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Jun 9, 2013 11:01 PM

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Archie74 said:
Good story... BAD rotoscope...


Are people honestly still steamed about the rotoscoping? It's been two months, man. Get over it.
The whole point of that shot at the end with the author was aimed toward people like you.
 
Jun 9, 2013 11:41 PM

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Durbikins said:
The whole point of that shot at the end with the author was aimed toward people like you.


Yes. Real Anime fans. A huge F U to all of us.
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Jun 10, 2013 12:53 AM

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anyone else felt the school days vibe here?


Indeed, Guy likes Girl A but then guy likes Girl B, Girl B likes Guy after a while yup I can see it now, the ending...
 
Jun 10, 2013 1:11 AM

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Super intense, 20/10.

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nakamura's manga face for anyone interested


Thanks. Anime infinitely superior.

Archie74 said:
Good story... BAD rotoscope...



Still this @ ep 10, damn, double face palm!

Lately said:
anyone else felt the school days vibe here?


I see where you are coming, but there is no point of comparison between THAT, and something (Aku NO Hana) of this caliber.
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Jun 10, 2013 3:34 AM

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Interesting episode with one really horrible annoying character. Kasuga is quickly making himself a viable nominee for the anime loser hall of fame. Watching him is just painful. I don't blame either girl for being fed up with him. He's been given his fair shot.

 
Jun 10, 2013 3:50 AM
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Elopement! Nakamura looked pretty without wearing glasses. It reminded me of Maoyuu when she said she wanted to see over the mountain. OMG@what she did to him in front of Saeki. And WOW@what Saeki said and did then. One is good but boring, the other bad yet exciting. It's Nakamura who can unleash his inner nature. It was a thrilling moment when he was torn between them. He is indecisive and irritating, yet it's why the story is interesting. I wondered what was going to happen next and how the episode was going to end. Then they came and finish it. I didn't imagine it would end that way. Great episode! Well written, well executed. I was fully entertained. I think it's safe to say it reached the level of literature. In fact, watching the episode, some literary works came through my mind.
 
Jun 10, 2013 4:00 AM

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Durbikins said:
Archie74 said:
Good story... BAD rotoscope...


Are people honestly still steamed about the rotoscoping? It's been two months, man. Get over it.
The whole point of that shot at the end with the author was aimed toward people like you.


"chara-moe types, those who go “Nakamura-san, unf unf” will probably feel betrayed"

Huehuehue... Keikaku doori!
 
Jun 10, 2013 5:13 AM

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here i am wishing that the reason why for every episode they put "[thirteen total]" is that they are just trolling us and its actually more than 25 episodes

THIS!!!!!^
 
Jun 10, 2013 6:27 AM

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Archie74 said:
Durbikins said:
The whole point of that shot at the end with the author was aimed toward people like you.


Yes. Real Anime fans. A huge F U to all of us.


FUCK! All this time I thought I was a "real" fan of anime... What have I been doing with my free time???
 
Jun 10, 2013 8:50 AM

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Awesome episode!
I'm loving this anime, the animation, story and music, everything contributes to make this anime epic
O importante não é o que fazemos de nós, mas o que nós fazemos daquilo que fazem de nós
 
Jun 10, 2013 9:32 AM

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Archie74 said:
Durbikins said:
The whole point of that shot at the end with the author was aimed toward people like you.


Yes. Real Anime fans. A huge F U to all of us.


I was hoping to be able to criticise your favourites list in response to the "Real Anime Fans" comment but it isn't too bad (Apart for Kannagi, I wasn't a fan). In any case, enjoying an unconventional anime doesn't make us any less significant in the anime community and it's pretty childish of a thirty-odd year old man to imply that it does.

If you don't like the rotoscope then go and read the manga.
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Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest!
Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks?

Bakemonogatari, Episode 5.
 
Jun 10, 2013 1:36 PM

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Great episode! The part under the rain was awesome!
 
Jun 10, 2013 1:53 PM
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Kasuga finally is honest with everyone but particularly with himself. His indecisiveness is going to cost them all dearly at some point I'm afraid. And there was something strangely touching about seeing Nakamura's softer side, despite her bullying and generally unsavoury character.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

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Jun 10, 2013 3:52 PM
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did anyone catch him getting his test back way back in ep1? the teacher handed it back to him and it had lots of red marks, the number 52 (percent? if so thats really bad obviously), and he told him to try harder next time

clearly they set it up from the very start that hes not some genius wizkid. seems like it might have been meant to foreshadow his confession of being a poser

thought that was a nice touch
 
Jun 10, 2013 4:28 PM

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I remember feeling the same way as Kasuga does. It's kinda scary that I can relate in some way to all of the characters. OTL
These kids are so fucked up.
u gay
 
Jun 10, 2013 4:53 PM
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Someone for the love of God give Nakamura's actress an oscar because holy fuck.



That scream at the end was the saddest thing.
 
Jun 10, 2013 4:57 PM

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Saeki was the one to make me the most uncomfortable. The way she tries so hard, I do have more difficulty understanding her than I do when it comes to Kasuga and Nakamura. So, of course, even after all the crazy things Nakamura put Kasuga through I felt kind of bad for her. >.>;
 
Jun 11, 2013 5:11 AM

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i don't know where this is going to go, it is getting quite weird
Lately said:
anyone else felt the school days vibe here?

no
 
Jun 11, 2013 7:07 AM

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5/5

Good episode, a tribulation unnerving not ever remember seeing her. The reactions of Takao, are in line with the character and with age, the thing that intrigues me and learn more about Nakamura today for the first time showed a afaccia different from the usual. Saeki has already given up the shot? Next week promises to be prolific, I can not wait!
 
Jun 11, 2013 12:36 PM

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This is a great place for episode 10 to be at. Kasuga saying he didn't really understand Baudelaire...touching. I don't think he's giving himself much credit though, considering how young he is.

"Shall I rotoscope you as well?"

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that eoten be eatin the pizza pi

Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
 
Jun 11, 2013 12:54 PM
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oh wow, this episode was so good!

i feel so bad for saeki :(
 
Jun 11, 2013 2:03 PM

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I cannot fathom at how anyone feels that there is romance between Nakamura and Kasuga. If I am wrong please correct me but all I have seen is a crazy abusive girl messing with the head of a reserved boy with extreme lack of self respect. How people go "unf Nakamura-chan and Kasuga kun love each other so much, I can tell when she forces him to strip and he lies on the floor crying". Wat?

Is it because he got the hots for her looking at her breasts in the rain? I'm sure most men would have that physcial reaction but in no way do I feel like that constitutes romance. Saeki is either desperate or truly loves Kasuga.
 
Jun 12, 2013 12:04 AM

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I cannot fathom at how anyone feels that there is romance between Nakamura and Kasuga. If I am wrong please correct me but all I have seen is a crazy abusive girl messing with the head of a reserved boy with extreme lack of self respect. How people go "unf Nakamura-chan and Kasuga kun love each other so much, I can tell when she forces him to strip and he lies on the floor crying". Wat?

Is it because he got the hots for her looking at her breasts in the rain? I'm sure most men would have that physcial reaction but in no way do I feel like that constitutes romance. Saeki is either desperate or truly loves Kasuga.


It's common to look at the relationship between a male and a female, especially in an anime, only through the prism of love (e.g. "Does he love her/him, how, and why?"). Not that it's unwarranted, but for more complicated anime that deviate from the cookie-cutter character personalities and psyches, it can lead to over-simplifications, in some cases even misunderstandings. Sure, Kasuga and Nakamura are both boy and girl, and guys will always be attracted to girls in a sexual way--she was dripping wet in a T-shirt after all. Does he stick with her and her 'abuse' strictly because he loves her somewhere deep inside? That's debatable.

I'd say it has more to do with Kasuga's personality than any sort of love or attraction he feels for Nakamura. That's not to say that that he can't or won't develop those feelings for Nakamura, but I see 'love' as a secondary factor in the development of his relationship with Nakamura. Kasuga's 'confession' showed us that he was empty inside; he was trying to find meaning and a sense of individuality by reading complicated literature, but it was a false guise since not only was he unable to understand it, but he used that persona as a way to fill that emptiness inside of him. Nakamura was the entity that filled the void within him and painted that blank canvas inside of him with black. His interest in her is that she gives him a sense of meaning and an identity (or perhaps to reaffirm what he considers to be his inner-self, i.e. "But I'm not a deviant!"), and that is what I think is the primary reasons for their relationship. This relationship seems pretty mutual, but as I said love is a factor that I would consider as secondary.
 
Jun 12, 2013 8:18 AM

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Kasuga is using both girls as an escape. One his muse and one his saviour. Saeki isn't all of what he needs but he isn't as much of what Nakamura wants of him. He sounds like he wants to be a better person more like big over the top fantasy but he doesnt know how to become it so he feels he doesnt deserve to be around them.
 
Jun 12, 2013 1:45 PM

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I wonder... What ending they choose.
I think they make OVA which end all the story about ''Aku no Hana''.
 
Jun 12, 2013 10:57 PM

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This episode was fucking amazing. The entire way through my eyes were glued to the screen. During the last scene where Nakamura was flailing and yelling on the ground, a flower of ecstasy bloomed inside of me. Really, really fucking amazing work of art.
 
Jun 13, 2013 6:57 PM

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Leo-Kliesen said:
I wonder... What ending they choose.
I think they make OVA which end all the story about ''Aku no Hana''.


Adding spoiler so I don't ruin anything.
 
Jun 13, 2013 11:13 PM

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I don't get how Nakamura can just strip a guy so easily... seriously it's been happening a lot. Is Kasuga that weak?
 
Jun 15, 2013 11:21 AM

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Long episode again, lots of dialogue and emotions. I have no clue where this is going, but it's somewhat interesting, I guess.

 
Jun 17, 2013 3:47 AM

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Hah. That ending card. Touché.

For middle schoolers these characters are oddly mature. And I don't mean by looks.
 
Jun 17, 2013 7:16 AM

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Kasuga are you faking kidding me. If a girl comes after you after you treated her like shit, you know she is for keeps. Not to mention if she is your crush

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Jun 17, 2013 11:22 PM

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It's confirmed. Kasuga has a micropenis.
(He has micro-balls too.)
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Jun 17, 2013 11:28 PM

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saeki can obviously do better and it annoys me how she keeps coming back.
team nakamura plz.
 
Jun 18, 2013 9:32 PM

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"Why?" Stockholm Syndrome to the max. Oh yeah. As for Nanako herself... she's slowly turning into a big 'Y', I'd say. He knew how to describe himself, but nothing about doing something about it. So... are you a pervert or not? Decide.

I can see they're trying to cram content by cutting out the OP and animating while the ED is playing. This shouldn't be happening if they hadn't wasted all their prior time on showing off their backgrounds and on footage of people slowly walking to someplace.

3 episodes left. I wonder if they'll ever make it to that part in the manga that is a reasonable stopping point.
 
Jun 19, 2013 5:32 PM

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this anime is teaching me not to judge by its cover, or should i say animation in this part, could have so easily dropped this by episode 2.... taught me to get past bad animation or at least ones that don't suit my style and go purely on how good of a story it is, and the story behind aku no hana is spine tingling at times, so intense and atmospheric
 
Jun 20, 2013 1:33 PM

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Nakamura was alll like
"fuck the police"
 
Jun 30, 2013 7:11 AM

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I had big expectations for this mountain scene. And it was awesome. They made it as good as in manga or even better. Now I just wait for festival.
 
Jul 15, 2013 7:44 PM

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Wow, good episode. Haven't watched this show in a while but it was a good episode to get back into. Very dark, loads of emotions ... wow, stripping Kasuga now are we? :P I'm impressed Saeki is staying and still saying she likes him ... I guess he just liked the idea of her rather than the person. Oh man and he couldn't choose between the two either ... surprised that Nakamura was crying at the end there too, ripping up the book and stuff. Clearly she just wants to get away ... but everyone ended up getting caught by the police. Well, it'll be interesting to see how this wraps up anyway :P
 
Jul 18, 2013 12:03 AM

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Wow, intense episode... Saeki should give up on him. He treats her like shit ;s
It was pretty painful to watch this...
 
Jul 29, 2013 5:39 PM

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Some very interesting setting in this episode! Really liked this development so far, it made it quite interesting and I really wonder what will happen next!
 
Aug 5, 2013 10:23 PM

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Kasuga gets on my nerves beyond the limits of my vocabulary. It is so frustrating to watch this, HOLY MOTHER OF BLACK JESUS. Alas! that's what I love about this anime though, ughhhhhh it hurts so effing GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!! I LIVE FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 13, 2013 10:35 AM

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Why no OP???
 
Sep 11, 2013 10:36 AM
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this anime is teaching me not to judge by its cover, or should i say animation in this part, could have so easily dropped this by episode 2.... taught me to get past bad animation or at least ones that don't suit my style and go purely on how good of a story it is, and the story behind aku no hana is spine tingling at times, so intense and atmospheric


About that. This episode was really strong. And I feel like understanding him a bit finally

If only the anime itself was 10% faster.
 
Sep 25, 2013 11:39 PM

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For middle schoolers these characters are oddly mature. And I don't mean by looks.

Haha...
Honestly, how are they middle schoolers?

He doesn't deserve Saeki and she can definitely do better.

Nakamura + Him deserve each other. I know it's a destructive combination, but Saeki needs to get out of this situation.
 
Jan 14, 2014 5:12 PM

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Nakamura is one of the most unlikeable characters I've encountered in a while, yeuch. I feel so bad for Saeki, she really kept trying :(
 
Feb 4, 2014 9:43 PM

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Man, that was awesome! I loved this scene in the manga and they adapted it perfectly! Even the dialogue!

(again, ignoring the fact that the animation is cringe worthy, but I'm getting used to it)
 
Feb 10, 2014 9:17 PM

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this MC is literally pissing me off...can he ever make a """""""" decision for himself?

this episode was very controversial..i'm really curious how it ends,i lost my night because of it anway
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Feb 22, 2014 6:36 AM

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So much screaming and crying. annoying.
 
Apr 22, 2014 1:11 AM

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Pretty strong episode, forgot how good this part was.

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Kasuga is the worst written MC since Genocyber. Fuck$$ retard.


He's been mindf**ked beyond recognition. It's kinda expected that he is like that.

Yea you gotta give Nakamura some credit at her ability to fuck with someone's head so well. That and Saeki telling him she still wants to be with him really screwed his mind since you'd never think a normal girl would EVER say that after all the stuff he's done O.O
 
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I guess he just liked the idea of her (Saeki) rather than the person.


THIS. I suspected as much from the very beginning, from his repetition of her being a "muse", "femme fatale","angel". Those are platonic concepts that show he really isn't seeing her for what she is, especially when you consider "femme fatale" and "angel" are pretty much antagonic. How can she be actively seductive AND innocent at the same time?
Furthermore, it has happened to me twice that I idealized girls I fell for, attributing to them characteristics that they did not have. For better or worse, I am way more cautious now in love. So I can empathize with him for being rather pathetic in this regard.
But at least he got the "angel" part right. Only an angel would repeatedly put up with so much crap and still love him.
 
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