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Additional Info: The break -even-point for most of anime DVDs is about 5,000 copies per volume. If the first week sales doesn't reach 3,000 - 3,500 copies, the anime companies fail to make profit from the anime. In other words, if the first week sales are below 2,500 copies, they will have a debt. ![]() Modified by dtshyk, Dec 24, 2008 7:44 AM |
Boo, Itazura na Kiss only at #109. On a lighter note, good to see CG R2 on the Top 10. ![]() |
dtshyk said: What about sponsors? Are sponsors paying for the anime or just loaning the money? I'm specifically thinking about Zettai Karen Children which is sponsored by McDonald's, I believe.Additional Info: The break -even-point for most of anime DVDs is about 5,000 copies. If the first week sales doesn't reach 3,000 - 3,500 copies, the anime companies fail to make profit from the anime. In other words, if the first week sales are below 2,500 copies, they will have a debt. ![]() |
kuroshiroi said: dtshyk said: What about sponsors? Are sponsors paying for the anime or just loaning the money? I'm specifically thinking about Zettai Karen Children which is sponsored by McDonald's, I believe.Additional Info: The break -even-point for most of anime DVDs is about 5,000 copies. If the first week sales doesn't reach 3,000 - 3,500 copies, the anime companies fail to make profit from the anime. In other words, if the first week sales are below 2,500 copies, they will have a debt. There are two kinds of TV ads (CM). One is sponsors' and the other is what is called "Spot CM". It's an airing block for CM purchased by a company directly from the TV company. There is no financial relationship between the "Spot CM" company and the anime programs. So McDonald has nothing to do with ZetsuKare. Most of the TV ads you see in the anime programs belong to the production committee companies of the anime itself (eg. Kadokawa's anime has CM of Kadokawa's magazines.). The rest of the ads are unrelated "Spot CM". Edit: I think I need to quote this from Shrinking Anime Market: To be or not to be?. Most of the Japanese anime are NOT supported by the intervening TV ads. Anime companies purchase the right of airing from TV companies and put their own DVD release ads or related magazine/manga ads. The airing of anime on TV is considered to be an advertisement of its DVD. DO NOT complain that Japanese fans are enjoying anime for free by the financial support from sponsors. There are no such generous sponsors. Our expenses on DVD directly support the anime industry. ![]() Modified by dtshyk, Dec 24, 2008 7:42 AM |
So what does the "This anime is sponsered by the following companies..." which usually follows the OP mean? Nothing? Seems kind of odd to have something like that if they're not paying for anything. I thought McDonald's in Japan was maybe doing a ZKC tie-in, like having ZKC toys in their happy meals or something like that. TV in Japan is too complicated ;) ![]() |
kuroshiroi said: So what does the "This anime is sponsered by the following companies..." which usually follows the OP mean? Nothing? Seems kind of odd to have something like that if they're not paying for anything. I thought McDonald's in Japan was maybe doing a ZKC tie-in, like having ZKC toys in their happy meals or something like that. TV in Japan is too complicated ;) oops, sorry. I googled to find McDonard's is one of the committee companies of Zettai Karen Children along with Geneon, Konami, Shougaku-kan. It's quite rare a food company participates in anime production. Zettai Karen Children anime is targeting at kids, so there maybe a tie-up as you think. A "production committee" of an anime is a group of companies which invested money for the production of the anime. The system disperses the risk of the failure of the anime. The debt will be dispersed but the profit will also be divided among the companies. It's a "low risk, low return" business. ![]() Modified by dtshyk, Dec 24, 2008 8:14 AM |
dtshyk said: **2, *58,779 Kara no Kyoukai 1: Fukan Fuukei **4, *25,955 Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 **6, *22,847 Mobile Suit Gundam 00 **7, *17,548 Macross Frontier *12, *13,336 Vexille - 2077 Nihon Sakoku Normal Edition *14, *12,090 Appleseed Saga Ex Machina Standard Edition *17, *11,144 Goku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei vol.2 Yes fir these...especially KnK :3 ![]() Modified by Ahenshihael, Dec 24, 2008 8:32 AM |
KrylonBlue said: lol Nijuu Mensou no Musume failed. This and Allison to Lillia makes me sad. And irtiza... D: (Okay, not even I would buy all of allison, but I'd donate if they'd make more anime in such a style...) dtshyk said: Edit: I think I need to quote this from Shrinking Anime Market: To be or not to be?. Most of the Japanese anime are NOT supported by the intervening TV ads. Anime companies purchase the right of airing from TV companies and put their own DVD release ads or related magazine/manga ads. The airing of anime on TV is considered to be an advertisement of its DVD. DO NOT complain that Japanese fans are enjoying anime for free by the financial support from sponsors. There are no such generous sponsors. Our expenses on DVD directly support the anime industry. And yeah, a lot of people fail to realise this. I think more should know. And thanks a lot for this data <3 ![]() |
DMC is at number 66? The most brilliant anime comedy ever sells a pathetic 3700 copies, barely breaking even? Wow. Japanese people have truly shitty taste, and that's a horrible sign for the possibility of a second season. ![]() |
MiKu214 said: dtshyk said: Yay. Does this mean US license?*20, **8,720 Strike Witches Doubt there's enough interest in the western market. Though I hope for a second season. ![]() |
Maora said: Dx is it me, or most of spring 2008 was fail? **4, *25,955 Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 **7, *17,548 Macross Frontier *31, **7,195 To-LOVE-Ru *36, **6,175 Kanokon *54, **4,864 xxxHOLiC - Kei *62, **3,943 Saint Seiya: The Hades Chapter - Elysion *63, **3,926 Da Capo II Second Season *72, **3,278 Chi's Sweet Home *74, **3,040 Kamen no Maid Guy *82, **2,588 Zettai Karen Children ========failed titles========== *90, **2,106 Kure-nai *91, **2,081 Gyagu Manga Biyori 3 *92, **2,012 Wagaya no Oinari-sama. *97, **1,830 Amatsuki 108, **1,278 Blassreiter 109, ***,961 Itazura na Kiss 110, ***,858 Kyou Kara Maou! 3rd Series 112, ***,738 Bus Gamer Allison & Lillia Nabari no Ou Special A The production cost of Gyagu Manga Biyori 3 is relatively small compared to other anime, so it may be successful, I guess. ![]() |
Interesting that Kaiba sold less than 738 copies...clearly, the director is working in the wrong industry. ![]() |
fertygo said: excuse me Special A DVD not yet sales on japan, or really fail on number of sale? It was released on Aug 6th, 2008. Special A DVD volume 1 on Amazon ![]() |
dtshyk said: Maora said: Dx is it me, or most of spring 2008 was fail? **4, *25,955 Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 **7, *17,548 Macross Frontier *31, **7,195 To-LOVE-Ru *36, **6,175 Kanokon *54, **4,864 xxxHOLiC - Kei *62, **3,943 Saint Seiya: The Hades Chapter - Elysion *63, **3,926 Da Capo II Second Season *72, **3,278 Chi's Sweet Home *74, **3,040 Kamen no Maid Guy *82, **2,588 Zettai Karen Children ========failed titles========== *90, **2,106 Kure-nai *91, **2,081 Gyagu Manga Biyori 3 *92, **2,012 Wagaya no Oinari-sama. *97, **1,830 Amatsuki 108, **1,278 Blassreiter 109, ***,961 Itazura na Kiss 110, ***,858 Kyou Kara Maou! 3rd Series 112, ***,738 Bus Gamer Allison & Lillia Nabari no Ou Special A The production cost of Gyagu Manga Biyori 3 is relatively small compared to other anime, so it may be successful, I guess. 10 vs 10 :x at least CG R2 was the most successful. Lulu must have done something. >.> ![]() |
Maora said: 10 vs 10 :x at least CG R2 was the most successful. Lulu must have done something. >.> Gundam 00, Geass R2 and Macross are the three best selling TV anime shows, just depends on how much each sold on blueray for the proper order.. with macross selling the most.. vol 1 being the best selling Blueray title of the year for Japan, anime and live action. ![]() |
fertygo said: i see... it's really surprise, the big name of the seiyuu... can't raise the number of sales n it's good serie houghs, but failed still failed. i think it''s already closed for possibility for sequel Taniguchi Goro (the director of Code Geass) said: "Seven out of ten titles make debts. Profits from small number of successful anime barely compensate us for the debt. That's how we manage the anime business." Source: Nikkei BP Interview ![]() |
damn, evangelion beat everyone else by miles... good to see lucky star is up there ![]() |
dtshyk said: Yes, but it failed. No data available. Wow....just wow. Seriously? It failed? I'm in shock right now. One of the most exciting, fantastic anime ever made, easily the most original, creative work since Cowboy Bebop...and it didn't even sell 700 DVD copies? Whereas the fluff at the top made significant profits? Man, even live action films reward quality at the box office better than this. ![]() |
idk, a lot of the shit that failed i ended up dropping anyway. when you have such a saturated market as japan, its not hard to see why a lot of things fail.... and hard. unlike me state side, and the rest of the world for the most part. we "western societies" eat up just about anything anime since it is a somewhat scarce commodity ![]() |
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