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May 31, 2013 7:09 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Damn, I feel touched~!
 
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May 31, 2013 7:34 AM
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As expected from Makoto Shinkai this movie excelled in the visual department with extremely fluid animation and absolutely gorgeous scenery.

The soundtrack stood out to me surprisingly, expecially the intricate arpeggios and runs performed by the pianist at times. Glad to see that the storytelling didn't make use of unnecessary exposition which is unfortunately all too common nowadays.

I also liked the natural sounding dialogue and the relaxed pace, nothing felt rushed or dragging. That is, until the final climax. I would have preferred a bit more build-up for Takao's outburst which felt somewhat like it came out of nowhere for me with points that didn't got adressed before though that may have been the point, for example Yukari being secretive in regard to her personal life, which upset him. The part where Yukari claimed that he 'saved' her also didn't really convince me.

The incident that made Yukari quitting her job and their age difference also could have been more elaborated on to make them feel more than framework for the central conflict.
Still, it was a really enjoyable movie even though it could have been more polished regarding its plot.
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May 31, 2013 7:56 AM

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I love it, not because the main guy is Miyu-Miyu's voice, but also the storyline to this short movie.
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May 31, 2013 8:35 AM

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Beautiful opening in the beginning. I loved the flow of the rain and visuals together. I loved Kana's role in this and I think she played her part as Yukari Yukino really well. The movie felt a little slow to me but I liked the feet scene as a sort of symbolism.

The visuals of the 45 minute film was beautiful though just as I expected from Makoto. The rain was fluid and I think Yukari's emotions flowed along with the rain in this movie as well.

Dat embrace:

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May 31, 2013 9:32 AM

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Guys guys guys!!!
I watched it on animecrazy.net and the subbers didnt sub the VERY LAST FEW SECONDS after the credits of the movie! Q__Q

Someone please tell me what he said? ; _ ;

And I was kinda shocked that I saw it up because I thought it was supposed to be in japanese theaters... and then dvd and that whole long process... I still wonder why it came out so fast.
and i thought it was a legit movie.. but its only 46 minutes ; - ;

But anyway, this was BEAUTIFUL ; ___; <3

best part:


Who cares about age!!!!! T ////T
These two are perfect for eachother ; __ ;

In the end, he made the most beautiful pair of shoes for her ;__;

And I just love how the shoes he made for her... they arnt just shoes... they sort of describe her and look like that are just only meant for her. You can see it in them. (You know what I mean? ; //; ?)
I wish she got them in the end Q__Q </3
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May 31, 2013 9:47 AM

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fuck me. cant resist waiting the 3 weeks for my bluray to ship. downloading now.
 
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May 31, 2013 9:48 AM
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^x2 Translation for the last line (credit to a guy on Nyaa):

Hope they include it in the official BD release, it's quite a good line to close the film.
 
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May 31, 2013 10:03 AM

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Personally the last sentence is essential for the end cause it shows how determined the main char is when he said he would come for her.
They will meet again.
The movie is just simply beautiful, from the visual to the audio, and script/screenplay. But they could elaborate and build up character feelings more to make more natural. Time constraining is the only bad thing about this work, I want moar, 45min arent enough.
 
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May 31, 2013 10:07 AM

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It was a great watch, my full feelings can be found in my review :) Please give it a read if you have time! Wonderful to watch.

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May 31, 2013 10:15 AM

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Great art, just really great. But the story wasn't the best. Had some good lines and I liked the type of romance, though it felt a little cliche.

Art 9
Story 7

Overall I'm thinking a 7 or 8 for now.
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May 31, 2013 10:58 AM

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wow superb art.. i like the romance, too bad its only 45min it could have be great for the story if its longer,.
wishing for aki and yuki to be together.. :D

thaw was a beautiful movie ill give it a 8.5..


if aku no hana character art was like this it would be great..

 
May 31, 2013 11:07 AM

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I'm one of those Makoto fans that have been waiting a while for this movie to come out, as expected I loved the movie and I knowing Makoto I knew how this story would end(he pulled the same crap In 5CPS) ahh I really wanted aku and Yuki to be together really bad.... Why Makotomust you do this to your fans lol
 
May 31, 2013 11:35 AM

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This was better than 5cm per second and Voices of a distant star. Even though they aren't not together now he says he will come for her so this ended on a much better note. And wow you could take a screenshot at any point in the movie and have a excellent desktop background. http://imgur.com/a/lOBAQ#0 So needless to say the visuals were perfect. I like the piano piece that played somewhere in the middle of the movie.

Overall 9/10
Lulexiaa said:

But anyway, this was BEAUTIFUL ; ___; <3
best part:


I'll never get tired of that weather symbolism thing where the sun comes out, anime always pulls it off perfectly.
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May 31, 2013 12:28 PM
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Holy balls animation/art<3. Every scene is just so godlike ;__ ;.

Overall score 8/10. The story was good, but nothing spectacular to make me ball my eyes out or go "holy fuck." Animation is... Well I can't even describe it much more than what I did. Way beyond 10/10 though.
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May 31, 2013 12:49 PM

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Overall, a solid movie. The visuals and soundtrack are both amazing, as expected from Shinkai Makoto; the story is also touching, but I feel that the build-up could've been done better. While this didn't feel nearly as dramatic and well written as 5 cm/second, it was still a very enjoyable watch.

7.5/10
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May 31, 2013 12:50 PM

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Solid 8/10. The story itself is just a tad over mediocre. The execution, however, makes this short film worth remembering.

The art and animation are 11/10. Just takes your breath away.

Ps. Foot fetish much?
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May 31, 2013 1:08 PM

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The story was good for a 46 minutes movie, wasn't anything special. Yeah the art and animation are definitely amazing in this one.
Overall, I absolutely loved this movie!


"The world cannot be changed with pretty words alone." ~ Lelouch Lamperouge (Code Geass)
 
May 31, 2013 1:13 PM

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The scenery reminds me of all the sentimental time I went through living in Tokyo... Tokyo looks so dreamy and beautiful here...
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
May 31, 2013 2:29 PM

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Great art as expected. It gets me every time how well Shinkai's movies convey the japanese everyday live.
Music was great (only realized after watching the ending scroll that the music was by Kashiwa Daisuke, holy shit).
Excellent performance by Kana Hanazawa, I didn't even realize it was her while watching.

Story wasn't that impressive. But it was an audiovisual marvel, without a doubt.
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May 31, 2013 2:39 PM
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Sasuga Shinkai..

Breathtaking visuals.
Painfully realistic story.
 
May 31, 2013 2:44 PM

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It's too bad they didn't end up together :| Or did they? I don't understand what happened at the end tbh.
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May 31, 2013 2:46 PM

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It's too bad they didn't end up together :| Or did they? I don't understand what happened at the end tbh.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=608159&show=0#msg22417819

The translation of the last words.
 
May 31, 2013 2:47 PM

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Simply awesome! This movies tells us a lot about life in general. Definitely a movie that I can relate too and feel touched by. Sasuga Makoto-san!
 
May 31, 2013 3:03 PM

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Stunning visual with a very realistic story [2]

As expected from the director of Hoshi no Koe and 5 cm, this was really nice to watch.
 
May 31, 2013 4:02 PM

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Imho
Story:8 (can't actually expect more from a 46 min film)
Art&animation: 10 (flawless)

overall 9/10

Hope they will make an oav/a series about that, was too good to drop it in a 46 min anime :<

(aaaaaah it was too good when she said "you saved me" ;_;)
 
May 31, 2013 4:06 PM

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Hmm breathtaking scenery indeed, great embrace scene might add, that director is rly something...cant wait for his next show

however I do have a question...does this director ever change his style, I mean have you noticed that all his romance movies have a kinda "sad" feeling to it ?

it does make sense that those two characters cant be together, she is 27 and he is 15...so thats pretty much illogical in the real world, but all his movies notice they had sad touches to it or is it just me that feels sad ?

HOPEFULLY he will announce his next work in the coming weeks, great movie I give it an 8/10, 10 for art and 7 for story

PS: Oh yeah and one more thing, HOW THE HELL that girl didn't get fat if she eats chocalate and drinks beer everyday!!! daaaamn talk about a girl's dream o.o
 
May 31, 2013 4:09 PM

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It's late Friday night here and this movie probably deserves way more than I can convey right now. Personally I thought this was amazing though, the feels that were had blew my mind. The animation and art was amazing too, especially the rain scenes and the trees/leaves, this was the most enjoyable animated movie I've watched in a long time 5/5
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May 31, 2013 4:17 PM

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Just amazing, the first few seconds I really thought I had a live action movie or something! The art work in this movie is just amazing! The great touch on the story combined with some nice characteristics was just amazing! The ending made it even more beautiful I really liked this movie, it was touching and just beautiful! 9/10
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May 31, 2013 4:33 PM
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Great art as expected. It gets me every time how well Shinkai's movies convey the japanese everyday live.
Music was great (only realized after watching the ending scroll that the music was by Kashiwa Daisuke, holy shit).
Excellent performance by Kana Hanazawa, I didn't even realize it was her while watching.

Story wasn't that impressive. But it was an audiovisual marvel, without a doubt.


I think that's the beauty of Shinkai Makoto's films, his ability to just focus on little details of everyday life, things that people don't pay attention to on a normal daily basis. Not just the visuals and the soft bgm, but also the clarity of the sound effects, like the sound of rain or people's footsteps. He does a great job with the overall tone and atmosphere. I don't think you can get a more slice of life feeling than this. Another beautiful film by Shinkai Makoto, definitely wasn't a let down. Although I would've loved for the movie to be longer, I think it was perfect length. We see a glimpse of the interaction/relationship between the Takao and Yukino, and that's all we really needed. I didn't think I would cry, but I did. Somehow, the whole last part from when Takao and Yukino hugged and afterwards, I felt emotional about it all. Like with all of Shinkai's films, they're just so simple and beautiful, and there's no need for anything dramatic to happen for the audience to appreciate it.

By the way, the shoes that Takao made for Yukino I think suited her perfectly. ^^
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tingy said:
Not just the visuals and the soft bgm, but also the clarity of the sound effects, like the sound of rain or people's footsteps. He does a great job with the overall tone and atmosphere.

Yeah, I definitely should've mentioned the authentic sound effects. It's a big part of why these worlds feel so alive.
 
May 31, 2013 5:23 PM

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At the end, I just had to get up and applause, this movie was beautiful, another masterpiece of romance anime by Makoto Shinkai.
 
May 31, 2013 5:28 PM
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left me wanting so much moar

10/10 visuals
6/10 story/characters

8/10 overall

notbad for 45 mins spent
 
May 31, 2013 6:40 PM
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such a great sad movie
 
May 31, 2013 7:29 PM
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Personally the last sentence is essential for the end cause it shows how determined the main char is when he said he would come for her.
They will meet again.
I was about ready to throw a fit until he said that. Saved the story for me.
 
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Visual porn
Rain porn
Feet porn

 
May 31, 2013 8:51 PM

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I wish something more would have happened with them two.. It was still a good short movie though, I enjoyed it~
 
May 31, 2013 9:09 PM

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just finished the movie, i wasnt as moved as i was by 5cm per second, but safe to say, this was a visual masterpiece. some parts looked so good you could easily be mistaken for thinking that its a Liva action segment filmed with amazing filters on it.

the ending left me a little disappointed, and i think many will agree with me when i say it could have used a bit longe of a running time.

overally.

story-8/10
visuals 11/10
music 7.5 (at least compared to tenmons previous scores. theres just something about the new composer that didn't sound as great as what tenmon can do, hopefully he will be back on shinkais next movie)

overall 8.5/10

they really could have done more with the 2 characters, the end just seemed a bit abrupt. and personally, i prefer tenmon doing the music. he hasnt done a soundtrack yet that hasnt been a hands down masterpiece worthy of comparing any and all other anime soundtracks to. this one, while great in its own regard, felt a little weaker, especially compared to other shinkai films.

still a great movie worth the watch, cant wait for my bluray to arrive. it certainly was better than one of the other main movies i was looking forward to this year, the wolf children ame and yuki.
 
May 31, 2013 10:42 PM
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great movie for a Friday night :)
 
May 31, 2013 11:07 PM
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Saudades said:
^x2 Translation for the last line (credit to a guy on Nyaa):

Holy shit, this just made the movie like 2x more awesome!

Ive been waiting for this movie to come out for some time now, and was very surprised to see it translated so quickly. I guess today was just an awesome day. :)
 
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8/10
Best artstyle/animation of any anime.
The story itself was alright.
 
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OriginANIME said:
Saudades said:
^x2 Translation for the last line (credit to a guy on Nyaa):

Holy shit, this just made the movie like 2x more awesome!

Ive been waiting for this movie to come out for some time now, and was very surprised to see it translated so quickly. I guess today was just an awesome day. :)


those are official subs from the bluray, it comes with full english and chinese subs, and it went on sale early at the preview screenings, thats where this upload came from, officially, you can buy it june 21 off amazon jp, region free too
 
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Saudades said:
^x2 Translation for the last line (credit to a guy on Nyaa):


Dat last line....Pretty damn hopeful.

Felt euphoric at the art. Holy crap, could watch this thing all day.

Story (and romance) was...as usual beautiful with a sad feeling to it.
VERY realistic too.
 
Jun 1, 2013 2:12 AM

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Just amazing, the first few seconds I really thought I had a live action movie or something!
You know what, one thing that I could not help thinking as I watch this movie is what difference the same animation could have made for another anime that strives to capture character and scenery in real life proportions - Aku no Hana. Of course the budget and the format (movie vs TV series) are different, but I just could not stop thinking about that.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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That was beautiful. The scene after the credits seem to suggest that they will eventually meet again, so I guess that makes the ending less melancholic.
 
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People talk a lot about the last lines about walking and come for you, but the most memorable lines to me, except the emotional confrontation near the end, are the pair of Tanka from Manyoushu (ch.11) that bookend their first meeting in the park and their last (before getting true to each other). It is a beauty that so many tanka in Manyoushu are pairs in which one is the answer to the other in feeling and mood.

The lady to the man:
なるかみの すこしとよみて さしくもり あめもふらぬか きみをとどめむ
The thunder strikes softly. Can't the sky get a bit cloudy and rain falls a little. To keep you around. (my bad translation)

And the man answers:
なるかみの すこしとよみて ふらずとも わはとどまらむ, いもしとどめば
Even if there is no thunder or rain, I shall stay here, if it is your desire to keep me around. (my bad translation again)

Much better in mood and fits the dreamily beautiful scenery than the J-Pop song at the end.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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People talk a lot about the last lines about walking and come for you, but the most memorable lines to me, except the emotional confrontation near the end, are the pair of Tanka from Manyoushu (ch.11) that bookend their first meeting in the park and their last (before getting true to each other). It is a beauty that so many tanka in Manyoushu are pairs in which one is the answer to the other in feeling and mood.

The lady to the man:
なるかみの すこしとよみて さしくもり あめもふらぬか きみをとどめむ
The thunder strikes softly. Can't the sky get a bit cloudy and rain falls a little. To keep you around. (my bad translation)

And the man answers:
なるかみの すこしとよみて ふらずとも わはとどまらむ, いもしとどめば
Even if there is no thunder or rain, I shall stay here, if it is your desire to keep me around. (my bad translation again)

Much better in mood and fits the dreamily beautiful scenery than the J-Pop song at the end.


Those lines were just amazing. VERY fitting of the overall mood.
 
Jun 1, 2013 5:58 AM

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by far one of the best artwork ive seen
 
Jun 1, 2013 6:48 AM

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Dat animation. It was brilliant, excellent.

The story was also good, and sad in the end.

Saudades said:
^x2 Translation for the last line (credit to a guy on Nyaa):

Hope they include it in the official BD release, it's quite a good line to close the film.


That sounds so beautiful.

9/10
 
Jun 1, 2013 10:16 AM

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The move was awesome! I love his movies. The ending is kinda sad, even though they might meet up later ( the last words of the last scene ). I think I should stop watching his movies, because they're kinda sad. :(

10/10 definitely.
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Jun 1, 2013 4:56 PM
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Wow.

What made this movie good to me was the fact that it was able to make such a generic story feel so fresh. I don't think Makoto Shinkai's out to redefine this sort of love story as much as he is trying to embrace it and work with it.(had a friend help me piece that together XD) With that said, a solid 9/10 in my books for now because of all around solid execution. Not quite 5 cm per second level, but pretty damn close.

Finally, that scenery porn and music...holy crap those were amazing.
 
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