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Jun 17, 2013 5:35 PM

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FacelessVixen said:
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The short definition of elitism -> I dont like what you like but you must like what I like = hipster.
Yes,yes,I see now elitists=hipsters.
Now,seriously.Some of them do have great animes which I aded in my list and watched it but the majority of it sucked BADLY,storywise and visual appeal.


Wow, you make no sense.

It's because you didnt think at all of what I've posted.You just commented on what the words literally mean.Basically if I'd said "X is dead to me" for you it would mean "X is dead".
Now let me explain it,like for little kids.Elitsts are just wanna be superior,like all of us,they have anime in theyr list that literally suck,anime is just a matter of tastes(and what I've said few words ago is exactly a matter of taste).
While you say a story sucks,I say it rocks,but being an elitist you bring the stupidity to a whole new level.
/sarcasm
And yes,my posts do not have a sense.
/sarcasm over.



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I rather watch your sig, then not only my brain would be satisfied.

But yeah, bring it.

Elitism is when people take other tastes way to seriously or just creates a cheap ploy of a god complexity over a subjective matter.

Just treat them like the rest - Ignore them and go back to porn watch anime.

 
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It's because you didnt think at all of what I've posted.You just commented on what the words literally mean.Basically if I'd said "X is dead to me" for you it would mean "X is dead".
Now let me explain it,like for little kids.Elitsts are just wanna be superior,like all of us,they have anime in theyr list that literally suck,anime is just a matter of tastes(and what I've said few words ago is exactly a matter of taste).
While you say a story sucks,I say it rocks,but being an elitist you bring the stupidity to a whole new level.
/sarcasm
And yes,my posts do not have a sense.
/sarcasm over.


That is the only intelligent phrase I picked up. Other than that, you're just making absolutely no sense at all. In fact, the amount of 'non-sense' is so massive that I had to read the post multiple times, and I'm still very baffled.

What exactly did you mean?
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Jun 17, 2013 6:26 PM

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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva
 
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.
 
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i hate sub only elitists. they act like when you watch a dubbed version of a show you are killing the anime industry and what i hate even more is that these sub only people are the least likely to actually support the industry. well guess what dubs are awesome and i find it disgusting that people who have never spent a single penny on anime think they are better than people who actually constantly buy anime and support the industry.
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.


actually the last episodes have been confirmed by the creator to have been like that because of lack of funds. he wasnt actually using symbolism (well maybe a little) they just ran out of money.
Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate.

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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva

Its just to deep for you, man. Its like really philosophical and stuff, you know?
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Litrydow said:
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.


Hentai is also deep, and has the opposite effect.

 
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012yArthur0 said:
Litrydow said:
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.


Hentai is also deep, and has the opposite effect.


'It' goes deep. :)
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RiQ said:
012yArthur0 said:
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.


Hentai is also deep, and has the opposite effect.


'It' goes deep. :)


Pure PLOT.

 
Jun 17, 2013 7:20 PM

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Like how the general public likes to generalize anime viewers, anime viewers like to generalize elitists or 'anime viewers with taste'.

Not everyone's an ass.
 
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012yArthur0 said:
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I've always been baffled as to why elitists associate with such an amateurishly made show like Eva


Because it's deep and philosophical.


Hentai is also deep, and has the opposite effect.


'It' goes deep. :)


Pure PLOT.
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Jun 17, 2013 7:42 PM

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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?
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@ everyone who is taking this thread seriously

 
Jun 17, 2013 7:50 PM

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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?


Out of curiosity have you ever been a part of the video game fandom? I can't even go to any of the widely used Video Game forums (Gamespot, /v, etc.) without losing hope in humanity.

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I rather watch your sig, then not only my brain would be satisfied.


FacelessVixen always has the nicest avatars and signatures.
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Shrabster said:
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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?


Out of curiosity have ever been apart of the video game fandom? I can't even go on any of the widely used Video Game forums (Gamespot, /V, etc.) without losing hope in humanity.


I have. I actually quit video games for a long time because of video game fandom. I think what makes anime elitist's more insidious is that most don't rely on insults and curse words for their argument. They're just dismissive.
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NickyCharisma said:
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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?


Out of curiosity have ever been apart of the video game fandom? I can't even go on any of the widely used Video Game forums (Gamespot, /V, etc.) without losing hope in humanity.


I have. I actually quit video games for a long time because of video game fandom. I think what makes anime elitist's more insidious is that most don't rely on insults and curse words for their argument. They're just dismissive.

I thought anime elitists got by on their ability to make their attitude really subtle.
 
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As long as the anime world is flooded by narutards and other species, elitism will exist. I personally feel a bit elitist when i face those anime=moe guys, you know.
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Akito_Kinomoto said:
NickyCharisma said:
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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?


Out of curiosity have ever been apart of the video game fandom? I can't even go on any of the widely used Video Game forums (Gamespot, /V, etc.) without losing hope in humanity.

I have. I actually quit video games for a long time because of video game fandom. I think what makes anime elitist's more insidious is that most don't rely on insults and curse words for their argument. They're just dismissive.

I thought anime elitists got by on their ability to make their attitude really subtle.

Exactly. But try going five minutes in a conversation about anime without someone going "Oh... You like that?" Every-freakin-time it happens! Anime elitists reek of condescension.
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Elitists are like peacocks - pluck all the fancy feathers and they're just birds.
 
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I'm an elitist by MAL's definition (i.e. anyone who watches anime critically and is actually engaged with the medium including its faults) and proud of it.
True elitists watch magical girl anime
 
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the elites needs to have their holes filled..... with love~ ... and plasma grenades.
 
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I'm an elitist by MAL's definition (i.e. anyone who watches anime critically and is actually engaged with the medium including its faults) and proud of it.
True elitists watch magical girl anime


Watching something u dont like to rate it is stupid and waste of life.
 
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I'm an elitist by MAL's definition (i.e. anyone who watches anime critically and is actually engaged with the medium including its faults) and proud of it.
True elitists watch magical girl anime
Watching something u dont like to rate it is stupid and waste of life.
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


Now that is the fucking statement of the decade, never change elitists.
 
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katsucats said:
Krunchy said:
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I'm an elitist by MAL's definition (i.e. anyone who watches anime critically and is actually engaged with the medium including its faults) and proud of it.
True elitists watch magical girl anime
Watching something u dont like to rate it is stupid and waste of life.
To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.

well that means if you hate everything you actually like anime. and since you hate bad anime you like bad shows? I don't think I have the same tastes as you I like good shows.
 
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the elites needs to have their holes filled..... with love~ ... and plasma grenades.
ill fill your hole if ya no wat arm sayin hueuhueue
 
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Being a narcissistic is fun.
 
Jun 18, 2013 12:29 AM

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As long as the anime world is flooded by narutards and other species, elitism will exist. I personally feel a bit elitist when i face those anime=moe guys, you know.

you are elitist just by calling them narutards you prick
 
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


Now that is the fucking statement of the decade, never change elitists.


Actually, it makes a lot of sense. If you liked everything that you've watched then you probably haven't seen enough anime to have a genuine passion for the medium. After at least a couple hundred anime, you're inevitably going to find a large number that you hate. It doesn't take a critic to know what you like and dislike. Just an honest fan.
 
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


Now that is the fucking statement of the decade, never change elitists.


Actually, it makes a lot of sense. If you liked everything that you've watched then you probably haven't seen enough anime to have a genuine passion for the medium. After at least a couple hundred anime, you're inevitably going to find a large number that you hate. It doesn't take a critic to know what you like and dislike. Just an honest fan.


No, it really doesn't make any sense. katsucats said nothing about "genuine passion for the medium", whatever that is.
 
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


Now that is the fucking statement of the decade, never change elitists.


Actually, it makes a lot of sense. If you liked everything that you've watched then you probably haven't seen enough anime to have a genuine passion for the medium. After at least a couple hundred anime, you're inevitably going to find a large number that you hate. It doesn't take a critic to know what you like and dislike. Just an honest fan.

Yeah, and probably is the key word here.

Anyway, it does make sense, but there is nothing absolute and categorical in this field. Some people who have watched hundreds of anime still have problems to set their preferences and prefer to leave them unrated. I have watched 200+ titles and my average is still reasonably high. Talk about luck, good decisions or low standards.
 
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Veronin said:
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


Now that is the fucking statement of the decade, never change elitists.


Actually, it makes a lot of sense. If you liked everything that you've watched then you probably haven't seen enough anime to have a genuine passion for the medium. After at least a couple hundred anime, you're inevitably going to find a large number that you hate. It doesn't take a critic to know what you like and dislike. Just an honest fan.

or you have a life and you don't care about convincing people that the shows you hate are bad
 
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No, it really doesn't make any sense. katsucats said nothing about "genuine passion for the medium", whatever that is.

I don't know what he was actually implying. Maybe it was something stupid. I posted my own interpretation.

There's a clear difference between a person who loves his hobby to the point where he will defend what he likes and debate what he doesn't, and a person who has just picked a few highly-rated titles and thinks he's the biggest fan in the multiverse.

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Anyway, it does make sense, but there is nothing absolute and categorical in this field. Some people who have watched hundreds of anime still have problems to set their preferences and prefer to leave them unrated. I have watched 200+ titles and my average is still reasonably high. Talk about luck, good decisions or low standards.


A high mean score is fine. At 200 completed, though, you're bound to have a good idea of what kind of anime you dislike. And you probably avoid it for that very reason.
 
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Veronin said:
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Anyway, it does make sense, but there is nothing absolute and categorical in this field. Some people who have watched hundreds of anime still have problems to set their preferences and prefer to leave them unrated. I have watched 200+ titles and my average is still reasonably high. Talk about luck, good decisions or low standards.


A high mean score is fine. At 200 completed, though, you're bound to have a good idea of what kind of anime you dislike. And you probably avoid it for that very reason.

More like I set preferences on what to watch. I can rather effectively point at anime that I end up enjoying, but the contrary doesn't happen so much. I kind of envy people who have things so clear, I have been surprised so many times through watching stuff that I don't ever dare to label something as worthless before giving it a try.
 
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Don't really have much of an opinion, I have never met a legit elitist before.
 
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I don't think I've ever seen or met an 'anime' elitist, just people trying to force their opinion on people. However, elitist in other places are among the worst people I've ever come across, so I'm hoping to never meet more.
 
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.
well that means if you hate everything you actually like anime. and since you hate bad anime you like bad shows? I don't think I have the same tastes as you I like good shows.
If you like every anime you watch, how can you even claim to know what good anime is (when you've never seen a bad one)? There are different qualities in every show, and if we were to ask you to articulate what qualities you like from X and what qualities you like from Y; and then ask, so which do you like better, X or Y? If you can't distinguish between the merits of different qualities then you probably have no idea why you like what you like. To you it's just pretty colors moving on the screen, and things like plot, characters, subtext, setting, consistency, music and animation quality are indistinguishable.
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They arent elitsts, they are badass wannabes product of mass culture.
 
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I don't like elitism at all. Just look around, there's many people on here that honestly think they're better than weeaboos and otakus.
Yeah, they're all scum, am I right?

Was that an attempt at humor?

What makes you any better than them?


Better question is what makes them worse than you?

I will answer forementioned question. Generalization alert.

Otakus/Weaboos usually do not have any jobs(so they are socially useless), they are passionate over something like madmans(being overly passionate is wrong). Their passion is like devotion - they neglect other aspects of their life and that is undebatable bad not only for their families but moreso for them.

They are like parasite feeding on unemployment benefits.

No wonder otakus are despise in hardworking, ambitious society like Japan.
 
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Really, the people who can't handle criticism are far worse. You can't write a negative review on MAL or post criticism in the episode discussions or fanboys will flood you with asinine comments. Every single time there is always some idiot asking "why watch if u dont like???". Well, gee, I wonder.


This.


and once again

I like how people say "why watch if you don't like" then proceed to hate on someone saying that said anime is shit after dropping it. Seriously, I find some people to be counter intuitive.


As for elitists though, I don't really have any problems with them if they keep their elitism to themselves. A certain person here on MAL, however, is really quite annoying with his constant bashing of newer anime. I think his name pertains to him being a fan of lolicons, which I find to be ironic since he hates anything moe or loli with a burning passion.
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it's to talk about anime but Elitists ruin that fun...

god how many talks i had about death note? and i dropped the damn thing... but then again i won't bash the thing... if i had good reason for it maybe but then again i wouldn't force my thoughts down the other guy's throat.

here on MAL "hate" topics sprout like muchrooms and all you can read in those are "anime X sucks/anime X is the worst piece of shit EVER!!!" every so often people actualy EXPLAIN why they feel that way (minority) those are the people i like to talk to.

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Otaku=moron, obsessive, creepy
Anime fan=okay
Weabo=IDIOT. KILL IT WITH FIRE.
Reviewer= "professional"

There, learn the ways of being okay.


i will never call myself an otaku (like you said, in western culture most if not all otaku's are morronic obsessive creeps) i'm an anime fan, i watch anime because i like it... PERIOD :D
 
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Most elitists aren't really elitists at all because they are either hipster, refuse to accept certain genres as "worthy" of being called anime or similar bullshit.
However, there are ways to objectify ones' own opinion and everyone who had art courses knows that. Not to mention that being ignorant to any criticism of your favourites and equaling enjoyment with quality is dumb as well because you effectively abandon the basis for constructive discussion and fanboy over series without good reason, thereby alienating other people.

If you can't even formulate criticism regarding your favourite anime/manga it means you never even really thought about your favourites at all, ultimately revealing your enjoyment as very superficial because true fans can love their favourite while ackowledging flaws at the same time.

As the founder of the uber-elitist club I feel the need to point out the stupidity of both of these approaches, because that is exactly what makes discussions here worthless.

And now that I got that out of the way... imho "elitism"/actually basing your opinion on arguments is warranted on MAL because 90% of all MAL users are dumb as hell. They never use the features like they are intended, don't know how to rate on a normal scale, fucked up the recommendation feature and subforum with their ADHD symptoms and brand every other opinion as "fanboying" or "hating".
If the elitism most people mean here is equal to not being a fucking idiot I will gladly be an elitist over a stupid, ignorant and biased idiot who thinks his enjoyment is somehow more relevant than other people's enjoyment and who disregards any kind of contructive discussion.

I hope you can detect hints of irony. If not, welcome to the 90% of stupid MAL users.
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.
well that means if you hate everything you actually like anime. and since you hate bad anime you like bad shows? I don't think I have the same tastes as you I like good shows.
If you like every anime you watch, how can you even claim to know what good anime is (when you've never seen a bad one)? There are different qualities in every show, and if we were to ask you to articulate what qualities you like from X and what qualities you like from Y; and then ask, so which do you like better, X or Y? If you can't distinguish between the merits of different qualities then you probably have no idea why you like what you like. To you it's just pretty colors moving on the screen, and things like plot, characters, subtext, setting, consistency, music and animation quality are indistinguishable.

You don't seem to entirely get it.
I enjoy almost every anime I watch. Almost. I feel that I'd like most anime. I can tell which anime I like more, and to some extent, perhaps even why. Just because someone likes all the anime they watch doesn't mean they can't tell what makes them like whatever show they are watching.
 
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You don't seem to entirely get it.
I enjoy almost every anime I watch. Almost. I feel that I'd like most anime. I can tell which anime I like more, and to some extent, perhaps even why. Just because someone likes all the anime they watch doesn't mean they can't tell what makes them like whatever show they are watching.


No, but it means that you are not willing to acknowledge the quality difference within the medium, rendering your opinion moot.

Let's be honest: If someone likes ANY kind of icecream, would you ask him to recommend you his favourite icecream flavour? Or would you believe his opinion when he says 2I like that flavour"?

No, you wouldn't because you know that someone who likes everything is the same as someone who likes nothing. Being specific is what makes one's opinion worthy of being considered because EVERYTHING gets recommended/praised by someone. Only people who can elaborate on their tastes/recs/choices with sufficient depth can be trusted.
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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?

You have never met a music elitist, have you?
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To like everything you watch means you don't actually like anime at all.


This statement is so true.
 
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Of all the fandom's, anime has the nastiest elitists. Whether it's online or off, I just can't stand some of these people. It really steams my beans, ya know?

You have never met a music elitist, have you?

I have but their tastes are so irrelevant that they're easy to ignore.
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