Attack on Titan
supersquatchy said: [ Hmm well I was trying to figure out if he did anything to Mikasa or not. Looking at the timeline.. how they killed those thugs before Grisha took Mikasa under his wing. In that event Mikasa displayed some of her strength.. when she broke the floorboard. That one scene, that one small detail... though it could have just been for a dramatic, dynamic moment... all the small details in this series shouldn't be overlooked. Almost ALL of them have very important meaning or are a very important hint. Like how Reiner, Bert, and Annie all have a Roman nose.. so does that guy in the military police.. the squad that Annie is in.. I think is name is Marlow??? Anyway... so it seems as if Mikasa had that sort of strength on, and before the day her parents were killed. HOWEVER Grisha knew the family and had visited them before.. was he going to check up on how Mikasa's "powers" were doing? I mean, the other strong character in the series is Levi.. but it's his technique that makes him a great soldier. I don't think Mikasa is one of those comedically strong anime girls... there's certainly a reason behind her strength. Grisha would be the most capable person of infusing her with such strength. As for Eren's apparent abundance of skin (lol).. you're right.. it does sound possible for it to be for the big reveal.. but again.. detail. There is soo much detail. It really does seem possible that it was really just for technical purposes though. And for the most important thing of all... I ship.. Eren x Levi.. because really.. look at all that official art.. how can anyone not xD But everything must have a backstory.. so I say it was Erwin and Levi before Levi and Eren. I also refuse to accept that Eren is 15 and Levi is 30. No. Sorry Hajime Isayama but you're wrong. Eren is 19 or something and Levi is more like 24. Look at Jean though.. he is NOT 15. They're all lying. TT-TT Eren looks 15 to me, look at his height compared to his fathers, he still has some growing left to do. I know little details are important in this manga, which is what started me shipping Eren and Mikasa, seeing as the last thing she discussed with her parents was having children of her own and then Eren came into her life. That and the scarf, which to me seems an obvious nod to the red string/ribbon of fate - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_string_of_fate - note how it is often referred to in Japanese Manga I think Mikasa's "powers" is why Grisha was so willing to take her into his family, of course I think Eren would have done something if Grisha didn't, but he suggested it first. |
supersquatchy said: Oooh the red string of fate! I hadn't caught that! It's actually perfect.. but.. I still don't ship them xD At least there is a very strong base for the ship. The idea of Mikasa being able to 'unlock' her brain seems like a very interesting idea. Could that make her immune to becoming a titan? Because she's so in control of her mind and body? Also. They say how she's the last of her kind. I've been wondering about that lately. Is she really? What exactly happened to everyone else of her race? I don't think that will be left untouched. It's got to be a piece of the puzzle. How can you not ship them, it's for great justice! (And probably the only way Mikasa can be truly happy once again) About Mikasa being the last of her kind, I think it is because where the walls are based, obviously somewhere in Europe, so most people of Asian descent didn't make it into the walls and so probably were devoured by titans. Mikasa herself isn't a pure blood anyway, her father was European. I think Mikasa "unlocking" her powers, could be herself activating her powers that maybe Dr.Yaeger gave her? Mikasa just seems to superhuman to me to be just "control" of her body. She is already stated to be worth 100 standard soldiers, and she has only just come out of training. Only Mike and Levi, and Eren (in titan form) are shown to be better than her. it is interesting to note when it comes down to it, Mikasa and Eren are both very similar, in that they are passionate about protecting those they love and achieving their dreams (Living outside the walls for Eren, being by Erens side for Mikasa). |
LestrangeHakase said: Reasons for not shipping them are pretty simple: You're either not into sibling-lovestories (not gonna call it incest cause they're not related by blood) or you simply don't like one of the two characters or both. For me it's as simple as not liking Mikasa. Not that I dislike her in the manga, I actually dislike her whole concept cause it seems lazy. Her background is pretty sad and her character would have lots of potential because of that, but in the end she happens to be someone that has lots of feats but almost no personality. So far she's simply Erens obsessed supersoldier-sidekick. If Eren seems to be dead she wants to die, if Eren is alive she wants to stay close to him: Thats her whole personality in a nutshell. Dunno, to me a lazy concept like that is acceptable in something as stupid as Dragonball or Naruto but in SnK I prefer the characters that have any depth to them (which is pretty much everyone EXCEPT for Mikasa). As for Mikasas strength. I guess she's just a prodigy. True she's way stronger than most normal soldiers and trainees eventho she's still green but then again Levi is far stronger than she is because he has experience. If Mikasa was experimented on to get so strong, then that'd mean Levi must have been experimented on by Yaeger aswell and that just makes no sense. They are both prodigies and that's all there is to it. But if I'm perfectly honest: As much as I doubt it'll happen, I'd be very happy if she turned out to be a shifter. Not because she'd be strong, but because that would actually give her slightly more depth. She'd become an interesting character instead of just being the obsessed badass nuisance. Neither one of them refers to each other as brother and sister, Eren even states the opposite "I'm not your son or your little brother" and he would be her little brother, seeing as she is older than him. But nott getting into to much detail on this, well this time anyway On Mikasa's character, I can understand why some people such as yourself don't like her, its the same reason I like her. I enjoy her simple character, because her motivation is so pure, to protect the person she loves. I'm not sure if I would describe it as lazy because without Mikasa, Eren wouldn't get far, although that goes both ways obviously. Her intense focus on Eren is interesting to me, because it is the source of some of the most powerful emotions in the manga. Mikasa also has some noticeable interactions with Armin, where he almost seems afraid that Mikasa is going to hurt him when she finds out Eren is dead. That and we recently learned about her rivalry with Annie (Although that was caused by jealousy of Annie and Eren training) The reason I highlighted her strength is what she did when she was 9, breaking that knife handle and that floorboard, that's some insane strength for a 9 year old. Its just that little details mean so much in this manga, and we see these crazy strength feats and learn that Dr. Yeager visited her as a child, and we know he isn't against experimenting? (Eren's titan form) on children. Comparing her to Levi, yes he is stronger than her, but he has had years upon years of experience and of course is extremely talented. But to be honest it seems that Mikasa will reach his level soon enough and in the future surpass him. |
yuquall said: supersquatchy said: The idea of Mikasa being able to 'unlock' her brain seems like a very interesting idea. Could that make her immune to becoming a titan? Because she's so in control of her mind and body? Also. They say how she's the last of her kind. I've been wondering about that lately. Is she really? What exactly happened to everyone else of her race? I don't think that will be left untouched. It's got to be a piece of the puzzle. Well it seemed that way from her monologue at that time. So kinda said after finally realizing that the world was indeed cruel and accepted it, at that time she could completely in control of her body and know that she could make her body do anything. There was an image of electrocuted brain before she crashed the knife or broke the wooden floor before launching. Well at least that's how I saw it. All humans are potentially have strong power but were limited by the brain so we could only release about less than 10% of our full ability. Regarding if she had been given extra strength or power by Grisha or if it has something to do with her descent, none had been confirmed. Probably her mother is the last pure blood oriental that lives on the surface. Who knows if in the underground world, orientals had existed merely as merchandises for the pleasure of perverted rich people. From the talk between the kidnappers it was indicated slave trading had been going on for long and orientals seemed to have much higher value because of their rarity. About that 10% of your muscles thing, you use more than that, but not all of their capacity. The reason is that if use 100% of their capacity you tear them up and get injured, so your body limits what you can do. |
yuquall said: But her emotions are the reason for her strength and her weakness, her realisation about the cruel world have her the resolve but her emotion is what gives her the strength she has, which is why it wavers when she believes Eren is dead, and why she believes "she can do anything" whilst she has Eren.MikasaxEren said: yuquall said: Well it seemed that way from her monologue at that time. So kinda said after finally realizing that the world was indeed cruel and accepted it, at that time she could completely in control of her body and know that she could make her body do anything. There was an image of electrocuted brain before she crashed the knife or broke the wooden floor before launching. Well at least that's how I saw it. All humans are potentially have strong power but were limited by the brain so we could only release about less than 10% of our full ability. Regarding if she had been given extra strength or power by Grisha or if it has something to do with her descent, none had been confirmed. About that 10% of your muscles thing, you use more than that, but not all of their capacity. The reason is that if use 100% of their capacity you tear them up and get injured, so your body limits what you can do. I wasn't saying about the muscles though. There is a belief that human's limitations are actually caused by the brain itself. We filled it up with fears, pain and maybe other negative thoughts so it only lets 10% of our capability used. This could be the reason why Mikasa appears so emotionless after her power came out, so she could negate anything that might cause her weakness. But this is only a theory. Japanese like these kinds of myths or superstitions so it is possible. |
| The panels that showed Mikasa's brain doing... something were there for more than just dramatic effect, I think. I mean, Eren's dad was probably doing some kind of genetic testing on her based off what we've seen. |
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KaguraUzumaki said: The panels that showed Mikasa's brain doing... something were there for more than just dramatic effect, I think. I mean, Eren's dad was probably doing some kind of genetic testing on her based off what we've seen. Maybe her strength is he partly because he tested his titan stuff on her? Trying to perfect it before he injected it into Eren? (Just rambling here but it's just a thought) |
MikasaxEren said: KaguraUzumaki said: The panels that showed Mikasa's brain doing... something were there for more than just dramatic effect, I think. I mean, Eren's dad was probably doing some kind of genetic testing on her based off what we've seen. Maybe her strength is he partly because he tested his titan stuff on her? Trying to perfect it before he injected it into Eren? (Just rambling here but it's just a thought) It could be that, or she could be some sort of biological weapon. I mean, whatever she IS, she broke a floorboard while running. That ain't normal for a little girl. (or anyone lbr) |
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KaguraUzumaki said: MikasaxEren said: KaguraUzumaki said: The panels that showed Mikasa's brain doing... something were there for more than just dramatic effect, I think. I mean, Eren's dad was probably doing some kind of genetic testing on her based off what we've seen. Maybe her strength is he partly because he tested his titan stuff on her? Trying to perfect it before he injected it into Eren? (Just rambling here but it's just a thought) It could be that, or she could be some sort of biological weapon. I mean, whatever she IS, she broke a floorboard while running. That ain't normal for a little girl. (or anyone lbr) Exactly, Mikasa is obviously superhuman, I mean she is getting close to Levi's level and she is only 15, fresh out of training. |
MikasaxEren said: KaguraUzumaki said: MikasaxEren said: KaguraUzumaki said: The panels that showed Mikasa's brain doing... something were there for more than just dramatic effect, I think. I mean, Eren's dad was probably doing some kind of genetic testing on her based off what we've seen. Maybe her strength is he partly because he tested his titan stuff on her? Trying to perfect it before he injected it into Eren? (Just rambling here but it's just a thought) It could be that, or she could be some sort of biological weapon. I mean, whatever she IS, she broke a floorboard while running. That ain't normal for a little girl. (or anyone lbr) Exactly, Mikasa is obviously superhuman, I mean she is getting close to Levi's level and she is only 15, fresh out of training. She's only 15? I thought they were 16 for some reason. And yeah, her skill and raw strength go far beyond the average human. She was also having those head pains at one point? |
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yuquall said: Xinception said: yuquall said: Xinception said: It's pretty much assumed to be traumas at this point, unless what MikasaxEren suggested is true, which is that Mikasa is a Titan Slayer (my nickname for them superhumans). I happened to read somewhere in a Japanese review site stating that the author mentioned about Mikasa was merely released her brain limiter at that critical moment. They showed her brain's surge, her lines about 'having a complete control', her somewhat lack of emotions afterwards (not to count her obsession), and this being a Japanese manga should be convincing enough to believe that was it. It makes me wonder if Levi hadn't actually done the same thing himself, witnessing his strength and power which is far beyond human's. If he hadn't, I can't imagine how much stronger he could be if he did just that. Wait.... so does that mean we can unlock our brain in real life too? o-o That I don't know. Maybe after years and years of training and meditation in an isolated temple? Or for a quick shortcut, put yourself in Mikasa's situation then if you're lucky you'll get it. Maybe rip the limiter out of your head? Our bodies are actually much stronger than our brains would allow (look at Eren's titan form). |
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| can someone explain to me why Ymir became human again ?? she said that 60years ago she feels like always having a nightmare when she is in titan form ... but when he eat a human with a powder(or something like that)? ...she back in her original form(human as ymir) but can't remember what happened after that...? |
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| While the idea of Mikasa being a Titan shifter sounds freaking AWESOME, I feel like that would make her character way too OP (overpowered). I feel like Isayama's characters and all their personalities serve a purpose: - Eren - embodies the rage/fearlessness of humanity, as well as its tenacity (multiple characters have commented on his insane and scary ability to keep getting back up against insurmountable odds) - Armin - intelligence, someone who realizes his own limitations but still tries to do whatever he can to help - Erwin (Irwin) - leadership, someone who sees the bigger picture and is willing to take responsibility for whatever ungodly sin if it means the survival of humanity (also his fucking arm got bitten off and he barely even blinked) - Mikasa - spitting in the face of the typical damsel in distress archetype, had the rug pulled from beneath her feet, but isn't a victim. She carries the horrible memories with her (I think those are the headaches she gets, when she remembers the murder of her parents; it's a common coping mechanism for young children to attempt to bury or forget traumatic experiences), but keeps trying to live. - Levi (Rivaille) - a person from questionable roots (he was part of the Capitol underground before coming over to Irwin's side, which we'll learn more about later) became humanity's strongest; had a team that looked up to him and believed in him, as well as some great one-liners. - Hanji - let go of her blistering hate for Titans and adopted a different angle, hoping to gain some new insight I could go on. I just think that other than Eren, having more Titan shifters among the aforementioned characters would be a little too contrived and make the manga less enjoyable (at least for me, lol). The point is that they're human and they're still strong as fuck. (I do, however, fully endorse an all-out, anything goes battle between titan!Annie and titan!Mikasa; THAT would be super awesome and cancel out everything else I said earlier) |
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| I usually don't really post.. But I decided to give it a go.. Mind you, this "theory" occurred to me before I actually read the manga However, the further I got into the series (especially after reading manga) I seriously doubt any of this would actually be the case. |
Forgetfulness said: kokolien said: I usually don't really post.. But I decided to give it a go.. Mind you, this "theory" occurred to me before I actually read the manga However, the further I got into the series (especially after reading manga) I seriously doubt any of this would actually be the case. Probably, since it's said and shown that Titans throw up the humans they eat after they're full Pretty much, yeah :P |
| my theory is that the village where Reiner, Bertholdt and Annie come is where the colossal Titans from the walls come from, many people in that village were slaves and were transformed into, now, the first time humans become titans they seem to lose their intelligence , then the ape titan, a human ally, controlled them to make the walls. Humans then betray and trap him, but when the Wall is destroyed, he escapes. Reiner and Bertholdt just want to free thier people. The strange language may be extinct, and Ymir could read it because she has been living for 60 years, Reiner could read a part of it because his village was taught him some of this language. Maybe one of the Wall titans is important to Reiner’s village, and so he need Christa because she may know where this titan is. Anyway, thats my theory, does anyone agree or want to give me their opinion? |
YamadaAoi said: can someone explain to me why Ymir became human again ?? she said that 60years ago she feels like always having a nightmare when she is in titan form ... but when he eat a human with a powder(or something like that)? ...she back in her original form(human as ymir) but can't remember what happened after that...? she was probably killed as a titan, and when she woke up and transformed again she was concious |
Kunai334 said: New to MAL and figured I'd throw in something that's been bugging me since the season finale. The whole intermission scene talking about the miner, now it's crazy enough him and his friend both disappeared but, what about the floor? The passage describes him reaching what seemed to be a bedrock floor. His shovel broke making me think it's some kind of titan material. Seems fishy that the day after he reaches the floor he disappears as well as his hole. Makes me wonder what the hell the walls really are as they certainly weren't built by humans hauling ass from titans. I am just assuming that anime scene was canon although I have read all the current chapters and don't recall seeing it. So many damn mysteries in this show. Also, whoever came up with the plant theory, I totally agree. While it may be totally unrelated and probably is, in ED2 what looks to be Mikasa drops a seed down the wall and the music kicks in. Could be a nut of some kind though instead of a seed lol when did that happen? in the before the fall novel?where can i read it? thanks if you reply |
skittle316 said: MikasaxEren said: If Dr Yeager did give all these titan shifters their "powers", the shouldn't Eren have the best titan form, after all he is his son, and from what we see Dr. Yeager does obviously care about Eren. (Maybe Eren's titan form is the best once he learns to control its abilities fully, It has shown the most brute strength for its size, so it might have the most potential.) I have seen some theories about how people think Eren was adopted by Dr.Yeager, but they have the exact same eyes so i don't think that is the case. I really do want to know what is in the basement though, maybe information on how to make titan shifter serum? That could explain why RBA are trying to exterminate humanity within the walls, because if they could turn themselves into titans, they could come and destroy their home village? I still think that Dr.Yeager experimented on Mikasa, her abilities are noted to be exceptional, that and her close connection to Eren, something just makes me feel that Dr.Yeager has had a hand in her strength as well as Eren's. Eren' titan form isn't similar to a shifter. Which means there is a chance he was a mindless titan but became a shifter through experiments. ince if you look at Bert,Annie and Reiner. There titan forms show muscle tendons while Ymir who used to be a titan and Eren do not. There skin is similar if not the same to other titans minus the abs. Which could also mean that eren has mindless titan DNA with him mixed with his own attributes but he is not a true shifter like BRA. BRA are destroying life in the walls as a mission, which apparently having more shifters is more important than it. Grisha probably did seeing how he visited Mikasa for some odd reason,but it could be something orientals posses. Like others said Mikasa's body clearly shows she trained to be as spectacular as she is. It can't experiments because Annie and Levi are just as good as Mikasa combat wise yet they haven't been experimented on. Like Japanese fams have said, Mikasa probably has the best abilities because Isayama wanted her as the last surviving better than all great Japanese. But Ymir actually was a human who stole something from reiners hometown, wich is probably the vaccine. she is originally a human |
| I wonder how accurate the translation of chapter 47 is. When Bert ask Ymir "Did you still remember who you ate?" she answers "was it one of your comrades?" and then they assume Eren should've eaten someone too. The way she answered make it seems like she instantly understood that she eated one person and so the assumed that eren should've eaten people. They way that conversation went made me think that titans (either normal ones or special cases) need to eat humans (or certain humans) to become humans again themselves. But maybe it's just a misconception. |
Vanisher said: I wonder how accurate the translation of chapter 47 is. When Bert ask Ymir "Did you still remember who you ate?" she answers "was it one of your comrades?" and then they assume Eren should've eaten someone too. The way she answered make it seems like she instantly understood that she eated one person and so the assumed that eren should've eaten people. They way that conversation went made me think that titans (either normal ones or special cases) need to eat humans (or certain humans) to become humans again themselves. But maybe it's just a misconception. I think it was about not-remembering. In Trost he didn't remember that he attacked Mikasa, in Stohess he was half-conscious and asked how is Annie. In the fight on Wall Rose he was conscious most of the time, later he was quicker to remember what happened. Reiner, specifically, displays personality coping issues. Bert seems amnesiac about very specific things that happened to him, but the only one confirmed to eat a human is Ymir. Bert also ate a soldier to take his 3DMG on Rose, but this different, right. I don't remember Annie eating anyone - her biting was part of her defense or counter-attacks. The mindless titans do munch and regurgitate humans, though. I like the idea of them trying to become humans again, because they are pretty well fixed on chewing and preying upon people, not other living creatures. Edit: The case of Ymir is indeed curious. If she doesn't remember for years, how does she know that she eats humans and she is in a titan-form. Either I don't get it, or is some sort of Catch 22 for them, too. Basically, all human-titans share some lagging in consciousness and recall b/w their forms - Annie slept a good time after the Forest offensive, although she looks the most aware in her titan form. Bert perhaps comes next, then Ymir, last Reiner; Eren is under construction so to speak. Oh, and recently Reiner said something about food and sleep being essential for them. |
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