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Sep 7, 2013 7:32 PM
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This 9gag post
http://9gag.com/gag/axNVG7K

Made me think about that. Who is really starting flame wars and all?

At first place: Let's have a peaceful discussion. I will show my point of view.

Lets begin.

Argument 1 - Two sides

I would like to limit this thread to Christianity and Atheism, as involving more religion would make this a true religion battlefield, but let's just say Theism vs Atheism. An organized religion is simply a group of people that share the same belief and will group for discussing, having that on mind, you could even call atheism a religion, but nonetheless, atheism is still made of people, just like theism religions, which means you can't say atheism people are better than theism people, and vice versa

Argument 2 - Different people

If you, atheist, think you are part of the large group of people that are respectable, cool, open-minded and that will always use logic as main feature for finding the truth, you are WRONG, because "you're "group" of people are just as pretentious, preachy, closed minded, and elitist as any religious group.
Atheists are not enlightened, they're mostly just bitter." (Guy on the 9gag comments). So, basically, this reinforces the argument 1. The same would apply to religious people.

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Having those two things on mind, we can have a much better discussion, that if those atheists don't start insulting everyone here, and theists get baited by them and start discussing aswell.
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Sep 7, 2013 7:38 PM
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Que another religious flame war.

OT: Both sides have their "fanatics" trying to shove their beliefs down each others throats, but I think must people just don't really give 2 fucks
Sep 7, 2013 7:40 PM
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Look at a mirror, you'll see who starts the flame wars.
Sep 7, 2013 7:41 PM
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Ugh.. 9gag...
Sep 7, 2013 7:47 PM
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SetsukoHara said:
Look at a mirror, you'll see who starts the flame wars.
Sep 7, 2013 7:49 PM
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Both are stupid.

Stupid religious are close-minded and intolerant people who think atheists are evil people, that their religion is superior and that any person who doesn't believe in their God is wrong.

On the other hand, stupid atheists think they're smarter and superior than religious people and that religions are bad for society.

And btw I mean "stupid" people.
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Sep 7, 2013 7:50 PM
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Starchaser187 said:
SetsukoHara said:
Look at a mirror, you'll see who starts the flame wars.


Maybe if we all quote this he'll fucking get it.
Sep 7, 2013 7:51 PM
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Starchaser187 said:
SetsukoHara said:
Look at a mirror, you'll see who starts the flame wars.
Sep 7, 2013 7:54 PM
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You linked to 9gag. ._.


Anyways, I'm not really sure what you are asking to discuss. That said, I can't see whatever you linked to on this network.

However, 1. I DON'T WANT RELIGION VS ATHEISM THREADS. STOP IT.
2. Not all atheists are annoying and obnoxious and think themselves enlightened and higher then others. Just as well, not all theists are people who give up their intelligence and constantly try to convert people.
Sep 7, 2013 8:27 PM
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>9gag
"There is no more effective method of concealment than the broadest publicity."
"naw just be like "in facist america burger is you comrade""
"if maps are hard, suicide is impossible"
Sep 7, 2013 8:58 PM

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People making short assumptions and hasty generalization bias is the main cause of any flamewars on the internet.
The most important things in life is the people that you care about
Sep 7, 2013 11:49 PM

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Captain-Hawkeye said:
>9gag



Sep 7, 2013 11:55 PM

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Lol.
Sep 7, 2013 11:57 PM

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C'mon Lupadim. Stop going back to the default troll topic of Religion.

Come up with something new bro.
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Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing
Sep 7, 2013 11:57 PM

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I thought you said if you started another religion discussion you were going to be banned again.

Im a Devil's advocate. Its just too fun.
Running on borrowed time.

Sep 8, 2013 12:01 AM

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This isn't a good idea to start these as even if some can discuss this calmly,someone will come in and defend their view irrationally.
Why do you suck at life? Because you let life suck at you. Words to live by courtesy of Ask a Ninja.
Sep 8, 2013 12:02 AM

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Both are obnoxious dicks.
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Sep 8, 2013 12:03 AM

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WanderingRabbit said:
This isn't a good idea to start these as even if some can discuss this calmly,someone will come in and defend their view irrationally.


hey dumbass, that's exactly what he wants.
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mattbenz99 said:
Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing
Sep 8, 2013 12:04 AM

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Stop caring about things.
Sep 8, 2013 12:09 AM

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lupadim said:

If you, atheist, think you are part of the large group of people that are respectable, cool, open-minded and that will always use logic as main feature for finding the truth, you are WRONG, because "you're "group" of people are just as pretentious, preachy, closed minded, and elitist as any religious group.


The irony is compelling.
Sep 8, 2013 12:16 AM

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Koryo-chan said:
WanderingRabbit said:
This isn't a good idea to start these as even if some can discuss this calmly,someone will come in and defend their view irrationally.


hey dumbass, that's exactly what he wants.


I was trying to get people to quit fueling the fire....I see you missed that.
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Sep 8, 2013 12:18 AM

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WanderingRabbit said:
Koryo-chan said:
WanderingRabbit said:
This isn't a good idea to start these as even if some can discuss this calmly,someone will come in and defend their view irrationally.


hey dumbass, that's exactly what he wants.


I was trying to get people to quit fueling the fire....I see you missed that.


I didn't miss it, i was just telling you that it was futile, while calling you a dumbass in the process.
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mattbenz99 said:
Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing
Sep 8, 2013 12:47 AM

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you are
look in a mirror
Sep 8, 2013 12:49 AM

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renders said:
you are
look in a mirror

Shut up. This has been mentioned.
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mattbenz99 said:
Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing
Sep 8, 2013 12:53 AM

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elevenletters said:
Koryo-chan said:
renders said:
you are
look in a mirror

Shut up. This has been mentioned.

Ignore him; he's Romanian.


Ewwww
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elevenletters said:
Koryo-chan said:
renders said:
you are
look in a mirror

Shut up. This has been mentioned.

Ignore him; he's Romanian.

You made me smile.

Have a cookie.
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elevenletters said:
Koryo-chan said:
renders said:
you are
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Shut up. This has been mentioned.

Ignore him; he's Romanian.

reported for racism
Sep 8, 2013 1:21 AM

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renders said:
elevenletters said:

Ignore him; he's Romanian.

reported for racism


You silly
Sep 8, 2013 1:57 AM

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As always, we have lupadim trolling yet again -.-
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Sep 8, 2013 2:27 AM

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Jaguer_R said:
Both are stupid.

Stupid religious are close-minded and intolerant people who think atheists are evil people, that their religion is superior and that any person who doesn't believe in their God is wrong.

On the other hand, stupid atheists think they're smarter and superior than religious people and that religions are bad for society.

And btw I mean "stupid" people.


I like this one. Voted!
Sep 8, 2013 2:52 AM

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Nice try, lupadim.
Sep 8, 2013 5:11 AM

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I didn't expect dat answers.
I am proud of MAL.

Ok, if you people don't want to discuss, let the thread die. I failed.
Sep 8, 2013 6:25 AM
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Even in a clear and neutral environment, there will always be those that want to use violence to solve and express their point.
Sep 8, 2013 1:52 PM

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lupadim said:
I didn't expect dat answers.
I am proud of MAL.

Ok, if you people don't want to discuss, let the thread die. I failed.


So, you, Lupadim, from what I can gather, are viewed as a notorious troll, are religious, and wish to discuss religion.

Very well.

Then answer this to the best of your ability.

What is it you wish to discuss specifically, and what are your arguments?
Sep 8, 2013 4:36 PM

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Isn't it people, not the beliefs themselves, that cause arguments and flame wars?
Sep 8, 2013 4:39 PM
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Crab People.
Everyone in the community is shit taste.
Sep 8, 2013 5:03 PM

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probably someone who doesn't believe in either.
Sep 8, 2013 5:11 PM

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Sep 8, 2013 5:15 PM

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Loved how the default was Christians vs. Atheists--leaving out Muslims, Buddhists, Pagans, Wiccans, Shinto, Daoists, Animists, Jews, Agnostics .......

I always used to tell the campus evangelists with their pseudo-surveys that I was a panentheist and after about 15 minutes of having to listen to me explain just what that is--they would invariably give up. You see their objective wasn't to gain knowledge--it was to convert me.

These sorts of discussions are pretty much the same. Considering the source, it is either an attempt at conversion, or a chance to reinforce your own belief system at the expense of others. Of course if an atheist started this thread, it would probably be pretty much the same motivation.

Us pagans just think you get the god, or the void, you deserve. We'll see you in the summerland...

(and of course when I said "us pagans" I did not intend to claim to speak for any other members of the pagan community who may have an entirely different set of beliefs on this subject...)
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Sep 13, 2013 2:08 AM

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Religion is to blame on this, they're the ones who adds fuel to the fire.
and says, "only those who join our religion can enter the kingdom."
Thus, making it worse. = A=;

I'm a believer of God, but some religions should srsly stop bashing atheists
and atheists should also stop picking holes on religious beliefs.
what happened to the freedom of choice. they're butting on everything, even politics.

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rivaillereiss said:
Religion is to blame on this, they're the ones who adds fuel to the fire.
and says, "only those who join our religion can enter the kingdom."
Thus, making it worse. = A=;

I'm a believer of God, but some religions should srsly stop bashing atheists.
what happened to the freedom of choice. they're butting on everything, even politics.


...Are you a Buddhist?

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Sep 13, 2013 3:06 AM

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The op does. The mirror is behind you.
Sep 13, 2013 3:12 AM

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Jauregui said:
Ugh.. 9gag...

^
Sep 13, 2013 4:02 AM

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Poorfag-chan said:
rivaillereiss said:
Religion is to blame on this, they're the ones who adds fuel to the fire.
and says, "only those who join our religion can enter the kingdom."
Thus, making it worse. = A=;

I'm a believer of God, but some religions should srsly stop bashing atheists.
what happened to the freedom of choice. they're butting on everything, even politics.


...Are you a Buddhist?

Toyosatomimi no Miko pls


Do I sound like a Buddhist? :o
Toyosatomimi no Miko, huh. haha!
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rivaillereiss said:
Religion is to blame on this, they're the ones who adds fuel to the fire.
and says, "only those who join our religion can enter the kingdom."
Thus, making it worse. = A=;

I'm a believer of God, but some religions should srsly stop bashing atheists.
what happened to the freedom of choice. they're butting on everything, even politics.

The religious bash atheism and butt into things sometimes, and the atheists bash the religious sometimes too. Trust me, I've seen it throughout the internet.
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Battlechili1 said:
rivaillereiss said:
Religion is to blame on this, they're the ones who adds fuel to the fire.
and says, "only those who join our religion can enter the kingdom."
Thus, making it worse. = A=;

I'm a believer of God, but some religions should srsly stop bashing atheists.
what happened to the freedom of choice. they're butting on everything, even politics.

The religious bash atheism and butt into things sometimes, and the atheists bash the religious sometimes too. Trust me, I've seen it throughout the internet.


oh, I forgot to add that as well, same goes for the atheists. lol. thanks for this!
Sep 13, 2013 5:25 AM
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Both sides. I believe people should be less sensitive and also not force their views on others, and most importantly, not make a big deal out of it.
Sep 13, 2013 8:40 AM

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I'm catholic, but that doesn't mean I have to convert people to my own religion. I believe in certain things, other people might believe in other things. I'm fine with that.

Just... don't try to wreck the things I believe in and I will respect you.
Sep 14, 2013 8:03 AM

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The people starting the flame war are people who love to fuck around with people so they post

Religion r is gay



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Both groups have their dicks. The dicks in both groups give said groups a bad name. I'm getting tired of these threads.

I'm Southern Baptist, if you're curious. Don't ask me to believe in that primordial soup crap, and we're cool. I like to link God to string theory... so I think out of the box.
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