Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? this^ |
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Red_Keys said: The title of this thread is misleading. I thought it was going to be about how in yaoi, all of the male characters are inexplicably gay. Like, being a heterosexual is not even a thing. They're all just gay. No conflicts revolving around the struggles of being a homosexual. No drama resulting from social alienation. No development or self growth along themes of being honest with yourself and accepting who you are. Nope, it's all just "we're all gay LOL". Making the stories boring and uninteresting, as well as shattering your suspension of disbelief. And to make it worse, half the time, the sex isn't even good. A show about nothing but fan-service that has shitty fan-service. Oh, but OP is just bitching about fan art. Sigh... Give us your life story about being gay bisexual. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Red_Keys said: The title of this thread is misleading. I thought it was going to be about how in yaoi, all of the male characters are inexplicably gay. Like, being a heterosexual is not even a thing. They're all just gay. No conflicts revolving around the struggles of being a homosexual. No drama resulting from social alienation. No development or self growth along themes of being honest with yourself and accepting who you are. Nope, it's all just "we're all gay LOL". Making the stories boring and uninteresting, as well as shattering your suspension of disbelief. And to make it worse, half the time, the sex isn't even good. A show about nothing but fan-service that has shitty fan-service. Oh, but OP is just bitching about fan art. Sigh... Both complaints are legit, imo. The latter being definitely less legit than the first one, tbh. There's no point in bitching about fans drawing/writing existing characters the way they want to, 'cause that's what fan art is made for (even though it can get pretty retarted at times; I mean ET MadaraxSakura shippers? What the hell.). We aren't entitled whatever fan-content fans produce, as they do it for themselves and not for us. Gay pairings featuring a character shouldn't affect your appreciation of said character, in any way. However, misrepresentation and/or unrealistic portrayal of LGBT people in anime (and pretty much every other story telling medium) is a legitimate complaint and might lead to a way more interesting discussion than a 3452764th thread about how yaoi fangirls are uncontrollable & weird. |
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| Umm OP... this is literally like asking why all the women in a lesbian porno are lesbians... |
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| Thats like asking why there's so much sex in Hentai. |
| It's Yaoi. I'm pretty sure the guys are supposed to be gay. In all seriousness, I personally don't get the shipping but if they enjoy doing it then go right ahead. |
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moeanao said: ... why does it matter if the pairings we ship are gay? If the pairings were straight nobody here would complain at all. I think rather than getting upset with the fact that we like shipping people of the same gender, we should be bothered by the two individuals we are shipping. The pairings we ship will not be liked by everyone, whether it's gay, lesbian or straight. Personally I don't really ship two guys together simply because I love yaoi and I like two hot guys getting it on. I ship them because I think they would make a nice couple based on their relationship. I feel slightly insulted. And I do ship straight pairings as well. I just don't get how people can ship pairings without any hint of romance between, in many cases the whole anime doesn't have a hint of romance and most certainly not a hint of BL. The majority of those shippings involve guy x guy shippings but it would also bother me if people started shipping gay or lesbian characters in heterosexual pairings, but that's not gonna happen very often, unlike the opposite. I find it 'offensive' to the creator to ignore anything he's poured into a manga/anime/character and just change the genre to 'implied romance' and the characters sexuality to being gay. Why not just appreciate the show for what it is (which in most cases is not romance and nto BL) and focus your BL shippingsd on characters who are actually gay? It's not like it really annoys me anymore, I'll just never understand it. |
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| What bugs me the msot about yaoi is the shitty stories, is like your average shoujo shit but with gays on it |
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| You are wrong OP, you can find Yaoi as easy as you can find Yuri in the series. You can find Nami x Robin way easier than Luffy x Zoro actually, as well as you can find Aladdin x (insert the name of any girl in Magi here) way easier than Aladdin x Alibaba. |
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| So basically, the answer to this thread is either "That's the purpose of yaoi, dipshit," or "This is just gay hating. If we shipped a striaght pairing, you wouldn't care!" I say, if two men can shake hands with each other comfortably, they're obviously gay. |
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| Better question: Why is there so much rape & stockholm syndrome in yaoi? |
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Shiratori99 said: "Don't touch me!" 10 second of nipple fondling later "Touch me!" Why is it so hard to find a good shounen-ai/yaoi anime where the main character isn't getting raped?Better question: Why is there so much rape & stockholm syndrome in yaoi? |
| There is actually a relatively small handful of series which I would consider to be true Yaoi. In many cases, the characters are simply placed in BL type situations. If you count the number of series where the characters are actually homo-sexual, I think you'll find a much smaller pool to examine, then is what is often classified as Yaoi. |
Heredity said: animeoppai said: It's probably because the people who write yaoi probably can't think of any way to actually get the guys fucking in the first place. So... Laziness?Shiratori99 said: "Don't touch me!" 10 second of nipple fondling later "Touch me!" Why is it so hard to find a good shounen-ai/yaoi anime where the main character isn't getting raped?Better question: Why is there so much rape & stockholm syndrome in yaoi? It's because Yaoi is a fetish and the target audience seems to connect that fetish with a rape fetish. Probably the same fujoshi who enjoy Diabolik Lovers. Men get pregnant in Yaoi too, because the target audience apparently likes it. They don't care about realism. So I wouldn't say laziness, I'd say marketing, lol. |
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Heredity said: They can adapt hundreds of actual good yaoi manga but nooo, let's make everyone rape each other.animeoppai said: It's probably because the people who write yaoi probably can't think of any way to actually get the guys fucking in the first place. So... Laziness?Shiratori99 said: "Don't touch me!" 10 second of nipple fondling later "Touch me!" Why is it so hard to find a good shounen-ai/yaoi anime where the main character isn't getting raped?Better question: Why is there so much rape & stockholm syndrome in yaoi? |
TheGrandSage23 said: Naruto Shippuden is just an orgy of Naruto and Sasuke moments.. Most of the flashbacks do nothing but shove more of their boy love down our throats call me crazy but i've seen all of naruto and shippuden and have largely been of the opinion that sasuke is simply MIA throughout most the series thus far not so sure of the flashbacks you are talking about, would need episode references i guess? but i've always thought their relationship is far more antagonistic. are their hints of b/l? maybe. but not enough for me to call a sweeping b/l edit: i see you named shippuden specifically, but i think my argument, or observation, is largely correct. just my op. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Men get pregnant in Yaoi too, because the target audience apparently likes it. Wut? In which yaoi? :o |
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| Wow I haven't been on here in a while. So much hate for my question Perhaps I should reiterate for everyone. I have NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE SHIPPING, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. Jeez. What I was asking is why make a character gay when they're either clearly not or there was no hint to it what so ever. Again, I have no issue with it, I'm just curious as to why in the first place Also this is nothing like asking why hentai is all about sex because I didn't freaking say why does yaoi have yaoi, that would be retarded. I'm asking where the mentality even comes from, specially since it seems to be straight girls that are into it. Not to mention that often yaoi doesn't remotely represent a legitimate relationship As someone else said it's mostly about rape and stockholm syndrom which many of the LGBT community have said that they dislike, because being gay becomes only about sex and not a real relationship beyond it (I know not all of them do, but for the most part it's dominant) I feel like everyone does the whole "so who's the girl in the relationship"? when it comes to yaoi. Especially if the bottom is the one getting pregnant. I feel like it's less about suspending disbelief and more about putting straight physiology into a gay realm and I would understand why many gay people would find this upsetting. I know also there are probably already gay people on here who completely disagree, but like I said before, it's the mentality that every "hot" guy in anime and manga is gay, no matter what. Yaoi loving girls even fighting others on the point, instead of letting everyone have their fantasy, it's just yaoi dominated and I'm just a bit confused by it. Does my inquiry make sense now? Or does anyone need more clarification? I had no idea people would be so damn offended and shit. I also loved the point someone brought up about how these places where yaoi happens, straight people just flat out don't exist and rarely do women. Like it's its own world or universe so far from reality. Men usually exist in shows that are about Yuri, at least from what I've seen and bi sometimes exists. But when it comes to yaoi, nope, penis for penis everywhere, nothing else exists. |
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Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? Sex is life, bitches. |
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mayukachan said: It's called a broken thread. You can go to the next page by manually changing the url. When this happens you just report the thread as broken and a mod will fix it.Yo is it just me or is the last post gone...I see post 120# every time I click this. |
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Eckilsax said: Kalypze said: He's complaining about yaoi fangirls pairing characters from anime that have no yaoi at all, not actual yaoi anime or manga. He listed some examples. Kuroko no Basket would be another example. Well the title is very misleading then. I see what he's saying now, he's talking about fictional yaoi pairings. Who really gives a shit? Stop talking to so many yaoi-fangirls then. I agree. |
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| Because some people find yaoi hot and thus holy doly freaking love shipping gay couples, especially if the guys happen to be attractive (which they often are). Case closed! |
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| Wow.... why is every girl in a yuri show a lesbian?? [b]BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO WATCH IT THAT WAY[b] |
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Milk_is_Special said: But that's not really true...Wow.... why is every girl in a yuri show a lesbian?? |
Eearu said: But it isn't true that every guy in yaoi shows is gay, so I just went with his point of view, and said the complete opposite..Milk_is_Special said: But that's not really true...Wow.... why is every girl in a yuri show a lesbian?? |
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Comic_Sans said: but they also state why don't yuri fans do the same (typically) but yaoi fans do, so no not reallyBecause some people find yaoi hot and thus holy doly freaking love shipping gay couples, especially if the guys happen to be attractive (which they often are). Case closed! |
| This mind numbing thread didn't need to get bumped. OP is a crybaby complaining about what people draw in their spare time. Get a life. Also, LOL at the "I have nothing against gay couples but I really can't stand gay couples" comments. Cognitive dissonance man, y'all need some self awareness. |
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| Yeah, that always baffled me too. The main couple is homosexual, sure, but then why is everyone else homosexual too? Yuri doesn't do this, or at least not nearly as often anyway. |
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Killaclown said: Comic_Sans said: but they also state why don't yuri fans do the same (typically) but yaoi fans do, so no not reallyBecause some people find yaoi hot and thus holy doly freaking love shipping gay couples, especially if the guys happen to be attractive (which they often are). Case closed! O parfaited said: It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Eearu said: Milk_is_Special said: But that's not really true...Wow.... why is every girl in a yuri show a lesbian??  It applies for some shows, of course. Just like how "all guys in yaoi are gay" only applies for some shows We have yaoi that have straight pairs like Love Stage!! (the mom and dad). I can give even better examples but I doubt most guys would have read them >.> |
Comic_Sans said: lol well I guess its true that women are better multi-taskers than :pKillaclown said: but they also state why don't yuri fans do the same (typically) but yaoi fans do, so no not really O parfaited said: It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. |
Shiratori99 said: Okay, creepy. In these I believe: Animal X, Garden, Sex Pistols, Kudan no Kuroneko. It's a rarity, most likely in Supernatural types with Time Traveling, Dystopia and stuff like that.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Men get pregnant in Yaoi too, because the target audience apparently likes it. Wut? In which yaoi? :o |
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Nicoreos said: because they do umad bro *shrugs* Mal threads :P |
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mayukachan said: Yeah, that picture is a cherry picked and thus a bad one at that, Sakura Trick is nothing like the general yuri work that has recognition (read obscure works don't count). Perhaps it could even be considered to some degree, a type of deconstruction of Yuri?Eearu said: But that's not really true... It applies for some shows, of course. Just like how "all guys in yaoi are gay" only applies for some shows We have yaoi that have straight pairs like Love Stage!! (the mom and dad). I can give even better examples but I doubt most guys would have read them >.> Not going to bother reading OP since his premise seems to be wrong already |
| Usually in most of the yaoi mangas there's a lot of gay guys everywhere, yes, quite unrealistic, but who the fuck cares? In real life that definitely doesn't happen, why us people who enjoy BL can't have excessive gayness in a book or anime? People's just too annoying, mind your own damn business. |
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