Steins;Gate: Fuka Ryouiki no Déjà vu Episode 1 Discussion
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Finally, today i got the limited edition :D the freaking customs took over a week to inspect the package...
i Loved the movie.. the Absolute treatment :p
Comedy, Romance, Mind fuck and fanservice.. all in one package XD
btw: the ending song is gold <3
9.5/10.. there's no 0.5 in MAL so i will pump it up.
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jimbo_extreme said:This sounds pretty good, but if this is the case, that would mean that when Okabe was phasing and eventually disapeared, the past had already been one where Kurisu kissed him (because the got the message from kurisu and gave the hint to her in the present). In this case he shouldn't have disapeared in the first place because the kiss in the past is what prevents him from disapearing. The only way this could work is if he acted the whole time and purposefully phased between worlds somehow.
MOVIE EXPLANATION HERE, even if you think you understand maybe you missed something. hell, maybe i did too. tell me!
its pretty hard to understand but if you look at the scene where kurisu talks to young okabe she changes clothes mid scene. This is because at first its showing the kurisu in other world lines just talking to him. BUT in this world line in order to make it unique kurisu kisses him. Thats why her clothes change. before it shows other world lines (pink jacket). this world line its her usual clothes. To balance the world line Kurisu needed to do something unique, she kissed him.
Why did this not change worldline though? Didn't understand at first. BUT I GOT IT.
Basically after the kiss it shows okabe sitting on the street with his phone. The phone becomes clearer as he enters the steins gate world line again. Kurisu on the phone says "I will now give you an overview of operation norn" right before kurisu in real life says "what are you looking at pervert?"
In the steins gate worldline kurisu from the future had already kissed okabe from the past. THIS NEEDS to happen for okabe to stay in the world line so kurisu from the future sends okabe a message from the future about what to tell the kurisu of the present.
THIS IS why okabe tells her to forget, BUT kisses her to give her a hint that she can do somethng. Future kurisu told him how to save himself and what to tell younger kurisu.
THis is why he tells her to forget, but kisses her so that she remembers. This is what "operation norn" is for. This is also why daru's daughter says that future kurisu said younger kurisu would know what to do.
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Yep I don't really get what was happening at the end, but the part where she made a big impact on little Okarin blew me away.
The anime really setup the stage for that scene, with Okarin telling Kurisu that it wasn't his first kiss (and that it hadn't been romantic), and we learn where Hououin Kyouma came from (circular origins are always awesome).
Really amazing movie.
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naens said:From what I could gather, the kiss was important because that's what gave Okabe the courage to be there for Mayuri. The moment where Okabe tells Mayuri that she's his hostage was a very big life-changing event for the two of them, and it occurs in all the world lines. The fact that it happened in the Steins;Gate world line anchors it as the real world, I guess (?) to Okabe, giving him enough stability to remain there.
I really didn't like it. There was too much Kurisu and I don't like her and too much of that girl from the future, she's also annoying. The main character had a small role. A lot of things didn't seem to make sense: Where was Okabe gone and why? How did Kurisu find him? Why was the kiss in the end important, how could it change anything? I dont't think that the answers are in the movie, so I won't rewatch it in order to understand.
But the first half of the movie was more promising...
It's also Kurisu who apparently told Okabe about Hououin Kyouma (which would become his adopted persona later) as well as taking his first kiss (which isn't as important, but was mentioned by Okabe earlier in the series).
It's a very circular paradox that I think you'll be better off not dwelling too much on...
What I'm unsure about though, is how Kurisu went to the R world line, and what the heck was happening there.
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Thank you for all members that make a constructive discussions happen in this forum. :D
I've been read all of comments here since page 1, and try to rewind some parts of this movie too. And, one by one of my weird questions are finally revealed!
And it makes me sure that this movie is the best movie that I ever seen, with or without some mysterious questions or black holes in it! Really enjoyed it and wants to watch it again!
In my opinion, this movie has a perfect combination in scientific, romantic, epic, and dramatic aspects. ^_^
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I understand why they made the film and its an ok film, definitely not as good as either the original VN or the series. Some parts felt a bit contrived and with good reason, when you try that hard to emulate the characters and you've run out of ideas as to what they should be doing a year later, this is what you come up with, repeated lines and scenarios. But whatever, it wasn't a huge waste of time to me at least, it was good to see some of the parts that weren't in the series but were in the VN.
On another note: for the ending
anyone else think that it is entirely feasible that she could have gone back a few days or so and just had sex with him?It would leave a huge imprint in his mind and also wouldn't have as many risks as approaching him on a street as a stranger.
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Am I the only one who finds it forced and repetitive too much?
The logical and theoretical aspects here are quite incoherent aswell.
I don't want to discuss the theory, however, because some part of that is even beyond the human comprehension as for now, I guess (and there is no real science here - only fantasy speculations), but they could have done it some other way. I mean the story authors.
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