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Sep 28, 2013 12:23 AM

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I liked it overall, had a nice feeling to it aswell. 7/10
 
Sep 28, 2013 12:46 AM

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That ending grantees a sequel can't wait for the sequel
 
Sep 28, 2013 2:47 AM

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Well as it pains me to admit it since i have been reading the manga lately i have been feeling that the series is coming to an actual end mainly because all the recent manga chapters all seem to lead like to a final resolution

The last half seemed like a preview episode for what is to come next and while most likely they would skip the slice of life stuff i don't think it would start again exactly with the unwound jun it will most likely start a bit backward and than go trough him

This current story arc still has not been concluded so it might take awhile but once it does i think they might adapt it for a second season despite the low sales.

Mostly because i think this current manga story arc looks like it will be the final arc i wont reveal spoilers but those who are reading it tell me don't u think that what it looks like as well?

it has been more than 11 years since the first chapter got out and sooner or later all things must come to an end even if i love this series i have to accept that i just hope it will get a proper conclusion
 
Sep 28, 2013 3:00 AM
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season 2!!
 
Sep 28, 2013 4:36 AM

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That was a nice wrap up, totally screaming of a second season.

It was nice to see both of the Jun facing their future and getting by.

It was a solid anime for me. 9/10 didn't disappoint me. I loved the Rozen Maiden series. Will read the manga soon.
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Sep 28, 2013 8:34 AM

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Even the simple painted style animation backgrounds grew on me


I loved those backgrounds since the beggining. Even though they didn't have a lot of detail, that watercolor (or wtv) effect is beautiful and contributed to focus solely in the characters. I liked them a lot :)
 
Sep 28, 2013 8:58 AM
 
Sep 28, 2013 9:54 AM

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i need a season 2
 
Sep 28, 2013 10:23 AM

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In Before Rozen Maiden (2014)


And no Zurückspulen was given this day
 
Sep 28, 2013 3:19 PM

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lol

this shows so stupid

especially adult Jun. He's so used to being a doormat and wants to be a doormat but too bad that girl had to ruin the momentum. I would have love the show much more if the manager slyly took credit for Jun's work.

4/10 otaku pandering
 
Sep 28, 2013 11:41 PM

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Always liked Rozen Maiden. With it comes excitement as well as periods of boredom for lack of a better word. Maybe better said would be expected highs and lows. I did enjoy this installment a little more than the previous ones and feel it left off with me wanting more. I do hope a new season is made at some point in the near future following this ending.

7/10
 
Sep 29, 2013 1:13 AM
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I think the DVD/blu ray sales speak for itself.

I'm a fan of the Rozen maiden anime franchise. I don't read the manga so I evaluate purely on the anime's merit. Traumend's my favourite, followed by Ouverture then the original 2004 and lastly in this 2013 show. This ranking mirrors the Rozen Maiden sales and also the ratings for the Rozen maiden series on myanimelist. I don't think that's a coincidence.
 
Sep 29, 2013 1:38 AM

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boku said:
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I disagree, my love of the original anime made me read the manga, but seems to me the authors do not what do next, seems like the plot is walking in circles, there is no sense of advancement at any level. I do not mean to say only peach-pit has this problem, plenty of other mangaka seems to do page after page that does not advance neither the plot nor the characters without being an slice of life nor a 4koma.


Just putting it out that the current arc of the manga is at is probably the last, and I have reasons to suspect so.
Heavy spoilers, even for manga readers, since the English scanslations are far behind the chapters that are already out in Japan.


well said my friend i know exactly what you mean, i haven't read the manga and even then i feel like the story is walking around in circles
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Sep 29, 2013 2:10 AM

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that was such an enjoyable show.
i like it more than the previous seasons
definitely felt like a start of a new arc it wouldnt be wrong if this show was a 2-cour

love love love love love the music both the themes and ost

i'd love the show more if they'd just leave college Jun alone; he's starting to get a good life
 
Sep 29, 2013 3:30 AM

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"It wasn't a dream, after all."

Massive reversal of fortunes for Jun and the store manager at work. Karma? Maybe. I laughed hard when he began to start kissing up to Jun's ass because it's implied that he could become the new store manager. No romantic progress for Jun and Saitou (first name still unknown) but at least they got closer as friendly colleagues at work.

Seems I was partially correct about Kirakishou not being finished yet. Testament to her incredible resiliency despite not even having a physical form. I really like how Souseiseki continues to fondly refer to adult Jun as her master. No Suigintou for the last episode? :(

Instead of wrapping things up the story moves on from an epilogue-like portion to a prologue-like sequence for a potential sequel. It's far from over, basically. I for one wouldn't mind seeing this series continue further. Not bad, Studio DEEN. It was quite enjoyable.

*sips tea*
 
Sep 29, 2013 4:10 AM

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That was nice for sure...aaa I wish it will have a second season. I mean we came across a cliffhanger!!! we need a new season :D I WANT MORE DESU!
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Sep 29, 2013 4:18 AM
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whaaaaat i didnt expect a season finale --; they skipped all the good parts with tomoe and meg --; also doesnt make sense that he questions if it could have been a dream, i mean in the manga weeks have passed before he reflects on this, but in this episode its like the next day or so... really weird. it makes adult jun look more important to the dolls than he really is. in the manga i was suspicious of him making more dolls and actually helping kirakishou... but we lost that plot depth since they rushed the finale --; looking forward to more episodes though.
 
Sep 29, 2013 5:20 AM

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I definitely enjoyed this, hoping for season 2.
 
Sep 29, 2013 7:13 AM
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Nice show. One of the better non endings I have seen lately. I gave it a 8/10, might have been higher except for the lack of desu through most of the show
 
Sep 29, 2013 11:20 AM

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So happy Unwound Jun life is getting better. I still hate his manager > ; 0

WHOA!!!!?? Kirakishou is back and has a body!!! She takes Mitsu and put Wound Jun into a comatose state? Shinku and gang ask Unwound Jun's help. That makes his 4th place that needs him. Cliffhanger : 0

Next Season Please!!!!
 
Sep 29, 2013 12:04 PM

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Hory sheet, RM Epi 13 just caught up with the manga's current arc.


This.

That second half of episode is kinda rushing if you read the Manga.
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Sep 30, 2013 5:53 AM

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Jun goes back to his normal life, but it's a whole lot better.
But then Kirakishou gains a new body, steals Mitsu, and puts Wound Jun into long-term sleep.

Jun X Saitou!!
Wound Jun X Tomoe!!

The scene with Shinku and a cat was pretty cute.

That video call scene was funny and awesome.
Jun finally meets Tomoe.
The dolls need Jun's help. And he's willing to.

I can sense a second season. I hope there is one. But for now, I'll read the manga!
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Oct 1, 2013 7:15 AM

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I hope they will continue the story otherwise I will be really upset
 
Oct 1, 2013 4:45 PM

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I really don't know how I feel about this series.

The story was much better than the first two anime series. And once I learned that so much of those first anime was original story (like Suigintou's origin story in Overture), it made me dislike the old series a lot. The animation was also stunning.

I related to Unwound Jun a lot more than Wound Jun, so this arc was really enjoyable. But all the Alice Game stuff didn't accomplish anything, and I don't even really understand the existence or meaning of Laplace no Ma or the N-field (and even the fact that there are different worlds). I can buy the Rozen Maiden being /supernatural/ dolls in that they can talk, move, feel, think, and are fighting to win the Alice Game, but adding in all the other magic mumbo jumbo just makes it all so convoluted.

The cliffhanger ending is kind of annoying too. Someone said it caught up to the current manga arc. So that means that even if we are to someday see a Rozen Maiden anime adapting it, we have to wait for more material. They should have just drawn out the episode and given a "happy end", at least temporarily.

But regardless, I did really enjoy this series, and I do hope to see more adaptions of Rozen Maiden in the future.
 
Oct 1, 2013 6:48 PM

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Someone said it caught up to the current manga arc. So that means that even if we are to someday see a Rozen Maiden anime adapting it, we have to wait for more material. They should have just drawn out the episode and given a "happy end", at least temporarily.

The last half of this episode only covered the premise of the current arc. IMO, there's enough material for at least another 13 episodes, since this arc is pretty long.
 
Oct 1, 2013 8:04 PM

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boku said:
GarLogan78 said:
Someone said it caught up to the current manga arc. So that means that even if we are to someday see a Rozen Maiden anime adapting it, we have to wait for more material. They should have just drawn out the episode and given a "happy end", at least temporarily.

The last half of this episode only covered the premise of the current arc. IMO, there's enough material for at least another 13 episodes, since this arc is pretty long.
They adapted 4 books worth in this season, then quickly did 3 books in this episode but there are 3 more books worth to do even if they do not backtrack and do some of the 3 books they skipped mostly. There is enough for another season or will be very soon if they finish the current arc first.
 
Oct 1, 2013 8:19 PM

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I was expecting more action, but it was still cool!. -kashira
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Oct 1, 2013 10:10 PM

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boku said:
GarLogan78 said:
Someone said it caught up to the current manga arc. So that means that even if we are to someday see a Rozen Maiden anime adapting it, we have to wait for more material. They should have just drawn out the episode and given a "happy end", at least temporarily.

The last half of this episode only covered the premise of the current arc. IMO, there's enough material for at least another 13 episodes, since this arc is pretty long.
They adapted 4 books worth in this season, then quickly did 3 books in this episode but there are 3 more books worth to do even if they do not backtrack and do some of the 3 books they skipped mostly. There is enough for another season or will be very soon if they finish the current arc first.


Good to know!
 
Oct 2, 2013 3:37 AM

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GarLogan78 said:
hpulley said:
boku said:
GarLogan78 said:
Someone said it caught up to the current manga arc. So that means that even if we are to someday see a Rozen Maiden anime adapting it, we have to wait for more material. They should have just drawn out the episode and given a "happy end", at least temporarily.

The last half of this episode only covered the premise of the current arc. IMO, there's enough material for at least another 13 episodes, since this arc is pretty long.
They adapted 4 books worth in this season, then quickly did 3 books in this episode but there are 3 more books worth to do even if they do not backtrack and do some of the 3 books they skipped mostly. There is enough for another season or will be very soon if they finish the current arc first.


Good to know!
AS i said earlier once the current Manga arc finishes i think they would continue the series.
 
Oct 2, 2013 10:25 AM

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It's over when it's finally getting interesting.... This whole series seems like a prologue to the real deal....

Final Episode - 3/5
Series - 6/10
 
Oct 2, 2013 10:54 AM

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Jun goes back to his normal life, but it's a whole lot better.
But then Kirakishou gains a new body, steals Mitsu, and puts Wound Jun into long-term sleep.

Jun X Saitou!!
Wound Jun X Tomoe!!

The scene with Shinku and a cat was pretty cute.

That video call scene was funny and awesome.
Jun finally meets Tomoe.
The dolls need Jun's help. And he's willing to.

I can sense a second season. I hope there is one. But for now, I'll read the manga!


I agree those are the likely pairs, but I got the feeling both Juns would chose Shinku if she wasn't a doll

also I felt bad for Kira, the way he kind of just discarded her, sure she was twisted but honestly Sugintou at her worst was about just as bad, and he didnt even reject her in a nice way, he is just like I dont need you, this to the doll that could not even get a body
 
Oct 2, 2013 3:40 PM

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Easily the best season of Rozen Maiden so far.

Classy, thought provoking as always.

DEEN did a really good job handling this series, I'll be more than happy to see them do another season or 2 if they keep this up.

7/10, 1 up from all previous season.
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Oct 2, 2013 3:45 PM

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It's over when it's finally getting interesting.... This whole series seems like a prologue to the real deal....


It is kind of funny since episode one was a recap of the entire first manga series, which served a prologue to this arc, which is like a set up for the next arc. Never ends I guess.
 
Oct 2, 2013 7:45 PM

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Pretty cool ending, though the first half went by really slowly, since it was so uneventful. . ., and wait, where's Suigintou, my favorite doll!?
, and by the end, Jun and Saito still look so much like a couple yet they haven't gotten anywhere xD

Great series, possibly one of my favorites for the season. I really hope for a second season. It's cool how Young Jun helped University Jun, and now it is about to reverse. And especially what Jun said about Kirakishou feeling the same way he did, all alone, alienated. That is something I had not realized until he said it, so maybe it will end differently next time.
So, a solid 8/10, may raise if another season comes out to finish it (similar to how I treated Hakkenden).

 
Oct 5, 2013 9:14 AM
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I watched the original Rozen Maiden around 7 years ago, but wasn't able to watch Traumend. Still, i gave this show a try and it seems like it was different from the two shows.

This one though, is much darker than the other two. I would describe it like The Grimm Brother's version due to it's dark nature though there are only a few similarities in the story compared to the old ones.

Still, great series, i really enjoyed this.

9/10.
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:42 AM

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Traumend is on Crunchyroll right now!
 
Oct 5, 2013 4:49 PM
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they should make an anime focused entirely on suigintou and megu!
 
Oct 5, 2013 6:32 PM
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This might be unrelated (or my scaredy cat-ness) but what happened to the prop doll that Kirakisho took into the N-Field? (Did not finish the rest of the episode, too nervous to finish).
 
Oct 5, 2013 11:37 PM

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I wonder if they're planning on another season after this?

That is if there's enough material from the manga.
 
Oct 6, 2013 12:24 AM

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This might be unrelated (or my scaredy cat-ness) but what happened to the prop doll that Kirakisho took into the N-Field? (Did not finish the rest of the episode, too nervous to finish).


Nothing. They did not show us anything, but it is safe to assume that Kira took it as temporary vessel.
 
Oct 6, 2013 4:31 PM

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8/10
Too bad is over, it was really good, one of my fave animes from last season. Hope there's a second season.
 
Oct 7, 2013 6:06 PM

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I have a question (a little late).

Why did Kirakishou need Jun to create a body for her out of Sousouseki's parts? Didn't she "eat" HinaIchigo so she could take her body as a vessel? Why isn't she just using HinaIchigo's body?
 
Oct 7, 2013 6:09 PM

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I have a question (a little late).

Why did Kirakishou need Jun to create a body for her out of Sousouseki's parts? Didn't she "eat" HinaIchigo so she could take her body as a vessel? Why isn't she just using HinaIchigo's body?

She wasn't satisfied with just Hina's body. She wanted all the dolls' bodies.
 
Oct 13, 2013 12:22 AM

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Well everything went fine for the old Jun, im glad.
The one who wounded the key not so much! Is there going to be a 2 season?
It has a nice season, but i feel like there is not much to take if ronzen maiden is going to continue, it will lost is power e atraction.
 
Oct 25, 2013 5:15 PM

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Quite a bit late since I somehow sort of forgot about this show.
I'm missing something serious like this in the current season.
This was a nice watch but the second season really has to explain stuff or it'll be really durpy.

7/10 for now I guess.
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Dec 15, 2013 6:45 AM

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5/5

This episode is a reassurance, but also a worm. I hope it will not take so much as this series license plate 2013! ^ _ ^
I admit again, though sad, this series deserves infinitely in all, I miss not knowing what would happen potutto after the second season of Träumend, but the new plot turned out to be so interesting to want to put a lid on and continue with the new and I hope to bring us to the end! Not a single season but must give me two more seasons! * _ *
Too bad there is not an image of the card ending without written overlay! D:

If anyone knows where to get it if he wants to pass me the link on my personal page here on MAL, I would be grateful! ;)

My final grade for now is 7/10!
 
Dec 15, 2013 7:22 AM

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You get clean end card hard copied with the limited edition blurays, well worth getting them for the show alone but the cards are a nice bonus too. Volume five out this week with more cards! Can't wait...
 
Dec 26, 2013 8:09 PM
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sorry ,I do not speak English well

Rosen was surprised would do again…

It was a drawing generally beautiful…

It was cute Kira Kisho throughout

Limited figure of Rozen Maiden came out in Japan recently.
 
Dec 30, 2013 7:01 AM
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Definitely one of the best series of 2013 :)!

I haven't read the manga nor have a watched any of the previous series but luckily that wasn't necessary anyway. I understood most of what was going on by the end.

Shinku was brilliant! Although the other dolls were equally fascinating in their own rights.

Biggest issue for me were the many questions that were left unanswered, as well as the cliffhanger that ensued.

That being said, I'd love a second season, which's future is doubtful at best. This series didn't get the attention it deserves. But one never knows. As far as I know the original series wasn't especially successful either but here we are.
 
Jan 22, 2014 12:22 AM

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Hoping for S2 of this seriously Rozen Maiden the best :)
 
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