| Reimu. |
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| Yukari's powers are far, far more h4xing than Reimu's (and anyone's), though. But there's no fun in going all-out, all the time. Lazing around is much easier and funner. |
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| Flan :3 |
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| No she's not! |
| >_> Should've seen this coming. I don't want a fight right now. Just go back to my shrine and leave a generous donation please. |
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HakureiReimu said: >_> Should've seen this coming. I don't want a fight right now. Just go back to my shrine and leave a generous donation please. Yukari already placed a gap in the donation box. 8D |
 Maybe once. But do you think Reimu can beat her now? |
| Thank you for giving me a week of nightmares... |
| CIRNO IS STRONGEST! |
De-JaY said: Thank you for giving me a week of nightmares... |
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Akazukin said: Maybe once. But do you think Reimu can beat her now? LOLWUT XD |
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Akazukin said: Maybe once. But do you think Reimu can beat her now? HOLY CRAP, MANSTRESS OF THE GAP. |
| Well if you really think about it Yukari has the secound most hax power. Normally no projectile would ever hit her if she would go all out. If you shoot at her she just needs to create a warp infront of her and your shoot will go in that and then the other side of the warp will be right behind you. So she basically would make you shoot yourself. ( Plus if she makes a gap betwean you're head and body...that is what you call instant death. :P ) The only power more hax then Yukaris is Sakuya. Time control. In stoped time you can do just about anything to you're enemy and he/she would not be able to defend and whats more won't even know what you did cuz even if you torture someone for a year in stoped time, after time starts flowing again the person will feal that torture as if it hapend in an instant. I partialy base this comment on the fact that I'm a very experienced RPG story teller and I never sow any power more broken the dimension and time manipulation. Dimension manipulation can only be beaten by time manipulation if it's used right and time manipulation just can't be beaten except by stuff like " this special power won't work on me for no resune ". |
| Flandre can destroy absolutely anything just by clenching her fist. I think it comes down to who can get their hax power off first. |
| Flandres power still can't hurt someone in another dimension. :P Not just that Yukari can teleport you're projectile right behind you. She can do the same to herself. If she can't negate you're attack for some resune then she simply can dodge by teleporting herself to a different dimension or just very far away or something like that. :P But yeah. If something is fast enough to strike her before she can use her power then thats it. That is why time manipulation owns. :P |
HakureiReimu said: >_> Should've seen this coming. I don't want a fight right now. Just go back to my shrine and leave a generous donation please. shut up impostor. :'< Cirno can be the strongest fairy. Not as if there's many of them anyway. Anyway. flan is a vampire :'< inb4 UV rays killing her. but sure yukari can be the strongest youkai. |
| Oh yeah...Yukari can finish Flandre and Remilia easily. She just have to open a teleport gate whit one side infront of Flandre/Remilia and the other side infront of the sun. :P |
Revillo_Phoenix said: Oh yeah...Yukari can finish Flandre and Remilia easily. She just have to open a teleport gate whit one side infront of Flandre/Remilia and the other side infront of the sun. :P In a world full of superpowered demons and stuff, Yukari is definitely overpowered. ZUN kinda has to put her in a supporting role (IN, SubA) or greatly dumb down her abilities. Though I guess the "dumbing down" can be explained by sheer laziness at times. |
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| :< Yukari opens gates. But Flan just has to think and raise her hand to crush her. Flan's more fast. I prefer Yukari but Flandre's the strongest for me. And Cirno is the strongest... fairy. |
Seishi said: Revillo_Phoenix said: Oh yeah...Yukari can finish Flandre and Remilia easily. She just have to open a teleport gate whit one side infront of Flandre/Remilia and the other side infront of the sun. :P In a world full of superpowered demons and stuff, Yukari is definitely overpowered. ZUN kinda has to put her in a supporting role (IN, SubA) or greatly dumb down her abilities. Though I guess the "dumbing down" can be explained by sheer laziness at times. Agree. Her lazynes ( & nice playfulnes as I never really sow her going agro all out but instead having fun and stuff ) is basically the only flaw in her power. Other then that she could destroy almost any opponent. Yukari has a very tipical role: You know she's powerful. She dose not have to do anything really to make you think it. She don't have to go around destroing things to make you see that she is. She's just very powerful and she knows it too however she won't abuse that for more power over others. She only makes her own life more confortable whitout really hurting anybody. She playes around whit others for fun even if they are weaker then her. She won't use more power then needed in fight and might louse on porpuse cuz for this type of character this is all just a big game where you have fun. ^^ |
Revillo_PhoenixDec 22, 2008 2:05 PM
| Maybe, but Ran isn't on the same level that the other extra bosses. |
| Stronger than a Sister of Scarlet or an immortal Mokou? O___O I agree that Ran is very powerful, but... |
| I don't know all that much about Ran and her powers but I don't thing she would be able to go up against Flandre or Mokou or Suwako. ( No mater how cute and lovable she is she's still a godess. XD ) |
| Well just watched a replay and I'd say that even some of her non-spell card attacks are like WTF. ( At least for me but then again, I'm not all that good. ) |
ArashiKaze said: Sure, Ran isn't the most powerful extra boss if you decided to view this according to the story and doujins/fans perspective. Lemme re-quote my words : Well, in official Touhou games, so far she's the only boss that's placed a level higher than the extra stage. With WTF-ing spell cards. The original games. I can confidently say Mokou in the game is unbelievably easy compared to Ran. Oho. Sorry sorry. Well, since I die against Ran at 55%, maybe I'll be able to "kill" Mokou =3 |
| I think Yukari's and Sakuya's powers are about the same level of haxx x_X Manipulating the borders of space and manipulating time... Could easily own anyone before they even notice it xD |
| Ok. I just remembered. Yuyuko is the strongest, she can invite anyone she wants to death =3 Yuyu-sama <333 |
| But if you exist even after you're dead in this world then that isn't that strong...you can just go ahead and tke revange in the after life. :P Bhaal: Time is just slightly stronger cuz of a few things like Time control needs no target. If a 1000 projectile is coming from lots of directions then you probably have to open more then one gap to counter them all plus you have to notice all of them so you will know to place a gap there as well. ( ok you still can make yourself wanish but that dose not have as good strategic advantage as the one I will tell for time control now. ) However not mater how many incoming projectile there is and no mater how well hiden they are, one time stop will stop them all plus the enemy/s as well and then you can take you're time killing all the defenceless targets and dodge all the stuff coming. Only way to beat a Time manipulator ( or Dimension manipulator or any one else whit proken powers like thise two ) is to kill them whit one hit that takes them by surprise. ( dose not give them enough time to react. ) But yeah Time only slightly wins in my judgemant as well. If I have to judge them from 1-10 I'd say Time is 10 and gap is 9.9. :P |
Revillo_Phoenix said: But if you exist even after you're dead in this world then that isn't that strong...you can just go ahead and tke revange in the after life. :P Bhaal: Time is just slightly stronger cuz of a few things like Time control needs no target. If a 1000 projectile is coming from lots of directions then you probably have to open more then one gap to counter them all plus you have to notice all of them so you will know to place a gap there as well. ( ok you still can make yourself wanish but that dose not have as good strategic advantage as the one I will tell for time control now. ) However not mater how many incoming projectile there is and no mater how well hiden they are, one time stop will stop them all plus the enemy/s as well and then you can take you're time killing all the defenceless targets and dodge all the stuff coming. Only way to beat a Time manipulator ( or Dimension manipulator or any one else whit proken powers like thise two ) is to kill them whit one hit that takes them by surprise. ( dose not give them enough time to react. ) But yeah Time only slightly wins in my judgemant as well. If I have to judge them from 1-10 I'd say Time is 10 and gap is 9.9. :P Sounds fair enough, but judging from the games Sakuya's timestop seems to be somewhat limited to certain small periods of stopping, but I also remembered that she's capable of manipulating space as well xD Well, in a different way though, she can make rooms bigger than they actually appear from the outside for example. |
| Well that is cuz if they played out time manipulation in the game as they should of then it would be 120% imposible to survive. Even if we accept something like she can't stop time for long if Sakuya has time to place 100 knifes in mid air then she also has time to place one in you're face...or two...etc. :P People cerlesly give time control to characters whitout realising that it's basically the most broken power ever. As said before. I'm a very experienced RPG creator, admin and story teller. I tested lots of powers first hand in the rpg I created and so far Dimension and Time manipulation took the title of most broken. A.k.a. Yukari and Sakuya. I didn't actually tested them whit Yukaris and Sakuyas powers but whit general Dimension and Time manipulation. Any way the resoults are that no ordinary player character chould have ever hoped to stend up to either of this two powers. |
| Speaking of all these powers...did Remilia ever use her "Manipulation of Fate"? o.o That sure sounds funny too, but it'd be nice to know to what extent she can manipulate one's fate xD |
Akinori said: thisFlan :3 |
| Bhaal: Yeah...well if I had to decide how it goes then by it's funny name I would be able to create a power more broken the either Time or Dimension manipulation. Say if it works like this then I need no more to say: " You're fate is to be defeated by me. " |
| Yeah, something like that xD "Your fate is to die while taking a dump tomorrow 3 PM." Sounds like an awesome power too, if it DOES work like that xD Guess we'd have to ask ZUN x_X |
What about the self-proclaimed strongest Youkai? (Besides Cirno.) |
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ZoiQ said: youkai moe~ i also tell you, mima is the strongest, so strong that she was declared too imba by zun and thus removed from the game and no one has seen her ever again. Mima is strongest? Okay, to be honest....I agree with you that she is very powerful. |
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| Remilia is the strongest. She defeated Sakuya the time manipulator haxor. Yukari can only be a dimensional haxor. Sakuya's time manipulation is strong, dunno what happens when vs Yukari. Remilia can still say: "Your fate is to be defeted by me". That's why she is the strongest. Relunx |
Relunx said: Remilia is the strongest. She defeated Sakuya the time manipulator haxor. Yukari can only be a dimensional haxor. Sakuya's time manipulation is strong, dunno what happens when vs Yukari. Remilia can still say: "Your fate is to be defeted by me". That's why she is the strongest. Relunx Nah, Remilia can't be the strongest. Even if she was very powerful, Flandre would still be stronger than her. |
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| No, Sanae Kotiya is the strongest. Because to win against Flandre, Yukari or Mima, you would need a miracle. And that is Sanae's power. |
Lemurian said: No, Sanae Kotiya is the strongest. Because to win against Flandre, Yukari or Mima, you would need a miracle. And that is Sanae's power. But you forget that she was beat up by Reimu and Marisa in two games. |
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