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geralt said: Great episode and this arc is pretty good, but man, I miss Senjougahara. Anyway, was Nadeko referring to Hanekawa or Senjougahara when they were talking about about the perfect match for Araragi? Nadeko was referring to Hanekawa, where as Tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara. This is confirmed by Nadeko's reaction to the Hanekawa-esque porn mags. She thought it was natural. If she had been referring to Senjougahara, she would probably have been confused. |
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| Poor Nadeko... I had secondhand embarrassment for her at the last part. |
| Haha that ending...Ah man can not wait for the next episode to come out. Should be the concluding episode to this arc eh? |
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| Woa! Nadeko flipped out and told everyone off at her school! I was not expecting that. |
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| Welp, that escalated quickly. |
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| Nice episode. I felt a cliffhanger at the ending. Also nice voice acting from Hanazawa. That ANGRY Nadeko. |
| I loved Nadeko's Medusa hair as she was walking away from the teacher. That was a nice touch. |
| I rarely notice voice acting since im often focused in stories but this episode i noticed it well. Perhaps because of the high contrast. |
| Nadeko was going all out there. That ending! |
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| Dat was some serious voice acting. I have a new found respect for Nadeko's seiyuu. Anyone else thinking that she was referirng to Hanekawa as the perfect girl for Araragi while tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara? |
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mugimugi said: They cut out my Karen. And flying Tsukihi. Also that big reveal that Karen is now known as the Koyomi Rider (nonsexual). Oh, they did cut good stuff again. In the end, I still need to read em books. Shitz. |
| Oh boy, I've heard HanaKana go psycho in Mouretsu Pirates and Kamisama Dolls but THIS was the best one of the lot! 6/5 would Yuri, this arc is really shaping up to be amazing. Might have to wait 2 weeks due to going on holiday! |
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X10A_Freedom said: Thanks, I was trying to remember where I'd heard her let loose and I even own Mouretsu Pirates and am in the middle of re-watching it! Chiaki-chan "...chan ja nai!" I guess Chiaki-chan (oops, even I say it) is like this role, different enough from her usual quiet cute roles that I sometimes forget it is her. Love that show too!Oh boy, I've heard HanaKana go psycho in Mouretsu Pirates and Kamisama Dolls but THIS was the best one of the lot! 6/5 would Yuri, this arc is really shaping up to be amazing. Might have to wait 2 weeks due to going on holiday! From how much they covered here, three chapters or so, it looks like they will easily finish the 25 chapters available. In fact as I was worried at first, they can take 3-4 chapters for a single match which probably just takes 1 episode to do so they might even need some filler if this has 12 episodes. I hope not but in the magazine last month they actually did the first chapter of Elena's side story so it looks liike they just have 25 chapters to do for the season unless they somehow end it with her side story. |
hpulleyOct 12, 2013 7:43 PM
mugimugi said: Only little things. Also, the haircut assault was clearly an act of revenge by the brocon Tsukihi after her seeing Sengoku in her brother's bed. Crazy women everywhere. Thanks. Nevertheless, I still eager to read Otori and Hana after this, as these are the only two left of the Second Season that I have yet to read. |
mugimugi said: This season (including Neko Kuro) are the first time I had read them beforehand. As of Bake and Nise I didn't know about the novels enough to read them yet. I love reading the novels but at this point I'm not sure if it is better to read them before or after I watch. I think the anime has been ruined a bit for me by reading it beforehand and then going, "awww, why did they skip that part? I was looking forward to it! Aww, why did they change that part?" I think this one might work better to read afterward and fill in the pieces but often that ruins things the other way round... Damned if you read it first, damned if you read it after...yukaru00 said: mugimugi said: Only little things. Also, the haircut assault was clearly an act of revenge by the brocon Tsukihi after her seeing Sengoku in her brother's bed. Crazy women everywhere. Thanks. Nevertheless, I still eager to read Otori and Hana after this, as these are the only two left of the Second Season that I have yet to read. Yeah, and I recommend to do so. Reading with Nadeko as narrator was great. The novel had a slight creepy feeling in my opinion. And my fascination about Kanbaru mostly comes from (all) of her appearances and mono- and dialogues in them. |
hpulley said: This season (including Neko Kuro) are the first time I had read them beforehand. As of Bake and Nise I didn't know about the novels enough to read them yet. I love reading the novels but at this point I'm not sure if it is better to read them before or after I watch. I think the anime has been ruined a bit for me by reading it beforehand and then going, "awww, why did they skip that part? I was looking forward to it! Aww, why did they change that part?" I think this one might work better to read afterward and fill in the pieces but often that ruins things the other way round... Damned if you read it first, damned if you read it after... I know that feels. I did the same as you do. I started out serious with Koi, then jumping backwards to Neko Shiro and Kabuki, followed by Oni, thus, leaving Otori and Hana yet to be read. I didn't care much about Neko Kuro though and I read Kizu beforehand (the fan-translated one) and stopped at the brim of the climax. Now catching up with Tsuki and Koyomi. Oh, skipping less important scenes is okay but skipping relevant conversations that are actually important to the upcoming plot is just bad and disappointing. |
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mugimugi said: The novels and anime deliver different kind of moods and feels. It also feels like the mystery genre is stronger in the novel by the way they are written. I always preferred the novels over the anime, but mainly because of the author. The anime is literally fanservice for me, but I am glad (more or less) that Shaft and team Shinbo adapted it. Reading them before or after the anime doesn't really matter to me but I usually try to read them as soon as possible after the release. The only one I didn't read was Oni because I got spoiled and thought maybe I'll let this one be an anime first. Lol. Please. Read Oni. The service is fucking awesome. There are much of it besides those spoilers you have read. |
yukaru00 said: Playing armchair series composition director is fun but as you say it can also be disappointing when it doesn't go the way you would hope. I agree editing for time is fine but crucial stuff like parts of the letter are very frustrating when you know they are missing.hpulley said: This season (including Neko Kuro) are the first time I had read them beforehand. As of Bake and Nise I didn't know about the novels enough to read them yet. I love reading the novels but at this point I'm not sure if it is better to read them before or after I watch. I think the anime has been ruined a bit for me by reading it beforehand and then going, "awww, why did they skip that part? I was looking forward to it! Aww, why did they change that part?" I think this one might work better to read afterward and fill in the pieces but often that ruins things the other way round... Damned if you read it first, damned if you read it after... I know that feels. I did the same as you do. I started out serious with Koi, then jumping backwards to Neko Shiro and Kabuki, followed by Oni, thus, leaving Otori and Hana yet to be read. I didn't care much about Neko Kuro though and I read Kizu beforehand (the fan-translated one) and stopped at the brim of the climax. Now catching up with Tsuki and Koyomi. Oh, skipping less important scenes is okay but skipping relevant conversations that are actually important to the upcoming plot is just bad and disappointing. I need to read Hana and Tsuki still. Oni is going to be... shouldn't say anything! |
hpulley said: Playing armchair series composition director is fun but as you say it can also be disappointing when it doesn't go the way you would hope. I agree editing for time is fine but crucial stuff like parts of the letter are very frustrating when you know they are missing. I need to read Hana and Tsuki still. Oni is going to be... shouldn't say anything! The letter. Exactly. Also, the scene that supposedly shown, where Araragi and Shinobu lingering around before they meet with Hachikuji-shi. That is one point where the residents would see them and make stories out of them, as what Oshino is referring to in his letter. And... Oni should be awesome, or else I'll lose hope for the climax Koi. |
| Welp, gotta say I really like this arc (surprisingly). From the three arcs we've seen, it's IMO the best one. Syntriate said: geralt said: Great episode and this arc is pretty good, but man, I miss Senjougahara. Anyway, was Nadeko referring to Hanekawa or Senjougahara when they were talking about about the perfect match for Araragi? Nadeko was referring to Hanekawa, where as Tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara. This is confirmed by Nadeko's reaction to the Hanekawa-esque porn mags. She thought it was natural. If she had been referring to Senjougahara, she would probably have been confused. ...No, not really. Her reaction to the mags doesn't prove that at all. Also why would Nadeko even refer to Hanekawa? |
huuuh said: She doesn't refer to Hanekawa at that point in the novel when she is looking at the magazines but she absolutely does refer to her earlier several times but most importantly on page 177 where Tsuhiki says under her breath someone else being most suitable... but Senjougahara is not actually mentioned out loud so since it is narrated by Nadeko she does not actually hear it at that point. Actually I may need to flip through the whole book again to see if Senjougahara's name is ever actually mentioned. She is who I was thinking of when I replied to this above and said obviously Senjougahara but now I'm trying to remember if Nadeko actually met her? I read and watch too much and am getting confused so I may need to read/watch Nadeko Snake again.Welp, gotta say I really like this arc (surprisingly). From the three arcs we've seen, it's IMO the best one. Syntriate said: geralt said: Great episode and this arc is pretty good, but man, I miss Senjougahara. Anyway, was Nadeko referring to Hanekawa or Senjougahara when they were talking about about the perfect match for Araragi? Nadeko was referring to Hanekawa, where as Tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara. This is confirmed by Nadeko's reaction to the Hanekawa-esque porn mags. She thought it was natural. If she had been referring to Senjougahara, she would probably have been confused. ...No, not really. Her reaction to the mags doesn't prove that at all. Also why would Nadeko even refer to Hanekawa? In the Otori book too, since Hanekawa is class prez and so is Nadeko she compares herself to her earlier. |
| So,does Sengoku know Koyomi's girlfriend in Senjougahara or she think is someone else? |
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mugimugi said: huuuh said: Welp, gotta say I really like this arc (surprisingly). From the three arcs we've seen, it's IMO the best one. Syntriate said: geralt said: Great episode and this arc is pretty good, but man, I miss Senjougahara. Anyway, was Nadeko referring to Hanekawa or Senjougahara when they were talking about about the perfect match for Araragi? Nadeko was referring to Hanekawa, where as Tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara. This is confirmed by Nadeko's reaction to the Hanekawa-esque porn mags. She thought it was natural. If she had been referring to Senjougahara, she would probably have been confused. ...No, not really. Her reaction to the mags doesn't prove that at all. Also why would Nadeko even refer to Hanekawa? She met Hanekawa with Koyomi during Bakemonogatari. But I'm not saying she's referring to her as Koyomi's GF. Yeah, I remember that part. And I also remember that Nadeko "ran away" from Hanekawa, but IIRC, she ran because of some other weird reason, right? hpulley said: huuuh said: She doesn't refer to Hanekawa at that point in the novel when she is looking at the magazines but she absolutely does refer to her earlier several times but most importantly on page 177 where Tsuhiki says under her breath someone else being most suitable... but Senjougahara is not actually mentioned out loud so since it is narrated by Nadeko she does not actually hear it at that point. Actually I may need to flip through the whole book again to see if Senjougahara's name is ever actually mentioned. She is who I was thinking of when I replied to this above and said obviously Senjougahara but now I'm trying to remember if Nadeko actually met her? I read and watch too much and am getting confused so I may need to read/watch Nadeko Snake again.Welp, gotta say I really like this arc (surprisingly). From the three arcs we've seen, it's IMO the best one. Syntriate said: geralt said: Great episode and this arc is pretty good, but man, I miss Senjougahara. Anyway, was Nadeko referring to Hanekawa or Senjougahara when they were talking about about the perfect match for Araragi? Nadeko was referring to Hanekawa, where as Tsukihi was referring to Senjougahara. This is confirmed by Nadeko's reaction to the Hanekawa-esque porn mags. She thought it was natural. If she had been referring to Senjougahara, she would probably have been confused. ...No, not really. Her reaction to the mags doesn't prove that at all. Also why would Nadeko even refer to Hanekawa? In the Otori book too, since Hanekawa is class prez and so is Nadeko she compares herself to her earlier. |
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huuuh said: Nisio Isin loves to break the 4th wall in his works, especially in Monogatari. |
| Yes, yes yes! Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? |
Grouchio said: Submit a news story!Yes, yes yes! Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? |
Grouchio said: Yes, yes yes! Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? Page ga mitsukarimasen. Page cannot be found. what? |
| O.O where is my cute little Sengoku? Wow, totally unexpected. Great episode. |
Grouchio said: Yes, yes yes! Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? Monogatari haremites confirmed as Magical Girls?!?! |
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yukaru00 said: Grouchio said: Yes, yes yes! Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? Page ga mitsukarimasen. Page cannot be found. what? here, http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/1310/07/news023.html that link Grouchio post has ... so it cannot be found :D |
yukaru00 said: Thing is, given the time limit, what would you cut if those scenes are kept. No easy answer...mugimugi said: Oh, they did cut good stuff again.They cut out my Karen. And flying Tsukihi. Also that big reveal that Karen is now known as the Koyomi Rider (nonsexual). In the end, I still need to read em books. Shitz. Grouchio said: The link in the source seems to be broken though. Apparently Shaft is making a crossover between monogatari and puella magi madoka magica, for promotion of their upcoming madoka movie. They will be some shorts played before the madoka movies. Source: http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/article...7/news023.html Where should I put this? Anyway I know what it is. It will be something like the trailer made after a Bake episode with Karen and Tsukihi (or some other characters) making announcements that is pretty unrelated to the next episode (until the last moment). They even have come up with the caricature version of Homua and Kyubei in the same style as those Bake trailer shorts. Not sure if it is worth its own news thread though. EDIT: pikeman1's post has the link that works. So it is indeed what I am talking above. |
symbvOct 7, 2013 10:57 PM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Thing is, given the time limit, what would you cut if those scenes are kept. No easy answer... above. "Flying" Tsukihi seems interesting though. Koyomi Rider seems like irrelevant, so they can ditch that scene. Only if they use that budget and time left to make the arc longer as it should be instead of wasting tv slots with recaps with different POVs... |
| Oh shit I just loved how Sengoku snapped. Anyway, is it just me or Tsukihi cut her hair again? Or was that short since from the start of this season? |
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yukaru00 said: I am not sure if you read what I wrote before, but that is not Wasting because Shimbo said in an interview that the recap is NECESSARY for his studio to recuperate in the animation work. So the question is either not coming with anything AT ALL for one week, or at least have something for the watchers on that week. So I'd say at least they put in some effort to edit and come up with the recaps, even though most fans would have understandably preferred a brand new episode.Only if they use that budget and time left to make the arc longer as it should be instead of wasting tv slots with recaps with different POVs... |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: yukaru00 said: I am not sure if you read what I wrote before, but that is not Wasting because Shimbo said in an interview that the recap is NECESSARY for his studio to recuperate in the animation work. So the question is either not coming with anything AT ALL for one week, or at least have something for the watchers on that week. So I'd say at least they put in some effort to edit and come up with the recaps, even though most fans would have understandably preferred a brand new episode.Only if they use that budget and time left to make the arc longer as it should be instead of wasting tv slots with recaps with different POVs... I know. I have read that stuff somewhere else. I didn't mind those recaps though because they are indeed good. Either way, I still think that Shinbo used this as an excuse though. 2 cours are pretty much compact anyways to cover all the 5 volumes. Also, as much as those recaps are meant to keep his staff steady, those recaps are also meant to recover the delayed Hanamonogatari slots. My opinions anyway. Sorry if my words are a bit rude. |
| So Nadeko finally exploded :o Nadeko Pls don't turn into a tsundere coz we already have Senjougahara xD Anyway This episode was freaking awesome. I really wana see what happens next. |
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| when i saw nadeko's character change , i was like ... OMG Kana Hanazawa , is that really her ?.....she's too awesome..... |
| Wow, that voice acting... great job Hanazawa, as always! |
CanisTomek said: O.O where is my cute little Sengoku? Wow, totally unexpected. Great episode. Right? Well hopefully it turns out all right :p |
| ... I still think Nadeko look better with longer bangs... |
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