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Aug 13, 2013 7:03 AM

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DateYutaka said:
its not that good

its has
1 a decetly Stacked cast
2 Kanno
Yes, Date-chan, you dont like Cowboy Bebop. You see everything from a business perspective. We get it.
Aug 13, 2013 7:09 AM
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SteampunkDalek said:
DateYutaka said:
its not that good

its has
1 a decetly Stacked cast
2 Kanno
Yes, Date-chan, you dont like Cowboy Bebop. You see everything from a business perspective. We get it.


Actually, what does Kanno means anyway?
Aug 14, 2013 2:37 PM

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As far as i am concerned Cowboy Bebop has splendid soundtracks and fantastic characters. The story is comic but withal dramatic...and the final...OH MY GOD THE FINAL!!!
Aug 14, 2013 2:45 PM
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worldeditor11 said:
SteampunkDalek said:
DateYutaka said:
its not that good

its has
1 a decetly Stacked cast
2 Kanno
Yes, Date-chan, you dont like Cowboy Bebop. You see everything from a business perspective. We get it.


Actually, what does Kanno means anyway?

as is Yoko
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Aug 14, 2013 2:52 PM

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MajinSaga said:
You're not at that age to appreciate dialogue, humor, etc. at a more mature level yet op. You'll get there someday though. You probably still like shitty movies like project x or tv shows like jersey shore over Pulp Fiction & Breaking Bad. You have a shit taste. It's alright though. Every idiot teen goes through the absolute shittiest of tastes.


^29 10/10's (That's like half of everything you've watched.)

Pretty sure you have no room to talk. OR you do MASSIVE amounts of research to only watch shows that you will find to be godlike in nature.

That said OT, I personally haven't finished the show yet so maybe I don't have the best opinion of it overall, but yeah started it 2 years ago and couldn't bring myself to continue yet. That should say something about it. As is I don't see why so many like it, but I think around an equal number are like me and just meh. Those that REALLY like it talk about it and I think that's what it is. Because I've seen plenty of people who have dropped it or rated it low.
*Cringey anime weeb stuff*
Aug 14, 2013 3:13 PM

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I'm not a fan of episodic animes. Cowboy Bebop could have great characters, art, and music but if it doesn't have a great continuous story it falls short of what I look for in an anime. You can watch a couple episodes in the beginning and skip ahead to the last couple episodes and watch the ending and you miss little to nothing. Perhaps that is the brilliance of it? It aired on tv and no one got lost on the story cause they did't need to watch every episode. I spent my youth watching trigun, rurouni kenshin, and yu yu hakusho on tv(liked it better than dbz). I found those more entertaining.

If you don't agree remember this is just my opinion.
Aug 14, 2013 3:19 PM
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It had an amazing soundtrack and very good characters. Although, personally, I think it's slightly overrated
Aug 15, 2013 7:41 PM

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Cowboy Bebop is kind of like a finely-aged wine. You really have to know what it is you're tasting to appreciate it.

Everyone is going to have a different opinion on Cowboy Bebop. Some will understand the messages, content and humor this anime portrays; some won't. Some people will appreciate the 'classic' art style of the anime; some won't. Some will connect with the characters; some won't. It is down to personal preference when rating any anime, really. You're going to have those people who like it for nostalgic reasons, those who dislike it's episodic nature, some who like it's all-star cast and some that will dissect it piece-by-piece and hate everything about it (for one reason or another) because that is what they like to do.

All that aside, Cowboy Bebop is one hell of an anime. My absolute favorite. The theme, art, setting, characters, cast.. everything. But what really makes Cowboy Bebop for me is the lasting impression it had on me and the way it made me feel whilst watching. It is a beautiful story filled with action, comedy, drama, betrayal, true love, acceptance, life, death and an overall sense of badassery. I respond well to the main protagonist, Spike Spiegel, and feel a pretty tight bond between his character and my own personal life, which also helped me appreciate Cowboy Bebop on a completely different level.

Overall, it is an amazing anime that I think everyone should revisit at some point in their life. It's not for everyone, but for those who do take to it.. Cowboy Bebop is one of those experiences you will never forget. Bang.
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Aug 18, 2013 10:50 AM

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I decided to rewatch it after so many years, and it really... doesn't hold up as well as I remember. Maybe my tastes have simply changed. But the episodic nature makes it hard to want to watch more than one episode in a sitting, and really the only episodes I find myself excited by are the few Vicious is in. Oh well. Still an 8/10.
Dec 9, 2013 5:20 PM
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I find it overrated. I didn't say bad--I'd rate it 8/10. I just don't find it all-time greatest level.

In fact I enjoyed Samurai Champloo more--both are good though. One thing for example, is that this isn't rewatchable like 10/10 animes are.
Dec 9, 2013 5:22 PM

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qb_cakes said:
Fma isn't legendary either.


neither is madoka magica imo

all are great in their own aspects (bebop, madoka, and fma) but not everyone thinks they are the best thing ever
Jun 3, 2014 10:27 PM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all over you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously
Well you're implying Cowboy Bebop is better than those anime so why should they take you seriously?
Jun 5, 2014 7:55 PM

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Excellent directing and storytelling, characters loads of chemistry, mixing all sorts of genres and cultures without it feeling forced, the episodic nature is great at developing the characters great dub, animation that's still better than many shows today, godly OST, great action scenes, amazing finale, etc.

Even the main villain is only in about 5 episodes and manages to be more entertaining and impressive than many big bads who get 10x the amount of screentime, imo.

But basically what most others said, it's the perfect blend of style and substance and it has something for everyone to enjoy. It's a damn good example of showing what anime is capable of
Jun 8, 2014 6:16 AM

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Well, it's good, but not so good like most people think imo. First time i watch i get interested with the story setting in the first few episodes, but it's been plain for the next episodes as i watch more. They mostly just do the same things, and not like life threatening and dramatic actions, and not really funny for comedy. I mean, mostly they hunt for minor villain bounties. The last 2 episodes were well done though. Overall 7 imo.
Jun 8, 2014 3:08 PM
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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all over you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously


This isn't IMDb where they give you a +1 for stalking one person's ratings to find a 'flaw' (AKA, a rating I don't agree with), just to tell those people's credibility is all lost because of subjectivity.
Jun 8, 2014 6:19 PM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
From the person who gave Afro Samurai an 8 and gave Baccano! a 6. I rest my case
Seems you didn't get my point. Kinda sad.
Jun 8, 2014 6:30 PM

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Quality is directly related to enjoyment. And that doesn't really matter, you don't have to defend me to him. He's someone who's willing to write off someone's whole opinion based on what anime they've watched and liked. He wasn't worth talking to in the beginning, I just tried to see if he could understand that it can be done the exact opposite and that it's useless, but he didn't see that.
Jun 9, 2014 9:58 AM
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Jody32 said:
OMG, I thought someone who's favourite movie was "The Good, the bad and the Ugly" would be more intelligent than a 5 year old
Do yourself a favour stop critiquing other people's lists and pull your head out of its groove 40 centimenters up your arse. If you don't want to do that, push your head further up your arse so I don't see your face anymore.


Sorry, pedo. It's too funny


Wait... you rated Attack on Titan a 4??!? All your credibility is lost.
Jun 9, 2014 9:59 AM
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Jody32 said:
SpikeJet2736 said:


Sorry, pedo. It's too funny

It's funny how I can have a long drawn out conversation about Boku no Pico amongst a group of friends at my university campus about its artistic merit, but whenever I start talking about it on the internet, pedophilia accusations ensue. Geez.


Don't worry, I like it too.
Jun 9, 2014 10:07 AM

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Some people can't appreciate the masterpiece that is Boku no Pico
SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously
And I used to wonder why people would make their lists private...
Jun 9, 2014 10:19 AM
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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously

right you fai l
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jun 9, 2014 10:21 AM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously

right you fai l
You tell'm!

OnT: People have different opinions and shit ya know.
Jun 9, 2014 10:30 AM
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Slyr3do0n said:
FGAU1912 said:

right you fai l
You tell'm!

OnT: People have different opinions and shit ya know.


i give bebop bad ratings because my system
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jun 9, 2014 10:39 AM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously


Says the guy who has Trigun in his favorites.
Jun 12, 2014 12:20 AM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously


Right, i don't even have those anime on my list :)
Jun 25, 2014 5:02 AM
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Bloodania said:


Wait... you rated Attack on Titan a 4??!? All your credibility is lost.


Well at least I don't watch kiddy porn.


Neither do I. I liked BnP for artistic expression. And when something is animated it isn't as big harm as if it is in live action.
Sep 12, 2014 6:31 PM

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SpikeJet2736 said:
To every person on this forum who has says Bebop is overrated or bad or whatever. I've looked through your anime list to and just about all of you have rated shows like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach etc higher than Bebop. Why should I at all take you people seriously


Right, i don't even have those anime on my list :)


No, you instead like Blue Exorcist
Sep 13, 2014 3:54 PM

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Dat OST. That's why.
"Let Justice Be Done!"

My Theme
Fight again, fight again for justice!
Oct 13, 2014 6:51 AM

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CowboySam said:
jejehartadi said:


Right, i don't even have those anime on my list :)


No, you instead like Blue Exorcist


Haha, just kidding, I have those on my manga list. Nah anyway, I thought I told you to calm down in another thread cause someone have their own favorite anime. So please stop bashing other people based on their favorite anime.
Anyway.. after this it will be pretty long. I have some spare time so I'll go with my opinions.

It's my policy to rate anime based on personal enjoyment and I would only give score '6 until 10'. Anime that has many comedy usually got on 6-8, and serious ones usually can got 9-10.

Ok, I like many genre, shounen, seinen, drama, romance, comedy, whatever, but only special ones that can I give 9 or 10. Ok, let's compare. I don't have problems with episodic episode, and I give GITS:SAC a 9. Whereas I give Bebop a 7. Bebop got praised because of animation, interesting style, and godlike OST, (if someone said storyline i think it's a bit wrong).

Well then. I never based my rating based on OST, so godlike OST won't affect me. Tension I got from watching and the story of the series is what most important. For me, Bebop appeals me in the first eps, but lost its charm on the way. Cause particularly it's just throwing some random events that feels like it doesn't important. Only a few with serious conflicts and suddenly closed with superb 2 final episodes without any signs before it. We got a rocker truck driver, mushrooms episode, 'mysterious creature(ep 11?)', and a cowboy riding a horse etc episodes which imo useless episodes. And it feels no tension coz the comedy isn't really funny imo and only a few conflicts and episodes of story which I can care of. Even when you got interesting characters, when u put them in an uninteresting story, u got nothing. What Bebop lacks is also a decent criminals. Many criminals(not all) just like rookies and uninteresting. They could've done like in Bebop movie which the criminal is worthy opponent. That's my opinion on giving Bebop 7, where the movie is 8 (almost reaching 9 actually).

Well, about GITS, they have more complex story and more serious atmosphere which I like. The laughing man was 10/10, complex story, the government conspiracy, detective stuff, etc. While I admit Bebop character is more likeable, GITS story is more appealing 'for me'.

Liking shounen doesn't mean someone is a sh*t. Ok, finished defending myself. Now it's time to defend shounen. Shounen is targeted to young audiences, but it also have values. Like one piece, even though it seems stupid, it's entertaining. And One piece have some social issues, like discrimination, dictatorship, war, etc.

Ok, hope u will not be so harsh on shounen, cause everyone have their own likings. Pls stop bashing people becuase he/she like shonen. (like u did to tsudecimo in the newest thread)
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Overrated.


Yes, listen to the person who loves Naruto


Whatever I said before about Bebop, if it is ur No. 1 anime then it will stay as it is. Maybe I'm the one who couldn't look at its charm.

Got tired of typing.. Anyway, every show has its flaws, even it may not appear in someone's eyes. Even if my 10s favorite anime also got critics. Pls give critic to the anime, not the person.
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Feb 2, 2015 3:08 PM

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I never understood this myself. I started it expecting a masterpiece, but instead I got a series that was pretty good. It had a few excellent episodes, but there were also quite a few mediocre ones. It was very influential in certain ways (it has a nice feel to it, the opening is very unique and awesome, it had one of the first good English dubs) and it is a very memorable anime in certain aspects. But I still do believe that it is pretty overrated.
Feb 28, 2015 3:36 AM

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I just love all the three main characters (Ed is alright, but I wish she wasnt in this anime, since this anime doesnt need a comedy character).

I like how the characters take things serious.

One of my problems with the anime Trign was the personality of Vash. He tries to be Goku in how he is the BA of the anime but also the over the top comedy character of the anime. I just didnt like that. Only Goku can pull that off.

However, I will say this about Bebop. Since it is an episodic anime, I was really shocked to see it as #20 here on MAL. Maybe its because of nostalgia and the gateway to anime for many fans in the US.

Sadly, in this shounen driven age, with tons of cliche characters.... many fans just dont appreciate a great anime like Bebop
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Because bebop isn't some cheap shonen, or some ecchi drama. Its like a slice of life yet while set in a suprisingly relatable future
Its got amazing music, great characters and the voices are excellent. Its not a show that tries to be the best but ends up getting it because of its carefree yet serious tones.
I've been here way too long...
Feb 28, 2015 3:43 AM

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It's awesome okay even from a very contemporary preceptive. (watched it for the first time almost a year ago and still thought it was amazing)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Feb 28, 2015 3:48 AM

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We fans who like Bebop just have to accept the fact that generic shounen with generic characters is what the majority of anime fans want today. So they will never see the greatness of Bebop.

Sad, but true.
Feb 28, 2015 4:37 AM

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We fans who like Bebop just have to accept the fact that generic shounen with generic characters is what the majority of anime fans want today. So they will never see the greatness of Bebop.

Sad, but true.

Most of the anime that are above it in this site's ranking don't even fit that.
Apr 29, 2015 8:47 PM
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Admittedly, I haven't finished Bebop yet. But I had no desire to continue watching after the first episode and had to push myself to watch the next three. This is the only time this has happened since I started watching anime seven years ago. I'm not particularly drawn in by the setting, don't feel like the characters are all that well-written(again only a couple of episodes in, but I don't feel like ANY character building has been done as yet), and I really dislike episodic storylines when there's no bigger plot.

The things I most often hear praised are
1. Characters
2. Music
3. Setting
4. Ending

1.The characters, as I said before, don't seem to have any personality they've displayed so far. They're generic and just doing what they're expected to do.

2.If I wanted to listen to music I wouldn't be watching an anime. I'd be listening to music.

3. The setting isn't inherently bad, but people have talked about it like it's one of the best settings ever. I understand this is a very subjective belief, and maybe the whole 'space outlaw/cowboy' thing was new in 1998, but it's been done a couple hundred times since then (not strictly in anime) and done better.

4. Ending I clearly cannot comment on. I'll update when I finish.

When watching Bebop the thought consistently occurs to me that Bebop is like classical fiction. Supposedly some of the best books ever written are the ones high schools force students to read. As a self-proclaimed book-lover with 500+ books on my Goodreads ranging from Pride and Prejudice (4/5) to A Game of Thrones (5/5), I find that these 'classics' are some of the worst things I've ever had to read.

The moment someone tells me that there's not really a plot in a book or tv show I find myself tuning out. Sure, make a statement with your story. Give me characters that represent ideas and are round and charismatic. But when you tell me that 'Their Eyes Were Watching God' and 'Of Mice and Men' are the pinnacle of English literature I'm gonna have to say that we probably won't get along. When watching Cowboy Bebop, I have the same feelings as I did while reading those two books. Even if I haven't seen character development, that's what people tell me makes it good. Only, that's not really enough to warrant being 'the best'.

That being said, I've been told that with Bebop you have to get to episode five for it to get good. As a rule, I'd pretty much never give a show five episodes to hook me, but I feel somehow obligated to finish this after so many people have told me it's the 'best anime ever' or 'the reason I watch anime'.
Apr 29, 2015 9:09 PM

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It's classic and unforgettable. Definitely one of the most mature anime out there.
May 10, 2015 3:24 PM
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I think it's great even by today's standards. If you view it in regards to when it came out, I think it's fair to see why it deserves to be in the discussion.

Of course anime is always open to subjective opinion. It isn't impossible for some to just plain hate it for whatever reason. But could anyone really say Cowboy Bebop is terrible or the worst?

If you were to make a list of your personal favorite 10-15 anime and even go the extra step to exclude films and OVA from that list, I think for most people it would warrant consideration.

Like others have mentioned, hype has a lot to do with it. That could ruin any anime for someone.
May 22, 2015 5:55 PM

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Finished the TV series last February and the Movie right now.

it is a great TV series, but people really overrate it too much. Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex did it better with its similar Stand Alone(Bounty) and Complex(Main Story) episodes.

Not to mention i remember the plot stop around Episode 5 and didn't picked up around 17 episode+.

Probably because it's their first Anime or gateway to the Anime world. Once you break down

I do love the Character Designs though. I do wish they used a similar one in a new TV show or something.

Oh well will watch the extra things like commentary and that extra episode from Japan only(Atsume Blues).
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This thread is gold.
Apr 10, 2016 3:06 PM

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I don't get it either, I'm currently struggling to finish it...
I loved Samurai Champloo, so the episodic thing is not what is bothering really.
But Cowboy Bebop lacks substance, it's boring.

I guess that high rating isn't objective because nostalgia.
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the music, the beautiful animation in 90s, the storyboard, the way they perform one perfect story in one 24mins ep without useless actions and delay.
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