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Oct 19, 2013 9:14 PM

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Kurugaya's route will never make sense to me >.>

Also, quick question (spoiler for end of game)
 
Oct 19, 2013 9:44 PM
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It's like I want to find LB good as a big fan of the past Key Adaptations... but none of the routes so far have been particularly... good, I like the characters and the overall feel... Hell Its not different from any of his previous works but its always so anticlimactic every route just comes and goes...

After hearing for years and years how LB was such a masterpiece I can honestly only believe that this is just a really mediocre adaptation.
 
Oct 19, 2013 10:12 PM

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HOLY SHIT JC STAFF FINALLY MADE ME CRY (probably bcos I'm a VN reader though), hope the anime viewers will understand it once Refrain arc finishes airing rather than dropping it -.-"
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Kurugaya literally absorbed all the Little Busters budget into her breasts.
 
Oct 19, 2013 10:20 PM

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No way. Please tell me she comes back. I like Rin but Kurugaya is best girl :'[
 
Oct 19, 2013 10:33 PM

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And now it begins. From this episode onwards is all Jun Maeda material.
 
Oct 19, 2013 10:37 PM

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It's like I want to find LB good as a big fan of the past Key Adaptations... but none of the routes so far have been particularly... good, I like the characters and the overall feel... Hell Its not different from any of his previous works but its always so anticlimactic every route just comes and goes...


Yeah, the fact that there are a bunch of routes that are multiple episodes and in the anime might make it feel fragmented. Anyway, the rest of the story is mostly continuous and shouldn't have that kind of issue.
There are people who didn't like the heroine routes in the VN either and just liked Refrain, but it's a mixed bag. There were some things the anime did that seem like blatantly wrong/dumb decisions.

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Kurugaya's route will never make sense to me >.>

Also, quick question (spoiler for end of game)


I'll explain it in a nutshell.
 
Oct 19, 2013 11:30 PM

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This episode so damn perfect, i bet kurugaya fans very pleasure with this episode.
( i still wondering why JC staff cant pull season 1 to be as good as 3 episodes of lb refrain ToT )

and that "song for friend" for you, very well executed with kurugaya last scene.

JC Staff please confirm refrain get 20 episodes and i can die happily.
 
Oct 19, 2013 11:31 PM

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Ragna92 said:
And now it begins. From this episode onwards is all Jun Maeda material.

Yep, let the tears begin.
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Oct 19, 2013 11:33 PM

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This episode so damn perfect, i bet kurugaya fans very pleasure with this episode.
( i still wondering why JC staff cant pull season 1 to be as good as 3 episodes of lb refrain ToT )

and that "song for friend" for you, very well executed with kurugaya last scene.

JC Staff please confirm refrain get 20 episodes and i can die happily.

Refrain has been confirmed for 13 episodes.
 
Oct 19, 2013 11:48 PM

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That felt like five minutes. Praise Kurugaya. Such a tragic heroine. The route was changed a ton from the VN, but the changes made a lot of sense on the whole. I'm expecting further changes for the rest of the story and can't wait.

 
Oct 20, 2013 1:00 AM

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just perfect... so much emotion... and finally (21). final chapter will come soon. cannot wait.



 
Oct 20, 2013 1:19 AM

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Refrain has been confirmed for 13 episodes.


Oh thank you. so it's confirmed already, look like i miss many news because midterm test.

that's why i feel refrain pacing a bit rushed.even though i think its not problem to make refrain for 1 cour.

 
Oct 20, 2013 1:23 AM

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Not a single chance anymore.


 
Oct 20, 2013 1:38 AM
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Oh wow! This episode alone was better than all the best moments from season one combined. Beautiful.

 
Oct 20, 2013 1:45 AM

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Well. This episode really upped my standards. This was fantastically executed and I feel gave a much better explanation to everything that Kurugaya's route in the VN. That left a bit TOO many questions. They ADAPTED (To those complaining that this was too different to the VN route) the reasoning behind all of it to fit the anime variation and man does it make a good effect.

'You must protect Rin-kun...'

That line was great. Kurugaya knows her shit. Once June 20th end, shit's going down. Not just because he forgets Kurugaya, but it's the beginning of everything.

On the note of Refrain being 13 episodes... Phew. It may be short, but damn is it not long. I don't want to see Refrain stretched, drawn-out and butchered to the extent it would've if it had been 26 episodes like so many people had asked. I mean really, people who are complaining, did you really expect to get such a strange number like 17 or 18? I don't think I've seen a single anime like that. Ever. In J.C. Staff's eyes it was either 13 episodes or 26 episodes. I think the more logical choice of those two would have to be 13. Just as you can butcher with things being too short, you can butcher with things being too long. Refrain's pacing was very different to After-Story's so don't compare those two. The only reason Refrain was longer in text was due to the character episodes, which had a lot of repeating of previous events in them. If they did that in the anime, I think it'd get a little annoying. In the VN it worked because they have description of everything and each character has a unique voice. But it's not as prevalent in anime and I don't want each character constantly narrating everything. They will most likely do some ADAPTING (Like they're being paid to do) to make the episodes work and not be as repetitive as they'd be if they did it 1:1.

But yeah, semi-rant over. Overall, fantastic episode and I'm excited to see what J.C. does with it. Fingers crossed that they know what they're doing!
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:10 AM

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That animation still amazes me, it's so fluid and beautiful. So Kurugaya also has some idea about the time loop. Snowing in june and they don't care at all. So it was Kurugaya's dream! Kurugaya has the best route for sure, expectations can do you that; I know.. So sad and when she cried, my heart was so moved... Is she not gonna appear anymore? I don't want that.....

And this is the first anime to get a perfect 10 from me this season, Nagi no Asakura was supposed to be my most fav. but this episode was too much for me, not to give it a perfect score.
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:28 AM

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I let out one tear... A good episode.



 
Oct 20, 2013 3:30 AM

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OK episode, though I'm sure there are things I didn't get. I understand why they put Kurugaya's route in the second season, cause it's definitely the most confusing one for the moment, the others didn't raise as many questions as this one. So next time is Rin's route, right? I guess that's when the real romance will occur.
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:44 AM
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So what's happening to Kurugaya? Will she disappear or will Riki just forget her or just June 20th with her?
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:46 AM

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So what's happening to Kurugaya? Will she disappear or will Riki just forget her or just June 20th with her?


Riki will forget everything that happened on every June 20.


 
Oct 20, 2013 5:34 AM

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SPEECHLESS!!! :'(
I really wonder what happen with kurugaya! God.. I wish riki doesn't forget about her.. ah.. please God.. it is still beginning dont give me a sad episode :'o

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http://i.imgur.com/Yvr7yvG.gif

I'm dying for this!
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:38 AM
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An amazing episode. I love the way they managed to end the route, but I´m a bit disappointed about refrain being 13 chapters only. I think they'll rush it like there's no tomorrow but... Let's see.
 
Oct 20, 2013 7:27 AM

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Really great episode! The last moment of this episode.... Thanks, J.C. Staff, good joob
it was so touching.

The rest of the episodes, will be Rin2 and Refrain Arc, it will be more interesting. After All, Refrain and Rin's Arc is Jun Maeda's.
 
Oct 20, 2013 7:28 AM

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Great episode. Sadly it'll end 10 episodes later :/
「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」
 
Oct 20, 2013 7:37 AM

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My God spectacular episode!

Little Busters! deserved a higher score well here, despite being fifth in the monthly ranking, this Refrain will be to break the hearts of all.

Great episode, full of visual games, very white, but remember that the game also had this footprint snow and the 'dream world'. Only missed a few characters in the episode, other than that, closing with Song for Friends to stop anyone <3
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Oct 20, 2013 7:41 AM
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Oct 20, 2013 8:27 AM

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T__________T Emotional but fantastic!!!
 
Oct 20, 2013 9:31 AM

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I don't know why so many of you guys are complaining. This was such a great episode! Certainly different from the VN, but still very well done. I even got a bit teary eyed at the dialogue at the end :P

Now finally into Rin2!
 
Oct 20, 2013 11:59 AM

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Beautiful episode, loved it.
The title of the next chapter left me impressed. ._.

 
Oct 20, 2013 3:16 PM

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Amazing episode!!
Best girl just left....I was seriously almost about to drop this, but I already know that Riki and Rin were meant to be together....
I'm unbelievably interested in this "world" they're in and the secrets that are yet to be revealed....
I have a feeling that Kyousuke knows a lot more what's going on than Riki does....and he just doesn't want to tell him for some reason...
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:28 PM

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Great ending to Kurogaya's route, what happened to JC Staff? They are doing a great second season so far! I hope it continues that way.
Now we have to wait for next week's episode. The preview is short but really hypes me.

Kurogaya 10/10.
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:32 PM

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I loved this episode. When song for friends started to play I knew that a heavy rain of tears were going to fall and they did. I want to know what exactly was Kurugaya because that farewell was too beautiful. Also I did not expected at the third episode. Another scene to be forever in my memory.
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:45 PM

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It was nice to watch (Kyousuke in the rain T^T Don't look so sad, you are breaking my heart~), I don't remember much from her route in the game, so if something was changed, it didn't have big impact on me. Honestly, I don't get this arc even knowing Refrain and the secret of the world. Time to re-read visual novel, probably. They cut off REALLY a lot though, and she was my second favourite character...
No time to regret I guess, since now comes the REAL deal, Rin-chan's arc <3 Finally, best girl will have some time to shine. Is it just me, or she sounded kinda different this episode.

I'm thinking about "Song For Friends" now, too. Is it sung from Yuiko's perspective? I used to think that it's from Kyousuke's, but now I think "Haruka Kanata" suits him more.
 
Oct 20, 2013 3:47 PM
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It was nice to watch (Kyousuke in the rain T^T Don't look so sad, you are breaking my heart~), I don't remember much from her route in the game, so if something was changed, it didn't have big impact on me. Honestly, I don't get this arc even knowing Refrain and the secret of the world. Time to re-read visual novel, probably. They cut off REALLY a lot though, and she was my second favourite character...
No time to regret I guess, since now comes the REAL deal, Rin-chan's arc <3 Finally, best girl will have some time to shine. Is it just me, or she sounded kinda different this episode.

I'm thinking about "Song For Friends" now, too. Is it sung from Yuiko's perspective? I used to think that it's from Kyousuke's, but now I think "Haruka Kanata" suits him more.

I believe that Boys Don't Cry/Boys Be Smile is Kyousuke's theme song.
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:07 PM

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I believe that Boys Don't Cry/Boys Be Smile is Kyousuke's theme song.

Well, that's for sure, but it's anime only. I think one of these mentioned by me were made for him in the visual novel, especially when you read into the lyrics.
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:11 PM

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I always thought song for friends is sung from everyones perspective. Btw the lyrics for every LB song are spoilers lol but its not that major. Thats what I like about it.
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:14 PM

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I'm kinda sad nothing happened between Kurugaya and Riki,but still awesome episode.

DEM FEELS ;_;
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:17 PM

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That was pretty impressive
I always love Key's music
The real deal start next episode
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:18 PM

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Kitsu-nee said:
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I believe that Boys Don't Cry/Boys Be Smile is Kyousuke's theme song.

Well, that's for sure, but it's anime only. I think one of these mentioned by me were made for him in the visual novel, especially when you read into the lyrics.


Looking at the lyrics on animelyrics:
http://www.animelyrics.com/game/ritobasu/lbsff.htm

It kinda seems like the first section is Riki, the 3rd is Kurugaya's, the 5th could be Kyousuke's.
I feel it could apply to Kyousuke or Kurugaya, depending on whether you take some parts literally or not. It fits between mostly Kurugaya and Riki, but it could be Kyousuke due to similar lyrics to "Little Busters!" with Kyousuke/Riki joining hands and reaching for the sky.
I think some of the songs can apply to multiple parts of the story, and they may not have been composed with the story 100% literally in mind.
 
Oct 20, 2013 4:37 PM

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Looking at the lyrics on animelyrics:
http://www.animelyrics.com/game/ritobasu/lbsff.htm

It kinda seems like the first section is Riki, the 3rd is Kurugaya's, the 5th could be Kyousuke's.
I feel it could apply to Kyousuke or Kurugaya, depending on whether you take some parts literally or not. It fits between mostly Kurugaya and Riki, but it could be Kyousuke due to similar lyrics to "Little Busters!" with Kyousuke/Riki joining hands and reaching for the sky.
I think some of the songs can apply to multiple parts of the story, and they may not have been composed with the story 100% literally in mind.

Oh, interesting thought, didn't think about it that way. I guess they are made so everyone could see their favourite characters' emotion in it (and that's why I see Kyousuke everywhere, lol). That's why I love Key's songs so much, not only they sound awesome, but also connects with characters so you remember them even after a while.
 
Oct 20, 2013 5:21 PM

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I'm kinda sad nothing happened between Kurugaya and Riki,but still awesome episode.

DEM FEELS ;_;


well nothing happen is not really the case, they didnt kiss but actually both fallen in love for each other, pretty evident
 
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Oct 20, 2013 5:36 PM

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good episode
i cried a bit because of that "goodbye"
really curious about next episode XD
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:39 PM

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I order to protect my sanity, I shall refrain from watching this show. Because NOPE!
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:42 PM
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They Got Rid Of Her...... T_T

Well At least The Story Here Is Going Well And Better Than Season 1
I've Seen Alot Of People Here Asking About Rin & Riki
It's Best Not To Spoil The Show For Anyone So I'd Suggest You Check The Visual Novel Since Things Are Begging To Go Its Way!
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:43 PM

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I order to protect my sanity, I shall refrain from watching this show. Because NOPE!


Thanks. You've already overstayed your welcome ;)

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They Got Rid Of Her...... T_T

Well At least The Story Here Is Going Well And Better Than Season 1
I've Seen Alot Of People Here Asking About Rin & Riki
It's Best Not To Spoil The Show For Anyone So I'd Suggest You Check The Visual Novel Since Things Are Begging To Go Its Way!


Is there a program I could download in order to type that way, or do you really just intentionally capitalize the beginning of each word?
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:45 PM

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I have no idea what happened here, but I sincerely hope Kurugaya's not gone for good.
 
Oct 20, 2013 6:49 PM
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Dem feels ;.;

Nearly cried during that "goodbye",and when Kurugaya was crying,so I was really surprised I didn't.Also dat Kurugaya smile<3,I miss her already ;.;.

Riki's smile afterwards when he forgot about Kurugaya overkill on feels.

"Protect Rin"?

Beautiful OST btw.

Only complain/bad part I would have to mention would the bad quality animation at certain parts.

So Rin 2 next?

Also Kyousuke in the rain.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f8c08cd73bf73e31af9de710e6492fdb/tumblr_muydnhmetC1qa94xto1_500.jpg
Wonder where he's at?
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Oct 20, 2013 6:55 PM

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Dem feels ;.;

Nearly cried during that "goodbye",really surprised I didn't though.Also dat Kurugaya smile<3,I miss her already ;.;.

"Protect Rin"?

Beautiful OST btw.

Only complain/bad part I would have to mention would the bad quality animation at certain parts.

So Rin 2 next?


Yeah, it seems like they saved budget for the important parts.
Well, I'll say that in the grand scheme of Little Busters, Kurugaya wasn't a huge priority in the VN, or in the anime, so the budget was kind of inconsistent. Her backstory segment barely had any animation, and the flashbacks from season 1 were partially copied from season 1, with a few scenes being redrawn.
I think the good parts well animated so to get the Japanese audiences hyped for the upcoming arcs. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a sudden overall quality increase for the main story. I thought the ending was beautiful, even if Kurugaya wasn't developed as well as in the VN. The ending was more emotional than in the VN for me. Most VN readers didn't really get much impact from her route, and while I would've liked the proper development to be there, I'll settle for the comedy and nice animations.

>"Protect Rin"?
Anime-original ;)

and the OST is pretty nice, and they're saving some even better ones for later.
 
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I have no idea what happened here, but I sincerely hope Kurugaya's not gone for good.

Exactly how I feel.
 
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