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| Disappointing ending, recap for the first half and then stuff that should have happened(?) flashed through in the second half. Still, I really liked this series so I'm going to keep my 8/10. |
| lol...Well, at least it's over. Anyone remember Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou ? This reminded me of that awful series finale. |
| "Seize the time, Meribor - live now! Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again." - Captain Jean-Luc Picard. |
| I'll definitely buy the Blu-Ray when it comes out. I actually thought the end of the season was really good, it kind of showcased what could be, and what could be looked awesome. The backgrounds looked fantastic in this episode, I'm really impressed with a series that I wanted to drop after the first episode. You've got to love the director's comments at the end of each episode, "I'm sorry I called you all pieces of shit," indeed. |
| Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest! Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks? Bakemonogatari, Episode 5. |
| This final episode, even though it was basically a recap, had what the series lacked the most imo, fast pacing. Got used to the animation, and honestly it was kinda nice after all, but i think there was so much wasted potential here.. 6/10 ( the setting/plot/theme kept it that high for me) |
| I thought that was a terrible last episode. Hopefully there's another season... |
| Here is what it said on the end card: 皆様をクソムシ呼ばわりして どうもすみませんでした! 押見修造 Minasama o kusomushi yobawarishite dōmo sumimasen deshita! Oshimi Shūzō I'll translate it this way: With my deep respect to all of you, I am very sorry for having called you kusomushi! -- Oshimi Shūzō |
okanaganJun 30, 2013 3:35 AM
| Welp. What an anti-climax, I was hoping for Nakamura's room to be more................ interesting. Also a lot of flashbacks and a tiny hint of what's to come. Good show. Not the best ending. |
| Gimme second season!!! *0* |
| ;_; Damn this episode was intense, I think I literally fell in love with Nakamura *_* and what is this, the prospect of a part 2, I'm down. After all the haters hating it's funny to see this could get a sequel, I for one really hope it does. |
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flamingo-chan said: If people want a second season, buy the DVD/BDs. Right now, Aku no Hana is predicted to be one of the anime with the worst sales of spring (it won't even reach 1k according to statistics on preorders made) so the chances of a second season are really low. The production committee won't invest money on a second season of something that generated very low sales. I say good luck. The production committee will only consider sales in the domestic market. So you will need many people to buy all the Japanese BD/DVD (￥6,300/￥5,775 or 63.52 USD/58.23 USD per volume) volumes, where volume 1 has the first 2 episodes on them. It comes out on July 24, so you guys still have a chance to turn things around if there are several thousand of you that are willing to buy. However, the sales of the manga were boosted from the anime. Whether this is enough for a sequel is anyone's guess. Of course this anime could be a planned split 2-cour... which means it is almost likely to get a sequel regardless of the disc sales in that case. I wouldn't hold my breath though. |
EjcJun 30, 2013 3:47 AM
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Ejc said: I say good luck. The production committee will only consider sales in the domestic market. So you will need many people need to buy the Japanese BD/DVD (￥6,300/￥5,775). It comes out on July 24, so you guys still have a chance to turn things around if there are several thousand of you that are willing to buy. However, the sales of the manga were boosted from the anime. Whether this is enough for a sequel is anyone's guess. Of course this anime could be a planned split 2-cour... which means it is almost likely to get a sequel regardless of the disc sales. I wouldn't hold my breath though. I wish people would stop talking about BD / DVD sales as the only indicator or profit and therefor a sequel. Look at Chihayafuru, all the BD sales fanatics were saying it would never get a 2nd season and look what we got. This obviously won't sell many BD as it pretty much went out with the intention of pissing off otaku, the main demographic that buys them, the mangaka even said this in his interview. Considering the end I will pretty much put money on Hiroshi doing a 2nd season regardless of BD sales. It would be nice if the manga sales get boosted and it sold some though. |
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ReasonDesu said: Ejc said: I say good luck. The production committee will only consider sales in the domestic market. So you will need many people need to buy the Japanese BD/DVD (￥6,300/￥5,775). It comes out on July 24, so you guys still have a chance to turn things around if there are several thousand of you that are willing to buy. However, the sales of the manga were boosted from the anime. Whether this is enough for a sequel is anyone's guess. Of course this anime could be a planned split 2-cour... which means it is almost likely to get a sequel regardless of the disc sales. I wouldn't hold my breath though. I wish people would stop talking about BD / DVD sales as the only indicator or profit and therefor a sequel. Look at Chihayafuru, all the BD sales fanatics were saying it would never get a 2nd season and look what we got. This obviously won't sell many BD as it pretty much went out with the intention of pissing off otaku, the main demographic that buys them, the mangaka even said this in his interview. Considering the end I will pretty much put money on Hiroshi doing a 2nd season regardless of BD sales. It would be nice if the manga sales get boosted and it sold some though. There is reason to talk about BD/DVD sales, because that is one factor in determining if a "late-night" anime gets a sequel or not. In Chihayafuru's case, the anime provided a big boost to the manga sales. It did not get a sequel from thin-air. As I wrote in my previous post, Aku no Hana manga did get a boost from the anime. Whether that is enough, i'm not sure... but you cannot just ignore BD/DVD sales talk in likelihood of anime getting sequels. |
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| I feel uneasy about calling this anime series "a classic" since people interpret that as meaning "very good". Many perceptive and articulate people have posted comments here to point out many things that are very bad about Aku no Hana. I'll put things another way. This series seems to be the kind of thing that could be memorable, notable and timeless. Decades from now, people will still be buying the Blu-ray. My guess is that almost every other anime series playing at this moment will soon be forgotten, but feel free to challenge me on that point. 50 years from now, professors teaching courses about the history of visual art will mention Aku no Hana as a key example. The crude rotoscoping. The excess use of still frames. The overlong walking scenes. The creepy faceless people. Don't be surprised if some of your comments here on MAL are remembered as well! I'll call it a timeless story, but in thirty years it will look dated as styles change. So there will be periodic re-tellings. A thousand years from now, there will still be 14-year-olds, and Aku no Hana is one story about them. |
| 9/10 for me. even if there is no season 2 |
| Ravagestorm: Your comments are very interesting. However, I don't think that any of us have any idea of the actual dollar amounts to produce Season 1 of Aku no Hana. Likewise, we have no idea how much the production company got paid. A difference of plus or minus 10% determines whether it was a good or bad business decision. A big part of the decision for Season 2 could depend on the details in the contracts for the voice and rotoscope performers. If they have the right to renegotiate their contracts for Season 2 then it would be less likely. I am just guessing here, but I think that the voice/rotoscope actor for Kasuga didn't get paid very much, since he has no past experience. He looks like he has the potential for a successful career in the industry. Very interesting to hear about the government funding a movie based on Blood-C. However, here in Canada it is normal that our federal and provincial governments financially support movies, tv shows and cartoon production. So every taxpayer here is forced to pay for the creation of this art no matter if the quality is good or bad. |
| well, the recap was not bad. it was quite well done. but this whole episode was a letdown. i expected something shocking or mindfucking. i actually expected saeki to go crazy because i always had such a weird feeling regarding her. or that nakamura and kasuga finally run away and it would be the last shot at the end of the episode. kasuga burns his book, screams that his dad is a piece of shit, nakamura hugs saeki etc. i guess that was showing what would happen during season 2? it made me a bit curious, ngl. |
| I thought it ended perfectly. They teased at where things would go from now and to solidify it had Kasuga tell Nakamura to make a contract. Even if they won't make a second season (but they probably will) it was a strong ending. 10/10 for me, I had goosebumps all the way from Kasuga reading Nakamura's 'diary' to the teasing montage. |
| Ara ara. |
| DoomCraft wrote: I thought it ended perfectly. Agreed. |
battosai-01 said: Kind of spoilerific last ep, but also kind of awesome. I guess I'm one of the only people that actually liked this 9/10. I kinda doubt theres gonna be an s2, but the end of part 1 part gives me hope. Well off to read the manga. Don't worry about it Basically, a lot of people liked this last episode, but the first commenters denigrated it. For me, a second season would transform my 9/10 in a 10/10 Let's just wait for it xD |
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| Despite i'm up-to-date with the manga, and i already know what's going to happen it was a stuning ending scene, qith all the voices overlaping one another and over the ending song... it took me 5 full minutes to start moving again. |
| I thought it ended very well. The preview felt like I was watching a much better version of School Days The ending boosted my rating to an 8/10. |
| The statement below is true. The statement above is false. |
| What? That's the last episode? Started off well, but was it worth watching in the end? Also nice one kasuga, becoming one of my least liked prots ever, you crybaby. |
| Ugh. I was already worried about how they would end this series, but they ended it in a much worse way than I had expected. Sure, it was cool that they showed what anime-viewers will never see (or at least, most likely will never see), but it lacked impact. Much like the whole series. 4/10 It had its moments, but on a whole it was rather unsatisfactory. |
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| I really liked the atmosphere in this series. Loving Nakamura - her opinion about people and the world reflects my own. Against all the hating - I liked the animation style. Looked very refreshing. Overall it's a great story for all people who can relate to Nakamura's feelings. The thing I absolutely HATED about this series was deficiency of story telling in every and each episode. It was over before it even started, and the ending of 13th episode was just trash. Overall great climate and story line, Nakamura's a great character but I feel like the entirety of the show could of been executed better. 8/10. |
| Considering the last minutes were a recap of the remaining chapters before the time skip and it said "end of part 1" I think there's a big chance for a 2nd season. Bring.it.on 8/10 |
| The "things to come" that they showed actually looked decent. I didn't think they'd be able to pull those scenes off but it looks like it would be done well. Although I doubt they'll get another season but if they do, I'd definitely watch. O well, the manga is still good. |
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| For those who didn't like the ending, how would you have ended it? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Good episode. As a whole, the anime started off pretty slow, but it got so interesting through the middle to the end. I dreaded the ending song of each episode. When I heard the music start and that creepy "hana ga saita yo..." I was always like "NO!!! not yet!!!" 8.5/10 WHERE IS MY SECOND SEASON? |
| Wow it was just a recap mixed with preview of next season... I'm glad though, they will end it with festival scene. I can't wait it will be so cool. |
| That ending.....wtf happened because I'm not even sure. As some bizarre art form, this show might do very well, but as an anime, Aku no Hana fails. It's simply too deep for me and the other average plebeians. 3/10. Would not watch season 2 if they were to make one. |
| Go ***k yourself. Polite as usual, lightXTC |
| Just because it previews a second season or hints for more content means nothing. It's happened more than once before when the last episode hypes a second season and bears no fruit. IMO I doubt it. Didn't even bother to watch it after all. |
| Whoa, I didn't expect them to show the future like that. I thought it was done beautifully, but people who haven't read the manga are probably like WTF. So, read the manga. XD Really, something about this show just makes me love it to pieces. I cannot wait for the second half. |
| So, second season is set in stone. And we also got some interesting preview. Those things really looked promising! But I didn't like the fact almost everything in this episode was flashback. Anyway, this being the first part I am giving this anime 6/10. Well, it was more like 7 for me at first but all that trolling in previous episodes (hell, backwards walk scene this time!) changed my mind in the end and I will up the vote if the second season is good. This show was really so different from other animes and it deserves its attention. So, see you next time! |
Mich666Jun 30, 2013 9:22 AM
| this started out good, but it got really slow towards the end, from what i hear though seems like there would have been some good material to adapt, if they do i am not watching until it is fully aired so i can look at raitings, or i might just read the manga |
| I did not like this episode...it was really just a recap episode for half of it and a preview of season 2 for the other half. Nyways we get another season so i guess im overall happy. |
Araby said: For those who didn't like the ending, how would you have ended it? I would have ended it with Kasuga Overall, this was a godawful last episode to a bad adaptation. So much foot dragging and time wasting in every episode they could have easily covered more of the manga. Instead, they have Kasuga walking slowly toward Nakamura's desk for the first five minutes of the episode so we have to watch every step. And that's pretty much what this anime was, dragging everything out until it lost all impact or meaning. The pacing was absolutely dreadful all the way through, so many scenes of just absolutely nothing. It's like they were too lazy to create filler scenes so they just replaced it with scenes of long walks. The atmosphere was laughably heavy handed to the point where the show was trying to stuff it down the viewers throat and just didn't work at all. And none of it meant anything or representative of anything. Instead they removed things that would have helped the viewer to understand the characters better, or changed it to give make a character come off as different than the do in the manga. However, manga or no manga this anime was a waste of time of effort and there's no way this horseshit is getting a second season. last episode 1 out of 10 for being a barely coherent mess and over all the series is a 3 out of 10 for taking a good concept and ruining it. |
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| Either the last few minutes was a preview for part 2 or they ran out of time. Still a piece of shit that for some reason I couldn't drop... |
| I don't care if everyone else hates this. It's a piece of shit and I love it. I need a second season. |
| Kinda disappointed when he opened the door to reveal a pretty average room. |
| I don't care that people hated the art. I don't care that some episodes were painfully slow. I don't care that it's not an ordinary anime that has a strange concept. I don't care that people hated it in general. This anime was one of the most beautiful fucking animes I have ever seen and I don't care if people think otherwise. I truly cannot wait for what's to come because that's when the manga truly gets good. I highly doubt they're ending it all here. |
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