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Jul 10, 2013 3:33 AM
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this anime is not gay but Makoto is
Jul 10, 2013 8:20 AM

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Hiryu12 said:
ArufeimKirra said:
What's really 'gay' about this anime?

Uhh that these guys don't have any nipples?


So practically most anime shows are gay then huh?
I'm wondering why males don't have nipples but naked women in ecchi shows do have nipples?
Jul 10, 2013 8:54 AM

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Sourire said:
Hiryu12 said:
ArufeimKirra said:
What's really 'gay' about this anime?

Uhh that these guys don't have any nipples?


So practically most anime shows are gay then huh?
I'm wondering why males don't have nipples but naked women in ecchi shows do have nipples?

Most of the ecchi series are censored when airing on TV, but get uncensored ( = show nipples) in the BD, that's for different reasons, the main is that the BD will sell well because Japanese otaku want nipples... -_-'
And nipples in Japan are very EROTIC! it's not like in Us, Europe were you can see topless women everywhere (sunbathing in pool, beach...)! The Japanese bra always have pad inside, for 2 reasons, 1: Japanese have too small breasts and like to troll Japanese (and foreigners who still didn't believe the truth) guys, 2: never show nipples!! Try to make a Japanese girls were a standard European swimsuit (= no pad --> show nipples), even if she's not shy abut her breasts size, she would never were it because it show nipples!! I'm not trolling now, I try it!
Of course guys nipples are no as erotics as girls ones, but still... and I have 2 Japanese friends (guys, with girlfriends) who like to joke about guys nipples and pinch them over their friend shirts... and their girlfriends are "kyaaaaa!!! kyaaaa!!" all the time about it! (not otaku, not anime fan, not fujoshi neither)
Jul 10, 2013 4:39 PM

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Oh my god are you using your brain?
You know I came back to this thread because I was curious about peoples opinions, but I just cant take it any more you nerds are like a pack of wild dogs, does every little detail need to be precisely investigated, analyzed and defined? You must be very skilled at writing analytical essays, can you really not do anything better with your time? You and your kind seem to spend it disagreeing and trying to make your point believed by everyone it really gives off a bad impression. I myself and others have given countless examples just look at what some of the other people have said because I'm not going to waste my time looking for more examples, I have a life you know. If you really want to think this show is 100% straight macho manliness and that the characters act and behave like normal straight men then you go right ahead and think that but In my opinion (and a lot of other peoples) you are wrong.

I'm not wasting my time with this racist/sexist/homophobic website from now on so don't expect anymore replies. Have fun being angry and miserable internet person I don't know (or ever will)


Homophobic? No, I was merely stating a fact. I'm accepting of all sexual orientations, but I hate words being thrown around like there's no tomorrow. But okay, if insults are all you can do in place of a legitimate argument, (since you clearly stopped reading after the first line) that's fine with me as well. The only one angry here is you, my friend. :) Good day to you too, sir.
Jul 10, 2013 6:54 PM

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ranzero said:
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*sigh*
dat naked apron,
guy blushing at another guy,
dat water fetish
guy stripped in public
guy bondage club at the ending sequence
and you said this is NOT gay ??


let me answer that question with question. Are they sticking their dick inside others? NO.
So obviously no.
And it IS a typical fanservice, normal in any anime. NORMAL.
=)


okay, perhaps this isn't yaoi, more like shounen-ai


Lol not even close, just shojo with male lead tyvm
Jul 10, 2013 6:58 PM

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Jyagan said:
AriaFlame said:
ranzero said:
*sigh*
dat naked apron,
guy blushing at another guy,
dat water fetish
guy stripped in public
guy bondage club at the ending sequence
and you said this is NOT gay ??


Don't forget the half naked main character in the desert also in the ending

Seriously, what the hell does any of ending have to do with swimming?


Jyagan said:
Funny Logic

Cute girls doing cute things = Macho Anime


What? If you think that's macho, I think you need help.


That is the common thinking for Hardcore Moetard Otakus and they are the ones that are bashing this anime, because their favourite pandering factory has betrayed them.


LOL XD you think? the moment when the advertisement commercial was shown, Free! spread like wild fire, and now its burning =w= burning the eyes out of those moe lovers
Jul 10, 2013 7:01 PM

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I personally think of this as a bromance anime, like Kimi to Boku, but with swimming. The second episode... the homo thoughts left me when I saw it... just seemed like a normal coming of age with boys like K-On, but with guys and swimming. :3
Jul 10, 2013 8:30 PM

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The anime is fine if the blue hair character named Rei Ryuugazaki's voice and actions was manly enough. I can't stand his actions towards Haruka Nanase. I think the right term for his character is "Moe" (I'm not sure). He's tall and looks manly but the voice. Uurrgh.
Jul 10, 2013 8:34 PM

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Nothing, yet........hoping for something though.
Jul 10, 2013 8:41 PM
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Ash-Falls-Town said:
I've seen plenty of people assert that Kagami from Lucky Star and Tsumugi from K-On! are lesbians as if it was self evident.


Kagami not so much, Tsumugi? Humm, at the beginning of the series it was strongly hinted that she leaned that way, but they toned it down after episode 5 or 6. Though I would say the "hinting" wasn't nearly AS strong as the first episode of Free, the second episode was pretty much normalized though.
Jul 10, 2013 8:56 PM
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The only gay in this series is whatever fanfiction or doujinshi come out of it.
Jul 11, 2013 1:05 AM

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GChan said:
The only gay in this series is whatever fanfiction or doujinshi come out of it.

^ this!

I still don't get how people see shounen-ai/yaoi fanservice (up to now) in Free!!
There are fangirl service, but look at Host Club (the twins), Tiger & Bunny (Tiger and Bunny, ... that episode 25!!!), Nabari no Ou (Yoite and Miharu), Kuroko no Basket (Kagami and Kuroko, and a lot of others), Prince of Tennis (Inui/Kaido, Oishi/Eiji,, ...) ... those have "real" shounen-ai fanservice: promise on the sunset, date episode (Prince of Tennis), princess hug (?? don't know in English)... even if it was not made as shounen-ai fanservice (is it even possible??)

right now, in Free! we just have bishounen fanservice, not pair of bishounen fanservice, and it's veryyyy different!
I hope they will include some bishounen pair fanservice also, and like in most other anime, not shounen-ai/yaoi/BL shipping people wouldn't notice that! but here, the heater will see more than the fangirls even if they need for this to watch several times the same episode...
Look at the 1st episode of "Saki", the shoujo-ai fanservice is big! Free! fanservice is definitely not of the same kind!

Also: Shounen-ai/yaoi/BL series (manga and anime) ARE NOT FOR GAY VIEWERS!!! of course they can like it, as much as straight guys, but it's still cute guys, too much unrealistic romance... Gay have their own genre: Bara! Watch a gay porn and a yaoi series you will see the difference!
amayihJul 11, 2013 1:09 AM
Jul 11, 2013 8:21 AM

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Why to 80% of girls on MAL pretend they are boys?
Just go to the Op profile page.

As about what is gay? Well i guess the two blond dudes.
Jul 11, 2013 8:53 AM

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Monad said:
Why to 80% of girls on MAL pretend they are boys?
Just go to the Op profile page.


So for you, reading user profile like this one is enough to tell if it's a girl or a guy!! You're very good at this! because even at looking at his list I'm not able to tell! A lot of bishounen anime, but like most of shounen! No so many ecchi/fanservice... a lot of girls in MAL like ecchi/fanservice much more than bishounen, and think that harem = romance!
Plus, even if it's the case for the OP... one case = 80%... I think you need to go to school again/more!

Monad said:
As about what is gay? Well i guess the two blond dudes.


two blond dudes... not even one of those two is blond...
And Haruka is only interested by the water...

Btw, why are you even on this forum? go back watching your ecchi / big boobs series! From the beginning you're not the target, and you're absolutely not open mind guy so... and you should go out of your head, take some fresh air sometimes!
Jul 11, 2013 9:22 AM

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amayih said:

Monad said:
As about what is gay? Well i guess the two blond dudes.


two blond dudes... not even one of those two is blond...
And Haruka is only interested by the water...


Lol so stupid. I don't mean the guy in-frond i mean the guy holding his shirt and the other guy(who is completely blond) that behaves pretty much like what you will expect from any Kyoani moe girl.

amayih said:
Monad said:
Why to 80% of girls on MAL pretend they are boys?
Just go to the Op profile page.


So for you, reading user profile like this one is enough to tell if it's a girl or a guy!! You're very good at this! because even at looking at his list I'm not able to tell!


Don't worry about it, that's because you are stupid.

amayih said:

Btw, why are you even on this forum? go back watching your ecchi / big boobs series! From the beginning you're not the target, and you're absolutely not open mind guy so... and you should go out of your head, take some fresh air sometimes!


I watch my boob anime already, i don't need you to tell me.
Why am i here? Because in the end it seems i really am more open minded than you and a look at our list proves that too.
MonadJul 11, 2013 9:36 AM
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Monad said:
amayih said:

Monad said:
As about what is gay? Well i guess the two blond dudes.


two blond dudes... not even one of those two is blond...
And Haruka is only interested by the water...


Lol so stupid. I don't mean the guy in-frond i mean the guy holding his shirt and the other guy(who is completely blond) that behaves pretty much like what you will expect from any Kyoani moe girl.


- YOU write the two blond dudes
- Makoto's hair are bronw, or light brown, not blond (Nagisa is blond)
- Makoto seems/is easily frightened, it's not manly, ok! but it's pretty normal among Japanese, guys or girls!
- I don't see how being a 17 years old easily frightened guy make him (or even less them since YOU write "As about what is gay? Well i guess the two blond dudes" gays... it's the more stupid reason in this forum I think... every American (or what even country you come from) 17 years old guys are mainly and sooo brave I think...
- You should try go go to Japan... I mean the REAL Japan, not the Japan from anime/manga... the Japan where guys like cute stuff, don't mind wearing pink shirts/pants... use more and more make-up and beauty cream... they are maybe not mainly for you (but it's still much better than all those stupid war/guns lovers) but anime is from JAPAN and for JAPANESE people, so it's normal that guys act like Japanese guy, even more since it's an anime for girl! Watching manly hairly guys are for GAYS not for young girls/women... GAYS are not the target... why are you watching?

And from the Makoto's character profile: "He is very kind and considerate, but is also very easily scared and weak-hearted."... just a Japanese high school guy!
Jul 11, 2013 9:41 AM

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People can be so unreasonable.
See what you want to see,since you're gonna do it either way.

There were people seeing boy love in Sakamichi No Apollon too,or hoping for it.
Well guess what..it didn't happen. Not even close. It was a great story about friendship. People calling that gay sure had no idea about friendship between men.

Now,i am sure they still have no idea how to proceed with this anime,as many times they change their plans half-way.
It might end up having some boy-love (intended,nothing ''clear'') due to lack of a good scenario..
Jul 11, 2013 9:46 AM

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Lunaria said:
Now,i am sure they still have no idea how to proceed with this anime,as many times they change their plans half-way.
It might end up having some boy-love (intended,nothing ''clear'') due to lack of a good scenario..


Stop wasting your time here and watch episode 2 before writing stupid comments!
"Lack of a good scenario", from the first episode!!! Not even all the main characters are introduced yet!!!!
Jul 11, 2013 9:51 AM

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amayih said:
Lunaria said:
Now,i am sure they still have no idea how to proceed with this anime,as many times they change their plans half-way.
It might end up having some boy-love (intended,nothing ''clear'') due to lack of a good scenario..


Stop wasting your time here and watch episode 2 before writing stupid comments!
"Lack of a good scenario", from the first episode!!! Not even all the main characters are introduced yet!!!!


LMAO calm your freaking horses! I intended more ahead. I didn't write anything stupid,so think about it twice before you start attacking people.

WHOEVER said i was judging the scenario from the first episode? geez....
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Lunaria said:
amayih said:
Lunaria said:
Now,i am sure they still have no idea how to proceed with this anime,as many times they change their plans half-way.
It might end up having some boy-love (intended,nothing ''clear'') due to lack of a good scenario..


Stop wasting your time here and watch episode 2 before writing stupid comments!
"Lack of a good scenario", from the first episode!!! Not even all the main characters are introduced yet!!!!


LMAO calm your freaking horses! I intended more ahead. I didn't write anything stupid,so think about it twice before you start attacking people.

WHOEVER said i was judging the scenario from the first episode? geez....


I'm sorry. I was too annoyed by all these people who criticize without thinking.
I did the same thing, I'm sorry!
But, "It might end up having some boy-love (intended,nothing ''clear'') due to lack of a good scenario.." is too much! Why boy-love (or intended boy-love) = lack of scenario??? There are GOOD BOYS LOVE!! With a good scenario (even if it's not those who usually become anime series... )!

I still hope one day, maybe this time (even if for me it's don't seems like a boys love, not even light shounen-ai yet) we will have a good boys love anime! with a beautiful character design, good story, romance... it's don't need to be complicated, no need drama, just slice of life, something like "Seven Days" for example!
Jul 11, 2013 10:10 AM

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I mean,that they do that sometimes,not that all boy-love anime are bad!
That was referring to this anime,not a generalization.
Apology accepted.
I am liking this anime,so i can't wait to watch episode two.
But i am biased because i used to do prof.swimming and i miss those days :-)
Jul 11, 2013 10:17 AM
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it's not gay at all. actually, it's a masterpiece man! the ending is so good too <3
Jul 11, 2013 10:23 AM

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dat ED =.=
i wanna choke myself
Jul 11, 2013 10:28 AM

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piperz said:
dat ED =.=
i wanna choke myself
Why, so you can go to heaven where they are waiting?
Jul 11, 2013 11:18 AM

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It's top tier...
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

Jul 11, 2013 11:22 AM
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First of all, amayih I'd like to thank you so much for fighting for a good name of Free! You go girl!! ^ ^

Well, as for me, I really can't see any gayness, as you say, in this show. I used to think it will be anime filled with sexual innuendos and rainbows and ponies but it was mostly due to expectations in fangirl's fandom and all the fanfictions. Damn, I think I wouldn't even mind if it was an anime like that. But really, after watching two episodes which were full of almost naked hothothot boys where the hell can you see gayness in it?

Once again, I wouldn't mind and I don't mind if you have some m/m pairings in Free! but really, it's kinda forced, don't you think?
I mean, it's such an amazing story (so far) filled with friendship and passion and tragedy, why do you need to put bl in it? It kinda ruins everything in my opinion.
I think I saw more gayness in Ouran than in Free! ...

/you just gonna ignore me, right? :')/
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amayih said:
I still don't get how people see shounen-ai/yaoi fanservice (up to now) in Free!! There are fangirl service, but look at Host Club (the twins), Tiger & Bunny (Tiger and Bunny, ... that episode 25!!!), Nabari no Ou (Yoite and Miharu), Kuroko no Basket (Kagami and Kuroko, and a lot of others), Prince of Tennis (Inui/Kaido, Oishi/Eiji,, ...) ... those have "real" shounen-ai fanservice


There was never any shonen-ai fanservice in KnB. The show has a large fujioshi following that probably would've liked to see that type of fanservice, but that's about it.

If KnB had shonen-ai fanservice, then this must be full out yaoi. I can clearly see that they put certain scenes into this anime so that fujioshi would pick up on it.
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Too lazy to make a signature. F*** it.
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SolviteSekai said:
Free isn't gay, which sadly is its biggest fault.

Without Yaoi its just a generic people join a club and hang out anime.

This.
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Jul 11, 2013 1:28 PM

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I'm watching this because I like Gou. Does that make me gay ?
Jul 11, 2013 2:19 PM

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MoeGalacticHero said:
SolviteSekai said:
Free isn't gay, which sadly is its biggest fault.

Without Yaoi its just a generic people join a club and hang out anime.

This.


Well, there are some episodes left...
Jul 11, 2013 3:50 PM

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probably they forget to take their gay goggles off before watching this series.

this series is only gay if you want it to be

*flies away*


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
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Nidstang said:
MoeGalacticHero said:
SolviteSekai said:
Free isn't gay, which sadly is its biggest fault.

Without Yaoi its just a generic people join a club and hang out anime.

This.


Well, there are some episodes left...

I want the D and I want it now.
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Jul 12, 2013 12:43 AM

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Because they're girls with dicks, you're basically seeing cute boys doing cute things instead of manly men doing manly things that's just wrong.
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MoeGalacticHero said:
Nidstang said:
MoeGalacticHero said:
SolviteSekai said:
Free isn't gay, which sadly is its biggest fault.

Without Yaoi its just a generic people join a club and hang out anime.

This.


Well, there are some episodes left...

I want the D and I want it now.

General rule: you should only yearn for D when it's not shoved in your face.
Jul 12, 2013 5:15 AM
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There was never any shonen-ai fanservice in KnB. The show has a large fujioshi following that probably would've liked to see that type of fanservice, but that's about it.

If KnB had shonen-ai fanservice, then this must be full out yaoi. I can clearly see that they put certain scenes into this anime so that fujioshi would pick up on it.


Showing very close friendship, jealousy or rivalry are all forms of ship bait, I think (no matter the gender). I remember laughing at just how much Aomine was acting like some jaded ex-lover, for example, hahaha.

There'll probably be just as much homosexuality in this show as there are in all those moe-fanservice and sports anime. It'll be there if fans want to see it, won't be canon, and that's just another form of fanservice. No big deal.
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riksza said:
First of all, amayih I'd like to thank you so much for fighting for a good name of Free! You go girl!! ^ ^

Thank you ^^ I try to do my best (even if I don't like English...)

riksza said:
Well, as for me, I really can't see any gayness, as you say, in this show. I used to think it will be anime filled with sexual innuendos and rainbows and ponies but it was mostly due to expectations in fangirl's fandom and all the fanfictions. Damn, I think I wouldn't even mind if it was an anime like that. But really, after watching two episodes which were full of almost naked hothothot boys where the hell can you see gayness in it?

Once again, I wouldn't mind and I don't mind if you have some m/m pairings in Free! but really, it's kinda forced, don't you think?
I mean, it's such an amazing story (so far) filled with friendship and passion and tragedy, why do you need to put bl in it? It kinda ruins everything in my opinion.
I think I saw more gayness in Ouran than in Free! ...

/you just gonna ignore me, right? :')/

^ same here! I see bishounen fanservice but not (yet) shounen-ai/BL/yaoi fanservice...
and I will not really say "amazing story"... it's just bishounen slice of life/school life/pool club life story... not that we have a lot of those around, but... amazing bishounen ok, amazing story not really... ^_^


KittyCalando said:
There was never any shonen-ai fanservice in KnB. The show has a large fujioshi following that probably would've liked to see that type of fanservice, but that's about it.

This is the most funny thing I read on this forum! thank you ^^ Not shounen-ai fanservice in Kuroko no Basket... did we even watch the same series?? Promise at the sunset, two guys fighting over Kuroko (he's mine! no he's mine!), the "I'll make you regret not having chosen me" conversation, the Kuroko's eyes when watching Kagami, an other promise at sunset... Those ending card...

KittyCalando said:
There was never any shonen-ai fanservice in KnB. The show has a large fujioshi following that probably would've liked to see that type of fanservice, but that's about it.

If KnB had shonen-ai fanservice, then this must be full out yaoi. I can clearly see that they put certain scenes into this anime so that fujioshi would pick up on it.

No! Up to now, it's only bishounen fanservice! (not that I would mind REAL shounen-ai/BL/yaoi fanservice at all!!! I still have hope to see some in Free!)
and you know why? to have shounen-ai (BL/yaoi) fanservice we need TWO (or more) guys... I mean, we have more than one guy, of course, but they didn't interact together the way we can see them as a pairing (I don't speak about fangirls who can find pairing in every anime/manga if there are at least 2 guys, I know I'm the same, we just need imagination)!
- Here we have one guy, Haruka, who like to strip but he do it only to go to the water, and really don't mind the other, so he don't do it to be seen like "look at my sexy boby, you want me isn't it?" but like "I want to go to the water, I need to remove my clothes" --> bishounen fanservice
- Nagisa: strip naked to go to the pool... he's the more childish guys among them and they are all childhood friend, they probably already see each other naked so many time (shower, onsen, public bath since it's a norm in Japan). He didn't act at all like "look at me, I'm a cute uke!"
- Makoto: some people said it's not normal to go to other people bathroom... well, they are childhood friends (from the character setting, they are always together) and Haruka's water obsession probably make him being late at school very often, that's why he's coming to pick him up! Did he blush watching Haruka's body? no! did he looks like embarrassed or disappointed? no! (maybe he was, but he didn't look like at all so it's not shounen-ai fanservice)! did Haruka blush? no! he just didn't mind! he just wanted to stay longer in the bathtub!
- Makoto again: he grabbed Haruka shirts! it's not enough to say it's shounen-ai fanservice! I saw hetero Japanese guys doing it (university students, now married (not to each other!!) with kids) were normally! I was chocked (I have a fujoshi mind so looking at this I really thought they were together... but it seems pretty normal between guys or between girls when they are friends! In Europa, USA... we kiss on the cheeks to say hello/goodbye, in Japan they don't! It's very strange for them to do it! it's just culture differences! nothing shounen-ai fanservice here! (but fujoshi can still have a lot of ideas I don't mind! I just say it's not as shounen-ai fanservice but just slice of life!)
- Rei: He's the more "shounen-ai fanservice" guy in the group... but even, he's obsess by Haruka (not really enough - yet - for fanservice! He way he grab Haruka in the pool could have been shounen-ai fanservice if at least Haruka looks surprised, embarassed, blushed... but Haruka just didn't mind... "water is so good, I don't mond anything else!)! But for maybe futur shounen-ai fanservice, we have the photo's Rei watched a long time: who is this boy? friend? rival? family? It wasn't Haruka (sadly) so, up to now we don't know!)

Shounen-ai fanservice need on guy to think or react to an other in a erotic/embarassed/shy way! Or saying something who can be interpreted as shounen-ai like "I need you", "I want you", "you're mind", "you will regret to not be with me", "you will come to implore me", I will make you cry"... there are thousands of possibilities! Sadly up to now, we had nothing like this! Just bishounen fanservice and friends slice of life!
I you want to compare, if Rei and Haruka in the pool had the same kind of fanservice as the first 20seconds of Makai Ouji (the uke even blush, and it looks like a kiss!), it would have been shounen-ai fanservice!

But again, it's just the first 2 episodes!
and if Free! was a yaoi, those guys have already slept together... but up to now, Kuroko no Basket guys' interactions are much more erotic than Free! even if the bishounen fanservice it much stronger in Free! than in Kuroko no Basket!

tracylord said:
KittyCalando said:
There was never any shonen-ai fanservice in KnB. The show has a large fujioshi following that probably would've liked to see that type of fanservice, but that's about it.

If KnB had shonen-ai fanservice, then this must be full out yaoi. I can clearly see that they put certain scenes into this anime so that fujioshi would pick up on it.


Showing very close friendship, jealousy or rivalry are all forms of ship bait, I think (no matter the gender). I remember laughing at just how much Aomine was acting like some jaded ex-lover, for example, hahaha.

There'll probably be just as much homosexuality in this show as there are in all those moe-fanservice and sports anime. It'll be there if fans want to see it, but not obvious or canon, and that's just another form of fanservice, no big deal.


^this!
but Free! as (up to episode 2) less of this fanservice than Kuroko no Basket!

(I would like to be able to explain it better in English... I would like this forum to be in Japanese or French ^o^)
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amayih said:

This is the most funny thing I read on this forum! thank you ^^ Not shounen-ai fanservice in Kuroko no Basket... did we even watch the same series?? Promise at the sunset, two guys fighting over Kuroko (he's mine! no he's mine!), the "I'll make you regret not having chosen me" conversation, the Kuroko's eyes when watching Kagami, an other promise at sunset... Those ending card...


All of the things you just mentioned are more or less equivalent to what has happened in Free!. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cause a big argument. :( All I'm trying to say is that many scenes in this anime are purposely put they way they are so that they can be interpreted in different ways:

The OP where a male hand is saving Haruka from drowning. Makoto helping Haruka out of his bathtub. Rin looking at Haruka and saying: "Romantic, isn't it?". The close up shot of Makoto grabbing Haruka's hands while he was undoing his belt. Haruka quitting competitive swimming because he hurt Rin. Haruka getting upset when Gou mentions Rin. Nagisa sleeping on Haruka's shoulder. All of these scenes can be interpreted. Some may see "friends", some may see something more. Same with KnB. Some may see "friends/once friends", while others may see more. At the end of the day it is up to the viewer.

I'm not agreeing with the people who call this anime 'gay', I'm just saying that shonen-ai is not completely non-existent in it. If it was, we wouldn't have so many people mentioning these scenes.

amayih said:

No! Up to now, it's only bishounen fanservice! (not that I would mind REAL shounen-ai/BL/yaoi fanservice at all!!! I still have hope to see some in Free!)
and you know why? to have shounen-ai (BL/yaoi) fanservice we need TWO (or more) guys... I mean, we have more than one guy, of course, but they didn't interact together the way we can see them as a pairing (I don't speak about fangirls who can find pairing in every anime/manga if there are at least 2 guys, I know I'm the same, we just need imagination)!
- Here we have one guy, Haruka, who like to strip but he do it only to go to the water, and really don't mind the other, so he don't do it to be seen like "look at my sexy boby, you want me isn't it?" but like "I want to go to the water, I need to remove my clothes" --> bishounen fanservice
- Nagisa: strip naked to go to the pool... he's the more childish guys among them and they are all childhood friend, they probably already see each other naked so many time (shower, onsen, public bath since it's a norm in Japan). He didn't act at all like "look at me, I'm a cute uke!"
- Makoto: some people said it's not normal to go to other people bathroom... well, they are childhood friends (from the character setting, they are always together) and Haruka's water obsession probably make him being late at school very often, that's why he's coming to pick him up! Did he blush watching Haruka's body? no! did he looks like embarrassed or disappointed? no! (maybe he was, but he didn't look like at all so it's not shounen-ai fanservice)! did Haruka blush? no! he just didn't mind! he just wanted to stay longer in the bathtub!
- Makoto again: he grabbed Haruka shirts! it's not enough to say it's shounen-ai fanservice! I saw hetero Japanese guys doing it (university students, now married (not to each other!!) with kids) were normally! I was chocked (I have a fujoshi mind so looking at this I really thought they were together... but it seems pretty normal between guys or between girls when they are friends! In Europa, USA... we kiss on the cheeks to say hello/goodbye, in Japan they don't! It's very strange for them to do it! it's just culture differences! nothing shounen-ai fanservice here! (but fujoshi can still have a lot of ideas I don't mind! I just say it's not as shounen-ai fanservice but just slice of life!)
- Rei: He's the more "shounen-ai fanservice" guy in the group... but even, he's obsess by Haruka (not really enough - yet - for fanservice! He way he grab Haruka in the pool could have been shounen-ai fanservice if at least Haruka looks surprised, embarassed, blushed... but Haruka just didn't mind... "water is so good, I don't mond anything else!)! But for maybe futur shounen-ai fanservice, we have the photo's Rei watched a long time: who is this boy? friend? rival? family? It wasn't Haruka (sadly) so, up to now we don't know!)

Shounen-ai fanservice need on guy to think or react to an other in a erotic/embarassed/shy way! Or saying something who can be interpreted as shounen-ai like "I need you", "I want you", "you're mind", "you will regret to not be with me", "you will come to implore me", I will make you cry"... there are thousands of possibilities! Sadly up to now, we had nothing like this! Just bishounen fanservice and friends slice of life!
I you want to compare, if Rei and Haruka in the pool had the same kind of fanservice as the first 20seconds of Makai Ouji (the uke even blush, and it looks like a kiss!), it would have been shounen-ai fanservice!

But again, it's just the first 2 episodes!
and if Free! was a yaoi, those guys have already slept together... but up to now, Kuroko no Basket guys' interactions are much more erotic than Free! even if the bishounen fanservice it much stronger in Free! than in Kuroko no Basket!


Again, I'm really sorry. I really don't want to argue... xD (Please don't hate me!!!) I'm not saying that this show has shonen-ai fanservice, I'm just saying that it at times has subtle shonen-ai undertones. Perhaps I should've worded myself a little better? xD
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Jul 12, 2013 4:25 PM

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Well its gay cause theres fanservice on dude

thats the definition of gay, thats why shows like high school dxd and to love ru are lesbian

See how dumb that sounds? Just as dumb as saying this show is gay for that reason alone. Until the dudes start having make out sessions or start whipping out their dicks and inserting them into places hetero men would not appreciate being entered by, its not gay

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 12, 2013 4:25 PM

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ranzero said:
*sigh*
dat naked apron,
guy blushing at another guy,
dat water fetish
guy stripped in public
guy bondage club at the ending sequence
and you said this is NOT gay ??


let me answer that question with question. Are they sticking their dick inside others? NO.
So obviously no.
And it IS a typical fanservice, normal in any anime. NORMAL.
=)


Not yet... There's only been 2 episodes. =/
Jul 12, 2013 4:30 PM

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tracylord said:
Showing very close friendship, jealousy or rivalry are all forms of ship bait, I think (no matter the gender). I remember laughing at just how much Aomine was acting like some jaded ex-lover, for example, hahaha.

There'll probably be just as much homosexuality in this show as there are in all those moe-fanservice and sports anime. It'll be there if fans want to see it, won't be canon, and that's just another form of fanservice. No big deal.


To each their own I guess? It's funny, I never took Aomine's reaction that way. But I guess that's what you're saying. It's only there if you want in to be there. It's probably because I'm a Kagakuro shipper... O.O
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This topic just further hurts the people who think that it is a "gay" anime. Everyone should be free to watch what they like. If you want to judge the anime on anything including its merit please do so in the episode discussion topics. We do not need to create a topic every time something comes to our head about this anime.

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