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Aug 2, 2013 6:40 PM

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And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.
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Aug 2, 2013 6:48 PM

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The pacing for this is going well- as it follows the manga's pacing (minus the investigations).
If it continues to go along this pace, they will fit everything in nicely- I just wish that there was more time for investigations and little episode snippets where they have a full 'normal day.
I loved the animation in Owadera's punishment- this is what sells the show for me (the animation).

Also when the Super bookworm revealed to everyone she was the Super murderer- I have to say that her tounge freaks me out- I mean who the hell's tongue extends that long e_e
But still, I mourn for my Fujisaki, I mourn for you my lovely trap :c
Aug 2, 2013 7:00 PM

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Ohwada was a bro RIP. Feel bad for Ishimaru. The only way you could really guess that Ohwada was the killer wasn't even by the clues, but by the fact that they focused a bit on him in the previous episode. It definitely came out of nowhere to me, which is kinda cool as a viewer, but it'd probably be a bit more annoying if I was playing the game. Let's see what happens next.
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Aug 2, 2013 7:02 PM

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silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.


Don't judge the game by the anime. I'm serious.
Aug 2, 2013 7:11 PM

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He became a butter? Dafuq >_>

Yep. Nagi solves everything like he is so smart just cuz he is the MC! Seems legit.

Well I guess it will just keep going on just like this.

I wonder who's that 16th student...
Aug 2, 2013 7:14 PM

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"Fujisaki Chihiro was a crossdresser!"

Brutally facepalmed myself at that line. It was pretty clear already because he sounded like a guy trying to do a girl's voice to begin with.


IRK, told that one in the last topic but people still want to argue about something obvious.

Personally i wasn't expecting a real Genocider Syo, so the thing will be more crazy now with the 16th student?
Aug 2, 2013 7:15 PM

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Well done trial in one episode. Loved Genocider Syo, as I always do :) I really wish that they could've drawn out the relationship between mondo and ishimaru more so that his death would have been more emotional.
I'm sure no one could have predicted he was the killer. His only blunder was stating that he knew the color of the tracksuit.
His execution was recycled, but no complaints. Nothing was censored since the execution was just torturous electrocution into butter. Although, it was cruel how Monokuma ended up eating that butter with pancakes.
Next murder is gonna get super complicated and super crazy and i'm looking forward to seeing everyone's reactions to it. :)
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Aug 2, 2013 7:17 PM

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Litrydow said:
silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.


Don't judge the game by the anime. I'm serious.

Fucking this. This is a rushed adaptation. There was A LOT more evidence and plot twists that were thrown in the trial, but of course the creators don't have that many episodes to work with.
The in-game trial is 1.5x better than seen on the anime. If you've got beef with the game, play it yourself BEFORE you start criticizing it. *snaps in a z formation*
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Aug 2, 2013 7:41 PM
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This was a great episode. But I kinda wish they made it so the viewers can try to guess who it is. Instead of making it nearly impossible.
Aug 2, 2013 7:47 PM

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I really am enjoying this anime 5/5

Aug 2, 2013 7:55 PM

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The biker punk's death was cool!!!
Aug 2, 2013 8:13 PM

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I didn't really get Mondo's Execution , can someone explain it to me? :/
Aug 2, 2013 8:22 PM
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Fucking this. This is a rushed adaptation.


Pretty much this. I'm not very impressed by the pacing so far...
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Aug 2, 2013 8:25 PM

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wakka9ca said:
Meg-nyan said:

Fucking this. This is a rushed adaptation.


Pretty much this. I'm not very impressed by the pacing so far...

What do you expect when they only have 13 episodes to work with?
Aug 2, 2013 8:26 PM

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Meg-nyan said:
Litrydow said:
silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.


Don't judge the game by the anime. I'm serious.

Fucking this. This is a rushed adaptation. There was A LOT more evidence and plot twists that were thrown in the trial, but of course the creators don't have that many episodes to work with.
The in-game trial is 1.5x better than seen on the anime. If you've got beef with the game, play it yourself BEFORE you start criticizing it. *snaps in a z formation*

I said nothing about the game's quality. If the game does a similar thing with no clues that help you actually figure out who did it, then I suppose this problem would transfer to the game as well, but I prefer not to criticize something I haven't played. We are in the anime discussion forums. I'm treating this anime as completely separate thing from a game that i'll probably never actually play, and my complaints are with the anime alone. (besides, guessing who did it as the player of the game would be impossible if it did this. I'd love to know what clues from the second trial they omitted in the anime that would be crucial to solving the case though.)
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Aug 2, 2013 8:30 PM

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I just love Monokuma. He makes the peddo looks like a kindergartner.
His laughs are hilarious.
Aug 2, 2013 8:47 PM

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I JUST KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE A 16TH SUPER DUPER HIGH SCHOOLER!
The literature girl's split personality was pretty creepy. And from the beginning, I kinda suspected that the girl was a guy.

Aug 2, 2013 8:59 PM

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Touka's split personality creeped me out >_>

Though it became amusing to watch after a while.

And that ending cliffhanger...
Aug 2, 2013 9:04 PM

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I want some of that delicious butter...but dang, that girl has an extreme split personality.
Aug 2, 2013 9:09 PM

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Did he became cupcakes?
Aug 2, 2013 9:16 PM

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Sho for best psyco ever calling some one a scub is mad points in my book. liked the episode but was unhappy with some of the thing they left out or some of the thing they switch during the class trial other then that great episode


also watch out for dem trap
Aug 2, 2013 9:25 PM
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Worst episode so far....
the trial rushed like hell.....
Aug 2, 2013 9:32 PM
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I JUST KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE A 16TH SUPER DUPER HIGH SCHOOLER!


Red herring. There is more to it than what is revealed in this episode.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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Aug 2, 2013 9:36 PM

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Dude... Mondo... That is the worst motive ever to kill someone. This anime doesn't really have good writing.
Aug 2, 2013 10:30 PM

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Aug 2, 2013 10:50 PM

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The game played it out so much better, but I guess it's normal for the anime to rush it since it'll be 13 episodes.
Aug 2, 2013 11:17 PM
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Maybe I am dumb, but I don't think a normal person from watching the anime would have conclude, who the culprit was. I can see why people feel it rushed. I concluded it was Aoi or Sakura. Sakura strength and height, since how high Chihiro was tied up. Aoi may have a knowledge of how to clean up the coffee stain with bleach or chlorine or something. Also, depending on if the person stood on their tippy toes there would be some indication of that or something on the bar which she was tied up to.

The "borrowing" or lending of the card just seemed out of place. Even if the guys were included into suspect list. I would not have put Mondo at the top of the list.
Aug 3, 2013 1:02 AM

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in anime, Had mondo not screwed up, he could've won the trial,,

in the games however..
Aug 3, 2013 1:24 AM

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Reading girl has a twist personality... and it's creepy!
Aug 3, 2013 1:27 AM

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des-sert said:
I didn't really get Mondo's Execution , can someone explain it to me? :/


he was basically tied to a motorcycle, sent to ride at an extreme high speed in an electrifying death cage, which pretty much fried him into butter. what a way to go that Mondo. live fast, die young...sobs.
Aug 3, 2013 2:54 AM

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Really? The biker's slip of the tongue was all it took to convict him from what I saw. If he kept quiet, it means he would have graduated, unlucky him.

In the game, are there any other evidence against him?
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Aug 3, 2013 3:08 AM

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This is the best they could do with only one episode for this trial. I've never been very convinced with the motive in this second murder, but the emotion was good enough to make you not really care about it. Unfortunately, the anime doesn't have the time to develop it.

For people who like this anime or feel like it has some wasted potential, I suggest you to play the game. Because this adaptation is mediocre at best.
Aug 3, 2013 3:12 AM

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Poor Ishimaru.
Syo is awesome.
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silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.

I'm sorry but no evidence ?
Oh but what Mondo and Ishimaru were doing late at the same very night of the murder ?
Seriously if you judge by the fact that the objects used and the manner done was bad compared to it's original it eliminates Genocider Syo from being the culprit and anyone else but Ishimaru and Mondo......
And , yes , the pattern will change . Unfortunately I cant guess from what episode.....maybe 10?
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Really? The biker's slip of the tongue was all it took to convict him from what I saw. If he kept quiet, it means he would have graduated, unlucky him.

In the game, are there any other evidence against him?


Mondo's ElectroiD is the evidence. Since his one was broken due to the sauna heat, he switched it with Leon's ID. If they make him show his ID in the trial, it would have shown it's Leon's and thus showing that his ID did break. Then Hirumi said that he found Chihiro's ID in the sauna [ID was missing at the crime scene], and the only person who knew how to break the ID was Mondo, concluding that he is the culprit.
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Melt down to BUTTER!! Awesomeeee!!

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Oh but what Mondo and Ishimaru were doing late at the same very night of the murder ?


The murder occured 2-3 days after their "battle" in the sauna.

I don't even understand how can people believe this, both meet up the next morning with the rest of the student and show them that they're bro.
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Well , my bad ..... it seems my missunderstanding led me to the right culprit .

Note to the hypocrites , they know themselves: The only thing I sploiled myself with are the ranks , the mole and who Monobear really is . I dont care if you hate me for what I've did but you playing dumb is way more annoying to me than insulting or hating me. For the rest of the serie I'll make a huge post with the suspects and eliminate them , wether I'm right or not , based on my experience with detectivistic series just to please your hyprocrisy-samas . And I read alot of detective novels , I saw alot of series , not only anime , about murderers....... so give me a break is way easyer to someone experienced with such things than someone watching at anime only or soap operas.

Oh ,yeah . If you determine the culprit based on evidence only and you ignore your instincts ..... well you obviously can be fooled by every case of murder . Evidence should be the backup , the arguments when you face the culprit . If your instincts says its X and it is you need the evidence to back it up but if you're wrong , well , it's instinct and it can be missleading.
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I knew it was coming, but my heart wasn't ready for all that anguished sobbing. Ishimaru. T_____T


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Missed censored for blood scene. Buy blu-ray to see bloody scene been censored off.

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silverheart99 said:
And once again Danganronpa proves that it's mysteries are impossible to solve on your own. In the last trial, the only piece of evidence that could actually have lead you to the answer on your own was the message. The rest of the evidence told you only how it happened with no clues to the killer. (no, i'm not counting the cuff and glass ball. You can make nothing of that on your own.)

In this trial, there wasn't ANY evidence that could legitimately lead you to the right culprit. Sure, you could probably figure out the whole switch rooms thing (they made the only no lending rule extremely obvious), but that could only help you narrow it down to half. There was no other evidence to help you figure out who it was. The only way that the people figured it out in the trial was by getting the dude whose name I never bothered to remember to give it away. That's not a good mystery because half the fun of a mystery is getting to guess yourself.

In both trials so far it was also incredibly obvious when you would have been pressing buttons in the game. I could just see the option to object for the statements Naegi disagreed with. I had hopes for this, at least in terms of my enjoying it. Unfortunately it's just been one letdown after another and it'll probably follow the exact same episode formula for most if not all of the rest of the series, another thing i'm likely to rage about. Maybe i'll get lucky and i'll be proven wrong, though.


So a mystery that contains twists and is not completely obvious is a bad mystery? In the game there was plenty of evidence pointing to Mondo, if you had played it you would have known.

Don't worry though, if all you want is easy mode obvious tier mysteries, you'll get your wish next episode.
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Another great episode, but somewhat run is what got for today with 13 episodes. Unfortunately adaptations of games are doing fine with a few episodes, so with Devil Survivor and now Dangan Ronpa, but despite that the anime is getting me out and keep me guessing for the next episodes, but I think it lacks something beyond the murders and trials, the history behind all be there, the past of the characters and so on.

Soundtrack: 4/5
Animation: 4/5
Plot: 4/5
Characters: 5/5
Climax 3/5
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OMG her other self 0__________0

Owada became pancake 0_0

I thought it was strange there was 16 seats but dat ending proved my suspicions.
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OMG her other self 0__________0

Owada became pancake 0_0

I thought it was strange there was 16 seats but dat ending proved my suspicions.

No , there are 16 sits because , at the beginning of the anime there were 16 seats . The one impersonating the Monobear aka the culprit , and other 15 . I might be wrong about 16th seat but that's most probably like it . Someone that died had.....
Also the one who Monobear was talking to wasnt an extra , it was a mole.
Ok , I'm stoping here because I go nose-bleed-spoiling.
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"Fujisaki san was a trap" I know I shouldn't laugh but I did.

Genocider Sho was so crazy. I love her as much as her original personality.

Poor Oowada. Despair is here again... He was a man even before his punishment. He did not really kill his brother but he did wrong later and reaped what he sowed... He was a kind guy... I love Kirigiri and Naegi's point of view the most. They remain logical but see things postively rather than negatively.

I wonder how Oowada felt during his punishment. It was brutal... I want to hate Monokuma but I can't... I like his dark sense of humor and I hate myself for this... So in the end it's all Maizono's fault according to monokuma. No one is at fault, it's just the situation. Man, this show will be the end of me.

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BloodyNightsky said:
AnimeFan500 said:
OMG her other self 0__________0

Owada became pancake 0_0

I thought it was strange there was 16 seats but dat ending proved my suspicions.


Jesus christ your at this shit again, stop posting shit that hasnt been brought up yet. and quit pretending like you havent played the game, cause you were hinting at shit that happens in chapter 6 back in the episode 2 thread where you spoiled a good half of the game

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I told you , I've spoiled myself with 3 things , who Monobear is , the ranks and the mole .
And I do not own a PSP , by the way. I do not wish to "disturb" any joy but what I've said in my last post is nothing . I havent posted any names , like someone else did few pages ago .I wonder why you didnt saw that but you saw me.....

As I said , from now on to avoid problems and any suspicions that I search for the culprit on the internet , I'll post in names I suspect , why I suspect them and the reason why one or how many of them are the culprit(s) .

Want me to quote the post where it was given a major spoiler ?
Mine it isnt even a spoiler compared to that......
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Jesus christ your at this shit again, stop posting shit that hasnt been brought up yet. and quit pretending like you havent played the game, cause you were hinting at shit that happens in chapter 6 back in the episode 2 thread where you spoiled a good half of the game

He still hasn't learnt his lesson? What the actual fu- bullocks. Doesn't anyone understand the first sentence of the topic post? And before anyone says anything, Dangan Ronpa has a manga series, too. And they are very much exactly the same in terms of plot with slight changes for character development.
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I haven't played the game (yet I will after this series is done) but so far this anime seems ok. At least it keeps me guessing. Would have never guess that the person who was killed was a trap.... and I definitely didn't think the biker gang leader was the killer for this murder.
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I told you , I've spoiled myself with 3 things , who Monobear is , the ranks and the mole .
And I do not own a PSP , by the way. I do not wish to "disturb" any joy but what I've said in my last post is nothing . I havent posted any names , like someone else did few pages ago .I wonder why you didnt saw that but you saw me.....

As I said , from now on to avoid problems and any suspicions that I search for the culprit on the internet , I'll post in names I suspect , why I suspect them and the reason why one or how many of them are the culprit(s) .

Want me to quote the post where it was given a major spoiler ?
Mine it isnt even a spoiler compared to that.....
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no one believes you didnt play the game, youv been stating spoilers of way more than 3 events since the 2nd episode as well as going into detial about things that havent happened yet

and about what parts are spoilers, its called everything you claim to have gotten "spoiled" aside from the 16th student they havent even been brought up yet, i should also add you were spoiling both the 16th student and the
killer's identity to chapter 1+ how he did it as well as saying theres a trap characters and a plethora of other spoilers all in 1 thread, thats more than just 3 spoilers especially since i didnt even mention the 2 that havent been brought up yet

Your story is about as believable as oj simpson saying "i didnt do it"

And to top it all off you just dug your own grave, you admitted what your saying are spoilers, if you were SPOILED to those events for you then of course mentioning them here before they are even introduced is a fucking spoiler too.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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