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May 24, 2014 8:04 AM

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First movie I've seen from Yasuhiro Yoshiura; another name to add to the list of great movie makers from Japan.

Really nice plot twist at the end; seems the people from the 'outside' world where the inversed people after all; and loved how the bad guy met his end. 8.5/10
May 24, 2014 1:37 PM

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Are it really that necessary to see the prologue before watching the movie it self?
May 24, 2014 7:17 PM

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Do you mean The Beginning of the Day? If you are, then it's not because they are just the same as the first 25 min of the movie.
Keep on moving forward
May 25, 2014 3:35 AM

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Having Eve as a witness to the skill of Yoshiyasu, I was expecting something original, with unexpected situations.
Well, I was not disappointed, the three major twists and a frame of respect!
Plot perhaps not developed in depth, but I recognize that it would take more time.
Character design is not attractive to others, but pleasant. Scenarios really beautiful, nice color design.
Characters not characterized in full, but let's go back to the earlier remarks.
Narration pleasant and very nice soundtrack.
For now, I've seen the film only once, to destroy it really well and with depth, to judge well; I have to see at least one more time.
The underlying message, however, is quite clear.
Final rating for now is 10/10!
May 26, 2014 3:39 AM

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4kicks said:
This movie sure had me confused for a bit. So, my understanding in the end (going downward):
-The ringed Moon (likely comprised of the debris/dead people from the "experiment" on Earth)
-the pedo geezer sucked into space...nonetheless, he's dead :)
-Real sky
-"Underground" (Patema's people) the actual normal people. Likely descendants of survivors who conducted the experiment/or weren't affected by it.
-"Above ground" (Eiji's disillusioned "Aiga" people) the actual upside-down people living in a dystopia.
-Artificial atmosphere
-Artificial "Starry sky" (Actually just the metal bottom base...likely explaining why it was uninhabited)

^ This post made sense of the ending for me. I understood the end twist meant that Age's people were inverted, rather than Patema's, but I couldn't make sense of the x2 sky aspect and what was with the metal structure the leads floated to. I get it now. Kinda. Cheerio! (Evangelion was confusing enough for me in terms of the geofront!)

Someone made a post asking what would happen if Age got Patema pregnant - whether the child would be inverted in the womb or not/ make her float / not come out - but I think imaging how they'd reproduce is even more amusing. Lots of hentai potential here when the 69 position is the most natural. Come on--I can't be the only one that thought it!

Will have to seriously re-watch it with the screen upside down at some point. I found the idea of reversed gravity as scary as Patema, but I LOVED how the leads had to hold each other in a weird handstand way or cuddle to move around safely. There should be a statue representing the fragility of love or something displaying that handstand holding that can be flipped.

Everything to do with reversed gravity and romance (a little cliche) was near perfect. I especially loved the early scene where Age put her in that little building and she became like a pet. The music cutting out as Patema acted like a "princess" during a lovey scene made me chuckle. BUT, the film was too short and didn't explain its setting or story very well. It ended without any WOWWOW resolution. And that 1D evil guy was.... 1D evil. ANDAND, like a guy just before asked, where did that "bat" guy at the start come from and go to?
Modified by AironicallyHuman, May 26, 2014 3:57 AM
May 26, 2014 3:20 PM

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jfblade said:
Are it really that necessary to see the prologue before watching the movie it self?

No just watch the movie it includes the prologue you speak of.

Great movie.
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May 27, 2014 12:38 AM

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Thread Cleaned

Try to discuss the movie itself, rather than things like where to watch it...
May 27, 2014 10:54 AM

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Solid 9/10 for me.
May 28, 2014 5:27 PM

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I just finished watching it, and it was amazing!
Unique concept and the I loved the plot twists, especially the ending.
I must buy this on DVD.
May 28, 2014 7:34 PM

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Nice looks, even though the most beautifull once where only seen in a very few amount of time, and the animation was on an avarage anime still, which means pretty low

Kinda interesting premise. Well 2 world with different type of gravity, and 2 different world. Im sure there would be much more interesting premises out there, but im ok with it.

Flat and uninteresing characters

Boring, anime clichee like way of storytelling and nothing much happens

A nice twist at the end

May 30, 2014 8:31 AM

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Great movie, the visuals were top
The beginning it looked like the interior of Sidonia except the 3d though
It was a nice story about opposites and exploration with a little romance

I do wonder how Age and Patema go on from there on the real surface
May 30, 2014 1:03 PM

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a great anime with great story and amazing it
Jun 4, 2014 3:52 AM

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-1D villain
- slow pacing at the start
+Eyegasmic animations
+Unique concepts
+Epic twists
+Unique romance concept
+Unique concept plot


Bonus: That letter the old man reading at the end
"we are alive"
"...Into repair of gravity inversion"
"....This e-mail all over earth"

P.S. I'm grasping at straws here but maybe the debris around the moon means they accidentally strengthen the moon's gravitational pull on some objects, hence the disaster? Would be really helpful if someone can prove/disprove this theory.
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Jun 5, 2014 10:28 PM

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Lol the MAL rating...

That ending with the real world was excellent though, and I LOVE the idea of inverted city in the sky.

Beautiful setting/idea and animation, even if character were bland and plot terrible (seriously, so pointless). :D

And I'm surprised not one of them attempted any handstands.
Jun 6, 2014 4:59 PM

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I'm still confused about certain things...especially the ending..but still really good movie. I love the whole inverted gravity concpet, I've never seen something like that before.
Jun 11, 2014 12:32 AM

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There were a lot, and I mean a lot, of logical errors in the way gravity behaved, even assuming that the basic premise of the series was correct. And the big reveal at the end was one that I'd been expecting for a very long time. But I liked it anyway.

I wonder what will happen to the Aiga now? If they're told the truth and shown the hole, I think it'll probably lead to mass suicide, rebellion and religious genocide. After all, its pretty hard to go from being God's chosen to being the very sinners you've always hated and reviled. Though I am glad that that sob was forced to realize the truth before he died.

Really liked it when he was trying to go to school and the music kept cutting out whenever she called out to him ;)
Jun 15, 2014 8:10 PM

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I hope the Illustrators of this movie draw a full map of the Sakasama no Patema world so I can see how all this really looks like.
Jun 15, 2014 11:28 PM

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Oh the plotholes, what would we do without them?

A lot of unanswered questions (some were implied but it might be me looking too hard on it to justify a higher score). Still the movie was enjoyable, though it has a lot of wasted potential. Art is good though. 5-6/10
Jun 19, 2014 9:53 AM

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Amazing! Even if I still didn't understand everything I can properly say that Sakasama no Patema was a brilliant production.

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Jun 19, 2014 4:24 PM

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Nice fairytale and very thought-provoking movie, I liked it. The very idea of being inverted is very interesting and it shows our human existence in so different perspective.

I can only wonder what this movie could become if both main characters wasn't so shallow and if those themes were explored bit deeper - cause this would be such a masterpiece if only this movie was bit more serious..

Nontheless, it's solid 7/10 for me.
Jun 27, 2014 8:16 PM

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Woah, that was a great film. I started out ranting about how boring it was at the beginning only to find myself sitting throughout the whole movie with a huge grin.

Recommend me an anime
Jun 29, 2014 4:21 PM

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Omg, both visually and musically it was just BRILLIANT. I love the idea and setting as well. Story was kinda meh and undeveloped though. I didn't get the message...
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Jul 10, 2014 8:10 AM

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It was kinda nice but I didn't really like the main girl :s The ending was pretty interesting though...

It was better than Upside Down oO
Jul 11, 2014 6:32 PM

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Well that was pretty damn enjoyable.
Jul 12, 2014 1:14 AM
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Nice movie! Love the twist! xD

also dat kiss scene was so qt .. LOL
Jul 12, 2014 2:44 AM

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Dam this was a great movie really loved the story
art was great
9/10 for me
Jul 17, 2014 12:38 AM

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Wow man, just, wow. What an awesome movie! Some of the best 1,5 hours I spent in my life!

Though now I feel like I'm upside down. Is it just me? XD
Jul 22, 2014 9:06 AM

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More like fantasy rather than sci-fi
But it was good, I guess...
Aug 11, 2014 1:22 AM
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I didn't know what to expect coming into this.. and I'm still a bit split regarding some things coming out of it. But all that asides I absolutely loved it. Like the whole inversion aspect is such a simple thing and although its platforming mechanic has been used in video games before, I can't recall I've ever seen a movie about it, at least not that utlized it as its very core plot mechanic, and it just did it in such a beautiful way. I wouldn't say I found it touching per se (very few things do that to me) but it was just plain likable across the board, which is all I ever ask for in an anime. 10/10

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Aug 14, 2014 12:34 PM

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plot holes yes they exist
but one could only do so much within 1 hour and 30 minutes unless it was a series i personally think they did their best for an original (?)
confusing yes but at the same time intriguing as well as mind blowing for the concept and setting
various scenes really throws you off with both the art and counter intuitive plot
an overall 8/10
fill in those plot holes and polish it up then it would hav been a 10
but in a business point it would also mean spinoffs or sequels as well for filling those plot holes
Aug 16, 2014 4:04 AM

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Beautiful Movie 9/10
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Aug 16, 2014 10:33 AM

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neat movie was neat...

How does Aiga not fall down to the man-made industrial sky?

Why the hell did they go through all the trouble making all that shit, though I kind of understand them feeling guilty about inverted people not able to experience the real sky and whatnot.

So, it seems like they've been living underground for at least a century? Why the hell is no one living up top? It's just small part of the country that's affected right?

Also in b4 inverted hentai anime
Modified by flaxman85, Aug 16, 2014 10:49 AM
Sep 15, 2014 5:58 AM

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girlyman said:
lol episode 1. It's a movie.


good fil,m tho
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Sep 30, 2014 2:11 PM

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Simply love directing and idea/meaning. wow, phenomenal.
Oct 3, 2014 2:27 PM

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The idea is more interesting than the execution. The romance felt kind of forced. All in all still enjoyable. 7/10
Oct 5, 2014 9:41 PM

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Damn that movie was friggin amazing. My only complaint would be that they didnt show the kiss.
Nov 4, 2014 7:43 AM

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Cliched film with a cliched villain. Visually it was pretty impressive at times but that's pretty much the only real positive thing about it.
Nov 7, 2014 9:36 PM

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Theresonly1cryo said:
The concept behind the world of Patema is pretty interesting, but also confusing, I wonder why when Age and Patema

Nov 27, 2014 6:42 PM

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I thought that was a great movie, kinda trippy with the camera getting both of their perspectives. I was thinking it was going to be over when she leaped off that guy and grabbed onto the kid on top the tower and the shot into the "sky" I can think they can all live in peace now with that villain guy gone..
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Nov 28, 2014 2:07 AM

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So after reading a few posts, I realized there was a twist at the end and the "underground people" are actually the normal ones, but I would have preferred without it, it would have made more sense imo.
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Dec 4, 2014 1:34 AM

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Great movie. Stereotypical evil villain, but everything else was very good. I love how much sense it made with the weight to and from inverted worlds. Everything fit together so well. I enjoyed every minute of it. The world building in particular was my favorite thing.

And watching Age find the hot air balloon made me well up with tears. It wasn't fair.
Dec 16, 2014 8:17 AM
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This is the key thing to understand the end plot
Ppl who surived the fall ABANDON the surface (which is eiji's kind) and live underground. the scientist is guilty and live with them (patema's kind).
In the end, eiji and patema blasted the SEAL that keeping them really underground.
as conclusion, eiji is the victim and patema is the real non affected human race but Aiga doesnt want to accept reality and somehow twisted the fact that they are the victim. finally they found the real EARTH.
Dec 19, 2014 6:16 AM

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Impressive. I think it's the word to describe this movie. I have seen the 4 OVAs prologue before and I was looking for it. The animation and the story are perfect, everything is done to make dream the viewer.

I loved this movie, all is perfect. (except the vilain, who is a little cliched.)
10/10, this movie made me dream.
Dec 22, 2014 11:26 PM

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Oh my god. It look a minute, but i understand now! And HOLY SHIT THAT WAS GOOD.
I don't even know were to start! But i want more of this! I know i wont get it, cause the story was filled out fully, but a sequel would be AMAZING.
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Dec 23, 2014 6:11 PM

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Although it was rather simple and cliche, the directing, angles, musical choice, world building and visuals alone were enough to bring my final score to an 8/10.

I would have liked a bit more explanation with everything and all, and I felt like they could have done more instead of slow panning shots, like there's a scenes with just people staring at scenery. And also, it was a dystopian story near the beginning, I wish there would have been more done to that, rather than just a typical villain with typical bad guys.

Also, I felt like this would be even better as a one cour series, with more stuff included. It was like Suisei no Gargantia but with less flaws.


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Dec 23, 2014 8:04 PM
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Just found this by chance, omg this is so awesome.
Dec 27, 2014 4:47 PM

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Too much flip flop flipping and bad drama. 6/10.
Dec 29, 2014 10:41 AM

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That was one of the most beautiful movies i have ever seen!
Dec 30, 2014 1:19 PM

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Kuruwin said:
Cliched film with a cliched villain. Visually it was pretty impressive at times but that's pretty much the only real positive thing about it.

You can't see real beauty.

Beautiful movie. I didn't expect that it will be that good. One of the best ideas for movie which I've ever seen. And that ending song. True awesomeness.
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Man.. that was a complete mindfuck for me. I was thinking so hard about why there was an artificial sky. I don't know what some of you are talking about when there were plotholes/unanswered questions. All of my questions were answered and it was brilliant. 9/10 for me for a good twist I struggled to see :).
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