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Aug 26, 2013 12:28 PM
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LOL, Tomoko and those faces :3 did she find herself an admirer there at the beginning?

Eh, the delusions were pretty typical I guess. Fan service spotted with Yui along with those delusional faces. End card looked nice also I guess.

End Card: http://i.imgur.com/bjMsuOz.jpg
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Kii-chan, the cousin, is Kugimiya-san? ... @ wanting to look bitchy. Vaccuum... Meeting that guy from the rain! lol @ "Momoko". Oh my god at Kii-chan's actions (including what she read). She changed for a while, though. Oh, so Tomoko is a card player? Shugo Chara reference for the egg?? lol @ cute.
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Aug 26, 2013 4:11 PM
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The voice actress for Kii-chan is Rie Kugimiya (釘宮理恵). She is originally from
the southern-most part of the four main islands of Japan, the island of Kyushu.
Specifically, she is from Kumamoto City (熊本市). People there speak a much
different kind of Japanese than people in Tokyo.

When Kii-chan is speaking, does she have a different accent?

I have no idea. I cannot distinguish different Japanese accents or dialects. So for
example, I can't recognize when a character is speaking with a Kansai accent.

Probably many of you can notice the difference.

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The word b*tch is use quite a lot during this episode. The English word "b*tch"
is almost always always a noun. It can sometimes be a verb, such as "to b*tch"
or "he is b*tching". See Urban Dictionary for details.

However, the Japanese word "bicchi" (ビッチ) that is used by Tomoko has a
different range of meanings. It is a mistake simply to assume that it is the same
as the similar-sounding English word.

In Japanese, ビッチ has the usual range of meanings as the English word "b*tch".
For example, ビッチ can mean "a female dog". It can also be an offensive word
directed towards a woman.

In addition, however, ビッチ can be an adjective. It can means things such as:

unpleasant
uncomfortable
offensive
objectionable
instrusive
obtrusive
pushy

When Tomoko was buying those new clothes, she was clearly using ビッチ to
describe them. In other words, she was using ビッチ as an adjective.

I don't know for a fact, but I could somehow imagine that high school girls in
Japan in 2013 might want to wear clothing that had some kind of "pushy" or
"offensive" look. After all, fashions come and go.

Here are the sources of my information:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%81
http://translate.google.com/#ja/en/
http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%81
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Aug 26, 2013 4:14 PM
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Poor Kii-chan , she learned the truth about her ''cool'' onee-chan. Sth like that must have happened with Tomoki too... that's why he's so cold towards her now even though he used to adore her. (but he still loves her, she is his sis afterall)

I think Tomoko needs to grow up.
she is super immature right now xD that's the reason she is doing all these stupid things
she will be just fine as soon as she starts being a university student or working ... not necessarily popular (because she is not very social) but at least she'll understand that she doesn't need to be popular. all she needs is true friends.

Aug 26, 2013 10:58 PM
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As usual, this show never disappoints. Her cousin addressing Tomoko's "boyfriend" and the MTG bit were my highlights.
Aug 26, 2013 11:12 PM
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Damn Tomoko, don't you yell "shut up" and raise your fist towards your own mom like that.

That moment when Kii-chan was confronting that guy and Tomoko was thinking she'd die...I got all sweaty from all the second-hand nervousness and embarrassment.
Go ***k yourself.

Polite as usual,
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Aug 26, 2013 11:18 PM
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Poor girl. She tried so hard to impress her little cousin.

At least she talked to the guy... kind of. That's a slight improvement.
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Aug 26, 2013 11:28 PM
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Tomoko's cousin is cute. Funny how she tries to give herself a hickey lol.
Aug 26, 2013 11:52 PM
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I'll give Tomoko-chan credit for doing the full apology and being truthful to the boy. Of course then she spoiled it by using the spring-loaded card sharp mechanism to defeat an elementary schooler. But really, I hope she catches a break and gets a boyfriend before she graduates--I actually find her to be sort of cute (in a weird otaku way).
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Aug 27, 2013 12:08 AM

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Gosh, Kii-chan is adorable.
I totally cringed when Kii-chan confronted the boy about Tomoko..
-sigh- Poor Tomoko.
Aug 27, 2013 12:14 AM

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Tomoko got pitied by Kii-chan lol

Her life is just Sad XD
Aug 27, 2013 12:41 AM

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Great change of pace.
Tomoko had so much human interaction this episode.
Im surprised she's 'friends' with so many kids, even if they're kids its not that bad.
Aug 27, 2013 12:55 AM

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Kii-chan had those Higurashi eyes. Tomoko pulling on the toliet paper was hilarious.
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Aug 27, 2013 12:55 AM
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It's really painful to watch her do those kind of things, doesn't she get tired of embarassing herself every damn time thinking it will work?
Aug 27, 2013 12:59 AM
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Oh my god, Kii-chan is way too cute.
Funny episode, as usual. I feel sorry for Tomoko, even a kid is more mature than her. :(



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Aug 27, 2013 1:19 AM

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Tomoko was being pitied by kii-chan, i just couldn't help but laugh as her image of her was slowly being taken away.
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Krissirk said:
Kii-chan had those Higurashi eyes.


Agreed. I was just Googling Higurashi to see exactly what you meant.

But I think that the anime adaptation did not correctly design Kii-chan's eyes.
Kii-chan was drawn very well in the manga. Keep in mind exactly who Kii-chan
is and what she is thinking about Tomoko.

See Volume 2 Chapter 14 Page 2 of the manga:

http://mangafox.me/manga/watashi_ga_motenai_no_wa_dou_kangaete_mo_omaera_ga_warui/v02/c014/2.html

I think it might have been too difficult for them to convert that black-and-white
manga character design into an anime character. In any case, I really enjoyed
the episode. The anime did quite a number of good things with Kii-chan which
were original and not in the manga.
Aug 27, 2013 1:44 AM
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The vacuum cleaner hickeys bit was hilarious.

She at least talked to another guy today. Is there painstakingly slow progress?
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Aug 27, 2013 1:54 AM

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I was kind of hoping that there would be a change in her personality but i guess not much. CHEATING TO A KID LMAO. Kii is such a good kid.

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Aug 27, 2013 2:30 AM

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Wow. Tomoko makes me want to cry. This episode was very cringe-worthy especially with the vacuum, the whole boyfriend thing and cheating at a card game for kids. I laughed every time she said bitch and when she called Yuu. It's really messed up to have your younger cousin pity you. Kii-chan is adorable.
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Aug 27, 2013 2:34 AM

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I already read it in the manga but still...

The lies are unbearable. ( •_•)

This is me while watching the whole thing
http://youtu.be/2rn-lqkE58I
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I thought she was gonna die from that vacuum cleaner. Will people die if stucking a vacuum cleaner hose in one's mouth. I am too scare to try these at home
Nyan-nyan100 said:
It's really painful to watch her do those kind of things, doesn't she get tired of embarassing herself every damn time thinking it will work?
Well, she is trying her very best.Unfortunately, it back fire .
I suggest she stay at home and play games whole day just like me xD
Aug 27, 2013 2:54 AM
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okanagan said:

When Kii-chan is speaking, does she have a different accent?

Here are the sources of my information:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%81
http://translate.google.com/#ja/en/
http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%81


Wherever they are form, Japanese can speak hyojungo or standard Japanese.
Especially she is a professional voice actress. She don't show her dialect in anime.

I recommend you do not use uncyclopedia as a source. Their articles have a lot of jokes and humor and nonsense.They are interesting but it may be difficult for non-native Japanese speaker to know the truth from their articles.
Aug 27, 2013 3:19 AM
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I heard some rumor about Kitta Izumi and now I done some research on it.
I found that she is a "Card Queen" .Similar to Tomoko but Tomoko cheated LOL
http://ameblo.jp/kittaizumi/entry-11559013204.html
Aug 27, 2013 3:26 AM

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Oh my god the lies were so bad which made me feel so embarrassed for Tomoko. xD The vaccuum cleaner scene was hilarious. How can you get it stuck in your mouth? LOL! Tomoko was able to talk to Kosaka who happens to be the guy that left the umbrella for her a few episodes back. It's a shame she had to lie her cousin Kii about her having a boyfriend and all. Kii became expressionless and pretty much gave the death stare at Tomoko. xD Kii even realised she cheated in the card game haha. I feel so sorry for Tomoko, she's so 'uncool'. D: Overall, hilarious episode and great embarrassing moments.
5/5
Aug 27, 2013 3:33 AM

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She is trying to be a b*itch to impress Kii-chan, Tomoko you rock...XD XD XD She looks quite nice in thoseclothes. Haha, she was leaving kiss marks. Tomoko, I feel so bad for her.... She accidently into her mouth and my heart nearly died there.. She got lectured by her mother and then slapped... I don't know whether I should laugh or not.
I am so glad that finally she knows he left the umbrella for her... I support her with, like every guy! Just give her happiness, this poor girl needs attention... In the end, he is dating another person or something. He had not fault this time though... She was saved thanks to being known as 'Momoko'. Poor Kii, Tomoko was her idol and now she is a yangire, interesting indeed.. She cheated like a boss there xD At least she has Kii... Waiting for New Year's day episode (if there is going to one) coz I want to see Kii again.
Aug 27, 2013 3:35 AM
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Oh damn, that was painful to watch. Even I, as a viewer, felt embarrassed during some of the scenes. Poor...Momoko. ._.
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Aug 27, 2013 3:51 AM

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LOL Hilarious XD
5/5
Aug 27, 2013 4:20 AM

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It was really hard to watch the part where she lied about going out with the guy and then Kii-chan found out.
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Aug 27, 2013 4:23 AM

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Kii-chan is so Kawaii >.< and if only Tomoko change her child like attitude she will be fine and pretty normal but thats what makes her prett hilarious LOOL nice ep xD
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Aug 27, 2013 4:31 AM

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What a godly cheating technique :D
Aug 27, 2013 4:43 AM

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Hahaha, that Dyson moment.
Aug 27, 2013 5:13 AM
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Don't lie and don't brag or it will backfire. These are life lessons courtesy of Tomoko...
Aug 27, 2013 5:26 AM

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Adorable Kii-chan!!! Dammit Tomoko, why did you have to lie? :(
Aug 27, 2013 6:11 AM

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i feel bad for kii-chan
Aug 27, 2013 6:13 AM

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Momoko-chan? Momoko-chan? Momoko-chan?

Oh Tomoko.
It's incredible what happens here.
Aug 27, 2013 7:06 AM

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MTG tournament! I wasn't expecting this to be here :D
I just hope there would be some sort of happy ending for Tomoko, the way she is now is way too sad.
Aug 27, 2013 7:12 AM

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Just give me more vigin , Watashi ga like girls and the world would be awesome. Kill those high school whores she wanted to become in ep 8 >..>

NICE EP XD
Aug 27, 2013 7:21 AM

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LOL! Was waiting for Tomoko to shout 'FINAL TURN!'

Too bad that didn't happen.
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Aug 27, 2013 7:35 AM

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that pseudo yuri at the end:P
And situation in which she bowed for a boy was like horse position XD
Aug 27, 2013 8:15 AM

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I love Tomoko even though she always embarrass herself. She is just so cuuuute! Hoping for her to have a boyfried :3
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Oh man pity meter pinging high
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Aug 27, 2013 8:24 AM

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As painful to watch as any others, nonetheless I feel she actually deserved it after making lie after lie, it was only a matter of time before the gambit fell...which it did.

I felt kind of bored at the end but maybe that's because I expected it to be more heartbreaking, all that bits with the golden egg and the loli faces made it more humorous and less heartbreaking than I wanted it to be; then again I like my despair Puella Magi style with no hope whatsoever so...

My favorite part was the beginning with her delusions and the vacuum cleaner part made me laugh so hard; only she can have those ideas, heheheh. It's kinda nice that her mom finally called her out on her stupidity, someone needs to tell her she's doing it wrong before she commits a really serious mistake she can't get out of (becoming a waitress-something and wanting to be raped comes to mind...)

Also, those things didn't look at all like hickies or whatever its they're called, more like wild animal bites, I kinda expected them to stay all the episode but maybe she wouldn't have been able to make the boy scenes otherwise?

Her "bitch" outfit was pretty standard, not at all appealing but guess I got used to watching her in more lazy style sporty wear. I've seen much worse in my neighborhood, heheh.

I wanted Yuu to appear but it seems we'll be getting less and less of her as the finale approaches. It was great to watch Umbrella boy but at the same time I wish he hadn't seen Tomoko again, I was getting my hopes high when she finally learned about the umbrella and they started talking only for it to plummet to the ground when her cousin appeared and she was in that...awkward position.

BTW in Japan are all apologies made like that?!?!?



EDIT: Also to add the Card bit made me laugh so much, the Queen, LOL! I actually believe something like that would make her quite popular, she only needs to understand that she's way better playing in the otaku and underground community. Here in my country we have gamers and card communities where even adults and college students play Yu Gi Oh and Magic the Gathering among other things. If she went there she would instantly be swarmed because its nonetheless much rarer to find a girl interested in that stuff in those groups. She doesn't seem to enjoy otaku and nerd company though so not sure how that would work...
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I haven't enjoyed a single episode of Watamote yet but this one was really painful to watch, almost as embarassing as the manga version. But that's how the series has to be...
Props to the anime staff, they've made a pretty good manga to anime-adaption up to this point.
Aug 27, 2013 8:50 AM

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This show is really painfully to watch ..hope this have a good ending or good improvement about tomoko
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I don't know if I should feel bad for regognising this card right away.





Edit: god dammit, I haven't posted in such a long time, how do I make pics work again?
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Faust91x said:

BTW in Japan are all apologies made like that?!?!?
The most common was the 90 degree bow.
Tbh, her bowing style is kinda scary. It remind me of Sadako(Ring) crawling out from the television .

Sedinus said:
I don't know if I should feel bad for regognising this card right away.





Edit: god dammit, I haven't posted in such a long time, how do I make pics work again?

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This episode showed that when you lie and cheat, it comes back to haunt you. Now instead of Kii-chan seeing Tomoko as a cool cousin, she sees her as someone who needs help. The part when Kii-chan was talking to that boy kind of got to me, since I lie some times and I would hate when people try to get involved in stuff that I lie about. But to think that she would have to cheat in a card game against a kid xD, but I understand where she's coming though.

I'm really enjoying this show, it kind of makes me sad knowing there's only 4 episodes left =(
Aug 27, 2013 9:22 AM

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She's beyond hopeless.
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Haha so funny and cringe worthy good ep

Seriously this is getting to parody status.

Too bad about the guy, I was waiting for him to pop up again - oh well no more further development related to him I guess being a love interest ha.
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