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Sep 21, 2013 10:56 AM

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Xinception said:
Wait wait wait.

So if this episode is this epic...

Then episode 25, which will be shown in theaters... will be.... BALLISTIC.


pretty much confirmed now that the anime will be stopping at the end of chapter 33, like everyone have been expecting. Then i expect a lot of added eye candy for the final episode, since it will only cover that 1 chapter :D

damm next saturday is too far away :(
 
Sep 21, 2013 10:59 AM
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I think next week will mix stuff from ch. 33 and 34. In a directorial sense the cliffhanger would be too abrupt.
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:06 AM

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dimsumftw said:
Jesus that budget.

More budget than whole Trost Arc!!

But I don't like what the anime do with Eren, to me he is trolled by the script, over and over againg.
That scene with Eren and Mikasa in it's original form from mangá is so much "character defining". Different from Mikasa, the Eren and decide something and does, he has no doubts after he decide (as we see later on in the manga).
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Sep 21, 2013 11:08 AM
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PaninaManina said:
dimsumftw said:
Jesus that budget.

More budget than whole Trost Arc!!

But I don't like what the anime do with Eren, to me he is trolled by the script, over and over againg.
That scene with Eren and Mikasa in it's original form from mangá is so much "character defining". Different from Mikasa, the Eren and decide something and does, he has no doubts after he decide (as we see later on in the manga).


Did you see any doubts there with that freaking bloodied face? It's the same idea.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:09 AM

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Pipoko said:
I think next week will mix stuff from ch. 33 and 34. In a directorial sense the cliffhanger would be too abrupt.

They better not. Ending the anime at ch.33 is by far the best thing they could possibly do now.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:13 AM

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Pipoko said:

Did you see any doubts there with that freaking bloodied face? It's the same idea.

While the whole survey corps battle is something good to see, for it to happen the anime needed bury Eren under a ton of debris and then he reflects for a half an hour until decide. In the mangá:

Misaka: "The world is a cruel place."
Eren: "Sure it is."

Then he transform.
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:14 AM
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i am having trouble finding this episode.
i would be happy if someone could PM with a link :)
 
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:15 AM
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PaninaManina said:
Pipoko said:

Did you see any doubts there with that freaking bloodied face? It's the same idea.

While the whole survey corps battle is something good to see, for it to happen the anime needed bury Eren under a ton of debris and then he reflects for a half an hour until decide. In the mangá:

Misaka: "The world is a cruel place."
Eren: "Sure it is."

Then he transform.


Seemed to me he was out cold/with very wavering concious till the final minutes. Then he comes to the same decision with added flashbacks of the dead comerades. I think it's the same idea, except a little more dramatic. It didn't feel like ruining it because the filler was action and not just focused on Eren.
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:19 AM

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Pipoko said:
I think next week will mix stuff from ch. 33 and 34. In a directorial sense the cliffhanger would be too abrupt.


it would be pretty abrupt, but i think it will suit this show fine. It wouldn't make much sense to add dialog from chapter 34 though, since the last episode will be shown in theater. I doubt they would do that, unless it's gonna be top notch action

on another note, they really nailed Misaka's character these past 2 weeks. Those eyes of hers are scary as hell :D
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:28 AM
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This anime really likes to end so many of its episodes in cliffhangers...what an intense ep
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:31 AM

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Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.

That scene with him biting his hand repeatedly was nasty lol. I was cringing when he was getting out from being trapped in the rubble.

TITAN FIGHT PART TWO NEXT EPISODE.
Kind of unbelievable that there's only one episode left though :(


Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.
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This might be a bit hard for you to believe, I know I didn't at first, but the thing is that other people actually have different opinions to your own. Crazy, right? How dare they not conform to your opinion on this show, or any other, who the hell do they think they are?
 
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:39 AM
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The whole episode was filler. Nice
2/5
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:47 AM
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Be_Careful said:
The whole episode was filler. Nice
2/5


This is what someone without any idea of this manga will say..

As manga reader, i was surprised when Eren didnt transform when Mikasa and Armin goes out, then i remembered some things..

There's a few mistakes on the own manga chapter, Eren bites his hand and when Armin and Mikasa goes out, theres no blood on his mouth, and they go out without anything to cover his identity (LIKE THEY HAVE DONE IN THIS CHAPTER, AMAZING)

The idea of adapt all this manga chapter to Anime.. Its just impossible, i mean, if they done that, they will reach the Wall chapter in THIS chapter.. cause the fight its SO fast, they know that, and thats why they decided to to this...

The fight on the manga was nothing, it was so fast, without any tension, here i feel all the strong of the original manga, but BETTER, they really know how Isayama think, i just want to read his impresions tomorrow, but IM SURE that he will LOVE this chapter, the whole idea... Show what happened to Jean disguised as Eren, or what happened to Erwin.. its just amazing, like chapter 22 with the bodies of Levi squadron

So.. For me, this chapter even EXCEED the original one... 11/10
I'm not english, i'm spanish, so sorry for my mistakes when i write D:
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:50 AM

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Intense episode! Annie is killing everyone. Mikasa is getting it in. City in panic, and everyone trying their to capture her. Then Eren transform. Shit got real. Hit Annie so hard the screen turn colors. I don't know why they always end the episode when things are about to get really real. Can't wait for the next episode. Hell might just fly to japan just to see it.
 
Sep 21, 2013 11:55 AM

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Yuki Kaji does an outstanding job as always.

Very, very interesting filler in this episode.

Eren's transformation happened somewhat differently, but I preferred it this way.

I can't wait for...


I just want it all to end happily.
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Sep 21, 2013 11:55 AM

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Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.

That scene with him biting his hand repeatedly was nasty lol. I was cringing when he was getting out from being trapped in the rubble.

TITAN FIGHT PART TWO NEXT EPISODE.
Kind of unbelievable that there's only one episode left though :(


Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.


Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:01 PM

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I'm a manga elitist and I liked the filler. I was a bit iffy on 22's, but I didn't mind it here since otherwise the episode would have been quite boring.
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:03 PM
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Amarrez said:
I'm a manga elitist and I liked the filler. I was a bit iffy on 22's, but I didn't mind it here since otherwise the episode would have been quite boring.


If you do appriciate some of the filler, Well, then you're not an elitist, are you?
 
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:05 PM

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Pipoko said:
Amarrez said:
I'm a manga elitist and I liked the filler. I was a bit iffy on 22's, but I didn't mind it here since otherwise the episode would have been quite boring.


If you do appriciate some of the filler, Well, then you're not an elitist, are you?

But I am an elitist. If someone told me the SnK anime was better than the manga I'd be hella mad, yo.
 
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11/10

and... ok... I want a second season... NOW!
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Sep 21, 2013 12:10 PM

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Amarrez said:
Pipoko said:
Amarrez said:
I'm a manga elitist and I liked the filler. I was a bit iffy on 22's, but I didn't mind it here since otherwise the episode would have been quite boring.


If you do appriciate some of the filler, Well, then you're not an elitist, are you?

But I am an elitist. If someone told me the SnK anime was better than the manga I'd be hella mad, yo.
Anime > Manga

Seriously, though. I think Annie's scene and this episode were superior to the Manga version.

I guess after watching the Anime and switching to the Manga, there's so much more suspense.

Especially when you know the true identities.

I think the only bits that were filler was how Eren turned in to a Titan, and that's not even filler.

Also, I don't remember Erwin having a gun put towards him, but that was some awesome filler.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:16 PM
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Tis' the first time in my life that a filler in the anime actually impressed me and made me yell for more o_O
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:18 PM
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Be_Careful said:

rolf. seriously dude? just read ch.32 and come tell what is filler.


I don't care if it's filler. It was pretty damn awesome. Awesome animation, awesome directing.
Hell, I bet if any manga readers hadn't read the manga, nobody would be able to tell it's filler.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:21 PM

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Mills said:
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Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.
Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.
Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.
Neither. It's ətˈæk 0N tάɪtn.
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:25 PM

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Great episode, not a fan of some sequences (like the scout leg. soldier throwing the other one) but overall i think it was handled pretty well! 4/5 is my take.

Be_Careful said:
And it's not only that the 90% of the episode is filler they also change the place of 10% canon scenes.


The first half of the episode is chapter 32 stuff and i believe a little of the 2nd half is from the manga as well. Now, can we not spam this thread with yet another discussion?
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:41 PM

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Manga elitists? There's nothing wrong with being disappointed when a scene doesn't pan out the way you expect it to.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:46 PM

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Some parts of the chapters animated are missing, others are developed and actually they make this part of the story more meaningful. Absolutely adored how it was handled, especially in regards to the Scouting Legion leaders. Manga readers are certainly familiar with the events in chapters 48 and 49 and are aware of Erwin's gift to learn quickly, set bold traps, and push things forward to his aims. Happy we had Hanji, because it's her turn soon to face alone another enemies, and (personally) I liked how she span the cord of her immobilizing cannon - in their gruesome defeat, Erwin, Hanji, Levi and the others did spend the short time in going through all the horrible events during the mission outside Wall Rose. They couldn't bring the bodies of their comrades back, but they will make the enemy pay for the loss.

Mikasa has learned a thing or two from Levi's fight with Annie. So is Annie, but she is denied an upper hand here.

Armin and, surprisingly Jean, are becoming good soldiers. Armin continues to build up offensive skills, Jean's getting less a brat.

OK, I have the Eren-titan back, but, WIT guys, you beat the shit out of him this time :)
Anyway, manga-readers know he is not the OP brainless idiot, but here, I think it's clearer that he shapes more and more as a tragic hero. Aside that, the issue with all human-titans will always bring controversies, personal and general, about what are they as humans and their fate as titans.

Loved the episode, every shot of it. Kudos for the confidence in making it spectacular and exciting!


Caps:

All about Annie Leonhardt: http://imgur.com/63T5kr0

Danchou and Heichou: http://imgur.com/bbWG5Ly

Never shown in the manga - Annie building in: http://imgur.com/gnANPTm

Nobody expect the Spanish Inquisition, a familiar face from the trial: http://imgur.com/XbI6bbU (they just love to point guns at humans, don't they)

ARMIN: http://imgur.com/DwHqeNP

Armin and Jean vs. Annie: http://imgur.com/jfSPNxa

HANJI: http://imgur.com/xul5oQC
Hanji vs. Annie: http://imgur.com/bPFza2w

Mikasa vs. Annie:

http://imgur.com/3Xah9C4
http://imgur.com/YsPkBB6
http://imgur.com/WfuUc66
http://imgur.com/ecMNR6w

Eren, before: http://imgur.com/gNjyOKT
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Eren, after, vs. Annie: http://imgur.com/LR1ESFE
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stAtic91 said:
Mills said:
Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.
Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.
Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.
Neither. It's ətˈæk 0N tάɪtn.

...It's Bauklotze. Rewatch and listen to the song playing when he tears himself off.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KqNhFzZAw Start at 1:30.
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Topic Clean Up
All off topic ranting about manga vs anime and who is or is not an elitist has been removed.

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Sep 21, 2013 12:54 PM

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Not sure if I liked what they did with Eren or not.

I liked how he thought about his comrades and mother and how he failed to protect/save them, but I did like the more personal scene in the manga, arghhhh!

Jean and Armin's teamwork was cool, and Mikasa was in trouble in the end. But of course Eren has transformed and starts to lay the smackdown.
 
Sep 21, 2013 12:56 PM
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What a diligent mod you are, Suzune-chan. :*

A pretty sweet episode, all things considered. The filler bit at the end didn't really make the episode any worse. If anything, it added to the atmosphere and felt quite in place. Nothing worth discussing much less complaining about.
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Mills said:
stAtic91 said:
Mills said:
Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.
Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.
Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.
Neither. It's ətˈæk 0N tάɪtn.

...It's Bauklotze. Rewatch and listen to the song playing when he tears himself off.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KqNhFzZAw Start at 1:30.
It's the same lyrics, but the Bauklötze track is slower. The track used in this episode was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgwC7vVn_5A
Listen to 2:20.
 
 
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stAtic91 said:
Mills said:
stAtic91 said:
Mills said:
Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.
Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.
Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.
Neither. It's ətˈæk 0N tάɪtn.

...It's Bauklotze. Rewatch and listen to the song playing when he tears himself off.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KqNhFzZAw Start at 1:30.
It's the same lyrics, but the Bauklötze track is slower. The track used in this episode was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgwC7vVn_5A
Listen to 2:20.

Oh... Hahaha whoops. My 100% was totally wrong. Deff didn't know both songs had parts with the same lyrics. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
 
Sep 21, 2013 1:15 PM
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Be_Careful said:
This guy just seemed to hate it just because it wasn't like the manga and was filler. That's dumb.


Yeah how i dare to dislike a episode who is full of filler and the little canon things in it is change time lines.
That's so dumb.
The annie transform in the anime is better than than the manga, there you go, just to not tell im manga elitists.

The fact is the fact : Manga>Anime


Opinions do exist. You like the manga better, sure that's fine, but it's not fact. Anyway, done with this now. Posts already got deleted cause of this.
 
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Mills said:
Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.

That scene with him biting his hand repeatedly was nasty lol. I was cringing when he was getting out from being trapped in the rubble.

TITAN FIGHT PART TWO NEXT EPISODE.
Kind of unbelievable that there's only one episode left though :(



Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.


Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.


Gonna rewatch it quick. I didn't mean Vogel im Kafig, I meant Attack on Titan.

EDIT: Confirmed, the track is "Attack on Titan".
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This might be a bit hard for you to believe, I know I didn't at first, but the thing is that other people actually have different opinions to your own. Crazy, right? How dare they not conform to your opinion on this show, or any other, who the hell do they think they are?
 
 
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@Pipoko Find it funny how you say opinions do exist but it doesn't seem like the other person is entitled to his/her opinion.

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Episode was kinda meh in my opinion. This series could have been done so much better had there been more actual titans and action instead of so much talking.

Keen to see what they do with the last episode.
 
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@Pipoko Find it funny how you say opinions do exist but it doesn't seem like the other person is entitled to his/her opinion.

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Episode was kinda meh in my opinion. This series could have been done so much better had there been more actual titans and action instead of so much talking.

Keen to see what they do with the last episode.


Everyone can say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean you can't call them out for being unreasonable and close-minded if you think so. I'm more bothered he's acting like it's a fact and truth.
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Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Willard_Filmore said:
Mills said:
Yuuussss they played my favorite song on the OST during the Female Titan transformation scene in the very beginning.Then Bauklotze on Eren's transformation.

That scene with him biting his hand repeatedly was nasty lol. I was cringing when he was getting out from being trapped in the rubble.

TITAN FIGHT PART TWO NEXT EPISODE.
Kind of unbelievable that there's only one episode left though :(



Actually, the version they played was Vogel im Kafig.


Nah. When Eren pulled his body off of the object that impaled him and transformed, the song was Bauklotze. I'm 100% sure.


Gonna rewatch it quick. I didn't mean Vogel im Kafig, I meant Attack on Titan.

EDIT: Confirmed, the track is "Attack on Titan".

Yea, stAtic91 cleared it up for me on the last page. When you said Vogel im Kafig I was like wut. But yeah, I was wrong. Didn't realize both songs had such similar parts. Thanks for letting me know.
 
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so this was the reason for all the stills in first cour o_O I'm amazed how they are able to add anime original content to the canon stuff and make it 10x more epic.

can't wait for finale.. or should i say cliffhanger.
 
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There were some cool animated scenes in this episode:

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/66779808786e0c8b5aa5c8b9c7c6663f.gif
http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/8aa2a6cc9ec62b0838a76b2977703b98.gif
http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/a54ad5e027e0eab1ed545b3d33a769ff.gif

well, the last one is a failure, just focus on the titan and the moving background.

Otherwise not much to say about this one. At least the filler-part wasn't bad like in the previous 2 episodes.
 
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Pipoko said:

Like, I don't agree with you at all either because the entirety of second half was gorgeous-looking action and the flashback was relatively short, but that's fine.


And that is YOUR opinion.

Btw; I should have re-phrased my first comment better. I meant in general; the anime has been dragged along too much. And half an episode with action doesn't really cut it for me.
 
 
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Pipoko said:

Like, I don't agree with you at all either because the entirety of second half was gorgeous-looking action and the flashback was relatively short, but that's fine.


And that is YOUR opinion.


Yeah. It is. I'm probably not always right either. Just sayin' what I think, for now using those gifs posted a few posts up there as basis.
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Thinking about all the 3DMG scenes, they must pull some serious Gs.

Mikasa went HAM this episode and then Eren went even more HAM at the end, he was impaled on tonnes of debris (that somehow Armin could move?) and that punch he landed was sweet.
 
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First of all there are some things that are better in the Anime and some things that are better in the Manga. But the part which is always better in the Anime is the quick path action.

To the Episode. Normally i'm someone who hates filler but there are really some things which are quite short so that i really loved the filler in Episode 22. My problem is that some filler may change the story and charakters which i find problematic. IF Hajime Isayama was the supervisor and liked the Anime this way, then it's good as it is but otherwise i see there some problems.

Just consider the scar on the hand of mikasa at the beginning in the manga.
Did isayama change his mind and thogut "peh, dont need it" and approved the change in the anime? if yes, then that's fine but if not then we have a problem. I didn't liked the course of story change with the trainee camp flashback being episode 3 and 4 and the Marco scene with Jean. The Manga was so much better in this. I'm happy they follow flashback storywise now more accurate the manga. In the first chapters we see Jean and Eren fight and Reiner saying that Eren is the strongest fighter, but we don't see this in the Anime or as the story progresses. Did Isayama change his mind? And like a said earlier, i'm not the gore and blood fan but SNK should have been more brutal just like the Manga.

To come back the the Episode 24: Why doesn't Annie just leaves? Why is Eren soooo stubborn? Why doesn't Mikasa gets crazy or sees eren being all in blood under a stone. Why can't Annie as the FT be a bit faster and see eren and his punch coming even though she stopped Jean from attacking from behind. I feel like there are some errors. Just like i felt when there was this Jean filler in Episode 13 being the leader of marco, connie and annie helping eren but don't dying and so on. There are some errors...
 
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Mehmed said:
First of all there are some things that are better in the Anime and some things that are better in the Manga. But the part which is always better in the Anime is the quick path action.

To the Episode. Normally i'm someone who hates filler but there are really some things which are quite short so that i really loved the filler in Episode 22. My problem is that some filler may change the story and charakters which i find problematic. IF Hajime Isayama was the supervisor and liked the Anime this way, then it's good as it is but otherwise i see there some problems.

Just consider the scar on the hand of mikasa at the beginning in the manga.
Did isayama change his mind and thogut "peh, dont need it" and approved the change in the anime? if yes, then that's fine but if not then we have a problem. I didn't liked the course of story change with the trainee camp flashback being episode 3 and 4 and the Marco scene with Jean. The Manga was so much better in this. I'm happy they follow flashback storywise now more accurate the manga. In the first chapters we see Jean and Eren fight and Reiner saying that Eren is the strongest fighter, but we don't see this in the Anime or as the story progresses. Did Isayama change his mind? And like a said earlier, i'm not the gore and blood fan but SNK should have been more brutal just like the Manga.

To come back the the Episode 24: Why doesn't Annie just leaves? Why is Eren soooo stubborn? Why doesn't Mikasa gets crazy or sees eren being all in blood under a stone. Why can't Annie as the FT be a bit faster and see eren and his punch coming even though she stopped Jean from attacking from behind. I feel like there are some errors. Just like i felt when there was this Jean filler in Episode 13 being the leader of marco, connie and annie helping eren but don't dying and so on. There are some errors...

Yeah I thought about this too, was a little strange. But I suppose seeing as it never happened in the Manga...
 
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Dat animation o.0
Dat budget o.0
Dat cliffhanger o.0
 
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Mehmed said:
First of all there are some things that are better in the Anime and some things that are better in the Manga. But the part which is always better in the Anime is the quick path action.

To the Episode. Normally i'm someone who hates filler but there are really some things which are quite short so that i really loved the filler in Episode 22. My problem is that some filler may change the story and charakters which i find problematic. IF Hajime Isayama was the supervisor and liked the Anime this way, then it's good as it is but otherwise i see there some problems.

Just consider the scar on the hand of mikasa at the beginning in the manga.
Did isayama change his mind and thogut "peh, dont need it" and approved the change in the anime? if yes, then that's fine but if not then we have a problem. I didn't liked the course of story change with the trainee camp flashback being episode 3 and 4 and the Marco scene with Jean. The Manga was so much better in this. I'm happy they follow flashback storywise now more accurate the manga. In the first chapters we see Jean and Eren fight and Reiner saying that Eren is the strongest fighter, but we don't see this in the Anime or as the story progresses. Did Isayama change his mind? And like a said earlier, i'm not the gore and blood fan but SNK should have been more brutal just like the Manga.

To come back the the Episode 24: Why doesn't Annie just leaves? Why is Eren soooo stubborn? Why doesn't Mikasa gets crazy or sees eren being all in blood under a stone. Why can't Annie as the FT be a bit faster and see eren and his punch coming even though she stopped Jean from attacking from behind. I feel like there are some errors. Just like i felt when there was this Jean filler in Episode 13 being the leader of marco, connie and annie helping eren but don't dying and so on. There are some errors...

Yeah I thought about this too, was a little strange. But I suppose seeing as it never happened in the Manga...


Wow, didn't think of that. Hmm.. maybe the anime wants to show that she has matured to some degree. Alternitively,
 
 
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Pipoko said:

Wow, didn't think of that. Hmm.. maybe the anime wants to show that she has matured to some degree. Alternitively,


Trust me, she didn't change that much as we can see in the 4x Chapters in the Manga.
And i don't really think she will. Eren is everything for her. Her whole family.
For me it seems she sees eren as a mix of everything.
Little/Big Brother, Father, Son, Lover, etc.
 
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Mehmed said:
Pipoko said:

Wow, didn't think of that. Hmm.. maybe the anime wants to show that she has matured to some degree. Alternitively,


Trust me, she didn't change that much as we can see in the 4x Chapters in the Manga.
And i don't really think she will. Eren is everything for her. Her whole family.
For me it seems she sees eren as a mix of everything.
Little/Big Brother, Father, Son, Lover, etc.


I don't think it shows that she changed extremely or anything - remember back at Trost when she saluted the mother and the little girl? She's always been a responsible soldier as well. It's just not much of a strong characteristic. Then again, Eren was hurt a lot. Yeah, seems like anime screwed up a little here, I guess? Maybe it's just personal preference again because Eren's been all that Mikasa has been focusing on in the latest chapters of manga and it's getting kinda obnoxious.
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While you guys fight over each others opinion, I am here to say that I am sold!

This has been the best episode even for filler materials. WIT, please don't disappoint with the final and promise us a sequel, okay?!

I loved it how Mikasa has turned out to be the best female shounen anime protagonist ever. Everything she does is so damn amazing. Too bad Levi is injured, otherwise would have loved to see him in action. Erwin and Armin are the two brains of the anime. And Hanji appearing with her sadistic mode was fantastically done. Nice to see Jean getting more screen time. I think after Levi and Erwin, he is my third favourite male character in the anime. And then the insanity with insane action scenes.

17/5 for the episode and no matter how they end the season now, this gets nod from me to be acknowledged as a masterpiece in all forms of entertainment!
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