| @Eearu: I'm not cherry picking. I'm using that as an example to say that some shoujo-ai/yuri also apply to the trope OP is talking about. In the end, not all homosexual anime/manga follow this trope. |
| Anyone want some Bara (aka the superior yaoi) pics? ;) |
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| The problem with yaoi, and the reason for the overflow of fujoshi into non BL shows, is the idiotic seme/uke dynamics. Many fujoshi dislike those cookie cutters and would rather read a romance between two men who are also good and unique characters in their own right, and because so little yaoi has that, for there to be BL pairings that actually feel worth rooting for, fujoshi end up looking in non BL shows. Maybe it's different in Japan, but as a fujoshi I don't want to read a manga about a seme and a uke, I want to read a manga about two men who happen to be gay for each other, and have an interesting and unique dynamic. It's very hard to find that in actual yaoi shows. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is No 6. I'd much rather watch Tiger & Bunny, Hikaru no Go, Tsuritama, ect ect ect then Junjou Romantica. As a fujoshi, I imagine the reason I got into yaoi in the first place, was because two hot guys is logically and mathematically hotter than one hot guy. So simple, right? But even if in the end I like it for such a simple reason as that, I also care for my ships themselves, and would feel no interest if it was two characters I didn't know/care about making out. If I disliked their potential romantic dynamic, fanart with them together would make me recoil. There's no way I can root for something with a boring or impossible to spin as romantic dynamic. The attractive part of yaoi should be the relationship between the two men, more then the before described hotness formula. Er, I'm not going into the Mpreg stuff. That's kinda disgusting and I don't get it. As for the 'everyone is gay' thing, I think it's because when fujoshi buy shows advertised to be yaoi, they paid for yaoi and they're watching for yaoi, so yaoi is what they want to get. Some fujoshi dislike being caught off guard by a straight ship in a gay show, because that's not what they're watching it for. Sometimes it gets boring, for the author and audience, to focus on one pairing if the pairing doesn't have a strong dynamic, so they need to switch between pairings to keep their interest. Also, fujoshi end up after a while becoming predisposed to search for potential BL in interactions between male characters, and tend to latch on to what they see. So if the author is already a fujoshi and starts seeing hints between two of her side characters, she'll probably want to expand on that relationship now that she's seen it. Maybe. |
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| they're not real so it doesn't matter |
Kezone said: The problem with yaoi, and the reason for the overflow of fujoshi into non BL shows, is the idiotic seme/uke dynamics. Many fujoshi dislike those cookie cutters and would rather read a romance between two men who are also good and unique characters in their own right, and because so little yaoi has that, for there to be BL pairings that actually feel worth rooting for, fujoshi end up looking in non BL shows. (...) This is the best and most accurate post in this thread. Also, a case where I like the extra side pairs is in Honto Yajuu. They were actually appropriate to add in the two extra pairings and it didn't ruin the main pairing's screen time. To be honest, at times I find myself wishing Free! or Ookiku Furikabutte were actually shounen-ai because their male x male relationships are so well written and planned out and not so formulaic (unlike something like Junjou//Sekaiichi where's it's always a tsun uke x manly seme). It would be interesting to have more BL anime that are less "yeah i love you" "no stop!!" *rapes* |
ichii_1 said: Share.Anyone want some Bara (aka the superior yaoi) pics? ;) |
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Sloth_ said: No, pls.ichii_1 said: Share.Anyone want some Bara (aka the superior yaoi) pics? ;) |
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rothrock said: Don't fight it.Sloth_ said: No, pls.Share. |
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Sloth_ said: +1 for Sloth_rothrock said: Don't fight it.No, pls. |
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Sloth_ said: ichii_1 said: Share.Anyone want some Bara (aka the superior yaoi) pics? ;) On second thought it's so hard to find SFW bara pics :( |
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| If fujoshis wanna ship dudes from anime that has nothing to do with Yaoi, let them. I really don't see what the big deal is. So many of the shows coming out have at least some harem or ecchi elements, and probably at least half the guy population of MAL watches hentai, so what the fuck is the big deal letting girls fantasize over guys? We do the same thing (go take a look at all the doujin in fakku.net or something), so why critisize the other gender for it? If anything, in an industry where a lot of things pander to the male audience, I think its great that women can still get something out of those shows. You make think its annoying to hear girls ship straight anime guys, and even if it is, girls who like anime have to deal with us talking about stuff like how bouncy the boobs in Highschool of the Dead are, so just deal with it. |
| this is one of the worst threads to necro |
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| hm why does "dementia" manga have gross stuff in it? hmm wonder why maybe its bc their target audience is ppl who wants to see inhumane stuff! |
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