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Jun 29, 2013 8:57 AM

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I'm having doubts over it. Probably because I think too critically.

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Jun 29, 2013 9:02 AM

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My answer would be no. I was raised Catholic, but I stopped believing in God at some point.
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Jun 29, 2013 9:03 AM

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I believe in my religion. That's all I'll say on this
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Jun 29, 2013 9:06 AM
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Believed it back then.
Now I doubt it to a certain point due to science being more logical and contradicting religion.
 
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Jun 29, 2013 9:07 AM

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My answer would be no. I was raised Catholic, but I stopped believing in God at some point.
Same. I began to doubt because I feel like God didn't influence me or something. And that if there was a God, why is the world evil? And about Jesus.. If he saved us all from sin, does that mean Hitler, Hussein and Mussolini go to heaven?
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Jun 29, 2013 9:09 AM

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My parents chose my religion when I was born so I can't really argue with them since I can't talk. And I'm only 19, I think I'll make a decision in changing my religion by the time I finish college I think.
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LanaNi said:
Believed it back then.
Now I doubt it to a certain point due to science being more logical and contradicting religion.


I agree with this as well. I believe but being a history student and the curious soul I am, my mind is tearing apart.

It's like I always wonder, why they say God be taking care of each and everyone of us and people be in africa and other parts of the world dying from starvation etc. I wonder if they're to be made an example of or something or God just favors the richer people.

Or it's all coincidence.

Either way, I'll stop ramble on like I know what I'm talking about now.
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Jun 29, 2013 9:11 AM

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Araby said:
My answer would be no. I was raised Catholic, but I stopped believing in God at some point.
Same. I began to doubt because I feel like God didn't influence me or something. And that if there was a God, why is the world evil? And about Jesus.. If he saved us all from sin, does that mean Hitler, Hussein and Mussolini go to heaven?


Why does a hypothetical God have to keep the world good? He can do whatever the fuck he wants since he is well...God
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Jun 29, 2013 9:15 AM

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Well he can do what he wants, yes, but the God that Catholics knew is kind and keeps the world in order. And I think that's his only purpose.
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Jun 29, 2013 9:23 AM

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Seikunai said:
My parents chose my religion when I was born so I can't really argue with them since I can't talk. And I'm only 19, I think I'll make a decision in changing my religion by the time I finish college I think.
That shouldnt stop you in believing what you want to, just dont be verbal about it to your parents. A friend of mine had his parents force hindu on him when hes actually a heavy athiest, he just has to hide it from his parents. So believe in whatever religion or belief regardless of what your parents think

Seikunai said:
Well he can do what he wants, yes, but the God that Catholics knew is kind and keeps the world in order. And I think that's his only purpose.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Jun 29, 2013 9:29 AM

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I always find it funny how being educated is all things evil to Christians, I mean when you go out to university and be educated and knowledgeable on the facts of the past, you've been brainwashed.

Well this is why enlightenment occurred anyway, onto secular things.
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Jun 29, 2013 9:41 AM

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I'm not sure I follow SlothieSloth. I was making reference to the fact that I have unintentionally posted my religious affiliation in every discussion I've been a part of this week. When you all see me, you know exactly what I'm going to say.
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Jun 29, 2013 10:08 AM

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I clarified the topic title and cleaned up a bit. Please stay on topic or don't post at all.

Religion is not something that should be imposed upon anyone, but when you believe that something is true (even wrongly) then you would want to share that with your children. What people tell you and what is truth are often completely opposites, and you should make your decisions based on demonstrable facts and your own observations.
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Jun 29, 2013 10:10 AM

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Do I believe the religion my family taught me? No, but I doubt they do either, since they never go to church, read the Bible, pray, or anything else religious. I'm just the one who stopped pretending to believe.
 
Jun 29, 2013 10:12 AM

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My dad's catholic but he never took me to church or anything. Instead, he let me decide on my own when I grow up.
 
Jun 29, 2013 10:14 AM

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When I started to read empiricist philosophy, my doubts grew up as much that I was unable to still believe in God.
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Jun 29, 2013 10:17 AM

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LanaNi said:
Believed it back then.
Now I doubt it to a certain point due to science being more logical and contradicting religion.


I agree with this as well. I believe but being a history student and the curious soul I am, my mind is tearing apart.

It's like I always wonder, why they say God be taking care of each and everyone of us and people be in africa and other parts of the world dying from starvation etc. I wonder if they're to be made an example of or something or God just favors the richer people.

Or it's all coincidence.

Either way, I'll stop ramble on like I know what I'm talking about now.


Can the Abrahamic God create an object so heavy that even he cannot lift it? If he can't, then it means he isnt all-powerful. If he can, then it means he isn't all-powerful.

Basically, God would have to be more powerful than himself....which is impossible and contradicts the whole thing.

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A friend of mine had his parents force hindu on him when hes actually a heavy athiest, he just has to hide it from his parents. So believe in whatever religion or belief regardless of what your parents think


I agree with bold

However, I wonder if your friend knows that original Hinduism is actually atheistic
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Jun 29, 2013 10:18 AM

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My parents consider themselves Catholics although we almost never go to church and religous holidays like Good Friday, we don't celebrate them but I do have doubts about the Religion itself.
 
Jun 29, 2013 10:23 AM

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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.
 
Jun 29, 2013 10:25 AM
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No. But I believe this is a choice due to being forced to follow the religion making me rebel against it...

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Jun 29, 2013 10:28 AM

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I used to sortof-believe in christianity when I was a kid. But every night instead of praying I would question why its 'morals' were more harmful than good.
Eventually I took education to the knee and realized how stupid it all was.
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Jun 29, 2013 10:30 AM

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No I guess, because I was never "taught" a religion.

My parents only recently started going to church. And they treat it more as a social thing than a religious thing.
 
Jun 29, 2013 10:34 AM

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My parents only recently started going to church. And they treat it more as a social thing than a religious thing.


In medieval times, a church was often used as the place of gathering, parties, and feasts. It was as much a social event as a religious one. Then the priest would bring his home made beer and everyone gets shit faced drunk. Good times. Your parents knows whats up.
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Jun 29, 2013 10:35 AM

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When we are young we will accept what our parents tell us, but when we learn enough about the world we find contradictions. Many children believe in Santa Claus for example until they discover a traditional deception. Is it possible that Santa really exists? Disproving something is very difficult, but the facts from history provide widespread evidence of different folklore that evolved into the idea, and laws of math and physics contradict the magical stories of him, and a sudden popularization by retail stores. When it becomes clear that a parent or the delivery guy brought your gifts, you lose some of that blind faith and start to think for yourself. You'll find that the world and nature is actually more spectacular than any human literature can imagine.

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Jun 29, 2013 10:43 AM

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My mother is hardly what i would call religious, i don't even know if she believes in god. so i wouldn't say my family has 'taught' me any religion and i can't say i believe in any or am even slightly interested in them.
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i grew up dutch reformed but even as a young child i didn't believe a second of it. cynic out of the womb i guess ^^

i think if there is a god, people are relying on him/her too much. perhaps that the world has been given to us, and its ours to take care of. pray all you want but pain, suffering, disease, hate - it will all continue
 
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I was raised Protestant, but went to Catholic school for most of elementary and middle school. There was a point where I did actually believe in god, I became more and more skeptical as I read all the BS in the bible and started learning more about the world. So I pretended to be Christian for a while but when I was like 16, I just said fuck it.

I'm pretty much an atheist at this point minus claiming to know that no deity exists. I don't have any good reason to suspect the existence of any deities, but it's not like I can disprove the possibility. I guess that makes me an agnostic atheist. 19 atm and still haven't told my parents, although they probably suspect. I won't go out of my way to tell them since I know it'll brew up a shitstorm in my house, but I'll tell them the second they ask since I don't lie about this kind of stuff.
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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.
Yes, raising children to be religious is automatically "brainwashing."
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Jun 29, 2013 11:09 AM

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Even though I was raised Catholic and we went to Church almost every week, I don't really think I ever believed in God even for a little while. Of course, I told my parents that I did, but I never prayed when I was by myself and I never really thought about God as some being watching over me or anything. In church, I was always more concerned with doing what everyone else was doing, than communicating with God or whatever. So when I was about 16 or 17 I realized something and started telling everyone including my parents that I was an atheist and that even though I had claimed to believe in God before I was really just saying what I thought would make everyone happy. My mom was pretty cool about it, as she was pretty much faking it "just so we were exposed to it", but my dad got weird about it, and started saying things like he was worried I wouldn't go to heaven and stuff like that.
 
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My family raised me to live for myself and for those you cherish.
 
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Araby said:
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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.
Yes, raising children to be religious is automatically "brainwashing."


I don't get why people view being raised to be religious is ncessarily such a bad thing. First of all, being raised in a religious household does not necessarily mean fanatical bigot or something, no mater how illogical some doctrine might be. Second of all, i'd bet that most people who see Abrahamic religion as illogical bogus still have their own beliefs (be them political, economic, general philosophical, etc)....in fact, on "believes" in things like libertarianism, socialism, capitalism, etc. I'm sure that many of these people believe that there are such things as (objective) "good" and "bad" (or evil). although, I do admit, that believe in your own truth - in something that you truly feel from withing yourself/found for yourself - is not the same as as blindly following prescribed arbitrary concepts that are touted and believed to be absolute truth.
 
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My parents didn't raise me with religion, although both of them are Catholic, and my grandparents are EXTREMELY Catholic, however they never spoke ill of me when I finally decided I would like to identify as an Atheist nor have they ever spoke ill of any other religion. I am actually very grateful that they allowed me to make my own choice on things like religion.
 
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Nope. My family is largely Baptist, but I went Agnostic-Atheist around the age of 7 or so.
 
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Nope. My family is largely Baptist, but I went Agnostic-Atheist around the age of 7 or so.


Wow, I'm impressed that you could come to that as early as age 7.
 
Jun 29, 2013 11:36 AM

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I believe in the religion my parents taught me, but not exactly the same way. I'm more laid back on some topics, and I disagree with others. But I still believe in the absolutes of my religion.
 
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Seikunai said:
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My answer would be no. I was raised Catholic, but I stopped believing in God at some point.
Same. I began to doubt because I feel like God didn't influence me or something. And that if there was a God, why is the world evil? And about Jesus.. If he saved us all from sin, does that mean Hitler, Hussein and Mussolini go to heaven?


So you know nothing about God. This kind of person that says "I was christian but I am not anymore because this this and this" while "this this and this" is all bullshit.

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God didn't influence me or something


Yes, you are alive, you have food to eat, you probably have a lot of money for being able to access a computer and you have a family, but you still think God didn't did anything for you, right?

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And that if there was a God, why is the world evil?


If there is light, why there has to be darkness? The answer is: Actually, there is no darkness. What exists is... When light is missing, you see darkness. In our world, we can see the same thing. The bad things we see at our society were not exactly created and thrown there by God, obviously. Satan is behind this, but how can I start speaking about Satan to someone that doesn't even believe in God?

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And about Jesus.. If he saved us all from sin, does that mean Hitler, Hussein and Mussolini go to heaven?


If they truly repented before dying, yes, they will go to heaven. But now see that there is no way Hitler, Hussein or Mussolin could have truly repented. Do you think Hitler would, before dying, say "Oh, Lord, please, forgive my sins! I can't believe at what I did, I killed millions of innocent people! Oh, please, forgive me! Please! I will never take any human life again!" ? Do you think this would be possible? If Hitler did truly repented and accepted Jesus before dying, yes, he is at heaven now. This happens because it doesn't matter what you are doing, your actions will not save your ass. You need to ask Jesus for being save.
 
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I was raised a Christian, and I choose to stick with my beliefs.

That being said, many people seem surprised when they find out this fact.
 
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RandomChampion said:
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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.
Yes, raising children to be religious is automatically "brainwashing."


I don't get why people view being raised to be religious is ncessarily such a bad thing. First of all, being raised in a religious household does not necessarily mean fanatical bigot or something, no mater how illogical some doctrine might be. Second of all, i'd bet that most people who see Abrahamic religion as illogical bogus still have their own beliefs (be them political, economic, general philosophical, etc)....in fact, on "believes" in things like libertarianism, socialism, capitalism, etc. I'm sure that many of these people believe that there are such things as (objective) "good" and "bad" (or evil). although, I do admit, that believe in your own truth - in something that you truly feel from withing yourself/found for yourself - is not the same as as blindly following prescribed arbitrary concepts that are touted and believed to be absolute truth.

I can't speak for everyone raised in a religious household, but I don't appreciate the fact that I was brought up to believe that my family's religious beliefs were the only correct answer. I was discouraged from doing or reading things that my parents though went against Christianity. I was not encouraged to explore other view points in general really. My parents are both conservative capitalists--one very socially conservative, the other not so much--and they don't appreciate my leftist politics.

I don't know whether my Christian upbringing would actually constitute brainwashing, but I definitely feel it was at least not a positive experience for me. I remember being put in a Christian day care and having to watch films about the crucifixion with real life acting when I was like 5. I didn't know what was the point, I just saw a guy being tortured and having his limbs nailed to a piece of wood. It was somewhat traumatizing. When you're 5, you're not able to understand logic or reasoning too much, and the story of Jesus's crucifixion isn't very logical to begin with. And I think the churches know that, they just show it to kids as a way of scaring them into submission. That's how I see it anyway, and that's why I hold a grudge. The only good thing that came out of my religious upbringing was that it helped me learned that it's usually not easy being skeptical or free-thinking in this world.
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Lupa's post is probably going to start something. Call it a gut feeling experience.

Religion was never in my family's genes, some family members sought it out, but it was never something for me. Although I don't see why one would hate being raised this way, as long as your parents aren't too stubborn. You could always just explain it isn't the thing for you.

That said, when you have stubborn parents and you don't believe in a God, your childhood is a rough ride (from friends' experiences).
 
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Yes I do, and I had doubt about it too, I guess that what makes a good believer is doubt at some point.
 
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My family isn't religious. I guess you could call my mother a deist and my grandmother an agnostic. They weren't atheist nor theist so I had no bias and was able to figure out my beliefs impartially. My family never spoke about religion or God either. Well, I don't have beliefs, so I guess you could say I was able to figure out my own role in this fanatic world.

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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.

You're not any different than those raised Christian. You grew up on bias. So are you really even an atheist or are you just tagging along your parent's beliefs?

 
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In the religion, yes, I'm still Christian. Although I'm thinking of changing denominations from the one that my family practices in. Actually now that I think about it, I'm the most religious person in my family. Ha, "most religious." Like it's a competition.
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My mom is Christian my dad is atheist so I guess I'm agnostic
 
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I'm not sure I follow SlothieSloth. I was making reference to the fact that I have unintentionally posted my religious affiliation in every discussion I've been a part of this week. When you all see me, you know exactly what I'm going to say.
Is it not every christians job to spread the faith so everyone can bask in his glory?
 
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I always believed in God and stuff like that, I was raised with Catholic morals and still go to a Catholic high school, but now I don't believe it anymore. I think I just realized that there isn't someone in the sky that's going to take us to somewhere above the universe. I just on't really believe that as much as I would like to. I also realized that a lot of what the Bible says is contradicting to what the church says today.
My family isn't really religious at all anyways, I was only put in a Catholic school because of the good morals they teach.
 
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It is rather annoying when people say they are part of a religion but do not practise it at all -_-
 
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I'm not sure I follow SlothieSloth. I was making reference to the fact that I have unintentionally posted my religious affiliation in every discussion I've been a part of this week. When you all see me, you know exactly what I'm going to say.
Is it not every christians job to spread the faith so everyone can bask in his glory?

I don't think every Christian wants to be hated though.

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My mom is Christian my dad is atheist so I guess I'm agnostic

lolwut? Beliefs don't work by blending the beliefs of your parents.
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I guess I'm still a Catholic, despite not even going to church anymore.

I don't care much about religion, but I'm not agnostic or atheist.
 
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No, I think too much to be a believer.
 
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And thats why I'm glad my parents raised me as an atheist. Not like them trying to brainwash me to believe in a book that was written and rewritten thousands of times in different languages where meanings of words could've changed would've convinced me to go to church and pray to God.
Yes, raising children to be religious is automatically "brainwashing."


I don't get why people view being raised to be religious is ncessarily such a bad thing. First of all, being raised in a religious household does not necessarily mean fanatical bigot or something, no mater how illogical some doctrine might be. Second of all, i'd bet that most people who see Abrahamic religion as illogical bogus still have their own beliefs (be them political, economic, general philosophical, etc)....in fact, on "believes" in things like libertarianism, socialism, capitalism, etc. I'm sure that many of these people believe that there are such things as (objective) "good" and "bad" (or evil). although, I do admit, that believe in your own truth - in something that you truly feel from withing yourself/found for yourself - is not the same as as blindly following prescribed arbitrary concepts that are touted and believed to be absolute truth.

I can't speak for everyone raised in a religious household, but I don't appreciate the fact that I was brought up to believe that my family's religious beliefs were the only correct answer. I was discouraged from doing or reading things that my parents though went against Christianity. I was not encouraged to explore other view points in general really. My parents are both conservative capitalists--one very socially conservative, the other not so much--and they don't appreciate my leftist politics.

I don't know whether my Christian upbringing would actually constitute brainwashing, but I definitely feel it was at least not a positive experience for me. I remember being put in a Christian day care and having to watch films about the crucifixion with real life acting when I was like 5. I didn't know what was the point, I just saw a guy being tortured and having his limbs nailed to a piece of wood. It was somewhat traumatizing. When you're 5, you're not able to understand logic or reasoning too much, and the story of Jesus's crucifixion isn't very logical to begin with. And I think the churches know that, they just show it to kids as a way of scaring them into submission. That's how I see it anyway, and that's why I hold a grudge. The only good thing that came out of my religious upbringing was that it helped me learned that it's usually not easy being skeptical or free-thinking in this world.


There's a reason as to why i added "necessarily".

In any case, obviously there is the aspect of divinity and higher authority in many religions. However, there is also the aspect of how to live your life.

You say your parents discrouraged you from doing and reading things that went against Christianity. What is the difference between that, and parents discouraging their child from doing things they say are bad. A non-religious parent can tell a child, "stealing is bad" and might prevent the child from watching "Gone in 60 Seconds" (a movie in which the protagonists are carjackers) or Ocean 11. This is not encouraging the child to explore other views, including the generally accepted view that there is no such thing as inherent"badness". Just like a religious parent might tell the child "don't steal" and "do good to others" or whatever. Nobody tells their kids "go find your own truth" or anything. That will probably just lead the kid into trouble.

There are obviously different levels of being raised religiously. But not all of them lead to fanaticism and bigotry, is what I was saing.

Regarding the movie about Jesus - I was allowed to watch rated-R movies since as long as I can remember, and I plan to let any kid of mine do the same lol
 
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