because of scenes like the one in the bath.
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Nov 3, 2013 6:05 AM

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I was hoping for more from the start of this arc. The back-story was awesome but having the whole episode being narrated directly from Shonobu felt like it killed a lot of the impact and made it drag, there was hardly any animation between the slow panning stills either. The art was amazing but I feel like they relied way too much on their "style" this episode and the content suffered.
 
Nov 3, 2013 6:19 AM

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Nov 3, 2013 7:07 AM

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Shaft presented a 400 year picture book in an awesome way as expected
Such depth and witty dialogues were certainly intriguing
 
Nov 3, 2013 7:10 AM

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I didn't much like the art style or the pacing of the episode. I hope the next few are pretty good, but at least it wasn't a recap like the last several.
 
Nov 3, 2013 7:42 AM

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Loved the way this ep was done.

Shinobu is <3

Made me want to read Kizu again hehe

Also loving the OST. Anyone know what it's name is?
 
Nov 3, 2013 7:55 AM

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Is there a meaning behind her name?
Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade

He did not call her Heart Under Blade. He did not call her Acerola Orion, he called her Kiss-shot. Just like Araragi does.

Was this explained anywhere? Unless it was from Kizu.
 
Nov 3, 2013 8:54 AM

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Yes finally some insight into Shinobu's past! One of the most interesting episodes ever aired imo.
I'm going to be so emotionally lost after this series is finished. Nothing will fill it's void
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Shinobu's story about her first time to Japan was pretty interesting, and a bad ending something we definitely need more in anime.
Araragi's reactions towards to story was somewhat surprising but will he understand the meaning of the darkness that was following them or will he still need someone to explain it to him.
From what i could tell it was mostly Shinobu's story and when she encountered it but there wasn't much talk about what the darkness does.
 
Nov 3, 2013 9:30 AM

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Great episode. It was good to know more about Shinobu's backstory.
 
Nov 3, 2013 10:11 AM

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NSFW.....maybe...
http://i.imgur.com/nQ8kS62.jpg
This alone makes up for the lack of an animated-flashback

Oh look, it's my new wallpaper.
 
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Is there a meaning behind her name?
Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade

He did not call her Heart Under Blade. He did not call her Acerola Orion, he called her Kiss-shot. Just like Araragi does.

Was this explained anywhere? Unless it was from Kizu.


THEORY TIME! Read this!

Can't say if I'm right or right. Nah, I'm probably overanalyzing.
 
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