Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Tavor said: Whoa hold off on Madoka movie spoilers pls Soz, okay put in spoilers, it ain't official its just what I manged to gather from the trailer |
ElPysCongroo said: Tavor said: Whoa hold off on Madoka movie spoilers pls Soz, okay put in spoilers, it ain't official its just what I manged to gather from the trailer Oh my bad, didn't know it was from the trailer; never mind then lol |
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| haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? oh and bokurano > madoka |
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renders said: haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? The first 2 films are retelling, with new animation blah blah blah the third film is new content post series |
renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? |
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| it was good for the most part,the only things i didnt like were the characters, it was annoying that the characters were constantly dying only to get resurrected with the time travelling bullshit... other than that i liked it |
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| I'm only waiting for movie three. End of Madokaleon baby~! |
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renders said: haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? oh and bokurano > madoka Yes Not at all |
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Akito_Kinomoto said: I'm only waiting for movie three. End of Madokaleon baby~! Why MAL, why must you be amusing with Eva references, WHY! |
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NeoAnkara said: renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? that sounds like milking to me...I can't blame them dou it is popular so it makes money |
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renders said: NeoAnkara said: renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? that sounds like milking to me...I can't blame them dou it is popular so it makes money Evangelion does the same thing anyway. |
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renders said: Well it is milking.NeoAnkara said: renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? that sounds like milking to me...I can't blame them dou it is popular so it makes money |
| Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
renders said: NeoAnkara said: renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? that sounds like milking to me...I can't blame them dou it is popular so it makes money  |
ElPysCongroo said: renders said: NeoAnkara said: renders said: It add a few scene I belive for first and second. And the third movie is brand new story.haven't seen the movies?aren't they the same story or add a few scenes?or they milking the franchise as much as they can? that sounds like milking to me...I can't blame them dou it is popular so it makes money haha...gigguk xD |
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| Haha yes thats what I though of when you mentioned milking it, so I tried to find the pic gigguk used. |
| Madoka is pretty good, but I don't know if I'd call it better than Sailor Moon seeing as it borrowed pretty heavily from it, other than that I'm not too familiar with the magical girl genre. |
| I'd say Madoka Magica is better than any other magical girl anime I've seen thus far, but there's really no comparison. Heartcatch Precure thoughtfully uses magical girl tropes to create fantastic action/slice of life series with a lot of heart whereas Madoka is an intricately crafted and thought provoking tragedy that's only loosely based around the long established genre. They're both great shows but for completely different reasons. |
SeibaaHomuJun 21, 2013 6:48 AM
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renders said: but that's wrong.jpgMadoka is a desconstruction of the genre and it blows renders said: i guess those people did not watch enough shows to realise there's nothing original about this anime,just stuff from other...animes I have more experience with magical girls than you buddo. It's clear to me that Madoka was literally 2deep4u |
SeibaaHomuJun 21, 2013 6:46 AM
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Gorim said: renders said: oh and i noticed the op barely watched 17 anime so I dunno what to make of that,you remind me of people that barely watched a few shows and go from naruto to death note than go to forums calling it the best anime evar There are reasons why hype exists for certain series and that hype might last for decades. One of the reasons is luck, another one is marketing and third one is the quality of the series itself. I don't think OP is alone when Madoka is ranked 38th in MAL. For instance a series you mentioned before Kamikaze kaitou Jeanne ranked 1347th. Now I don't mean that MAL ranking means much but it is directional. Most people who have seen Madoka think that it was a great series and rate it so, where most people on MAL who have watched Jeanne never really found it to be that special. This might just mean majority has shit taste which they obviously do. I think it's a bad approach to look at Madoka in light where you analyze it for it's lack of originality. Anime rarely ever is good because of it's originality. Steins;Gate did not invent time traveling the writers have borrowed ideas from other works and science but represented in it's own way. Madoka sure has borrowed ideas from all over just like 99% of anime. Magical Girl series never were the most originality depending genre to begin with. When you will watch enough anime and start to understand japanese culture (after visiting the country few times) you'll start to understand that they are very conservative. They value refining something that has been already created by someone else over creating something entirely new themselves. They don't usually make rash decisions but like to take their time pondering all the available choices, deciding what kind of anime to make is a long process and it needs to be accepted by all members who will work with that project not just the top brass. Why most of anime is very similar and repetitive is because japanese fear making mistakes and something that has been already proven to be very good method to gain money is easily used again. Ofcourse this also creates a feeling of familiarity with the viewer. Couldn't of said it better myself. I'd go so far as to say if your going to judge anime based on originality then you might as well stop watching it entirely. The ideas are all played out already, now what is left is to put your own personal spin on these ideas. That is exactly what the creators of Madoka did, they took the known tropes of the Magical girl Genre and put their own dark spin on it, and gave the visuals and sound track to back that plot up. Its not just Anime/manga that are doing this either. Just take a look at all these super hero movies popping up; Are they original, NO, do they put their own spin on the idea, YES. Hell even Disney gets in on this re imagining idea. Take Lion King, few people know (and Disney denies that) that the origin of the story can be found in one of the first color anime to show up "Kimba the white Lion" or "Jungle Emperor." They share every thing from similar names like "Kimba" and "Simba", "Booboo" and "Scar" and even have the baboon and snooty bird. Does this take away from Lion king being a great movie, not in my opinion.  www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/ripoffs/lion2.jpg" />So really its not whether Madoka is original or not, but whether they use the existing tropes in new and interesting ways, which they accomplished. |
Gorim said: renders said: oh and i noticed the op barely watched 17 anime so I dunno what to make of that,you remind me of people that barely watched a few shows and go from naruto to death note than go to forums calling it the best anime evar There are reasons why hype exists for certain series and that hype might last for decades. One of the reasons is luck, another one is marketing and third one is the quality of the series itself. I don't think OP is alone when Madoka is ranked 38th in MAL. For instance a series you mentioned before Kamikaze kaitou Jeanne ranked 1347th. Now I don't mean that MAL ranking means much but it is directional. Most people who have seen Madoka think that it was a great series and rate it so, where most people on MAL who have watched Jeanne never really found it to be that special. This might just mean majority has shit taste which they obviously do. I think it's a bad approach to look at Madoka in light where you analyze it for it's lack of originality. Anime rarely ever is good because of it's originality. Steins;Gate did not invent time traveling the writers have borrowed ideas from other works and science but represented in it's own way. Madoka sure has borrowed ideas from all over just like 99% of anime. Magical Girl series never were the most originality depending genre to begin with. When you will watch enough anime and start to understand japanese culture (after visiting the country few times) you'll start to understand that they are very conservative. They value refining something that has been already created by someone else over creating something entirely new themselves. They don't usually make rash decisions but like to take their time pondering all the available choices, deciding what kind of anime to make is a long process and it needs to be accepted by all members who will work with that project not just the top brass. Why most of anime is very similar and repetitive is because japanese fear making mistakes and something that has been already proven to be very good method to gain money is easily used again. Ofcourse this also creates a feeling of familiarity with the viewer. Finally a logical and well thought argument.But while they do take their own spin on it it's still reallt not that great.The visuals are beautiful but the characters are bad and @Saberitsu I know I could never expect a mature answer from a kid like you,even if you have seen more shows of the genre you haven't seen more shows than me period |
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miereneronaile said: renders said: Gorim said: renders said: oh and i noticed the op barely watched 17 anime so I dunno what to make of that,you remind me of people that barely watched a few shows and go from naruto to death note than go to forums calling it the best anime evar There are reasons why hype exists for certain series and that hype might last for decades. One of the reasons is luck, another one is marketing and third one is the quality of the series itself. I don't think OP is alone when Madoka is ranked 38th in MAL. For instance a series you mentioned before Kamikaze kaitou Jeanne ranked 1347th. Now I don't mean that MAL ranking means much but it is directional. Most people who have seen Madoka think that it was a great series and rate it so, where most people on MAL who have watched Jeanne never really found it to be that special. This might just mean majority has shit taste which they obviously do. I think it's a bad approach to look at Madoka in light where you analyze it for it's lack of originality. Anime rarely ever is good because of it's originality. Steins;Gate did not invent time traveling the writers have borrowed ideas from other works and science but represented in it's own way. Madoka sure has borrowed ideas from all over just like 99% of anime. Magical Girl series never were the most originality depending genre to begin with. When you will watch enough anime and start to understand japanese culture (after visiting the country few times) you'll start to understand that they are very conservative. They value refining something that has been already created by someone else over creating something entirely new themselves. They don't usually make rash decisions but like to take their time pondering all the available choices, deciding what kind of anime to make is a long process and it needs to be accepted by all members who will work with that project not just the top brass. Why most of anime is very similar and repetitive is because japanese fear making mistakes and something that has been already proven to be very good method to gain money is easily used again. Ofcourse this also creates a feeling of familiarity with the viewer. Finally a logical and well thought argument.But while they do take their own spin on it it's still reallt not that great.The visuals are beautiful but the characters are bad and @Saberitsu I know I could never expect a mature answer from a kid like you,even if you have seen more shows of the genre you haven't seen more shows than me period Does anyone else think its fairly funny when he comments on someone finally posting a 'well thought out and logical' argument when his can basically be summed up with 'I dont like the characters, and some of you havent watched enough mahou shoujo anime to comment on this. What would be the point is writing a massive well thought text about why the characters are bad and undeveloped because they focused more on telling us about how the mahou shoujo system works and how it's fueled by evil aliens who eat lolis,it's not like the blinded fanboys will see things differently |
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renders said: miereneronaile said: renders said: Gorim said: renders said: oh and i noticed the op barely watched 17 anime so I dunno what to make of that,you remind me of people that barely watched a few shows and go from naruto to death note than go to forums calling it the best anime evar There are reasons why hype exists for certain series and that hype might last for decades. One of the reasons is luck, another one is marketing and third one is the quality of the series itself. I don't think OP is alone when Madoka is ranked 38th in MAL. For instance a series you mentioned before Kamikaze kaitou Jeanne ranked 1347th. Now I don't mean that MAL ranking means much but it is directional. Most people who have seen Madoka think that it was a great series and rate it so, where most people on MAL who have watched Jeanne never really found it to be that special. This might just mean majority has shit taste which they obviously do. I think it's a bad approach to look at Madoka in light where you analyze it for it's lack of originality. Anime rarely ever is good because of it's originality. Steins;Gate did not invent time traveling the writers have borrowed ideas from other works and science but represented in it's own way. Madoka sure has borrowed ideas from all over just like 99% of anime. Magical Girl series never were the most originality depending genre to begin with. When you will watch enough anime and start to understand japanese culture (after visiting the country few times) you'll start to understand that they are very conservative. They value refining something that has been already created by someone else over creating something entirely new themselves. They don't usually make rash decisions but like to take their time pondering all the available choices, deciding what kind of anime to make is a long process and it needs to be accepted by all members who will work with that project not just the top brass. Why most of anime is very similar and repetitive is because japanese fear making mistakes and something that has been already proven to be very good method to gain money is easily used again. Ofcourse this also creates a feeling of familiarity with the viewer. Finally a logical and well thought argument.But while they do take their own spin on it it's still reallt not that great.The visuals are beautiful but the characters are bad and @Saberitsu I know I could never expect a mature answer from a kid like you,even if you have seen more shows of the genre you haven't seen more shows than me period Does anyone else think its fairly funny when he comments on someone finally posting a 'well thought out and logical' argument when his can basically be summed up with 'I dont like the characters, and some of you havent watched enough mahou shoujo anime to comment on this. What would be the point is writing a massive well thought text about why the characters are bad and undeveloped because they focused more on telling us about how the mahou shoujo system works and how it's fueled by evil aliens who eat lolis,it's not like the blinded fanboys will see things differently Cool story bro. |
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| What is the actual problem with the characters in Madoka magica, anyway? |
| Apparently critics are looking for originality. *keels over and laughs* OMG STEINS GATE COPIED STAR TREK WTF! |
| renders just takes a long while to render his thoughts like Adobe After Effects CS6 running on 1GB of RAM trying to render 1080p worth of video footage. |
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| I don't have anything against lolis^ and to give a proper argument about the characters I'd have to rewatch the show since I've seen it like a year ago and I can't remember everything but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version...or was it the kristen stewart anime version? |
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renders said: but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version... I..I can't. No. Stop it. Please. |
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renders said: I don't have anything against lolis^ and to give a proper argument about the characters I'd have to rewatch the show since I've seen it like a year ago and I can't remember everything but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version...or was it the kristen stewart anime version? trolololo |
Tavor said: renders said: but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version... I..I can't. No. Stop it. Please. bwahahahaha |
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| obviously madoka is the female version of Eren in SNK derps |
renders said: Tavor said: renders said: but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version... I..I can't. No. Stop it. Please. bwahahahaha Shinji was a whiny bitch that wanted to avoid conflict. Madoka wanted to eagerly help her friends while giving it some serious thought. She is (not) the female version of Shinji. |
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Tavor said: renders said: Tavor said: renders said: but I do remember the main pink girl was the female shinji hikari version... I..I can't. No. Stop it. Please. bwahahahaha Shinji was a whiny bitch that wanted to avoid conflict. Madoka wanted to eagerly help her friends while giving it some serious thought. She is (not) the female version of Shinji. Ok I'll have to rewatch it then |
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| you guys are obviously being trolled ._. i don't even now why you respond ._. |
Zeally said: you guys are obviously being trolled ._. i don't even now why you respond ._. now why you had to ruin everything? |
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| NOW MAKE A WISH ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ |
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