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Oct 23, 2013 12:27 AM
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I definitely agree that Animate is one good example of anime shops but I think here when people talk about anime shops they mean places where anime BD/DVD can be bought so it would include doujin shops like Tora no Ana as well. And I am not sure if Animate had the as many female customers by proportion in the past as now. While Animate now has an environment that makes it easy for female customers to go, I think for most places that sell anime BD/DVD (which is where we started talking about male/female customers here) tend to have overwhelmingly male customers.

As for DVD, I think hpulley and I would all agree that there is the question of price. However as for how widespread the players, I think while we can quote this as a major factor back in 2008 or 2009, over the years male otaku have largely shifted to BDs while female fans and mainstream consumers till buy more DVDs than BDs. This mean the spread of the players is a symptom - there should be deeper reason behind why BD players are not more widespread except in some areas like the male otaku. I always read in places 2ch where people claim that there is no point in buying DVD because the current digital TV already offers better video quality than DVD, but clearly many people do not notice the difference and thus go for the cheaper DVD than the more expensive BD.

As for whether female otaku are open or not, I think it all depends. I have read articles where women were interviewed about hiding their anime and manga hobby from everyone. What I sense is that people are more open than the past (say 10 years or 20 years ago) and this is the same for male and female otaku, but still there are quite a bit of stigma regarding the otaku label. You are right in saying that it is more tricky in a relationship for males if they revealed to be an otaku, but I am sure that unless the other side is also an anime/manga fan, a female otaku could also hit problem if her hobby is exposed. As for girls talking Hetalia loudly but guys talk K-On only quietly, I guess it has more to do with ojiisan talking K-On could be viewed as kimoi hentai while girls loving ikemen manga is considered normal?


Thank you your reply and I am sorry for I said some absurd things. I had not read your former post in detail other than the one which I replied.You mentioned cost and other things in former posts.
 
Oct 23, 2013 12:40 AM

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Thank you your reply and I am sorry for I said some absurd things. I had not read your former post in detail other than the one which I replied.You mentioned cost and other things in former posts.
In fact you have brought up a lot of valid points and I do not think we are far apart in our understanding of the female anime fans in Japan and their behavior. I enjoyed the discussion a lot. Hope to see you more in future!


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Modified by ThangLong, Oct 24, 2013 7:59 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Oct 23, 2013 3:16 AM

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Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 22.

DVD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **2 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gintama Movie (2013)
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **8 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Milky Holmes no Tokubetsu Jugyou
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

BD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** **4 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** **5 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *10 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**2 *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
**9 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!4
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2
*15 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3
Modified by Ejc, Oct 23, 2013 3:23 AM
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Oct 23, 2013 3:56 AM

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Ejc said:
Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 22.

DVD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **2 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gintama Movie (2013)
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **8 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Milky Holmes no Tokubetsu Jugyou
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

BD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** **4 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** **5 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *10 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**2 *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
**9 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!4
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2
*15 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3


This is one of those brutal weeks, I wonder who among these would make it in the prelim list
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that reminds me I really need to watch the Hanasaku Iroha movie
 
Oct 23, 2013 4:06 AM
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mistress_kisara said:
Ejc said:
Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 22.

DVD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **2 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gintama Movie (2013)
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **8 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Milky Holmes no Tokubetsu Jugyou
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

BD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** **4 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** **5 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *10 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**2 *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
**9 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!4
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2
*15 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3


This is one of those brutal weeks, I wonder how many would make it in the prelim list


Dang, I expected SnK Vol 4 sales to drop when Monogatari 2nd Season vol 1 came out, but god damned. Shingeki shouldn't have run out of steam on its second week, it sold less copies than Kimi No Iru Machi. I understand it selling less than blockbuster titles like Railgun but KnIM? That's surprising. Any chance that SnK is just having a shortage of copies for today?
 
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Regarding SnK 4 it is in stock at amazon. I think it is just the second week, the daily amount won't be as much as release day for other titles. Even Kimi no iru machi...

The funny one on that list is Valvrave 5 selling less than Yuyushiki 6, what??? On amazon it says Valvrave 5 ships in 1-2 months!

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00DNJL33S
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Regarding DVDs and price, I'm not sure how much price comes into it today. I mean, for many shows the difference is only 1000 yen! Why pay 6000 yen for DVD when you can get BD for 7000 yen???

I think the resolution argument is a good one too. Why would I buy Diabolik Lovers DVDs to watch at 480p when I can watch it on TV in HD? Not on my buy list for that reason, and because it would be a pain to import it given the way they are selling it. But I'm a gaijin guy so they don't really care about me, I am not in their target market at all.

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Regarding CDs, I can list the ones that interested me this season and past seasons but this isn't the right place for it. My personal preferences aren't really of interest here.

I suppose the real question for this forum is, how are sales overall season by season for ranking discs, CDs and BDs? That's something I must say I don't see on any of the sales tracking forums, total disc sales. Just a spreadsheet sum forumla column away I presume, not sure how meaningful they will be but could be interesting to look at after the fact... seeing so many shows where the anime is not going to pay for itself asks the question, then why make anime? The CDs and other merch are obviously part of the equation, too bad we can't easily track the overall sales as it would be interesting to know how the industry is doing overall. Probably very expensive to purchase that kind of analysis that would combine sales of adapted materials, CDs, figures, dakimakura, BD/DVDs... One assumes they must be making profit as they continue to make something like 30 shows/season. If there was no profit I expect we would get less shows, more evidence they would only put money into guaranteed hits if there is such a thing.
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Oct 23, 2013 4:19 AM
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hpulley said:
Regarding DVDs and price, I'm not sure how much price comes into it today. I mean, for many shows the difference is only 1000 yen! Why pay 6000 yen for DVD when you can get BD for 7000 yen???

I think the resolution argument is a good one too. Why would I buy Diabolik Lovers DVDs to watch at 480p when I can watch it on TV in HD?


Why pay 7000 for BD when you can get DVD for 6000 yen? Why would you buy Diabolik Lovers BDs to watch in HD when you can watch it in 480p? Obviously the female market doesn't care about video quality as much as you do.
 
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hpulley said:
Regarding DVDs and price, I'm not sure how much price comes into it today. I mean, for many shows the difference is only 1000 yen! Why pay 6000 yen for DVD when you can get BD for 7000 yen???

I think the resolution argument is a good one too. Why would I buy Diabolik Lovers DVDs to watch at 480p when I can watch it on TV in HD?


Why pay 7000 for BD when you can get DVD for 6000 yen? Why would you buy Diabolik Lovers BDs to watch in HD when you can watch it in 480p? Obviously the female market doesn't care about video quality as much as you do.
I just want, need something more when I buy it on disc than when I saw it. Otherwise, why buy it? I need better video quality than broadcast with the fixups and extra, some physical extras. When I get nothing but a disc in a case I feel ripped off unless there are really, Really, REALLY good on-disc extras.

If the most basic thing, the video quality, isn't better than what I saw... then why bother? Obviously as you say I am not in the target market for this one.
 
Oct 23, 2013 6:34 AM

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Oh wow, Nagi no Asukara made a big jump from 1,851 to 91 in Stalker.
Was there a bonus announced or something?
 
Oct 23, 2013 6:50 AM

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^^^ No bonus that I can see on the official twitter or anime site pages of Nagi no Asukara. Perhaps order trolling? New episode isn't out until tomorrow.

There was an announcement of a signed script lottery, details to be on the web page Friday. You need to apply while episode 5 is airing, perhaps something from the episode you need to send in. But that wouldn't affect disc sales.
 
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Dang, I expected SnK Vol 4 sales to drop when Monogatari 2nd Season vol 1 came out, but god damned. Shingeki shouldn't have run out of steam on its second week, it sold less copies than Kimi No Iru Machi. I understand it selling less than blockbuster titles like Railgun but KnIM? That's surprising. Any chance that SnK is just having a shortage of copies for today?


It sold less on it's 8th day than KnIM did on its first, yes. Remember that a large chunk of sales (including the vast majority of pre-orders) will be in that one day of sales for KnIM and all the other new titles on that list.It's not SnK having a shortage of sales, it's those series getting a spike of sales while for SnK it's just another day.
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I thought SnK vol 4 would have done a bit better considering ost 2 was included if I'm not mistaken...


OST2 was only included as a first press bonus in limited quantities, if you weren't lucky you didn't get it
 
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Ejc said:
Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 22.

DVD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **2 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gintama Movie (2013)
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **8 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Milky Holmes no Tokubetsu Jugyou
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

BD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** **4 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** **5 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** **6 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *10 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *11 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *12 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**2 *20 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
**9 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!4
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2
*15 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3


This is one of those brutal weeks, I wonder who among these would make it in the prelim list
If it is just the above then the BD 20 list can accommodate all of them, but we also have the titles going to be released on the 25th: (I am listing just those with >2k predicted by Stalker for BD sales)
- Yamato 2199 v7
- Yamoto yo Towa ni
- Gargantia v3
- Date A Live v6
- MJP v5
- Nyaruko2 v6
- Full Metal Panic BD Box
- Karneval v6
- Fate/kaleid Illya v2
- Love Lab v2
- Uchouten Kazoku v2



hpulley said:
seeing so many shows where the anime is not going to pay for itself asks the question, then why make anime? The CDs and other merch are obviously part of the equation, too bad we can't easily track the overall sales as it would be interesting to know how the industry is doing overall. Probably very expensive to purchase that kind of analysis that would combine sales of adapted materials, CDs, figures, dakimakura, BD/DVDs... One assumes they must be making profit as they continue to make something like 30 shows/season. If there was no profit I expect we would get less shows, more evidence they would only put money into guaranteed hits if there is such a thing.
Clearly there are a lot of things we don't know about the business model, though the fact that we are seeing MORE not fewer anime series every season compared to a few years ago means that somehow the business model works, even though we can be sure that some indeed flopped and lost money. What we can also be sure is that there is no way these days that the success of an anime is dependent solely on just the anime BD/DVD sales. If the BD/DVD sales are good, then of course it is a success, but even if it sold poorly the anime could still be considered a success by the production committee if profit comes from other sources, some of them may even be not so direct (if the anime is intended as a marketing tool just serves as an expense not a means to make money). And even if we want to talk about anime studio, instead of the production committee, we don't know how much cut, if any, the studio gets from the BD/DVD sales or merchandise sales.
Modified by symbv, Oct 23, 2013 10:05 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Xinception, you can ignore rankings for a release after its first week. It doesn't mean a whole lot after that. Heck it doesn't even mean a log after its first few days. I'm sure Shingeki v4 will still have the series' usual strong wk2 sales.
Indeed. In fact I would say it would even serve as a reliable guide to gauge the performance of other titles. If those titles are ranked higher (lower) than SnK v4 over the next few days, we can say that most likely they will sell more (less) than the usual wk2 sales of SnK.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Xinception said:
Dang, I expected SnK Vol 4 sales to drop when Monogatari 2nd Season vol 1 came out, but god damned. Shingeki shouldn't have run out of steam on its second week, it sold less copies than Kimi No Iru Machi. I understand it selling less than blockbuster titles like Railgun but KnIM? That's surprising. Any chance that SnK is just having a shortage of copies for today?


You repeating same mistake again and again. You can't simply interpret chart from positions. First two day numbers are extremely front-loaded as include preorder sales and rush sales in stores.
Just for curiosity here is chart run for previous volumes week 2 and it's sales:
DVD:
**8 *** *25 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3 | 2,262 | #36 on overall chart
**3 *** *18 *22 *21 *** *** | -- | Shingeki 2 | 2,488 | #16 on overall chart
**4 *** *20 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 1 | 2,398 | #32 on overall chart
BD:
**1 *** *14 *** *** *18 *17 | -- | Shingeki 3 | 3,622 | #27 on overall chart
**1 *** *** *** *19 *17 *12 | -- | Shingeki 2 | 3,474 | #16 on overall chart
**2 *** *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 1 | 3,149 | #25 on overall chart

So v4 is not doing any worse than previous volumes.
 
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Thanks for all of the feedback, I should learn much from this I suppose.
 
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Oh wow, Nagi no Asukara made a big jump from 1,851 to 91 in Stalker.
Was there a bonus announced or something?
The consensus in 2ch is that it was order trolling. And of course Crime Edge sudden got mentioned a lot.

Perhaps the very weak position of Nagi in ranking attracted the attention of those trolls, just like Crime Edge. Really regrettable incident I must say. Its position is now #284 and it would take a long while for it to settle down to a level that reflects its true ranking. At the same time the estimate now shoots above 1k - before this boost it was around 8xx Hmm...
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Non Non Biyori is doing ok in the rankings as well as Kyokai no Kanata which is #55 on stalker. Noucome isn't doing so hot nor is Yusibu.


 
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Kyokai no Kanata I expect is another case of order trolling.

Yes, I know, the fourth episode aired so it could be that but volume 2+ haven't budged from their mediocre rankings.(Just like Nagi no Asukara) Not to mention, it has already started falling, from #55 to #65.

I would wait for another week or so and see if it stays in the top 100 before saying it had an episode jump. Because I will never forget what happened to Crime Edge.
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Kyokai no Kanata I expect is another case of order trolling.

Yes, I know, the fourth episode aired so it could be that but volume 2+ haven't budged from their mediocre rankings.(Just like Nagi no Asukara) Not to mention, it has already started falling, from #55 to #65.

I would wait for another week or so and see if it stays in the top 100 before saying it had an episode jump. Because I will never forget what happened to Crime Edge.


I remember when people thought this was the case with Free and look how that turned out. I figure the ever reliable and devoted Kyoani fanbase showed up like they always do, though for an episode as tepid and kind of transitional as that 4th one they must be really desperate to show their support.

The one thing that would kind of make me suspect a troll is that reviews seem mixed even in Japan, but then that Kyoani fanbase always defies all expectations so we'll see in due time I guess. Color me not the least bit shocked that the show somehow found it's way into the top 100 completely out of nowhere though.
 
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I remember when people thought this was the case with Free and look how that turned out. I figure the ever reliable and devoted Kyoani fanbase showed up like they always do, though for an episode as tepid and kind of transitional as that 4th one they must be really desperate to show their support.

The one thing that would kind of make me suspect a troll is that reviews seem mixed even in Japan, but then that Kyoani fanbase always defies all expectations so we'll see in due time I guess. Color me not the least bit shocked that the show somehow found it's way into the top 100 completely out of nowhere though.


I don't ever recall any of us thinking that Free! was ever a case of order trolling. Besides, with Free!, multiple volumes showed up in the top 100 not to mention it started ranking really well in HMV and Animate as well, while KnK is doing neither or those things, though, granted, KnK isn't exactly catering to female otaku so I guess HMV is the place which should be brought up.

And Kyokai has now dropped again. As I speak, it's already dropped to #72. From #55 to #72 in a matter of hours? It is increasingly looking like a sign of trolling.

I really think you should stop this 'KyoAni fans will buy anything' talk you know. I mean, look at Tamako Market and Nichijou and though it's a bit old, Munto.

Tamako Market was projected to sell 20k before it started airing because all the K-On! staff were reuniting on the project or something like that. And it's selling 4k or so.

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I remember when people thought this was the case with Free and look how that turned out. I figure the ever reliable and devoted Kyoani fanbase showed up like they always do, though for an episode as tepid and kind of transitional as that 4th one they must be really desperate to show their support.

The one thing that would kind of make me suspect a troll is that reviews seem mixed even in Japan, but then that Kyoani fanbase always defies all expectations so we'll see in due time I guess. Color me not the least bit shocked that the show somehow found it's way into the top 100 completely out of nowhere though.


I don't ever recall any of us thinking that Free! was ever a case of order trolling. Besides, with Free!, multiple volumes showed up in the top 100 not to mention it started ranking really well in HMV and Animate as well, while KnK is doing neither or those things, though, granted, KnK isn't exactly catering to female otaku so I guess HMV is the place which should be brought up.

And Kyokai has now dropped again. As I speak, it's already dropped to #72. From #55 to #72 in a matter of hours? It is increasingly looking like a sign of trolling.

I really think you should stop this 'KyoAni fans will buy anything' talk you know. I mean, look at Tamako Market and Nichijou and though it's a bit old, Munto.

Tamako Market was projected to sell 20k before it started airing because all the K-On! staff were reuniting on the project or something like that. And it's selling 4k or so.



Yeah that is a good point, with all the other popular preorder shows this season like Little Busters and Infinite Stratos the volumes all showed up in the preorder list at the same time whereas this the volume 2 disc really doesn't seem to have moved. One would imagine the current episode would be on the 2nd or 3rd disc so it would track that you'd think they would enjoy the boost too if it were because of the episode that aired. Also the stiff drop over the last few hours I'm seeing while a lot of other shows this season have been holding fairly steady in their relative positions by all accounts seems suspect.

Yet somehow I'm kind of skeptical it's not an organized order/cancel thing even still. If it does turn out to be I wonder why this show though?
 
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Yet somehow I'm kind of skeptical it's not an organized order/cancel thing even still. If it does turn out to be I wonder why this show though?


We could ask the same question for Nagi no Asukara and Meganebu!. All I can think of is both these titles were ranking poorly so someone decided to have some fun by trying to fool people that they are actually doing well, even if it's just for a day. Lame October Fool joke.

KnK wasn't ranking as badly as Nagi though.

And now it's fallen to #74. EDIT: It's now gone down to #96.

I have a feeling, if this person continues trolling, Samurai Flamenco or Copellion might be next.
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DVD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **2 **3 *** *** *** *** | -- | Gintama Movie (2013)
*** **6 **4 *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **8 **6 *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *12 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *11 *13 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *14 *14 *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
**4 *24 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *20 *17 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *13 *25 *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *** *26 *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *27 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Milky Holmes no Tokubetsu Jugyou
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

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*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **1 **1 *** *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** **6 **2 *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** **4 **4 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** **3 **5 *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** **5 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
**2 *20 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *18 *10 *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *12 *11 *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *12 *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *10 *13 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *16 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *11 *16 *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *17 *18 *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
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*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** **6 **2 *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5

Clearly UtaPri is strong in storefront as expected, and Shingeki roared back to life too:

**2 *20 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Position wise SnK v4 is doing much better than v3, although competition this week is weaker than v3 had (JoJo last volume, Love Live last volume, Code Geass BD Box, Seed Destiny BD Box and GirlPan Fandisc in addition to usual strong sellers like UtaPri, OreImo etc.). So i don't expect bigger sales for v4, probably about usual 5,5-6K DVD+BD.
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We could ask the same question for Nagi no Asukara and Meganebu!. All I can think of is both these titles were ranking poorly so someone decided to have some fun by trying to fool people that they are actually doing well, even if it's just for a day. Lame October Fool joke.


ah i was already wondering why meganebu! suddenly jumped up and then dropped again. ugh some people must be really bored...

and next week will be monogatari on top definitely. who's going to be 2nd though? i'll place my bet on utapri...
 
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Nice, 13k for symphogear. And KinMosa is still selling.
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not bad SnK vol.4.. not bad.
i got my copy and it include OST2 but i thought it would hit 30k, but it didn't..
 
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^ Nice pic of SnK BD contents there !!

With this full week's list, it is now official that SnK v1 sold >80k (80,430). Also the "air anime" (which few people talked about) Milky Holmes still sold more than C3-bu...

Updated vol.1 BD+DVD sales for 2013 summer cour:

2013 Summer Preliminary First Volume Sales
Key: Total - # Weeks Charted - Title - Format ranked - Release Date
32,337 *7 Free! [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/11
13,057 *3 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/02
12,384 *3 Brothers Conflict [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/21
------ 10,000 Line ------
*9,676 *2 Highschool DxD New [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/25
*7,575 *4 Kiniro Mosaic [BD]: 2013/09/25
*6,898 *2 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya [BD]: 2013/09/27
*6,650 *3 Dangan Ronpa the Animation [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/28
*5,473 *2 Kimi no Iru Machi [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/25
*5,375 *3 Servant x Service [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/21
*5,001 *3 Love Lab [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/20
*4,596 *3 Choujigen Game Neptune the Animation [BD]: 2013/09/25
*3,682 *2 Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS [BD]: 2013/09/25
---- Manabi Line (2899) ----
*2,601 *1 Gin no Saji: Silver Spoon [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/18
*2,399 *2 Uchouten Kazoku [BD]: 2013/09/25
*2,370 *1 Makai Ouji Devils and Realist [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/18
*2,072 *2 Rozen Maiden (2013) [BD]: 2013/08/30
*1,205 *1 Watashi ga Motenai nowa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui! [BD]: 2013/10/02
**,932 *1 Genei wo Kakeru Taiyou [BD]: 2013/09/25
**,908 *1 Fantatista Doll [BD]: 2013/09/20
**,809 *1 Genshiken Nidaime [BD]: 2013/09/04
**,656 *1 Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi [BD]: 2013/09/25
**,558 *1 Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku [BD]: 2013/09/18
**,455 *1 Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou [BD]: 2013/09/20
**,441 *1 Futari wa Milky Holmes [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/16
**,267 *1 Stella Jogakuin Koutou-ka C³-bu [BD]: 2013/09/18
**,*** ** Blood Lad [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/27
**,*** ** Recorder to Landsel Mi☆ [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/02

(not yet on sale or sales data not yet available)
Monogatari Second Season [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/23
Senyuu2 [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/25
Teekyuu2 [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/25
Gifuu Doudou!!: Kanetsugu to Keiji [DVD]: 2013/10/25
Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai: Megami-hen [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/30
Tamayura: More Aggressive [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/30
Gatchaman Crowds [BD+DVD]: 2014/01/22
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Thank goodness for 7.5K for Kinmoza and I'm glad Ro-Kyu-Bu SS is now above the Manabi line.

>Milky Holmes selling more than C3-bu

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Very glad to see Symphogear G cracking 13K.

How is SnK OST2 anyway? I only remembered a few songs that were not on the separately sold OST disc which I bought (I got the OP and ED CDs as well but no BDs for that series).
 
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Free! volume 1 adds another 184 copies in it's sixth week! Thank you fujoshi for buying Free!
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I thought SnK vol 4 would have done a bit better considering ost 2 was included if I'm not mistaken...
OST2 was only included as a first press bonus in limited quantities, if you weren't lucky you didn't get it

First press limited edition doesn't actually mean limited. The OST will be there for everyone who buys the BD, and it'll be there months from now too.

Limited (almost) never means limited. It's just a marketing gimmick. Think of it more as "special edition" than "limited edition", special in that is contains some stuff the "regular edition" (which virtually nobody buys, and which sometimes doesn't even exist) does not....
For BDs this seems to be true, even with CDJapan(Neowing) listing things like the clear case and digipak incorrectly as first press bonuses for Rozen Maiden, you don't need to worry about just getting a disc in a paper sleeve after the first press runs out.

With CDs, however, there really do seem to be first press bonuses for things like Schwartz cards, signed pictures and so on in some Limited Editions. I wish I'd ordered some of my Symphogear G character song CDs earlier as I missed some of the first press card bonuses and the same goes for the Mimori Suzuko LE singles which contained numbered signed photographs as early first press bonuses. They're just cards and pictures so they don't really matter I guess but... I like them!
 
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With CDs, however, there really do seem to be first press bonuses for things like Schwartz cards, signed pictures and so on in some Limited Editions.
Those first press bonuses... usually they are so limited in number that they go out very fast, particularly things like numbered signed whatever that does not cost more.. Some people even go to brick-and-mortar shops to buy those in the belief that with turnover so much bigger in internet retailer, those first press bonuses run out much faster. Not sure how true that is though.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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I'm not fan of the show, but seeing C3-bu sold like dirt leaves me wondering what is GAINAX seriously doing right now. It seems to me their shows just keep flopping one after another (though i'll be glad to be proven wrong). Is their only hope is by relying on residuals of their past success? At this rate, they'll just end up being a dump studio much like GONZO and DEEN
 
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At this rate, they'll just end up being a dump studio much like GONZO and DEEN
Actually I would say it has already happened. In Japan the reputation of Gainax is easily lower than Gonzo and Deen.

Gonzo is similar to Gainax in that it is still recovering from bad fortune though in Gonzo's case it was something catastrophic involving restructuring on its parent's level. So it has been doing mostly subcontractor's works after its renewal in 2009. Overseas fans often still think the current Gonzo in terms of the old Gonzo and comment on it as if it was still the old Gonzo whether in a good or bad sense, which could not be more wrong and ridiculous. On the other hand, Gainax declined by haemorrhaging talents and poorly managing its intrinsic strength. While Gonzo can be viewed as slowly but gradually finding its feet (its recent primary studio work Kimi no Iru Machi is doing not bad) it is much harder to say the same for Gainax.

Deen is even further from a dump studio than Gainax or Gonzo. It clearly has taken on a reputation to do mostly mediocre works, but still they are doing lots of work year in year out. And even if the sales were not impressive, it seems that their work were often judged sufficient success for sequel to be made e.g. Kore wa Zombie desuka, Nurarihyon no Mago, Sekai Ichi no Hatsukoi, Hiiro no Kakera, and Hakuouki series can even be called a success. A lot of what they do now are skewed towards the female audience, which could be even harder for us to judge how successful they are. By contrast, Gainax has done a lot less work than Deen, does not even have any work that can claim to be a success after 2008, and have got a reputation among fans of doing what please themselves instead of finding out what would entertain the fans, and basically a wacko studio. At least nobody would think Deen is such a "dump studio".
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Amiluhur said:
At this rate, they'll just end up being a dump studio much like GONZO and DEEN
Actually I would say it has already happened. In Japan the reputation of Gainax is easily lower than Gonzo and Deen.

Gonzo is similar to Gainax in that it is still recovering from bad fortune though in Gonzo's case it was something catastrophic involving restructuring on its parent's level. So it has been doing mostly subcontractor's works after its renewal. Overseas fans often still think the current Gonzo as old Gonzo and comment on it as if it was still the old Gonzo whether it is good or bad history, which could not be more wrong and ridiculous. On the other hand, Gainax declined by haemorrhaging talents and poorly managing its intrinsic strength. While Gonzo can be viewed as slowly but gradually finding its feet (its recent primary studio work Kimi no Iru Machi is doing not bad) it is much harder to say for Gainax.

Deen is even further from a dump studio than Gainax or Gonzo. It clearly has taken on a reputation to do mostly mediocre works, but still they are doing lots of work year in year out. And even if the sales were not impressive, it seems that their work were often judged sufficient success for sequel to be made e.g. Kore wa Zombie desuka, Nurarihyon no Mago, Sekai Ichi no Hatsukoi, Hiiro no Kakera, and Hakuouki series could even be called a success. A lot of what they do now are skewed towards the female audience, which could be even harder for us to judge how successful they are. By contrast, Gainax has done a lot less work than Deen, cannot have even any work that can claim to be a success after 2008, and have got a reputation among fans of doing what please themselves instead of finding out what would entertain the fans, and basically a wacko studio. At least nobody would think Deen is such a "dump studio".


That is fascinating information, especially the part about Gainax.

How do fans in Japan perceive Silver Link? Historically it seems that haven't been that successful, especially in regards to sales.

However, recently Prisma got a second season and it seems like they have been doing a lot more shows, sometimes multiple shows in one season. They have directed some shows with amazing art, including C3, Baka Test, Tayutama and OniAi. I don't know if I should give credit to them, the source material, the art director, or a combination of all three factors though.
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How do fans in Japan perceive Silver Link? Historically it seems that haven't been that successful, especially in regards to sales.
One thing to note is that compared to Gainax, Gonzo and Deen, Silver Link has a much shorter history: Established only in 2008 but at first only did subcontractor works. They did not start working as a primary studio until later in 2009 and only worked on one (then two) anime per year until last year.

I would say fans still reserve judgement for this studio and do not hold a firm opinion or reputation expectation for it, which could be a good thing because very few people would say "oh it is Silver Link so WataMote/Strike the Blood/Illya/Non Non Biyori would be like this!". They would focus more on the key staff, which anyway is usually the more appropriate way to set your expectation about a series - just ask yourself, if an adaptation is butchered or poorly adapted, would you say it is the responsibility of the director and the screenplay, or the studio?

And I think this has helped Silver Link to slowly but surely build up its reputation. WataMote generated good comments about its directing, art and sound choice. Illya clearly sold well. Strike the Blood significantly boosts the sales of LN. Non Non Biyori is a series I have seen the most "better than expected" comments in forums like 2ch among anime this cour (though Walkure Romanze comes close). They are all done in the same year (this year) and they all look a bit different from each other. And this compares well with last year when they did 3 full-length anime (OniAi, Dusk maiden of Amnesia, Kokoro Connect) and 1 short anime (Chitose getchu!), not to say 2011 (BakaTest2 and C-cube).
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Isn't Silver Link the primary studio for Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu? That was in 2010.
Its second season was in 2011.
 
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Isn't Silver Link the primary studio for Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu? That was in 2010.
Its second season was in 2011.
You are right. I forgot BakaTest, and it was also the primary studio for Tayutama in 2009. And back then it only did one anime as primary studio every year: 2009, 2010, and then two in 2011 (C-cube and BakaTest2). So Silver Link started its journey of primary studio pretty well as BakaTest is a high profile project and the sales of the series was quite good.

Other than that, my analysis is the same. It does not have a good or bad reputation and it is still evolving. Fans mostly reserve judgement for the studio.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Dump studio? I am not sure if Gainax will still exist after the extent that C3-bu has flopped......... weren't they aren't begging money for that tea ceremony club anime?
 
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*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** *** *** **3 *** *** *** | -- | Yamato 2199 7
*** **6 **4 **7 *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *** *** *10 *** *** *** | -- | Karneval 6
*** *** *** *11 *** *** *** | -- | Hakkenden 8
*** **8 **6 *18 *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *12 **7 *21 *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *** *** *22 *** *** *** | -- | Date A Live 5
*** *** *** *23 *** *** *** | -- | Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W 6
*** *** *** *24 *** *** *** | -- | Senyuu. Season 3
*** *11 *13 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *14 *14 *** *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
**4 *24 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *20 *17 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *13 *25 *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *** *26 *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *27 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
*** *21 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *22 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
*** *28 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2

BD
*21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26 *27  週
*** *** *** **1 *** *** *** | -- | Yamato 2199 7
*** *** *** **2 *** *** *** | -- | Gargantia BOX 3
*** **1 **1 **3 *** *** *** | -- | Nekomonogatari Shiro 1
*** *** *** **4 *** *** *** | -- | Fate/Kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 2
*** *** *** **5 *** *** *** | -- | Date A Live 5
*** *** *** **6 *** *** *** | -- | Majestic Prince 5
*** *** *** **7 *** *** *** | -- | Full Metal Panic! BOX All Stories
*** *** *** **8 *** *** *** | -- | Teekyuu Season 2
*** *** *** **9 *** *** *** | -- | Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W 6
*** **6 **2 *10 *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 5
*** *** *** *12 *** *** *** | -- | Yamato yo Towa ni
*** **3 **5 *13 *** *** *** | -- | RailgunS 4
*** *** *** *14 *** *** *** | -- | Uchouten Kazoku 2
*** *** *** *16 *** *** *** | -- | Karneval 6
*** *** *** *17 *** *** *** | -- | Love Lab 2
*** **4 **4 *18 *** *** *** | -- | OreImo. 5
*** *** *** *19 *** *** *** | -- | Photokano 5
*** **5 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | OreGairu. 5
**2 *20 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 4
*** *18 *10 *** *** *** *** | -- | BROTHERS CONFLICT 3
*** *12 *11 *** *** *** *** | -- | Valvrave 5
*** *15 *12 *** *** *** *** | -- | Dangan Ronpa the ANIMATION 3
*** *10 *13 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saint☆Onii-san
*** *16 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Servant x Service 3
*** *11 *16 *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuyushiki 6
*** *17 *18 *** *** *** *** | -- | Kimi no Iru Machi 2
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Gin no Saji 2
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hanasaku Iroha Movie Limited Edition
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live!7
**9 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!4
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!2
*15 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3
Modified by Ejc, Oct 26, 2013 10:16 PM
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Oct 25, 2013 3:52 AM

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^ A lot of strong titles on pre-sale day :D
 
Oct 25, 2013 3:55 AM

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Teekyuu 2 higher than Nyarko-san 6 on pre-release sale day? Interesting! I bought Teekyuu but not Nyarko-san so one of those pre-orders is mine but interesting indeed! Will probably flip flop on sale release day but nice to see anyhow, hope it does well in seasons 2 and 3 and we get season 4!
 
Oct 25, 2013 4:01 AM

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hpulley said:
Teekyuu 2 higher than Nyarko-san 6 on pre-release sale day?
Looking at the Amazon ranking, even Teekyuu3 is doing quite fine....

Anyway, again the jacket of Kitakubu (this time vol.2) looks great!

http://blog-imgs-59.fc2.com/p/o/l/polyphonicar2014/kitaku2-2.jpg
http://blog-imgs-59.fc2.com/p/o/l/polyphonicar2014/kitaku2-3.jpg
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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