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What you think about considering animals above other humans? I know it is an abuse, because how can a dog be more precious than a baby human, but well, discuss

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May 28, 2013 4:28 PM
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I keep seeing humans killing animals and other people saying "oh this guy should die, he is a monster".

And I also keep seeing humans killing other humans, while people say "oh I hope police catch this guy, he will rot at prison".

Come on, are you guys crazy?

Those days I saw an guy talking about an animal that is very rare, and hes existence is in risk. He said that this animal's nutrients can cure an very serious disease, through they have to kill this animal for having the nutrients. He said people should not kill the animal, because it is cruel and bla bla bla.

BUT HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ABOUT THE STRONGEST SHALL SURVIVE? We, humans, are going to die, to let an very small, herbivore live? Which shall die from natural causes (ate by other animal) after two hours?

I do think that treating dogs and other domestic animals bad IS cruel and mean, but even the big predators play with their victims (I watched an video where an leopard was playing with an little monkey before eating him).

It reaches a point where when an child's grandfather dies, this child do not even care, but when this child's dog dies, she starts crying and "will never forgive when she lost her first dog".

But when someone asks him about hes grandfather, "oh he died when I was a child, I don't remember much"

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May 28, 2013 4:29 PM
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Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
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May 28, 2013 4:31 PM
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The name of the thread isn't long enough.
Rename pls.
May 28, 2013 4:32 PM
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May 28, 2013 4:34 PM
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Red_Keys said:
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So he's okay with birds if they aren't fucking?
May 28, 2013 4:34 PM
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RandomPerson3 said:
The name of the thread isn't long enough.
Rename pls.


Serious?

Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.


This is what I am talking about
May 28, 2013 4:35 PM
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I'm from a box what's good
May 28, 2013 4:36 PM
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Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.
May 28, 2013 4:37 PM
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lupadim said:
I keep saying humans killing animals and other people saying "oh this guy should die, he is a monster".

Sounds like someone from PETA
joking
lupadim said:

And I also keep seeing humans killing other humans, while people say "oh I hope police catch this guy, he will rot at prison".

Death is too easy for the murderer. Torture by living with the pain > death sentence.

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
May 28, 2013 4:37 PM

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
May 28, 2013 4:38 PM

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ROFLMAO
Somebody's mad
May 28, 2013 4:38 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.

It's your job to revive their cuteness, deal with it.
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May 28, 2013 4:40 PM

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Ghostony said:
Red_Keys said:
Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.

It's your job to revive their cuteness, deal with it.


Cuteness... Define cuteness
May 28, 2013 4:40 PM

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Long title as always lupa. Learn to sumarize a little.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
May 28, 2013 4:41 PM

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lupadim said:
Ghostony said:
Red_Keys said:
Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.

It's your job to revive their cuteness, deal with it.


Cuteness... Define cuteness

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Puppies>>>Humans

lupadim said:
RandomPerson3 said:
The name of the thread isn't long enough.
Rename pls.


Serious?

Yes
And still not long enough!
May 28, 2013 4:41 PM

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First of I would like to say that considering animals above humans is wrong.

I would also like to say that considering humans over animals, is just as wrong.

Humans, are animals. That is a fact. Humans are very much like animals besides the fact that yes, we are more evolved than them.

Does that make either animals or humans more important? No.

Personally I believe that an animal should have rights just like a human. We all have to live on this planet and that means it needs to be shared equally.

That being said, this is my opinion and I know other people have other opinions and I respect that.

Pertaining to the topic of animals having nutrients needed for help with a disease, yes of course that animal should be used. Not tested on, not tortured or mistreated, just killed and used because it could save a life.

Animal abuse is wrong no matter what animal it is because no matter what they are still living creatures, they can still feel and they still have emotions. If people want to eat animals then yes that is fine (not sure if I agree with that either, but that's a whole other topic :P), but abuse? I don't think that's very fair.
May 28, 2013 4:42 PM

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Ghostony said:
lupadim said:
Ghostony said:
Red_Keys said:
Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.

It's your job to revive their cuteness, deal with it.


Cuteness... Define cuteness

So cute!
May 28, 2013 4:44 PM

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@bean_kun

If you believe animals should have the same rights as humans, but you also believe that an innocent animal should be killed to cure someones disease..

Would this also apply to killing innocent humans for the sake of curing somebody else?
Should we assume you're a dangerous person now?
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May 28, 2013 4:44 PM

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frankly i'm closer to my cats than my living grandfather
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Ghostony said:
lupadim said:
Ghostony said:
Red_Keys said:
Ghostony said:
Animals are cute. Cute things should be protected.
As an employee at a veterinary hospital, I can say with confidence that no, animals are not cute.

It's your job to revive their cuteness, deal with it.


Cuteness... Define cuteness



I see you like bunnies.



To people that are too lazy to see a 9 minutes funny video, a shortened version...



Do you still think bunnies are cute?
May 28, 2013 4:47 PM
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You bloody hypocrites. What about plants?
May 28, 2013 4:48 PM

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I hate bunnies. I prefer an rabbit.
May 28, 2013 4:48 PM

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worldeditor11 said:
You bloody hypocrites. What about plants?


I hate plants. I hate them A LOT. I hate them so much, I always eat them, so they can stop existing.
May 28, 2013 4:49 PM

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bean_kun said:

Humans, are animals. That is a fact.


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Animals are food. Just as how Humans are animals. They're just food. We are equal. :)
You're all idiots, but I'm no different.
May 28, 2013 4:50 PM

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lupadim said:
worldeditor11 said:
You bloody hypocrites. What about plants?


I hate plants. I hate them A LOT. I hate them so much, I always eat them, so they can stop existing.

You should start eating poison ivy then. They're the delicious!
May 28, 2013 4:54 PM

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we are the apex predator species

screw animals
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lupadim said:
worldeditor11 said:
You bloody hypocrites. What about plants?


I hate plants. I hate them A LOT. I hate them so much, I always eat them, so they can stop existing.


Good. We all can die then due to suffocation.
May 28, 2013 4:55 PM

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Ghostony said:
@bean_kun

If you believe animals should have the same rights as humans, but you also believe that an innocent animal should be killed to cure someones disease..

Would this also apply to killing innocent humans for the sake of curing somebody else?
Should we assume you're a dangerous person now?


You're right .-.

See...I so torn on this topic...I've talked about animals mistreatment with so many people and gotten so many different opinions...

But yeah you're right I am being hypocritical when I say that. Hmm...

Well, alright, I didn't think of the" killing innocent humans for the sake of curing somebody else" part. I do want animals and humans to have similar rights so I suppose I am wrong to say that I also agree with killing animals to cure a disease.

So I want to re-evaluate what I previously stated now that you've pointed that out. It is wrong for an innocent animal to be killed to cure someones disease. I also disagree with humans being killed for other humans. So no I would not support it.

Please don't assume I'm a dangerous person... ;-; love for everybodeh

Thank you for pointing that out @Ghostony
May 28, 2013 4:56 PM

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lupadim said:
bean_kun said:

Humans, are animals. That is a fact.




I-I'm just saying...some people have disagreed with me before ;-;
May 28, 2013 4:58 PM

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screw animals

im not n2 bestiality
May 28, 2013 5:03 PM

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lupadim said:


Do you still think bunnies are cute?

OMG! That is the funniest scene in the movie! I just couldn't stop laughing! Probably their best movie, though I haven't watched that many really.
Back to thread: I should have expected a thread like this sooner or later from you Lupa.
bean_kun said:
First of I would like to say that considering animals above humans is wrong.

I would also like to say that considering humans over animals, is just as wrong.

That's probably the best anwer so far.
You favor humans too much. Last time I checked, animals don't wage wars between each other, they don't destroy the planet they live in, nor do they kill those of their own species. If someone is wrong in the ecosystem, it's us.
May 28, 2013 5:03 PM

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Animals are cute. Living beings and deserve love and care. But that doesn't mean that they're more precious than a human.
We all know how things work. There are animals that deserve to live a good life much more than some humans out there.


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May 28, 2013 5:06 PM

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Yaver said:
You favor humans too much. Last time I checked, animals don't wage wars between each other, they don't destroy the planet they live in, nor do they kill those of their own species. If someone is wrong in the ecosystem, it's us.


What?

Yaver said:
Animals don't wage wars between each other


http://io9.com/5572430/which-animals-make-war-other-than-humans

Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in


Yaver said:
they don't kill those of their own species


This one was so funny I am not even going to give you the link about the more than 1000 species that EAT the sexual partner after sex. (spiders)
May 28, 2013 5:07 PM

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bean_kun said:

Should we go by an indivisual case by case basis to spot out the criminal bunnies from the law abiding ones?
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May 28, 2013 5:07 PM

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Yaver said:
You favor humans too much. Last time I checked, animals don't wage wars between each other
Yes they do. In fact, they're instinctually driven to protect their own territory, mark their own territory, expand their own territory, and kill anything that enters their own territory.

Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans.

Yaver said:
nor do they kill those of their own species.
Are you stupid?

Yaver said:
If someone is wrong in the ecosystem, it's us.
lol
May 28, 2013 5:11 PM

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Yaver said:
bean_kun said:
First of I would like to say that considering animals above humans is wrong.

I would also like to say that considering humans over animals, is just as wrong.

That's probably the best anwer so far.
You favor humans too much. Last time I checked, animals don't wage wars between each other, they don't destroy the planet they live in, nor do they kill those of their own species. If someone is wrong in the ecosystem, it's us.


You're one of the few that I have ever talked to that agrees with me on that. I only have three other friends that share the same views as me. I definitely agree with you in the sense that we are the ones wrong with the ecosystem. I mean seriously, all we do is consume and destroy -_-
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Troll thread?
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Red_Keys said:
Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans.


Humans have changed the planet drastically...and not in a positive way.
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Last post in this thread..

I agree with you Bean_kun and I'l back off (I was just teasing you gomensai)xD

Humans are animals. We're all from the same universe, we're all made out of those atoms and electrons and such. And we all have our own minds.
Superiority is just an illusion.
Every person including each and every animal is important in their own way.
I consider animals as persons/people too.

People shouldn't have to suffer. People shouldn't have to die early.
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May 28, 2013 5:20 PM

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I like dogs. Dogs are cool.

I like humans, but less than dogs.
May 28, 2013 5:21 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans

Welp, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
May 28, 2013 5:24 PM

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bean_kun said:
Red_Keys said:
Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans.


Humans have changed the planet drastically...and not in a positive way.


What is a positive way of changing the world?
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I have nothing against killing animals for food. (Unless they are considered housepets. Neverever eat a housepet). I mean animals kill other animals for food.
But when it comes to killing animals for fun? That's just disgusting.
May 28, 2013 5:24 PM

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Yeah this will probably be my last post here too..unless anyone else continues to speak to me c:

No no, I see what you were saying Ghostony..I was being a derp in parts of what I said ._.

But yeah I just think there shouldn't be a need to harm other creatures in order for us to survive because it really isnt necessary.

Freedom and rights for all the earthlings, 'cause it's not like there's anywhere else for us to go to yet anyways
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bean_kun said:
Red_Keys said:
Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans.


Humans have changed the planet drastically...and not in a positive way.
Not really.
May 28, 2013 5:28 PM

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lupadim said:
bean_kun said:
Red_Keys said:
Yaver said:
they don't destroy the planet they live in
Neither do humans.


Humans have changed the planet drastically...and not in a positive way.


What is a positive way of changing the world?


Any way that's natural and nothing to do with creating more industries that just pollute everything.

Evolutionn for example, is posotive :P
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I feel the need to post this. Sorry guys.

You're all idiots, but I'm no different.
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