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Oct 5, 2013 11:00 AM

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Horrible subs has the subed version if anyone wants to watch that, but asides from that i really really enjoyed this first episode, i thought it was amazing, and tbh i was not expecting much from it.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:00 AM

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I think I am gonna kill someone right now. J.C Staff...what the fuck did you do? I mean, like 75% of Kurugaya's route adapted in 10 minutes?

Not even Tsukihime's non-existent anime was so fail.

If 75% of one characters arc was adapted in half an episode there must be a lot of story to tell in 26 episodes. The VN must be one of the longest.

Anyways, great first episode. Took a few minutes to get back into it, trying to remember all the characters. There were some great scenes.
5/5


It's not that the VN is long, the VN is reliant on a lot of building up so that the climax of the story has the biggest impact possible. By shortening Kurugaya's route it gives them more episodes to build up with so that the drama is really solid.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:00 AM

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The feels are yet to come.
Nice episode.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:02 AM

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mitch3315 said:
RediceRyan said:
apau said:
I think I am gonna kill someone right now. J.C Staff...what the fuck did you do? I mean, like 75% of Kurugaya's route adapted in 10 minutes?

Not even Tsukihime's non-existent anime was so fail.

If 75% of one characters arc was adapted in half an episode there must be a lot of story to tell in 26 episodes. The VN must be one of the longest.


26 episodes would be incredibly drawn out.


And 13 episodes would be rushing it incredibly fast. After Storys linecount was less than Refrain, but it took 13 episodes. They'd have to rush it far more than After Story while also fitting in Kurugaya and Rins routes. Thats just not doable without it being a total disaster.

 
Oct 5, 2013 11:10 AM

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*After Story took 14 eps, 9-22, and it's about the same length as Refrain.
I personally feel like they're going to do some nicely done development throughout Refrain and keep it a similar length, and pace Rin's route better (but I guess slower) than the other routes.

So yeah, extra common route, 14 eps for the weekly suffering arc, I mean the Refrain arc, and the rest for Kurugaya+ Rin.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:14 AM

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*After Story took 14 eps, 9-22, and it's about the same length as Refrain.
I personally feel like they're going to do some nicely done development throughout Refrain and keep it a similar length, and pace Rin's route better (but I guess slower) than the other routes.

So yeah, extra common route, 14 eps for the weekly suffering arc, I mean the Refrain arc, and the rest for Kurugaya+ Rin.

Yeah, I really want more common route <_<
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:16 AM

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Finally, I was able to watch it.

DAT OP
DAT FORESHADOWING
DAT RIN
DAT EVERYTHING
Such a great first episode.

Yes, it's just as I heard, Little Busters is saved!
Or, well, it seems like so far. I'm still hoping they won't screw it up in some way or another.

Like I said, the OP is absolutely wonderful (Both the song and the animation), worthy of Refrain without a second thought.
The ED however...is kind of meh :( It's not bad, but it's nowhere near as good as the two OPs and the previous ED. Or any other ending song from the VN :/
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:18 AM

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Oh yeah, show those girls who's boss Yuiko. JC Staff did a nice job with this episode. A few changes here and there but overall, quite enjoyable.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:19 AM

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Damn a great start of the 2nd season, the op was pretty emotional too. A good start for Kurugaya's route, though what I heard that some viewers might think that the route would change directions and rushed most of the time. Well I haven't played the game for this so let's see how it goes in the next couple episodes.

Well same concept, animation, characters, ost, setting, and story, though it will be much more emotional than the previous season which I hope for the best.

 
Oct 5, 2013 11:20 AM

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Is JC Staff gonna animate those glorious kurugaya moments in riki's flashback that appeared this episode?
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:21 AM

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Riki and Yuiko Romance? although I prefer Rin and Riki
i love OP & ED *-*
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:23 AM

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Riki and Yuiko Romance? although I prefer Rin and Riki
i love OP & ED *-*
In fact I like both couples for some reason, so it doesn't matter who ends up with who for me 030
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:54 AM
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I really love the anime. And it makes me want to pay the visual novel. But I CAN'T TAKE JAPANESE! Or I have to take an extra year of language.

Its nice to see the anime back. I'm definitely going to enjoy it. And the animation was really good this episode. DOOR-KUN!!!!! Good job showing an example.
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:01 PM
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I really love the anime. And it makes me want to pay the visual novel. But I CAN'T TAKE JAPANESE! Or I have to take an extra year of language.


You do realise there is an English translation, right?
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:02 PM

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Kurugaya best girl. Just saying.
Also, dem OST.

Anyway, my feels are not ready.
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:11 PM

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mitch3315 said:
Acxelion said:
I really love the anime. And it makes me want to pay the visual novel. But I CAN'T TAKE JAPANESE! Or I have to take an extra year of language.


You do realise there is an English translation, right?
Unless ur talking bout EX
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:18 PM

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This episode man. the way how Kurugaya was when she snapped, I was literally shaking.

Not bad for a start.
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:24 PM

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First thing I have to say... every soundtrack was SO misplaced. Seriously, it makes me sad that they don't know how or when to make us of some tracks.
Now... Kuragaya was so baddass! I love her character, probably the only one I care about from the none-former-Little-busters characters.
The OP is really pretty, I like it better than the one from the first season. The animation looked very fluid, but they're probably not going to be able to keep it like that for the rest of episodes.
Anyway, nice episode!
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:27 PM

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Yes!~ Finally I can watch Little Busters again :)
First episode was amazing too <3
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:28 PM

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Great episode! Kurugaya.. wow! I can't wait for the next episode!
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:28 PM

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Best girl coming through http://i.imgur.com/or1koUn.jpg

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First thing I have to say... every soundtrack was SO misplaced.

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Maybe compared to the VN there was different placement, but compared to how badly placed and at what volume the music was last season, this was much better. I didn't find anything as glaringly wrong as last season.
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:31 PM

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Magnificent episode, great OP & ED.

Pancake party. YEY

Why would such a person put a thumbtacks on Kud's bag and torn Komari's notebooks.

I'll make sure that i won't pick a fight with Kurugaya.

The girls reaction was so funny. http://i.imgur.com/GwHmT42.jpg

Great ED song.

Looking forward to more of this.
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Oct 5, 2013 12:31 PM

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I want to hear it again the piano that Kurugaya play. She is indeed the best LB heroine. I really miss the day when LB gang fooling around.

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Oct 5, 2013 12:31 PM

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Best girl coming through http://i.imgur.com/or1koUn.jpg
The holding hands scene was unexpected to me possibly because I never knew riki had dem female like hands
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:39 PM
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Oh man awesome start... Already love the OP...
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:53 PM
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Best girl coming through http://i.imgur.com/or1koUn.jpg
The holding hands scene was unexpected to me possibly because I never knew riki had dem female like hands

well he always had a lot of feminine sides

also female seiyuu ^^

A cuddle a day keeps the pouting away~
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Oct 5, 2013 1:00 PM

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LITTLE BUSTERS SAIKYOOOOOOOOOoooo *wheeze wheeze* lol

gotta love Kyousuke
 
Oct 5, 2013 1:08 PM
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epic_joelle said:
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Best girl coming through http://i.imgur.com/or1koUn.jpg
The holding hands scene was unexpected to me possibly because I never knew riki had dem female like hands

well he always had a lot of feminine sides

also female seiyuu ^^


Timing is the definition of feminant. Though that's for a reason. Also considering he's being voiced by ayu. I'm glad they decided to deviate from the Kyoto style of animation and make things more artistic.
 
Oct 5, 2013 1:24 PM

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Wat? There's a real budget in my little busters animu???

Anyway, I'm kinda afraid that they will use a ton of still images again thx to the first 10 seconds, but I'm glad that the rest of the episode are so fluid (compared to the first season, of course). Finally, some deserving budget!

From this point I haven't continued the VN, so I'm pretty much blind this time. I'm somehow still pretty skeptical that this will got 24/26 episodes (I hope Rita spoke a truth though lol) since the first episode is pretty fast paced, but we'll see...

Anyway, the ED is OK and OP is excellent. I think it could grow pretty much similar like After Story's OP.
 
Oct 5, 2013 1:26 PM

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I like to see Kurogaya angry for her friends.
This new season seems better than the first one. Nice to see some new music tracks.
As a VN reader I approve the first episode. 4/5, it could be a great season!
 
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Oct 5, 2013 2:01 PM
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Loved it<3. Kurugaya badass kick moment there, was waiting for that one. Those 3 girls always pissed me off in the game and I'm glad she scared them shitless.

Edit: Loved the OP, but damn that ED doesn't fit for Refrain.
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Oct 5, 2013 2:02 PM

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Lol, thread wipe.

Anyway, some things that I noticed from this episode (or season), could anyone confirm this?

1. Is this the first time they show both the clock AND the time in it? I forgot the first date in LB timeline, although I doubt if they ever shown it in the anime.
2. Is it the first time they use "water drop" effect, infamous in the beginning of the VN? (preview doesn't count)

A bit OOT, not a spoiler :
 
Oct 5, 2013 2:11 PM

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Lol, thread wipe.

Anyway, some things that I noticed from this episode (or season), could anyone confirm this?

1. Is this the first time they show both the clock AND the time in it? I forgot the first date in LB timeline, although I doubt if they ever shown it in the anime.
2. Is it the first time they use "water drop" effect, infamous in the beginning of the VN? (preview doesn't count)

A bit OOT, not a spoiler :


1. they've showed the time before but never the date. They only did that since the date is important during Kurugaya's arc and is essential to the development that occurs.

2. From what I remember, i don't think that they've used the "water drop" effect before, although they should have.
 
Oct 5, 2013 2:12 PM

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the water drop effect has been used many many times in season 1.
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Oct 5, 2013 2:14 PM
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Lol, thread wipe.

Anyway, some things that I noticed from this episode (or season), could anyone confirm this?

1. Is this the first time they show both the clock AND the time in it? I forgot the first date in LB timeline, although I doubt if they ever shown it in the anime.
2. Is it the first time they use "water drop" effect, infamous in the beginning of the VN? (preview doesn't count)

A bit OOT, not a spoiler :


1. they've showed the time before but never the date. They only did that since the date is important during Kurugaya's arc and is essential to the development that occurs.

2. From what I remember, i don't think that they've used the "water drop" effect before, although they should have.


There is actually a "water drop" effect (doesn't that sound like some kind of video game's attack ?) at the beginning of the first episode from season 1. Can't remember another one.
 
Oct 5, 2013 2:15 PM

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it actually appears at the beginning of episode 1 (first season)
 
Oct 5, 2013 2:17 PM

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the water drop effect has been used many many times in season 1.


Really? I'm sure that I would have remember if they used that, but I'm probably wrong since the "water drop" effect is really important. Clearly, I need to go back and watch the 1st season for the third time.
 
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By the way, the date(13/05) is also shown in that episode. ^^
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Oct 5, 2013 2:21 PM

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it actually appears at the beginning of episode 1 (first season)

Thanks! Finally I checked the first episode of S1 again and turns out that there's a water drop but with a normal water drop sounds. I think it's the first time they use the same SFX as the VN (which kinda sounds like a booting SFX for a program/OS :D )
 
Oct 5, 2013 2:36 PM

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In the beginning of episode 25 there is a water drop sound too :o
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Oct 5, 2013 3:07 PM

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Wow! nice to see J.C. Staff upped the quality a bit. Nice first episode too.
 
Oct 5, 2013 3:16 PM

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thankgod jc staff didnt screw up refrain. can't wait for teh romance. kurugaya x riki all the way.
 
Oct 5, 2013 3:24 PM

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thankgod jc staff didnt screw up refrain. can't wait for teh romance. kurugaya x riki all the way.


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Oct 5, 2013 3:35 PM

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I feel so trolled, THOSE HANDS WEREN"T RIKI AND RINS FROM THE PV

LOL didn't expect it too. Looks like tonnes of the material in the PV was from the very first episode :o
Same goes for many of the other new animes, their PVs used a lot of the scenes from the actual first episode XD

 
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BEST GIRL?!
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Oct 5, 2013 4:25 PM

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thankgod jc staff didnt screw up refrain. can't wait for teh romance. kurugaya x riki all the way.


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That was a really good first episode. A bit surprised by the pacing, but I could see why they would do it this way.
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Oct 5, 2013 4:35 PM

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Kurugaya scared me and I kinda liked it. :3 Best girl.
 
Oct 5, 2013 4:39 PM

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FINALLY got to watch new episode.... And I'm totally blown away.

Seriously. Didn't expect it to be THAT good since the begining. Like, this one episode totally owns already most of the first season's.

Firstly Kurugaya... KURUGAYA! I played the game about two years ago, but anime version of her anger was just splendid, imo even better than the vn's scene.
The rest was just fine as well. Pancake party was short but sweet (good, in the game it only made me hungry), also I didn't expect them to include so many "flashbacks" at once, whoa. Really hoped for some love arc for Yuiko, but I guess that won't happen.

Almost forgot, opening is DAMN GOOD, I should have expected that from something used with "Boys Don't Cry" soundtrack, but in the trailer it didn't have that impact, dunno why (maybe because I hoped that Rita will sing it after all). With the whole animation it's simply wonderful. I'm ashamed a bit, but totally cried during it, like a kid T^T
Ending song on the other hand is some freaking disco though, what the hell O.o It's not bad, but, ughh, kinda didn't meet my expectations, I guess. Will admit though, Kengo in the school uniform - omnomnom <3

I don't rate anime after watching at least half of the series, but this is 10/10 material for now. I keep my fingers crossed for 26 episodes.
 
Oct 5, 2013 4:46 PM

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still cant believe it, i can watch this awesome part..... i felt the feeling... :")



 
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