| My family didn't teach me any religion.I was merely born in this family which followed a certain religion.I have the independence to chose whatever I want to believe. But I do believe in the religion that I was born into.I do doubt it and question it at some points,but I have faith in it's morals and principles.'Cause it offers me some most logical explanations that I would have had a hard time finding by myself. |
| Only that science is a great and the best of all sciences, the study of which frees man from all kinds of miseries. |
| I was raised in a house with no religion because my mom has no religion she believes in, we celebrate holidays like Christmas just because i like the decorations and the presents, so you can say i believe and follow what my family taught me |
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| Parents are Atheist and i'm Christian :T |
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Maahi said: My family didn't teach me any religion.I was merely born in this family which followed a certain religion.I have the independence to chose whatever I want to believe. But I do believe in the religion that I was born into.I do doubt it and question it at some points,but I have faith in it's morals and principles.'Cause it offers me some most logical explanations that I would have had a hard time finding by myself. Same here. I guess I could say that I do believe in the values of my religion, but in the end, it's only a guide for me on how to act upon a situation. Though some people do follow religion blindly or maybe just completely shun it because it seems too ridiculous, I find myself in the group with the right amount of belief and doubt. Religion is something that helps me build my own personal philosophy in life, other than my own experiences. There's nothing wrong with believing anyway, as long as your belief doesn't lead you to doing what is against "goodness," according to the norms of society. But then again, it's really hard to defend religion because of some extremists who really do treat it as a law. |
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Battlechili1 said: BatoKusanagi said: ReligionS existed before the bible, not god or Christianity. Christianity you say comes from The Bible, but consider this: Someone created The Bible, yes? And where did that person get his ideas from? Is it not perhaps possible that someone witnessed Jesus's teachings, in fact multiple people, and they passed on teachings and ideas by word of mouth? And the idea of God may have come from people just sitting and thinking about how the world and everything as they are may have come into existence? Something can't come from nothing. Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy. There are exceptions to this law of course, however the existence of the universe can't just form from currently existing scientific laws. Someone could also notice this and determine God's existence. Also, didn't Judaism exist before there was any Bible at all? If so, then they believed in God before there was The Bible. Where the ideas in bible came from? In the case of Judaism, which pre-dates Christianity, it came from older polytheistic religions and no it didn't exist before the bible because it's based on the books Christians would call "the old testament", for the most part. The general idea of a god(with a lower case "g") may come from just thinking about where everything might come from, you couldn't get to any god in particular from just that. That'd make you a deist instead of theist. As for a scientific perspective on the origin of the universe you might want to check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo |
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NickyCharisma said: RandomChampion said: If a parent gives his child a gun, and tells the child to go play outside, who are responsible if the child shoots and kills someone? If God gives man free will, and man uses the free will to do "bad" (according to whatever religious doctrine), who is responsible for the bad occurring? The child is responsible. Another analogy would be... say you were given a new car for your birthday by your parents. And because it was your birthday, you decide to go drinking. Later that night you are involved in an accident (don't worry, no one was injured). Whoever is deemed responsible will have to pay the damages. So is it going to be you or your parents fronting the bill? What happened to the rest of my post lol. However, are you actually saying that only the child is responsible...the parents are free from responsibility of any results, even though they gave lesser-qualified individuals a firearm? Your teenage drunk driving analogy doesnt hold....assuming the teenager has a license - the same license the parents posses and therefore the same qualification as the parents - the teenager and the parents have the same level of qualification. That's like saying God and humans have the same judgement regarding actions....except you say God is only capable of good, while man is capable of both good and bad. In any case, the same applies - if humans really did have the power to act outside of the jurisdiction of God, then God wouldnt be omnipotent (and arguably omnipresent)....contradicting the definition of God. If you just want to drop the subject, though, just forget then. |
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| What I said on the first page is kinda stupid, forget what I said at the first page. I doubted my religion because logic makes more sense. And that from what I know, religion is made from people who don't know how the world started. I'm an agnostic atheist now. |
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| They don't believe in The Shield, so no. |
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-ketchup- said: I don't get why being an atheist is cool. It's kinda stupid if a person does that, I dislike hypocrites.Some people claim they're atheists just to be cool, everyone's ashamed to admit. |
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| raised christian, turned atheist. |
-ketchup- said: Some people claim they're atheists just to be cool, everyone's ashamed to admit. If there ashamed of their religion maybe they don't really belive in it, |
“It’s fascinating. You know all these words, and they’re all English, but when you string them together into sentences, they just don’t make any sense.” |
| There are a lot of things from my religion into that are just plain illogical and there are times when I want to tear my hair out because of the crazy things that the "hardcore" people from my religion does but I do think there are some things in life that only faith can pull you through. So, I don't really subscribe to my religion but it's sort of nice to just have it...there. Like a comfort blanket or a reliable rebound person. |
| IF YOU DON’T SHIP MY OTP, I SWEAR TO GOD I’ll be okay with that. IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE STUFF THAT I LIKE, I’M GONNA respect the fact that you have your own taste. |
| My parents are Muslim. I am Muslim and my sons and daughters will be Muslim. |
| "Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that" |
| I believe. Not every single thing though. |
| Forever lost. |
Goryo said: SlothieSloth said: NickyCharisma said: SlothieSloth said: NickyCharisma said: You've come such a long way from back when I tried to teach you how to quote, sob sob, they grow up so fast.EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING! SlothieSloth has said something nice to me. MAL magic just happened, folks.  That pic is fake sloths can't talk baka. Rape sloth's are special. Moonless97 said: Depending on your religion wouldn't that make it blasphemy?I believe. Not every single thing though. |
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| Raised Muslim in a self-proclaimed full-Muslim country (I doubt it is, though). I had my phase where I questioned the religion, but all in all, I fully believe in the teachings of Islam. I'll teach my children the teachings of Islam but whether to believe them or not will be up to them. |
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| Parents taught me nothing, except not to lie. |
| I was raised in a family that never really placed any importance on those kinds of beliefs. I was always told to go for what genuinely interested me, and once I started to study a variety of different spiritual subjects and have some pretty strange experiences I came to the conclusion that God was real. I follow the teachings of the Vedic scriptures as they make perfect sense philosophically. The Bhagavad Gita is one of the most beautiful books I have ever read. |
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Seikunai said: -ketchup- said: I don't get why being an atheist is cool. It's kinda stupid if a person does that, I dislike hypocrites.Some people claim they're atheists just to be cool, everyone's ashamed to admit. Well people on the Internet are mostly atheists, (I guess ?) so it's probably to feel part of the group, or because you'd be afraid to hear other people tell you you're stupid for believing in God, and how religion is stupid and stuff. So there are the hypocrites, and those who are afraid. |
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Chakaara said: Very good explanations. o-oSeikunai said: -ketchup- said: I don't get why being an atheist is cool. It's kinda stupid if a person does that, I dislike hypocrites.Some people claim they're atheists just to be cool, everyone's ashamed to admit. Well people on the Internet are mostly atheists, (I guess ?) so it's probably to feel part of the group, or because you'd be afraid to hear other people tell you you're stupid for believing in God, and how religion is stupid and stuff. So there are the hypocrites, and those who are afraid. |
| My family is catholic and I attended a catholic elementary school, but now I am an atheist. Come to think of it, I don't exactly remember when or why I changed. |
| Lol, Why can't people comprehend that not everyone is religious o_o ''everyone believes in god, they just don't wanna admit it'' haha, apparently I'm not aware of this myself! Seriously, I don't care if you're religious or not, but don't force it to other people, I wouldn't care less. Also, by what means I'm a hypocrite for not believing in god? You're just making fools of yourselves u_u |
natssuu said: Lol, Why can't people comprehend that not everyone is religious o_o ''everyone believes in god, they just don't wanna admit it'' haha, apparently I'm not aware of this myself! Seriously, I don't care if you're religious or not, but don't force it to other people, I wouldn't care less. Also, by what means I'm a hypocrite for not believing in god? You're just making fools of yourselves u_u You might want to quote whoever it was that said that. |
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MitchD said: natssuu said: Lol, Why can't people comprehend that not everyone is religious o_o ''everyone believes in god, they just don't wanna admit it'' haha, apparently I'm not aware of this myself! Seriously, I don't care if you're religious or not, but don't force it to other people, I wouldn't care less. Also, by what means I'm a hypocrite for not believing in god? You're just making fools of yourselves u_u You might want to quote whoever it was that said that. Seeing those kind of statements so goddamn often that there's no need to quote a specific person |
| a: hey man, I'm an atheist. b: so... what else is new? /sarcasm I'm an atheist, but I believe atheists in general, or about 90% of them, are pathetic little ... things. That's also why I struggle when I identify myself as one, since I'm not an adherent of any existing religion, nor do I like to be wishy-washy and bipolar like agnostics are. Since I can't find a religion which perfectly fits my views, I was even thinking of creating my own... ANYTHING TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THE ATHE-RETARDS. Hating/disregarding religion because it's in many ways non-scientific or illogical, or hating/disregarding religion because that's what the cool kids do, is probably the very last thing our lost, brain-washed, consumeristic, individualistic, idiotic, ignorant, confused society needs... ups, forgot "society" is an improper word... "group of individuals". |
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MitchD said: ... have some pretty strange experiences I came to the conclusion that God was real. It's hard to bring up religious experiences and have people still think you sane. I don't get why the automatic response to these are "chemical imbalance in the brain." |
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| What I think about religions in general: Atheists Oh, hey, look, I am an atheist! You are christian? Or, your little brain-washed stupid kid! Hahaha! Look at my, I am so cool, I am atheist! Hahahahaha! Agnostic I do think that God exists but in my opinion God doesn't exists is anyone getting what I am saying? Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Not real christians Hey, we are christians! I mean, we never go to the church, we ignore the bible, we make jokes about Jesus, but I am christian! I am evangelic. |
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NickyCharisma said: MitchD said: ... have some pretty strange experiences I came to the conclusion that God was real. It's hard to bring up religious experiences and have people still think you sane. I don't get why the automatic response to these are "chemical imbalance in the brain." It works like this: Guy dies in a hospital. "Oh, God is so unfair, he doesn't exists" Guy was in a hospital, hes disease had no cure, but he suddenly woke up cured. "Oh, the doctor is magic, the hospital is magic, medicine and science are so great" This is how our world works. |
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lupadim said: It works like this: Guy dies in a hospital. "Oh, God is so unfair, he doesn't exists" Guy was in a hospital, hes disease had no cure, but he suddenly woke up cured. "Oh, the doctor is magic, the hospital is magic, medicine and science are so great" This is how our world works. While this is a generalization, I believe it to be more or less true. I will say that it is hard to believe, especially when things get rough. |
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lupadim said: Agnostic I do think that God exists but in my opinion God doesn't exists is anyone getting what I am saying? Agnostic means you don't proclaim to know. You can be an agnostic christian, or an agnostic atheist. Or you can be a gnostic christian, or a gnostic atheist. Agnostic Christian: I don't know if god exists, but I believe god exists. Agnostic Atheist: I don't know if any gods exist, but I don't believe they exist. Gnostic Christian: I know god exists. Gnostic Atheist: I know god doesn't exist. Do you get it now? lupadim said: NickyCharisma said: MitchD said: ... have some pretty strange experiences I came to the conclusion that God was real. It's hard to bring up religious experiences and have people still think you sane. I don't get why the automatic response to these are "chemical imbalance in the brain." It works like this: Guy dies in a hospital. "Oh, God is so unfair, he doesn't exists" Guy was in a hospital, hes disease had no cure, but he suddenly woke up cured. "Oh, the doctor is magic, the hospital is magic, medicine and science are so great" This is how our world works. More like: Doctor operates for 11 hours to save a man's life, he makes it, and the family says it's a miracle and thanks god for saving him. But if he doesn't make it, they don't blame god for killing him. If anyone gets blamed, it's the doctor. Because anything shitty that happens is always met with the same pathetic excuse... "God works in mysterious ways!" |
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Vinter said: More like: Doctor operates for 11 hours to save a man's life, he makes it, and the family says it's a miracle and thanks god for saving him. But if he doesn't make it, they don't blame god for killing him. If anyone gets blamed, it's the doctor. Because anything shitty that happens is always met with the same pathetic excuse... "God works in mysterious ways!" I think we can all agree that the pendulum swings both ways. |
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lupadim said: Agnostic This subject is too controversial....maybe I'll be safe up here on this fence. ftfy |
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Vinter said: couldn't agree more.More like: Doctor operates for 11 hours to save a man's life, he makes it, and the family says it's a miracle and thanks god for saving him. But if he doesn't make it, they don't blame god for killing him. If anyone gets blamed, it's the doctor. Because anything shitty that happens is always met with the same pathetic excuse... "God works in mysterious ways!"[ |
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lupadim said: Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Elaborate. |
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Vinter said: Agnostic means you don't proclaim to know. You can be an agnostic christian, or an agnostic atheist. Or you can be a gnostic christian, or a gnostic atheist. Agnostic Christian: I don't know if god exists, but I believe god exists. Agnostic Atheist: I don't know if any gods exist, but I don't believe they exist. Gnostic Christian: I know god exists. Gnostic Atheist: I know god doesn't exist. Do you get it now? Isn't there a form of agnosticism which acknowledges God exists, but questions whether or not he created an objective way for us to find our way back to him? i.e. Religion. |
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lupadim said: Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Yeah, that's a pretty narrow minded view on Islam. Likening the Muslims you see on T.V. to genuine practitioners of Islamic faith is just the same as likening fanatic Christian zealots to people who genuinely follow the message of Christ. In conclusion. It doesn't matter what you believe or what designation you carry. There are retards everywhere who misrepresent things which are actually good. I for one practice Vaishnavism. Our spiritual practice is to meditate and to feed less fortunate and fortunate people alike sanctified vegetarian food (animal killing is forbidden), but there are people who call themselves Vaishnavas that molest children and sleep with prostitutes. That doesn't mean my religion is bad, it means people like you don't know how to exercise discernment. |
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MitchD said: lupadim said: Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Yeah, that's a pretty narrow minded view on Islam. Likening the Muslims you see on T.V. to genuine practitioners of Islamic faith is just the same as likening fanatic Christian zealots to people who genuinely follow the message of Christ. And what leads you to believe that they're the ones who are in the wrong? |
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MitchD said: Vinter said: Agnostic means you don't proclaim to know. You can be an agnostic christian, or an agnostic atheist. Or you can be a gnostic christian, or a gnostic atheist. Agnostic Christian: I don't know if god exists, but I believe god exists. Agnostic Atheist: I don't know if any gods exist, but I don't believe they exist. Gnostic Christian: I know god exists. Gnostic Atheist: I know god doesn't exist. Do you get it now? Isn't there a form of agnosticism which acknowledges God exists, but questions whether or not he created an objective way for us to find our way back to him? i.e. Religion. Agnostic simply means lacking knowledge, whereas Gnostic means possessing knowledge. If there is a group of people who acknowledge a deity, that has nothing to do with agnosticism. When it comes to the "objective way back to god" they would be classified as agnostic on that particular issue, but on the existance of a god, nothing you've said has told me whether or not they claim that they know that god does exist, or that they simply believe a god exists, but they're not ruling out the possibility that there is no god. If they say there might be a god, and there might not be a god. And that they don't know which is true, but they believe there is one, then they're agnostic theists. However, if they say that they know there is a god, then they are gnostic theists. |
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CommanderJenny said: MitchD said: lupadim said: Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Yeah, that's a pretty narrow minded view on Islam. Likening the Muslims you see on T.V. to genuine practitioners of Islamic faith is just the same as likening fanatic Christian zealots to people who genuinely follow the message of Christ. And what leads you to believe that they're the ones who are in the wrong? Because what the media tells people about Islam is very far from the truth. It might be true about extremists (I don't know and I don't care either), but not the religion itself. |
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| You can't be gnostic, you don't have any answers, who calls himself a gnostic atheist or gnostic theist can smash their faces on the floor. Who calls himself simply gnostic or agnostic should also smash their faces on the floor. You can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist, realistically. |
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Immahnoob said: You can't be gnostic, you don't have any answers, who calls himself a gnostic atheist or gnostic theist can smash their faces on the floor. Who calls himself simply gnostic or agnostic should also smash their faces on the floor. You can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist, realistically. True, but some people are arrogant enough to state their beliefs as fact. Because they're so far into it that they honestly believe that they know one way or another. |
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Immahnoob said: You can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist, realistically. Most people have some level of doubt, you don't need to identify as agnostic atheist/theist. Agnostic Theist: - Theist Agnostic Atheist: - Atheist Gnostic Theist: - Arrogant prick Gnostic Atheist: - Arrogant prick |
| Yeah, but some people love to add that Agnostic there for some reason. And yeah, stating your beliefs as facts is fucked up. |
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lupadim said: What I think about religions in general: Atheists Oh, hey, look, I am an atheist! You are christian? Or, your little brain-washed stupid kid! Hahaha! Look at my, I am so cool, I am atheist! Hahahahaha! Agnostic I do think that God exists but in my opinion God doesn't exists is anyone getting what I am saying? Muslim Hey, we have a fair religion, we are fair with everyone, our religion is the most fair one in the world, women are treated like shit in our country but hey Not real christians Hey, we are christians! I mean, we never go to the church, we ignore the bible, we make jokes about Jesus, but I am christian! A lot of what you say is stupid. -First of all, of which country are you talking about for Muslims when you say "our country" ? -Second of all, that's not atheists, you're probably talking about the kid who discovered internet and porn and thought he could do whatever he wanted. -Third of all, agnostic means you admit the evidence that someone or something created all this shit, but that he didn't care a split second if we masturbated to horse porn or not. |
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Chakaara said: -Third of all, agnostic means you admit the evidence that someone or something created all this shit, but that he didn't care a split second if we masturbated to horse porn or not. Now explain me the difference between this and God. I could make a wall of text talking about how sins doesn't matter once you accept Christian, but when you accept Christian you will automatically try to not do such sins, but no one would read anyway. |
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| That's wrong, agnosticism can be either agnostic atheism or agnostic theism. Agnostic would mean that you do not have the knowledge to acknowledge a god or not, but that does not work as something either exists or doesn't, so agnostic atheist believes that we do not have knowledge to acknowledge gods or not but he believes they do not exist and agnostic theist believes that we do not have the knowledge to acknowledge gods or not but he believes that they do exist. TL;DC Read it slowly. |
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