Slicer22 said: Well, you mentioned several examples and we can debate whether or how such-and-such LN is better than its anime adaptation as much as we want, but the one you picked above is the one that needs the least debate: Shana is the one that most fans of the LN would call it "badly adapted" and not least because it made so many changes from the LN which are not necessary nor make it better. Recently I see anime adaptation is a lot more likely to stay faithful to the LN and I think it is a good thing in general. And while I have not checked Season 3 I heard that most of the LN fans think it is the most faithful and the best adaptation of the LN among the three, and even the ending, which is not really the same as the LN ending (from what I heard), got good feedback from fans. Too bad it came way too late to make any wave when it was aired. Firstly none of the things i even mentioned were 1 cour to begin with so that time constraint issue you mentioned should really not be an issue and because i am not looking for a long discussion and i do not want to write a wall of text i will throw out an example of how the Shana LN was better than the anime and that would be the Friagne fight. In the anime do you even remember it, it became a jumpy convoluted mess that really makes little sense in comparison to the novel version of it. Also they screwed up seasons 1 and 2 by changing things and leaving things out so when season 3 came out it had many people asking themselves wtf is going on and for me season 3 was the best out of all 3 after i filled in the gaping holes left by the previous 2 lackluster anime adaptations. Slicer22 said: Here the adaptation choice needs to be careful. For a LN fan of course they want as much of the monologues and infodump as possible but too much of it will surely kill an anime, particularly since most of the viewers of such anime are unlikely to have read the original LNs (and one big objective for such anime is to get these people to buy and read the LNs) who would just fall asleep with those monologues and infodumps. And I believe one reason why Haruhi and Bakemonogatari got immensely popular with both the fans of the original LN and those who are new to the works is because they all got the balance right with the issue, putting enough of monologues/infodump not to alienate the LN fans (or undermine the mood and feel of the work) but not so much that it turns off the newcomers. Also i already mentioned for me leaving out inner monologues or infodumps are a major issue for me just imagine The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya without Kyon's inner monologue and it should be clear as day how important inner monologues can be his are one of the best things about the series. Slicer22 said: Actually I don't find the last arc of Railgun2 that bad. I think it is consistent with the growth of Misaka (and she learned in the Sisters Arc) and also refocused the series on the ensemble, which is what really what the series is about. If it had ended in the Sister Arc then it would be just Misaka running the show on her own, and I don't think that is the point for the series.Then it crashed and skidded along the concrete floor on its face with that horrible anime original arc after which is a shame. |
symbvOct 6, 2013 6:31 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Slicer22 said: Actually I don't find the last arc of Railgun2 that bad. I think it is consistent with the growth of Misaka (and she learned in the Sisters Arc) and also refocused the series on the ensemble, which is what really what the series is about. If it had ended in the Sister Arc then it would be just Misaka running the show on her own, and I don't think that is the point for the series.Then it crashed and skidded along the concrete floor on its face with that horrible anime original arc after which is a shame. I would have to disagree about the anime original arc being fine or even close to good but really i do not need to repeat the issues here the last few episode discussions on Railgun forums more than point out the issues with it so i will leave at simply different opinions about that. |
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| Mahouka is much better than SAO. It is more mature and have a more 'adult' feeling. duckofdoom said: Steel_Queen said: Pretty much. Not like their plots are similar but they share some common themes. - MC is too perfect similar to Kirito. Even if they consider him a low-rank at first. - Girls are all over him. (Alright, this is a general similarity since every harem is like that) - Incestuous themes. - And the popularity is the pretty much the same. It was a matter of time until an anime adaption is announced, just look at those sales. I would have to disagree with the 2nd point. MC does not have girls all over him, and it is not a harem. They respect him, and are inerested, but they do like him like that. There are only 2 I can think who actually like him romantically. Also, while I agree both MC's are OP, the level is so different it hurts, so comparing them is a little unfair. Kirito is OP because of no reason, Tatsuya is OP because of inhuman and rigorous training ever since he was a kid. It's stupid to even compare the two. Tatsuya have no harem, like duck said there's one or two girl at best that actually like him. It's closer to Toradora in that respect (as in there's many pairing going on and it ain't a harem). There is no incestuous theme. Miyuki and Tatsuya are very close and cannot live without each other but it is not because they love each other romantically. I won't disclose the reasons here because of spoilers. The popularity is the same but one earned it by having good writing, coherent plot/universe and interesting characters while the other wrote SAO. Don't get me wrong, SAO entertained me as much as Mahouka did but Mahouka rape SAO hands down if we're talking objectively. Also mfw Madhouse take the project ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s |
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DarknessOfEmo said: At the very least, try to read things from both sides first: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: me too.Even I don't know what the heck and why this show is getting popular anyway.Steel_Queen said: welp i lost all urge to watch thisPretty much. Not like their plots are similar but they share some common themes. - MC is too perfect similar to Kirito. Even if they consider him a low-rank at first. - Girls are all over him. (Alright, this is a general similarity since every harem is like that) - Incestuous themes. - And the popularity is the pretty much the same. It was a matter of time until an anime adaption is announced, just look at those sales. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=672507&show=80#msg25563621 |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I have read part of the LN, let's see what will happen with this. :) |
AerbageOct 6, 2013 7:02 AM
| Dies Irae! :) |
| no MAL Anime page yet?? |
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Shangetsu said: Mahouka is much better than SAO. It is more mature and have a more 'adult' feeling. duckofdoom said: Steel_Queen said: Pretty much. Not like their plots are similar but they share some common themes. - MC is too perfect similar to Kirito. Even if they consider him a low-rank at first. - Girls are all over him. (Alright, this is a general similarity since every harem is like that) - Incestuous themes. - And the popularity is the pretty much the same. It was a matter of time until an anime adaption is announced, just look at those sales. I would have to disagree with the 2nd point. MC does not have girls all over him, and it is not a harem. They respect him, and are inerested, but they do like him like that. There are only 2 I can think who actually like him romantically. Also, while I agree both MC's are OP, the level is so different it hurts, so comparing them is a little unfair. Kirito is OP because of no reason, Tatsuya is OP because of inhuman and rigorous training ever since he was a kid. It's stupid to even compare the two. Tatsuya have no harem, like duck said there's one or two girl at best that actually like him. It's closer to Toradora in that respect (as in there's many pairing going on and it ain't a harem). There is no incestuous theme. Miyuki and Tatsuya are very close and cannot live without each other but it is not because they love each other romantically. I won't disclose the reasons here because of spoilers. The popularity is the same but one earned it by having good writing, coherent plot/universe and interesting characters while the other wrote SAO. Don't get me wrong, SAO entertained me as much as Mahouka did but Mahouka rape SAO hands down if we're talking objectively. Also mfw Madhouse take the project ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s But Kirito is so good because of his knowledge as a beta tester and how similar each game is with SAO. |
| I see the shitstorm and smear campaign on Mahouka already started. Gonna make it so it becomes the next SAO. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
kuuderes_shadow said: This was bound to happen sooner or later. And the flame wars have started already. OMG! I'm late for the beginning of Flame Wars @_@ |
Pusswookie said: This, cressidaaa said: Levi and Eren should be bro's. I'm rooting for their friendship! is truth. |
UltraZulwarn said: Some time earlier in another thread I gave one reason that I saw fans in Japan speculate about the delay of anime adaptation, and it is how foreign countries, particularly Korea which has sensitive relationship with Japan currently, are treated in the novels. As I have not read the LNs I don't know how bad it was, and it also got me wonder, now that it will become an anime, will this issue stay unchanged from the LN?4th. Well, This is not wrong, but it took reallllllllyy long for there is even an announcement for Mahouka. It is not very fair (IMO) as Date A Live got its adaptation when there was only 4 vols. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I can't say I like what I read in the (early parts of) manga, so I guess I'll give low expectation and just watch this for lulz. Also, while they're two completely different series, from what I read I find the comparation between SAO and Mahouka have some actual bases. I guess they also have similar base for commercial success, can't wait to see the internetz warz. |
| The critics who leapt through time. There are a lot of them in this forum |
Suntears said: The critics who leapt through time. There are a lot of them in this forum Believe it or not: Some of us actually read novels and are therefore familiar with the source material... |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| This is Atlas Shrugged the LN, right? I'll be looking forward to Objectivism posts. |
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Nidhoeggr said: Suntears said: The critics who leapt through time. There are a lot of them in this forum Believe it or not: Some of us actually read novels and are therefore familiar with the source material... But you can't be sure the anime will turns into something horrible, can you? And I believe that won't be the case since the novel is far from horrible (imo), and who knows, Madhouse might turns it into amazing anime in the end. |
opernlied said: This is Atlas Shrugged the LN, right? I'll be looking forward to Objectivism posts. Big words here, opern. Very big words. Please, not even as a joke. Suntears said: Nidhoeggr said: Suntears said: The critics who leapt through time. There are a lot of them in this forum Believe it or not: Some of us actually read novels and are therefore familiar with the source material... But you can't be sure the anime will turns into something horrible, can you? And I believe that won't be the case since the novel is far from horrible (imo), and who knows, Madhouse might turns it into amazing anime in the end. It would have to be a very liberal adaption then, but true: at least the production values will most likely be alright. |
NidhoeggrOct 6, 2013 8:10 AM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Prepare for the "controversial" portrayal of Korea though. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
UltraZulwarn said: Not Korea, mostly people with Chinese descend (as there is no longer China or "Korea" when the story starts). My apologies if I happened to offend anyone in here... Believe it or not, the hate between Japanese and Korean is stronger than the hate between Japanese and Chinese. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| This absolute hype train already begin and will keep like that. As for the manga, there is nothing special about this show. I just hope manga is crap compare to original LN otherwise i'm not sure why there is hype. |
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Han-yuu said: Why don't you also mention the hate train that is starting and moving along with it? Perhaps because you are in one? This absolute hype train already begin and will keep like that. . |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Han-yuu said: This absolute hype train already begin and will keep like that. As for the manga, there is nothing special about this show. I just hope manga is crap compare to original LN otherwise i'm not sure why there is hype. I read the LN up to vol 3, and I can say it's pretty faithful, with minor differences, like what we'd expect. IMO it starts slow, but I heard things start to go down on the later volumes, so I really can't tell... symbv said: Han-yuu said: Why don't you also mention the hate train that is starting and moving along with it? Perhaps because you are in one? This absolute hype train already begin and will keep like that. . lol |
| I've noticed that a lot of these Dengeki LNs that are getting adapted recently have at least one of these 2 main themes: magic or knights or some sort of warriors using some sort of magic. It must be a new trend exclusive to this publication. |
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symbv said: Han-yuu said: Why don't you also mention the hate train that is starting and moving along with it? Perhaps because you are in one? This absolute hype train already begin and will keep like that. . Hype train =/= Love train. That's publicize exaggeration includes both love and hate. I don't understand this hype. It's just your typical show. As for me. I will decide which one i'm in after checking the anime. |
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| Really excited for this. I pray for incest ending. |
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| For the first time, I am glad that the Madhouse curse exists, which means that this thing is going to flop regardless of how popular is the source material. |
| Woop. Gonna be epic. |
| Awesome! |
| So fuucking awesome, my day was made! This and Black Bullet ^^ YES YES YES! |
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Hoppy said: I've noticed that a lot of these Dengeki LNs that are getting adapted recently have at least one of these 2 main themes: magic or knights or some sort of warriors using some sort of magic. It must be a new trend exclusive to this publication. Fantasy or Hard Sci-if are among the most common genres within LN's. Remember MJ Bunko J 5 announcements ? |
| Seems like the light novel is highly popular, gonna watch it, let's see how well it is |
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| Interested in the manga, now it got an anime. Whoo. So watching it! It would be awesome if we can get it as early on the start or on the spring of 2014. |
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Suntears said: Nidhoeggr said: Suntears said: The critics who leapt through time. There are a lot of them in this forum Believe it or not: Some of us actually read novels and are therefore familiar with the source material... But you can't be sure the anime will turns into something horrible, can you? And I believe that won't be the case since the novel is far from horrible (imo), and who knows, Madhouse might turns it into amazing anime in the end. You are absolutely right, we do not know how it will turns out. It might be good or it might be awful and only time will tell. However, there's a lot of people that are comparing and judging it on absolutely no basis. My (and a lot of fan of the LN) message concern such people. I am not trying to tell you that it will be the anime of the year but rather I'm trying to shatter those illusion made of bullshit by people who don't like something just because it's popular. Comparing SAO to Mahouka is stupid. The only thing they got in common is that they are both novel published by Dengeki that started out as web novels. |
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