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Oct 14, 2013 11:03 AM
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What was wrong about the Crescent Moon Alliance going with a party of 6? Are they all not lvl 90?


They are not as pro as former members of the Debauchery Party.... Shiroe and co. are equivalent of the top Japanese players in that game.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
 
Oct 14, 2013 12:32 PM
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On the manga, it show us shiroe have another character
it is a summoner with level 90 too
 
Oct 14, 2013 1:56 PM
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well, I liked the anime so far, but i wonder where this is going... and I really hope the romance doesn´t get too much in the foreground but also that it doesn´t disappear, I just love Akatsuki way too much for that :P
 
Oct 14, 2013 2:03 PM

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I still don't really like Akatsuki's character though, too moe.

Yeah this. I feel like the main purpose of her existence in this show is to provide moe and cuteness to the audience. Kind of like Magi's Morgiana except Morg actually has a backstory and develops much more as a character.


There's 2 episodes. Stop complaining about lack of backstory just yet.

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On the manga, it show us shiroe have another character
it is a summoner with level 90 too


This ain't based on a manga.
 
Oct 14, 2013 2:09 PM

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yhunata said:
mayukachan said:
suphazza said:
I still don't really like Akatsuki's character though, too moe.

Yeah this. I feel like the main purpose of her existence in this show is to provide moe and cuteness to the audience. Kind of like Magi's Morgiana except Morg actually has a backstory and develops much more as a character.


There's 2 episodes. Stop complaining about lack of backstory just yet.

I know, I know - but all I've gotten out of her was her moe expressions. It seriously seems like that's the only reason she's here.

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Oct 14, 2013 3:56 PM

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1. The main characters acted like killing other players was extremely wrong, but they proceeded to kill other players just a few minutes later. I understand that they were acting in self defense, but I'm sure they could have avoided conflict if they had such a good scout. Huge double standard right there.

Yeah I also wondered about this. They were kind of hypocritical...


That's not even close to a double standard.
They act like killing other players are extremely wrong because 1.) They don't know what the hell is going on and 2.) They're doing it just for their own selfish fun.

They have nothing against killing another player so long as their is a reason, which was clearly there.
The guys walked around hunting players all day just for their own pleasure and they attacked them. They simply retaliated and gave them their 'just desserts'.

Being a hypocrite would mean, "IT'S WRONG TO KILL PEOPLE JUST FOR KICKS" and then they themselves went and killed random people just for fun too.
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Oct 14, 2013 4:34 PM
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mayukachan said:
yhunata said:
mayukachan said:
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I still don't really like Akatsuki's character though, too moe.

Yeah this. I feel like the main purpose of her existence in this show is to provide moe and cuteness to the audience. Kind of like Magi's Morgiana except Morg actually has a backstory and develops much more as a character.


There's 2 episodes. Stop complaining about lack of backstory just yet.

I know, I know - but all I've gotten out of her was her moe expressions. It seriously seems like that's the only reason she's here.


Well there's no denying that her character was purposely made to be that way, but the character appearance and interaction with other players is also used as a tool to lighten the mood of the story atmosphere as well.
 
Oct 14, 2013 5:15 PM

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It's so cute watching Shiro and Akatsuki interact. I hope they keep up the fluff. :)
 
Oct 14, 2013 7:21 PM
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Great episode overall!
It was a fun watch to see Shiro and his team fight against the group of Player Killers along with their unique strategy in battle~
 
Oct 14, 2013 7:54 PM

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Well nothing much happen accept we got to see some pvp combat which evolve some tactics but need more story & mystery, still a ok ep nothing mind shocking.
 
Oct 14, 2013 8:30 PM

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I'm glad Log Horizon is sticking to more traditional mmorpg gameplay tactics than a certain other show.
 
Oct 14, 2013 9:56 PM
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yhunata said:


Fhantom_chaos said:
On the manga, it show us shiroe have another character
it is a summoner with level 90 too


This ain't based on a manga.

i know, just told it.
don't know that character can be mention on LN ?i
 
Oct 14, 2013 10:00 PM

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I like how Marielle and Henrietta aren't completely 2-dimensional. They resorted to their assumed flatnessness of what the 1st episode portrayed them as, and used it to try to lighten up the mood.
 
Oct 14, 2013 11:52 PM

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So someone decided to translate all the sub class (LN)

 
Oct 15, 2013 12:38 AM
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Just re-watched the first episode, and realized that we can see very briefly most of the characters the opening point out to be relevant. We've got the little samurai guy and the little priestess girl walking around and being sent of into the wilderness by the PKs of episode 2, that brown haired spear girl being recruited by one of these unfriendly looking guilds, as well as the blue-armored guy with the glasses and the dark armored one with the shoulder spikes...

I find it kinda cool every important character is already around doing his stuff even if the three main did not encounter him yet.
 
Oct 15, 2013 1:05 AM

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So someone decided to translate all the sub class (LN)



Feudal Lord? Prostitute? Accountant? And what the hell is Princess Rose Garden supposed to be? I swear, this MMO has the weirdest sub classes I've seen.
 
Oct 15, 2013 1:13 AM

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Man, love this episode if only for the gryphons... 'cause gryphons are probably my favorite fantasy creature.

Not a hardcore MMO player, but I've played quite a few and I'm glad to see that there are actually other classes than just the same generic classes in most MMO's. A Guardian or Assassin isn't anything new... but things like Elementalists whose only purpose is to support their team is unique for today's MMORPG's. Kinda reminds me of old ones like Dark Age of Camelot, or Everquest... though not nearly as many classes as DAoC. Barely more than WoW's classes, but at least it's got more than your typical re-hashed classes (at least thus far). Nowadays, even healer classes could potentially be awesome even by themselves.

yhunata said:
Fhantom_chaos said:
On the manga, it show us shiroe have another character
it is a summoner with level 90 too


This ain't based on a manga.
This is true, but I just thought I'd point out that there technically is a manga that started in 2012, and I'm assuming it's canon to the light novels.
 
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Hell yeah! Riding on gryphons are awesome!

Akatsuki just gives off that imouto chara vibe... Cuteness XD
I mainly see the animes... so don't blame me for not knowing about the Manga/LN
 
Oct 15, 2013 6:07 AM

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That opening song is sort of addicting in a weird way. I a mreally loving it way more than SAO for sure coz it is more simpler and truer to mmorpg. It makes me want to play one all over again. That teamwork and badassness of Akatsuki! Those griffins and moe Akatsuki! Another awesome episode!
 
Oct 15, 2013 7:15 AM
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Yeah DATABASE DATABASE is just awesome.
Loving the cuteness of our OTP. I see Akatsuki has the hots for shiroe xD
 
Oct 15, 2013 7:49 AM
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Yeah DATABASE DATABASE is just awesome.
Loving the cuteness of our OTP. I see Akatsuki has the hots for shiroe xD

yup the opening is awesome, and yeah Akatsuki is cute^^ and they really fit each other I think...
 
Oct 15, 2013 8:08 AM

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Now they showed their teamwork and the great tactician's tactics, omoshiroi...
 
Oct 15, 2013 8:26 AM
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The battle against the PKers was awesome.

I really like the main characters especially Shiroe and Akatsuki.
 
Oct 15, 2013 9:11 AM

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Better than SAO
 
Oct 15, 2013 12:18 PM
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It was good, I liked most of all for the part of the fight against the PK.
 
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This one is a keeper. :)
 
Oct 15, 2013 1:25 PM
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SAO is still better so far. I don't really like the characters
 
Oct 15, 2013 1:39 PM
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I'm enjoying it so far, hopefully it doesn't face plant halfway through like SAO did, glad i actually decided to give it a shot i was going to just straight up skip it.
 
Oct 15, 2013 3:42 PM

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SAO is still better so far. I don't really like the characters

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SAO is still better so far. I don't really like the characters

Be careful what you say...

Why? He's absolutely right. I don't think this show will ever stand a chance of being nearly as good as SAO.
 
Oct 15, 2013 4:37 PM

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Litrydow said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
thepath said:
SAO is still better so far. I don't really like the characters

Be careful what you say...

Why? He's absolutely right. I don't think this show will ever stand a chance of being nearly as good as SAO.


I don't think any show can near as bad as SAO
 
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Litrydow said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
thepath said:
SAO is still better so far. I don't really like the characters

Be careful what you say...

Why? He's absolutely right. I don't think this show will ever stand a chance of being nearly as good as SAO.

Detected.

I know he's right, but I'm pretty sure the scrubs in this thread will disagree. They can't handle the fact that this show is really an SAO clone.
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Oct 15, 2013 5:38 PM

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Ignis_Scientia said:
I don't think any show can near as bad as SAO

It's because you don't like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.

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I know he's right, but I'm pretty sure the scrubs in this thread will disagree. They can't handle the fact that this show is really an SAO clone.

Ohhhh, I see. This is indeed just a SAO rip-off, people claiming otherwise are just haters.
 
Oct 15, 2013 6:45 PM

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Forgot to say, I like the opening... but to me, it somehow sounds like a Japanese Beastie Boys (towards the beginning) meets a Japanese Ozzy Osbourne (the second half).

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HalfMetalJacket said:
I know he's right, but I'm pretty sure the scrubs in this thread will disagree. They can't handle the fact that this show is really an SAO clone.
Ohhhh, I see. This is indeed just a SAO rip-off, people claiming otherwise are just haters.
Lol, I won't deny that I'm annoyed with all the stuck-in-a-MMO theme animes coming out lately... but thus far the only similarity is just that. If you say this is a rip-off of SAO then you're also saying SAO is a rip-off of every previous series with said theme. Can't say one without the other. Sure, they probably made this into an anime because of how well Sword Art's anime did... but thus far this doesn't have a single similarity except in theme.

Edit: This is basically just like all the idiots who try to say WoW is the MMORPG that started it all. SAO was a decent enough anime, but it's not the first of its kind. Not liking this because of another anime is pretty immature... or just an attempt at trolling.
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Well, I find it quite annoying that they explain every little thing, it's like this episode is my tutorial to play the game. Maybe their game is too complicated, requiring too much explanation. I don't know, but I hope it doesn't continue through the whole series.

 
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Litrydow said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
I don't think any show can near as bad as SAO

It's because you don't like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.

Romance is my favourite genre but I didn't like SAO's rushed romance between the main leads. o_o

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Oct 15, 2013 8:28 PM

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mayukachan said:
Litrydow said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
I don't think any show can near as bad as SAO

It's because you don't like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.

Romance is my favourite genre but I didn't like SAO's rushed romance between the main leads. o_o

Then you should rewatch and appreciate it.
 
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I'm interested in the characters. Hope to see more development in the future!
 
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Litrydow said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
I don't think any show can near as bad as SAO

It's because you don't like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.

HalfMetalJacket said:
I know he's right, but I'm pretty sure the scrubs in this thread will disagree. They can't handle the fact that this show is really an SAO clone.

Ohhhh, I see. This is indeed just a SAO rip-off, people claiming otherwise are just haters.

Glad we cleared it up. Heh.
Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
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Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics.
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Oct 15, 2013 9:15 PM

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Litrydow said:
t like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.


Nope , Romance in SAO is terrible , it is the worst romance i have ever watched .It make romance in FinalFantasy VIII look like a masterpiece .

You surely can enjoy the show but don't confuse it with quality writing .
 
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Shiroe is definitely > Kirito. Strategy? Teamwork? In my MMORPG anime? Hell yes.

Akatsuki is still super loli.

All three of the main characters are pretty likable so far.

And that's kind of sad how players without a purpose just start PK-ing to kill boredom. Hello? How about exploring since death does not actually equal real death?
 
Oct 16, 2013 12:46 AM

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As someone who dropped SAO after the first arc, I was reeeally leery to start watching another MMO anime, but so far Log seems pretty decent. I love how our main chara is a control wizard basically, suits his personality. I'm just really hoping they continue with the strategy aspect until the end and don't toss it when it's inconvenient or when they think it might be too boring or some crap.
 
Oct 16, 2013 4:18 AM

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This is exactly what an RPG anime should be about. SAO was good, but this is much better in the portrayal.
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Oct 16, 2013 6:39 AM

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Ignis_Scientia said:
Litrydow said:
t like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.


Nope , Romance in SAO is terrible , it is the worst romance i have ever watched .It make romance in FinalFantasy VIII look like a masterpiece .

You surely can enjoy the show but don't confuse it with quality writing .

Writing is subjective. I think SAO's romance was one of the best, which is why it's ranked so high here on MAL.
 
Oct 16, 2013 6:54 AM

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Writing is subjective. I think SAO's romance was one of the best, which is why it's ranked so high here on MAL.


That is your opinion not the fact , a lot of professional journalist don't . It appeal to you and meet your demand doesn't mean it have to be good writing or quality story .

I don't care much about what anime you like but people keep compare and said it worse than SAO when it just have 2 ep
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1. The main characters acted like killing other players was extremely wrong, but they proceeded to kill other players just a few minutes later. I understand that they were acting in self defense, but I'm sure they could have avoided conflict if they had such a good scout. Huge double standard right there.

Yeah I also wondered about this. They were kind of hypocritical...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR7FC-h0Fb8
 
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mayukachan said:
Phaetons_Folly said:
1. The main characters acted like killing other players was extremely wrong, but they proceeded to kill other players just a few minutes later. I understand that they were acting in self defense, but I'm sure they could have avoided conflict if they had such a good scout. Huge double standard right there.

Yeah I also wondered about this. They were kind of hypocritical...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR7FC-h0Fb8


Dem alts!
Anyway, the team (or should I say 'Party') has already found out that people are (not) die if they were killed.
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Oct 16, 2013 9:06 AM
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Litrydow said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
Litrydow said:
t like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.


Nope , Romance in SAO is terrible , it is the worst romance i have ever watched .It make romance in FinalFantasy VIII look like a masterpiece .

You surely can enjoy the show but don't confuse it with quality writing .

Writing is subjective. I think SAO's romance was one of the best, which is why it's ranked so high here on MAL.

Yes. that romance is best for noob and F.A guy
 
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Litrydow said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
Litrydow said:
t like the romance genre, that's all, the show is just not for you.


Nope , Romance in SAO is terrible , it is the worst romance i have ever watched .It make romance in FinalFantasy VIII look like a masterpiece .

You surely can enjoy the show but don't confuse it with quality writing .

Writing is subjective. I think SAO's romance was one of the best, which is why it's ranked so high here on MAL.

You're right, it is all subjective, to a degree. Everyone has their own opinions, but it can become a problem when their pushed onto others. Going by the LN, I did enjoy SAO's romance, but might I give other recommendations for romance enthusiasts? Just to name a few, David Gemmel's Troy Trilogy, The Lions of Al-Rassan, Tigana :P
Honestly if you're willing to open a book, there are plenty of great stories to be told outside of anime, including that of the romance genre.
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*Checks Litrydow's list.*
The sarcasm is passing under the radar...
Yup, SAO 10/10. Just like my list. Only I can understand Litrydow.
Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.).
Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!)
Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe
Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics.
Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it.

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