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Jul 7, 2013 11:11 PM

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Demonspeed said:
And is the official databook


I'm not saying it is correct, I'm just saying that is the reasoning behind why most people associated Pitou as male before Madhouse took a definative stance in making the character female.
 
Jul 7, 2013 11:32 PM

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Am I the only person who thinks knuckle and kuwabara, from yu yu hakusho, are the same character? lol oh well. Anyways isn't it possible that Pitou used a conjurers ability to create that big drum thing kite was in?
 
Jul 7, 2013 11:45 PM
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Am I the only person who thinks knuckle and kuwabara, from yu yu hakusho, are the same character? lol oh well. Anyways isn't it possible that Pitou used a conjurers ability to create that big drum thing kite was in?


With Pitou's massive aura and specialist affinity it would be really easy.
 
Jul 7, 2013 11:53 PM

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Envyus said:
embracebuddha said:
Am I the only person who thinks knuckle and kuwabara, from yu yu hakusho, are the same character? lol oh well. Anyways isn't it possible that Pitou used a conjurers ability to create that big drum thing kite was in?


With Pitou's massive aura and specialist affinity it would be really easy.

That doesn't seem to require really advanced technology...It's essentially just a container holding some preservative. Probably made out of glass and steel. It's quite likely that the ants scavenged it from the faculty.
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Jul 8, 2013 12:30 AM
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kuity said:
Envyus said:
embracebuddha said:
Am I the only person who thinks knuckle and kuwabara, from yu yu hakusho, are the same character? lol oh well. Anyways isn't it possible that Pitou used a conjurers ability to create that big drum thing kite was in?


With Pitou's massive aura and specialist affinity it would be really easy.

That doesn't seem to require really advanced technology...It's essentially just a container holding some preservative. Probably made out of glass and steel. It's quite likely that the ants scavenged it from the faculty.


I agree just pointing out that she could easily make one.
 
Jul 8, 2013 4:29 AM
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Xvenger said:

your entire post is probably the most rational and one I could totally accept out of all the debate about Pitou's gender.


They usually are. ;-)

But, like in all matters of discussion, this is seldom realised by *some* posters who have diametrically opposed opinions of it. One ALWAYS have some who will disagree. Which is fine, as long as counterarguments are based on rational reasoning and substantiated with logical arguments.

For those that aren't, I care next to nothing to be honest. I mean, one opinion equals the next, if no valid logical substantiation for it has been given.


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Pitou is female I don't get why people think she is male.


Pitou was strongly hinted as a male in the manga, I think even Togashi said so.


As far as I know, he didn't. In fact, this points out that Togashi was deliberately trying to let the gender of Pitou be ambiguous. It would have been very, very easy for him to settle the matter once and for all, from the start: he didn't.

The only time I can recall he made any implied suggestion of the gender of Pitou, was when he described her as a 'mother cat', which would rather indicate her to be female, rather then male.

I've seen the discussion about the male vs female debate a lot before, when the manga came out, and I know of the main argument that it is 'in the databook'. But I have two remarks on that:

1)Firstly, a databook is not the authoritative reference some people seem to think it is. Not all data in a databook is directly derived from the author, nor sanctioned by the mangaka. In essence, it's just a compendium of facts people make of it, and not all of these people have an authorative standing concerning that particular manga. (In fact, in some databooks it has been proven to contain actual mistakes, or things that were disputed by the author him/herself)

In short, there is only one authority that can or may decide or state in any meaningful way, if Pitou is male of female, and that is Togashi himself. If it's clearly indicated in the manga (and not of the scanlator), or whether it's in the databook - as long as he sanctioned that particular fact, doesn't really matter... but has he?

2)In fact, IS it in the databook? While I have seen many claim as such on the internet, everytime I asked to see definite proof (like a scan of that page), I never got anything. A first prerequisite would be to actually have proof it's literally mentionned in there - prefereably with confirmation of an independent person fluent in Japanese -, and secondly, to establish whether or not Togashi supports that particular fact.

To my knowledge, none of that has been done.


Of course, I must note it works both ways (reciprocity): it's NOT because those making the anime (or the subbers of it) have made the decision that Pitou is female, that that is, in fact, a fact. :-)

But the point I'm making is, that Togashi made it rather obvious he wants the gender of Pitou to remain ambiguous, so if some subber or databook-creator wanted to claim Pitou as male or female, in principle, both could be right. But then, seen her demeanour, I find it more natural to go for a female, to be honest.

In some sense, it would have been even better if the anime/subbers/databookguys would have continued in portraying her like Togashi did: with an ambiguous gender. But I guess that's just too difficult, especially in a Western-translated fashion.

Note that if she was male, she would be a tramp. ;-p

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Jul 8, 2013 2:20 PM

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I've always thought of Pitou as a male in the manga, but I really wouldn't mind if she's actually a female, since other than Bisuke [and Palm, to an extent], there aren't any other strong girls in this series. On another note, I really like Madhouse's selection of seiyuus; they match their respective characters extremely well.
 
Jul 8, 2013 7:57 PM

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Knuckles is a beast son.
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Jul 8, 2013 8:11 PM

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I like Knuckle!
Knov is so hot that I'm willing to overlook that asshole personality of his.

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Jul 8, 2013 9:49 PM

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Pitou is pretty much Frankenstein now, Nightmares in bound for Gon ;_;
 
Jul 9, 2013 5:30 AM

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AnimageNeby said:
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epic as always.. pitou looks so creepy.
another royal guard.
cant wait for last royal guard to be born.


What are you talking about? Pitou looks adorable as fuck.


Indeed. As fuck. :-p


What The FUCK!!!

On topic, I love that Knucle character. he is the true man...



 
Jul 9, 2013 4:52 PM

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Gon says they can't overcome everything with willpower, nice to hear since in the previous episode I say that I dislike him when he overestimate himself then got punch from bisky...
 
Jul 10, 2013 8:40 AM
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I really hope Kaito can be brought back to life or something. I miss him a lot !!

And I can't wait till Neferpitou and Netero fight! That will be so amazing. Oh, and Knuckle and Shoot need to go fast so we can get back to NGL. :)
 
Jul 10, 2013 10:16 PM

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Knuckle says not today XD I love how bisky is like "you guys are weak" then her inner voice says "These guys are growing so fast" haha cracks me up
 
Jul 11, 2013 5:39 PM

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great ep ^^ Knuckle is awesome and very nice :D
 
Jul 16, 2013 1:35 AM

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Knuckle is a pretty cool guy ^^

 
Aug 4, 2013 12:46 PM

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Oh my god, so tsundere. I love Knuckle. xD
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Aug 7, 2013 1:52 AM

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Knuckle is awesome, keeping up the old school manly man persona :p. It was hilarious when they were all eating lunch and Palm is standing in the back with a knife. Looks like Neferpitou wants to resurrect Kite for another fight, it's like Hisoka's soul mate.

"The fact is, we can't overcome everything with willpower." Thank you Gon, you're one of the few battle shounen MCs that faces reality!
 
Aug 14, 2013 2:48 PM
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Good episode.
Knuckle is quite a nice guy. So Tsundere without the love part in girls tsundere. His pets are good too.
The fight will get good in the next episode.
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Sep 9, 2013 8:43 PM

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I changed my mind about Knuckle. I like him more now :)
 
Sep 21, 2013 5:54 AM

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Knuckle is definitely a good guy at heart :P
 
Jan 8, 2014 2:05 AM

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Knuckle looks funny.. they way he talk is funny too.. he even like dogs.. hes a good guy.

Neferpitou is doing something nasty on Kite's body..
 
Feb 26, 2014 12:28 AM

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Lol @ Knuckle and Killua.

Netero's part looked pretty damn cool, even though he just stood up lol, and that power, another dimension?
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Mar 20, 2014 3:35 PM

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Pretty ironic how Hunters are supposedly loved by animals, while the principal goal of a real life hunter is killing animals.
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Apr 1, 2014 2:02 PM

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Their training is really RPG like, grind, challenge the boss, rest, grind, challenge the boss, rest...
 
Apr 1, 2014 2:13 PM

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Their training is really RPG like, grind, challenge the boss, rest, grind, challenge the boss, rest...


Which is... not very different from real life training lol
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Apr 19, 2014 1:13 AM
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Netero's cool but I wanna see him wreck some guys.
 
Apr 21, 2014 11:16 AM
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I hope that if Kaito is revived, he'll be himself and not a doll you can manipulate or something...
 
Jun 28, 2014 9:39 PM

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Nice training.
I don't see how they could possibly become strong enough.
 
Jul 1, 2014 2:28 AM

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Knuckle's a pretty funny guy. I agree with the comment that he's like a tsundere without the love stuff.

So there are more reinforcements coming. Netero still seems pretty wary, though.
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:31 AM

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Awwwwn, I wanted to see Netero beat the crap out of some chimera ants :(
They seem to be greatly underestimating the time left before the King birth. To me, he seem pretty close to eclosion.



Neferpitou seem to be doing somekind of crazy scientist experiments. Man, that girl is so wrong :|

Fucking Knuckle xD
That dude is such a big bro. He's the incarnation of the aniki.
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Mar 20, 2015 7:32 AM

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Netero kicking some ant ass, off-screen though :(
 
Apr 27, 2015 2:36 PM

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awwww such a cute doggie

 
Aug 18, 2015 7:09 PM

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Knuckle is amazing.
 
Aug 31, 2015 8:05 PM

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Random Derp, the queen has a miscarriage, Meruem comes out retarded, she has to go through the whole process again and Netero and the others take care of them.

And what a beast Knuckle is hope to see a lot more of him.
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Sep 29, 2015 7:06 AM

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Good, Gon. Your words made everything much more interesting.

Oh, and what was Biske reading? She's being the embodiment of fangirls or something.
 
Jan 16, 2016 11:42 AM

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good ep. ,on to the next one.
 
Mar 8, 2016 2:30 PM

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Okay okay... I'm totally new to HxH and I'm loving this arc already. It definitely has a AoT feel. Maybe it inspired it?

Anyway, HxH is an amazing show with pretty much no plot holes (comparing other shows). BUT please guys, I might be nitpicking but how on earth can anyone build a bio-lab with only Nen and some books? This is just ridiculous. I know they want to make the Ants scary, but damn no. How smart can you be to produce this crazy amount of electricity from thin air and have that knowledge to use it correctly... It's just wrong... :'p
 
Mar 10, 2016 11:20 AM
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Okay okay... I'm totally new to HxH and I'm loving this arc already. It definitely has a AoT feel. Maybe it inspired it?

Anyway, HxH is an amazing show with pretty much no plot holes (comparing other shows). BUT please guys, I might be nitpicking but how on earth can anyone build a bio-lab with only Nen and some books? This is just ridiculous. I know they want to make the Ants scary, but damn no. How smart can you be to produce this crazy amount of electricity from thin air and have that knowledge to use it correctly... It's just wrong... :'p


She could have gathered some of the mechanical equipment used by Gyro's and his people and modified them to suit her needs.
 
Apr 25, 2016 10:32 AM

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Netero is a fuckin B0SS!!
 
May 8, 2016 6:43 AM

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Knuckle is pretty cool hopefully he doesn't die ;-;.
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May 25, 2016 6:45 PM
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Palm looks like Takaneshi, Izumi from The Anime Working.
 
Jun 12, 2016 11:27 AM

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I'm attracted to palm
 
Oct 17, 2016 9:52 PM

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Knuckles reminds me of Franky xD
 
Oct 17, 2016 10:55 PM

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NTR doing some NTR-ing.

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Dec 27, 2016 3:43 AM

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Knuckle is cool! :)
 
Oct 14, 2017 1:21 PM

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I love watching them train. And cute dogs~
 
Dec 4, 2017 1:09 AM

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lol damn, I like earnest and sensitive muscleheads like Knuckle hahahhah. He really does remind me of Bokuto no Ryu; not just because of the hair lmao.

Killua in his plaid shirt <3 *O* so kayooot~



I love Palm and her little kitchen knife LOL she cracks me up xD

Kill em, Netero >:]
 
Jan 20, 2018 1:36 AM

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Where did Pitou even get all of those advanced machines from? Or are they built? At least Kite will be resurrected...

Knuckles is a really great guy, even though he's tough on the outside, his personality inside are kind.
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Feb 27, 2018 4:47 PM
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AWW, that scene with Knuckle and the dog is freaking cute!! :3 who knew this assassin has such a soft spot for animals? ;D I'm starting to love Knuckle now, though!! He's so cute with the crying and being overdramatic, LOL. xD

Interesting characters I've found so far in this arc are Knuckle, Shoot, and Palm. I meaan, the Chimera Ants are interesting enough but if we're talking about the newly introduced good guys, then I'm choosing those three. Idk why exactly but they just have this presence that makes me want to know more about them lol especially Shoot because we see him at the end of the episode, watching the fight between Knuckle vs Gon and Killua and I'm just wondering what he's up to! .-.

Great episode! 5/5, of course!:)
 
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