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Jan 3, 2009 12:25 PM
#51
Seems to be staring off well, though I have a feeling the manga will remain better. Still a fun watch. |
Jan 3, 2009 1:06 PM
#52
did ibuki remind anyone of suzaku..? ><;;; thats all i could think about. lmfao. decent ep. may stick around for another 2-3 eps to see if it gets better or whatever |
Jan 3, 2009 1:43 PM
#53
Sylpheed said: I guess all those who have read the manga are disappointed. ... maybe ... XD I'm reading the manga too XD (6 books out in France) and it's really pity this anime is not a true adaptation of the manga >.> I enjoy very much the manga (the books 4, et 6 are even excellent !!), so i'm a little disappointed ... )= One exemple : Keita ? Who is he ?? This guy isn't Keita O_O ... LOL He told "Akane-san" ?? XXD No no the true Keita didn't really have respect (even if he like her) for Akane when he's speaking XD But the episode was ok ! Perhaps if i didn't read the manga before i would like it more ! The animation was correct, the fight was great ! Kuro ^w^ If Sunrise wanted to do an adaptation of the manga, it's a failure ! But if they wanted to do a different adaptation ... maybe ^^ ... maybe it will be a good anime ! =) |
Jan 3, 2009 2:01 PM
#54
Loved it. That was amazing not only the fight scene and the animations... but everything! Especially Kuro! so cute xD at least for me. :p I most likely won't read the manga until after the anime. |
Jan 3, 2009 4:49 PM
#55
Sylpheed said: I guess all those who have read the manga are disappointed. Maybe I should read it too. Well, the main reasons are the major plot changes. They basically took everything involving the characters, their individual situations, and their relationships with each other, threw them out the window Olbermann style, and replaced it with basic, cookie cutter shounen anime stuffs. And from the looks of the preview, there will be more of that in the next episode too. Not to say everything was bad about it. The music and art were on par to Sunrise's usual playing field (especially considering that the manga had a wierd drawing style that gave it an anime feel, but wouldn't transition well into a moving format,) and while it is cookie cutter shounen, that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining. |
Jan 3, 2009 8:40 PM
#56
conankudo4 said: Sylpheed said: I guess all those who have read the manga are disappointed. Maybe I should read it too. Well, the main reasons are the major plot changes. They basically took everything involving the characters, their individual situations, and their relationships with each other, threw them out the window Olbermann style, and replaced it with basic, cookie cutter shounen anime stuffs. And from the looks of the preview, there will be more of that in the next episode too. Not to say everything was bad about it. The music and art were on par to Sunrise's usual playing field (especially considering that the manga had a wierd drawing style that gave it an anime feel, but wouldn't transition well into a moving format,) and while it is cookie cutter shounen, that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining. QFTFT |
Jan 4, 2009 9:36 AM
#57
Jan 4, 2009 10:49 AM
#58
Hmmm, very nice first episode, with an excellent direction and fight scene, great pacing too, and fantastic animation as usual for Sunrise (come on, comparing Kurokami The Animation with Noir.....). As expected, the anime adaptation is much better than the original. The only thing that was really wrong in this episode was the "I will kill my brother" catch phrase by Kuro which was kind of misplaced, but the rest was great. Good work Sunrise, once again. But for sure, the anime and the manga are very different, so it's not really an adaptation of the original work, more a retelling with a different setting for a different audience. Heavy spoilers coming in the spoiler tag, don't read it if you haven't read the manga/manwha. RandomOugi said: The end and the preview show that there's going to be a lot of changes in the plot, since it looks like most of it will be original, I'm hoping for 13 episodes, but since it looks like it's a pretty big project with the international simultaneous release and all, the number might turn out to be around 26. There will be 24 episodes for the series, but the show will differ heavily from the original manga (or manwha if you're considering that it was written by Korean authors) after the 12th episode. Well, it's already differing quite a bit, but the second part will be totally original, that's what I mean. So, to begin with the differences between the original work and the anime, there are some new characters in this introduction, first Risa that was killed in this episode, then Keita's childhood friend that died long ago (well, his doppelliner, not the root) that will be one of the main antagonists of the show along with Kuro's brother obviously. I find it strange too that the only character that they kept the real age of is Akane (Keita and the others are not in high school in the manga but they are already working, so they're more like 22-23), since she was pretty much Keita's love interest, and she seems much older in the series and will probably take the role of the older sister ("Akane-san" made me laugh), so we might be heading to a Kuro x Keita relation which is quite strange for me (but maybe more logical for the targets of this anime). Anyway, it seems from what I saw and already knew, that we'll jump strait to the third volume of the manga then, putting out all the unnecessary stuff that happened in the beginning of the original work. In the end, the series is more like a drama/action anime than the very shonen-ish manga it was taken from, which is really interesting for me. Sunrise did almost everything right in adapting this, and did the best they could out of a quite random original material (at least in the beginning, it gets better after some volumes). I'm not a great fan of the manga, that I found very limited, that's probably why I prefer the anime though. The manga is a bit too violent and gore-ish without telling much of a plot or having interesting character developments, so... |
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Jan 4, 2009 1:46 PM
#59
To me this is just another sci-fi/action/gore anime. I am surprised they use Mars (red) and Saturn(black) in their subject line up with this anime. Heard also the guy with glasses is just a pawn in the whole organization and the real guys are all across the world. |
Jan 4, 2009 4:18 PM
#60
Pretty much what i expected of this series. It was good, hope it doesnt follow the manwha completely. This is the first manwha to anime series ive seen, i thouight that was pretty neat. Ill keep watching |
Jan 4, 2009 5:12 PM
#61
I really loved this episode. The action scene was really good, and I love the animation too. Story is a little awkward, but good enough for me to follow the show. Can't wait on ep 2 :). |
Jan 4, 2009 10:25 PM
#62
Well, I was watching this with my sceptic-hat on, but I have to say it wasn't terrible, which I thought it would be. It seemed to start off fairly slow, which isn't a bad thing if it's done well, but I thought the beginning of this episode dragged on a bit. But once the action began and the premise started to come to the surface, it seemed to keep me entertained. It hardly looks set to rock my world, but it has gained my interest. I shall keep watching. |
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Jan 5, 2009 1:02 AM
#63
MAL's database says that it started airing Dec 27, 2008. Nobody's subbing this yet? |
Jan 5, 2009 1:52 AM
#64
Sylpheed said: MAL's database says that it started airing Dec 27, 2008. Nobody's subbing this yet? Why, I saw a subbed episode on zomganime.com |
Jan 5, 2009 3:46 AM
#65
They changed the story quite a lot :s Anyway, I enjoyed it. It's a lot more violent than the first few chapters of the manga were. |
Jan 5, 2009 4:21 AM
#66
Jan 5, 2009 4:33 AM
#67
I think that was the case. I've watched the pre-release already. Hmmm, who subs this again. I can only see Bandai in Fansub Wiki. |
Jan 5, 2009 2:36 PM
#68
Jan 5, 2009 3:56 PM
#69
Really good start. It was kind of hard to follow because the subbing was pitiful but the animation, characters and actions were really good. |
Jan 5, 2009 4:42 PM
#70
The fight scene near the end was appreciated but the dialogue didn't lose my attention either. Overall it was a nice first episode. |
Jan 5, 2009 6:08 PM
#71
I was kind of unimpressed with this episode. The background music during the fight scene felt quite distracting and out of place to me. I'm not really a fan of gore being coupled with moe female characters a la Elfen Lied so I might not continue with this one^^ |
Jan 5, 2009 10:16 PM
#72
Someone people wanted this! |
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Jan 6, 2009 6:40 AM
#73
marie32 said: Someone people wanted this! That's a good one. Do you have a larger version? |
Jan 6, 2009 1:30 PM
#74
Touka said: Wow, I just watched all of it subbed and I didn't expect for things to be that different! It's quite simply not the manga at all. It fails as an adaption. Half of the episode is original material, what does happen in the manga is shown entirely out of order, Keita is a bitch in the manga but he's a bloody waste in the anime, his character has been totally ruined. Kuro's main line "I'm going to kill my brother" was poorly executed as well. The whole episode also moved way too fast and how are Kuro and Keita suppost to form a contract now his arm didn't even get ripped off? The episode is alright for what it is, but as an adaption it's a failure. I'm really disappointed that it's so different from the manga. My thoughts exactly. I loved the manhwa, which is why I'm hating what is being done with it in this anime adaptation: - Keita going from a 20something year old jackass in the manhwa to a 16 year old dare it say it... emo riddled bitch. - Kuro going from a boxer to a kickboxer (I'm a boxer which is why it pissed me off). - Everything is out of order. - Keita never knew Mayu before hand. - Keita never saw his mom's double in the train but much later on. - And who the f**k is that dude with the glasses? I really hope things improve but judging from the next episode preview, a lot more is gonna be changed from the story. |
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Jan 6, 2009 8:10 PM
#75
Master_M2K said: Touka said: Wow, I just watched all of it subbed and I didn't expect for things to be that different! It's quite simply not the manga at all. It fails as an adaption. Half of the episode is original material, what does happen in the manga is shown entirely out of order, Keita is a bitch in the manga but he's a bloody waste in the anime, his character has been totally ruined. Kuro's main line "I'm going to kill my brother" was poorly executed as well. The whole episode also moved way too fast and how are Kuro and Keita suppost to form a contract now his arm didn't even get ripped off? The episode is alright for what it is, but as an adaption it's a failure. I'm really disappointed that it's so different from the manga. My thoughts exactly. I loved the manhwa, which is why I'm hating what is being done with it in this anime adaptation: - Keita going from a 20something year old jackass in the manhwa to a 16 year old dare it say it... emo riddled bitch. - Kuro going from a boxer to a kickboxer (I'm a boxer which is why it pissed me off). - Everything is out of order. - Keita never knew Mayu before hand. - Keita never saw his mom's double in the train but much later on. - And who the f**k is that dude with the glasses? I really hope things improve but judging from the next episode preview, a lot more is gonna be changed from the story. should i be glad that I didn't read the manhwa so I can have an easier time accepting the anime? |
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Jan 7, 2009 4:25 AM
#76
Ugh. Disappointing. As much as I would like to jump on the "manga is better" bandwagon, I wont. Because the manga isnt just better, its a helluva lot better. I even have this prevailing disposition to ramble on and on on how it fucked up the story and how much it lost its style and charm but instead I'll let my fellow compatriots sweep this. Sunrise did a great job on Gintama, its a shame that they fell flat on Black God. Sure, judging a show by one ep is wrong, but I dont have the luxury of time to find out if it will rise up to the occasion. Im sticking with the manwha. kaminakun said: Master_M2K said: Touka said: Wow, I just watched all of it subbed and I didn't expect for things to be that different! It's quite simply not the manga at all. It fails as an adaption. Half of the episode is original material, what does happen in the manga is shown entirely out of order, Keita is a bitch in the manga but he's a bloody waste in the anime, his character has been totally ruined. Kuro's main line "I'm going to kill my brother" was poorly executed as well. The whole episode also moved way too fast and how are Kuro and Keita suppost to form a contract now his arm didn't even get ripped off? The episode is alright for what it is, but as an adaption it's a failure. I'm really disappointed that it's so different from the manga. My thoughts exactly. I loved the manhwa, which is why I'm hating what is being done with it in this anime adaptation: - Keita going from a 20something year old jackass in the manhwa to a 16 year old dare it say it... emo riddled bitch. - Kuro going from a boxer to a kickboxer (I'm a boxer which is why it pissed me off). - Everything is out of order. - Keita never knew Mayu before hand. - Keita never saw his mom's double in the train but much later on. - And who the f**k is that dude with the glasses? I really hope things improve but judging from the next episode preview, a lot more is gonna be changed from the story. should i be glad that I didn't read the manhwa so I can have an easier time accepting the anime? Wouldve been better off if you join the rest of us, forlorn enthusiasts. Do yourself a favor and take a gander on the manwha. |
Jan 7, 2009 8:46 AM
#77
... I hate to say this given the tone of the conversation up there ^ but... I like the changes. I read Yen Press's preview for the manwha and wasn't in the least impressed to be honest. The fact that they made it so that the main character wasn't a twenty-something loser jerk is probably a smart move especially with people not familiar with the manwha. I know personally if I don't like the main it can turn me off the show/manga/manwha. And that's exactly what happened with KuroKami. Quite frankly I couldn't care so much if Kuro hadn't fixed things in the manga because to me it seemed him dying would have been no real loss. Not entirely won on the anime yet either though, I'll give it a few episodes to see if it catches with me or not. (This seems to be the case with everything I've watched from the new season. Big change from Fall in which several shows had me hook, line, and sinker from the start) |
Jan 7, 2009 5:10 PM
#78
Anime was pretty ... fast, I guess. In a way, it kind of reminded me of a twisted / more violent Index (Toaru Majutsu no Index, that is). Action was pretty good. Quite different, martial arts-y. Mm, IMO this anime seemed like a cross between lots of other anime. But then again, it's all anime, so it's all gonna have something in common, hehe. As Vendettared stated it's different than the manhwa - I've never read it. So I hope this plot isn't rushed or anything. But I don't know yet if I'm going to start... getting into it, reviewing it (blog - haven't been lately 'cause Windows isn't working and Linux sucks for blogs, and I can't figure out how to take AVI snapshots in VLC in Linux - Ubuntu 8.10) and such. But I may watch a few episodes. ~Night |
Jan 7, 2009 11:59 PM
#79
How are you guys watching this!!!!!!!!!???????????? I wanna see to Share!!!! (I prefer the dub) but even if subbed I won't complain! Please help |
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Jan 8, 2009 5:30 AM
#80
Well, I've now read the first two chapters of Black God. It's, well, different. I think that it's a little better than the anime because the plot pacing is better. But I'll have to see more of both. Oh, and older Keita has more chemistry with Akane. Seriously, what's a high schooler doing with a 21-year-old childhood friend? And she's a little less disty in the manga. Kuro's pretty much the same, far as I can tell. But jerk Keita is so much more realistic than emo Keita. Seriously, there must be some requierment that all anime character be unable to recover from childhood trauma. Yeah his mother died under odd circumstances, but that shouldn't make him a depressed fag ~10 years later. |
Jan 8, 2009 2:12 PM
#83
Found some crap subs on Megavideo... The translations were probably from the dub or something, no way a normal person would go to such lenghts to avoid saying the word "doppelganger". I won't even ask if decent subs are coming, because I think I'm going to drop this show anyway. I might watch one more episode, but I doubt it. The synopsis should be changed too since it's got nothing to do with the actual plot. They changed everything... I mean, I was looking forward to some anime where the protagonist isn't a high schooler and they just went and changed everything. |
Jan 9, 2009 6:29 AM
#84
That was not exactly a pleasant watch. |
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Jan 9, 2009 6:38 AM
#85
That was a bit weird but the action scenes were great. |
Jan 9, 2009 7:24 AM
#86
um wtf? |
Jan 9, 2009 10:29 AM
#87
Jan 9, 2009 5:20 PM
#89
Found a DL of the American Dub....It was actually pretty decent, imo. Thou I will always prefer subtitles (personal preference) Im pretty sure Im not allowed to post torrent links here but if ya search a little it is easy to find. (http://www.mininova.org) As for the Anime itself, I personally think it is one of the better shows this Winter (not that there is much this season anyways) I mean it was sorta a shock that they killed 2 potential main/side characters. The main character sorta reminded me of Chaos Head (which I liked) The fight scene imo was amazing, and that combo...damn. It also seems to have pretty high production values, which is always nice. |
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Jan 10, 2009 5:44 AM
#91
Touka said: Wow, I just watched all of it subbed and I didn't expect for things to be that different! It's quite simply not the manga at all. It fails as an adaption. Half of the episode is original material, what does happen in the manga is shown entirely out of order, Keita is a bitch in the manga but he's a bloody waste in the anime, his character has been totally ruined. Kuro's main line "I'm going to kill my brother" was poorly executed as well. The whole episode also moved way too fast and how are Kuro and Keita suppost to form a contract now his arm didn't even get ripped off? I have very little to add to this as far as my thoughts go. Fight scene was okay once Kuro got her head of steam, but still not as good as the manga illustrations of it. From the preview, it looks like they form their contract in the next episode. The question is "Why?" Why change the story in that way? They have to form their contract to have a plot, and the ramen stand fight is when Keita loses his arm. So there was no reason they couldn't have done this just like it was in the manga. Since they have no reason to be hanging out together in the anime yet, it made their meeting at the crosswalk with the little girl a big dumb coincidence. The episode is alright for what it is, but as an adaption it's a failure. I'm really disappointed that it's so different from the manga. Me too. :( Master_M2K said: My thoughts exactly. I loved the manhwa, which is why I'm hating what is being done with it in this anime adaptation: - Keita going from a 20something year old jackass in the manhwa to a 16 year old dare it say it... emo riddled bitch. I'd heard this director is known for playing up the romantic elements in series. Not sure how he's going to do that now that Keita is a high schooler and Akane a milf. :rolleyes: Must be why they created that completely fictional "Yamada" classmate character. I really hope things improve but judging from the next episode preview, a lot more is gonna be changed from the story. I guess I was hoping for a job like Claymore; twenty-something episodes almost straight out of the manga, and then a semi-dumb anime-only ending when they ran out the season. JadeMatrix said: Oh, and older Keita has more chemistry with Akane. Seriously, what's a high schooler doing with a 21-year-old childhood friend? She was supposed to be is guardian when his mom died. I guess this seems more plausible in the anime with the increased age difference, whereas in the manga they both seem to be in their early 20's. But in the anime his acts like his mom's death was a recent event from what he said to the raman stand owner. |
Jan 10, 2009 11:36 AM
#92
Oh hey I saw someone who looks just like-*hit by car* |
Jan 10, 2009 3:08 PM
#93
Somewhat depressing.. The animation is similar to that of Tokyo Majin Gakuen, while the story itself isn't all that far off. It is about the paranormal, mainly relates to deities and supernatural forces. Only differences is that the protagonist this time around is powerless. I was actually expecting the anime to take place in a post-apocalyptic atmosphere, kind of like Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, but it appears that it takes place in modern day Japan, possibly Tokyo but it is not evident. Kuro, the female main character seems to be the same one as the coverart, except that she is actually not evil as depicted and neither does it takes place in a post-apocalyptic planet of some sort. The way Kuro keeps her pet Puni Puni reminds me of Kiba in Naruto and her interest in ramen reminds me of Naruto himself. As soon as her bowl of ramen turned non-edible, Kuro goes into attack mode. Next episode, Kuro will be on the journey to kill her elder brother who seems to be deeply involved with the tragic incidents that keep on occuring with relevance to an individual meeting a splitting image of himself/herself. This seems to give me the impression that the idea could be similar to the ova Interlude where everybody had died due to the apocalypse and they can only be brought back through the computer program that runs like virtual reality, but the situation here is somewhat different.. Why are there 2 splitting images of a single person to exist in the world, when the population remains at it is? Wouldn't it be noticeable that the population of the world were to increase by 3 times suddenly? Even if it is a complete split image, the person would still be considered a different individual meaning that if a bunch of people were to walk on the streets, there would be a huge crowd. Thus, I do not understand the logic of it. By explaining that the population of the world is inclusive of the splitting image don't make sense either, because if that's the case, it would be noticeable all over the places rather than being an urban legend or a rumor. One way or the other, this seems to be rather interesting. When 1 of the splitting image meets another, both will die unless one of them is the root image. The non-root images will die, while the root image will absorb the fates and destinies of the two splitting images, making the already complicated situation even more complicated. I wonder how that works out to be... |
Jan 10, 2009 3:47 PM
#94
loved every moment of it. Best first episode of Winter yet. can't wait for episode 2 |
Jan 10, 2009 10:15 PM
#95
Wow WTF Sunrise really??? Ok Keita better lose his friggin arm, when you can show a girl getting plowed by a truck you can afford to show one lost arm. I have no clue why in god's name they are doing some of these changes, it's not like they are messing around with a slow part of the manga to make it faster paced. It's like the director didn't like the story (some with To-Love Ru) and said screw it I'm doing my own thing. I mean everything else for the most part is fine, the animation, choreography, and music were absolutely excellent. It's just the plot changes that are really grinding my axe. Maybe he reduced Keita's age so more chance or romance with Kuro? |
Jan 10, 2009 10:39 PM
#96
idk dude. idk. Maybe it's because I haven't read the manga, or maybe it's because I had incredibly low expectations, but I thought that shit was pretty cool. The part where she beat the shit out of that guy was incredibly badass. |
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Jan 10, 2009 11:05 PM
#97
Seems to me that they just added gratuitous violence to make up for an incoherent plot. It's as if they were trying to get an Elfen Lied feel and just failed. Well since I have been instilled with low expectations now, it can't really get much worse. 2/5 EDIT:Btw was this anime supposed to be hyped up or something? I didn't even hear about it till just a day or 2 ago lol. |
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Jan 11, 2009 2:09 AM
#98
Many peole say that you can compare Kurokami with Elfen Lied and Shkugan no Shana but it has it own individual aspects. The first episode was really nice and i want to watch more of this serie but i have to say the character style i don't like. I hope we will experience more about the story in the next episode about the thing with the double and more on. |
Jan 11, 2009 5:03 AM
#99
Seriously Shakugan no Shana is just a so-so to me. I find this more interesting than Shakugan no Shana. Anyway, don't be depressed and let's see how it'll progress ^^ |
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