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Apr 5, 2013 9:39 AM

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Tommk said:
No, being unique doesn't mean that it will be good. Since the fuck when the majority demands for realistic character designs, what they usually want is better storyline,less cheesey crap,less extreme fanservice,and less cliffhangers. You rarely hear people want ''real life character designs''. We all want the big eyes and beautiful coloured hair.
Just my opinion. I had to let it all out
Well, I just echo what I heard before from some western viewers. Yeah, obsession over story and an overaching plot, allergy to moe and fan service, lack of tolerance for more open-ended development, all true, but there are also many who say they never care about how the characters look and care only about the story, well, let's see those people should not feel disappointed about the character art here then if they really never care about how the character art and design is like when they watch an anime.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:41 AM

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I once said that the character designs for the Aku No Hana manga were horrible. I take it back. Compared to the anime version, those designs are the equivalent of Belldandy and Lum. GODDAMN IS THE ANIME VERSION UGLY!!!
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:42 AM

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symbv said:
Tommk said:
No, being unique doesn't mean that it will be good. Since the fuck when the majority demands for realistic character designs, what they usually want is better storyline,less cheesey crap,less extreme fanservice,and less cliffhangers. You rarely hear people want ''real life character designs''. We all want the big eyes and beautiful coloured hair.
Just my opinion. I had to let it all out
Well, I just echo what I heard before from some western viewers. Yeah, obsession over story and an overaching plot, allergy to moe and fan service, lack of tolerance for more open-ended development, all true, but there are also many who say they never care about how the characters look and care only about the story, well, let's see those people should not feel disappointed about the character art here then if they really never care about how the character art and design is like when they watch an anime.


I think thats the minority lol. If its the majority, all of the current anime will be turned into this.

But wow, their mindset amazes me.
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Apr 5, 2013 9:43 AM

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Well I hated the design of that one girl OP posted but.
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Pictures alone do not show how the true horror of this,

Here, have some gifs instead.








These actually look interesting.
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:44 AM

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MY EYEEEEEES!
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:45 AM

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THE ART IS FOCKING TERRIBLE
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:46 AM

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symbv said:
Well, I just echo what I heard before from some western viewers. Yeah, obsession over story and an overaching plot, allergy to moe and fan service, lack of tolerance for more open-ended development, all true, but there are also many who say they never care about how the characters look and care only about the story, well, let's see those people should not feel disappointed about the character art here then if they really never care about how the character art and design is like when they watch an anime.
I get what you mean it's like how people say graphics don't matter, only gameplay. There needs to be a good balance of both and I appreciate that the studio is trying something different but I just personally don't like this style and it seems to have had an overwhelmingly negative reception so far.
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:49 AM

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Tommk said:
I think thats the minority lol. If its the majority, all of the current anime will be turned into this.
But wow, their mindset amazes me.
Minority maybe, but I have seen quite a few even in MAL, and they can be vocal too. I really wonder whether those people will still insist how little they care about character design after checking this. Personally character design is an important factor for my enjoyment of an anime. I am sure if the character design is changed to what look like in western cartoon I would watch much less anime.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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symbv said:
Well, I just echo what I heard before from some western viewers. Yeah, obsession over story and an overaching plot, allergy to moe and fan service, lack of tolerance for more open-ended development, all true, but there are also many who say they never care about how the characters look and care only about the story, well, let's see those people should not feel disappointed about the character art here then if they really never care about how the character art and design is like when they watch an anime.
I get what you mean it's like how people say graphics don't matter, only gameplay. There needs to be a good balance of both and I appreciate that the studio is trying something different but I just personally don't like this style and it seems to have had an overwhelmingly negative reception so far.


^

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I dont care about what mal users are complaining about it. Its just aint my type, not the influence by others.

So instead of hating on it through the entire series and rating it badly (DragonisMarch = dude that forces himself to watch an entire series to make hate videos on it) .

Imma used the same old usual way, drop it on ep 1 without a rating .
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Apr 5, 2013 9:49 AM
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terrible fck
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:50 AM

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Oh wow is the budget for this 100 yen ? omg i recommend everyone to just read the manga and save your eyes from having cancer like seriously.
 
Apr 5, 2013 9:54 AM

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symbv said:
Tommk said:
I think thats the minority lol. If its the majority, all of the current anime will be turned into this.
But wow, their mindset amazes me.
Minority maybe, but I have seen quite a few even in MAL, and they can be vocal too. I really wonder whether those people will still insist how little they care about character design after checking this. Personally character design is an important factor for my enjoyment of an anime. I am sure if the character design is changed to what look like in western cartoon I would watch much less anime.


Agreed,

But I dont think Roto animation can be used for those type of anime like FMA Brotherhood and etc. Imposibru . So at least those will be safe.

Its just for those slice of life,comedy,drama,school genre
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Apr 5, 2013 9:57 AM

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Tommk said:
But I dont think Roto animation can can be used for those type of anime like FMA Brotherhood and etc. Imposibru . So at least those will be safe.
Its just for those slice of life,comedy,drama,school genre
Well, Hollywood used roto animation before to film science fiction, so it is not just real life comedy and school stuff... Besides, I'd say for Slice of Life, character design is even more important, so I think the chance of it being used in SoL is even slimmer.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:00 AM

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symbv said:
Tommk said:
But I dont think Roto animation can can be used for those type of anime like FMA Brotherhood and etc. Imposibru . So at least those will be safe.
Its just for those slice of life,comedy,drama,school genre
Well, Hollywood used roto animation before to film science fiction, so it is not just real life comedy and school stuff... Besides, I'd say for Slice of Life, character design is even more important, so I think the chance of it being used in SoL is even slimmer.


Oh shit

Oh and looking at the negative response the people are giving out ( I know its too early to judge ) , the chances of roto animation to be used again is kinda slim.

So yeah, peace.
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Apr 5, 2013 10:02 AM

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Zerkalo said:
Well I hated the design of that one girl OP posted but.

These actually look interesting.


It still looks really bad, Frankly I posted these gifs to show how terrible the animation is, the character designs ranged from terrible to decent but what kills this show for me is how they animated it.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:04 AM

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mrstabhappy said:
Zerkalo said:
Well I hated the design of that one girl OP posted but.

These actually look interesting.


It still looks really bad, Frankly I posted these gifs to show how terrible the animation is, the character designs ranged from terrible to decent but what kills this show for me is how they animated it.


I know that. I still think that the second gif looks very interesting
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:07 AM

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Tommk said:
Oh and looking at the negative response the people are giving out ( I know its too early to judge ) , the chances of roto animation to be used again is kinda slim.

The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:09 AM

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Arararraragi-kun said:
Tommk said:
Oh and looking at the negative response the people are giving out ( I know its too early to judge ) , the chances of roto animation to be used again is kinda slim.

The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'


Yeap, what matters , is the audience in japan.

/captain obvious
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Apr 5, 2013 10:12 AM

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Zerkalo said:
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Zerkalo said:
Well I hated the design of that one girl OP posted but.

These actually look interesting.


It still looks really bad, Frankly I posted these gifs to show how terrible the animation is, the character designs ranged from terrible to decent but what kills this show for me is how they animated it.


I know that. I still think that the second gif looks very interesting
That was the worst one, how their faces appear from no where,

Heres how rotoscope is when its done right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZNPdUjaXys#t=1m37s

Now compare it to the gifs

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Apr 5, 2013 10:13 AM

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>Dat character design

Way to ruin a adaptation Zexcs.
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Arararraragi-kun said:
Tommk said:
Oh and looking at the negative response the people are giving out ( I know its too early to judge ) , the chances of roto animation to be used again is kinda slim.

The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'

I hope you realise that it's not just 'here'.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:16 AM

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wailofthebanshee said:
Arararraragi-kun said:
Tommk said:
Oh and looking at the negative response the people are giving out ( I know its too early to judge ) , the chances of roto animation to be used again is kinda slim.

The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'

I hope you realise that it's not just 'here'.
Indeed, the response is bad on 2ch also
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:17 AM

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I found a new manga to read, and a new anime to drop.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:20 AM

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Saw that review of the guy that "wanted to gouge his eyes with cheap chopsticks".

Me: Stop it guys, it can't be that *watches some of episode 1* horrib----

OH.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:21 AM

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Hahaha, this thread is great!
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:25 AM

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Sangfroid said:
I found a new manga to read, and a new anime to drop.


no shit
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Tommk said:
Arararraragi-kun said:
The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'

Yeap, what matters , is the audience in japan.
/captain obvious
And from what I see in Japanese forum, the uproar is even worse there.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:30 AM

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What the fuck is this.

The manga is soooo good,Why did it have to be like this.
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:31 AM

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Let's see how will they animate the rape scene :D

 
Apr 5, 2013 10:33 AM

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I don't understand. Did the author really want his work to be badly ruined like this?
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:35 AM

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parfaited said:
Saw that review of the guy that "wanted to gouge his eyes with cheap chopsticks".

Me: Stop it guys, it can't be that *watches some of episode 1* horrib----

OH.


I had the same reaction..

-Go to my panel
-Saw a guy reviewed it with a 1, and was saying that it's Bad
-In my head, it's a new anime, how could they fuck things up in the first episode
-Saw pics and the gifs
-me : oooohhh, that kind of bad.

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Apr 5, 2013 10:36 AM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
Zerkalo said:
mrstabhappy said:
Zerkalo said:
Well I hated the design of that one girl OP posted but.

These actually look interesting.


It still looks really bad, Frankly I posted these gifs to show how terrible the animation is, the character designs ranged from terrible to decent but what kills this show for me is how they animated it.


I know that. I still think that the second gif looks very interesting
That was the worst one, how their faces appear from no where ,

Heres how rotoscope is when its done right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZNPdUjaXys#t=1m37s

Now compare it to the gifs


Seriously?! That's the thing you didn't like about the gif?
 
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Zerkalo said:
Seriously?! That's the thing you didn't like about the gif?


He's just proving that for a Rotoscope, it was bad and another anime who used this a minor thing did a better job for not obscuring the details.

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Apr 5, 2013 10:42 AM

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Junchi said:
The successor of Inferno Cop has been born!


Please don't insult Inferno Cop. He deserves better than this...
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:43 AM

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The animation here may be well done, but personally I think it's ugly and I'd rather watch black & white 60's anime.

It's just awkward.
 
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jepong003 said:
Let's see how will they animate the rape scene :D


Nooooo, my eyes will be hurt
Well then, I'm off to fakku
 
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Zerkalo said:
Seriously?! That's the thing you didn't like about the gif?


He's just proving that for a Rotoscope, it was bad and another anime who used this a minor thing did a better job for not obscuring the details.


I doubt that he even watch the youtube video. The difference is right there.
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Apr 5, 2013 10:47 AM
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omg I was only joking when I saw the trailer, it didn't want to show how the characters look because the art is bad. I didn't thought that was seriusly the case
 
Apr 5, 2013 10:52 AM

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Don't even have words for this abomination.
Zeratul must slay it!

ビビコードバカァ!

 
Apr 5, 2013 10:56 AM

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Tommk said:
kaimax said:
Zerkalo said:
Seriously?! That's the thing you didn't like about the gif?


He's just proving that for a Rotoscope, it was bad and another anime who used this a minor thing did a better job for not obscuring the details.


I doubt that he even watch the youtube video. The difference is right there.


I don't get your point right now.
Yes the link he posted looks better.
But the thing with the faces was done on purpose so that doesn't say quality of rotoscoping.
 
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symbv said:
but there are also many who say they never care about how the characters look and care only about the story, well, let's see those people should not feel disappointed about the character art here then if they really never care about how the character art and design is like when they watch an anime.


You mean users like this guy?
How can anybody have a high expectation for this? They are going to candy coat the shit out of it so more people like it. Watch as Nanako Saeki ends up being like some over hyper super loli and Sawa Nakamura ends up as some cocky girl like Taiga from Toradora.


Well, he got what he wished for "they didn't hyper sugar coat this indeed"...lol

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Apr 5, 2013 11:18 AM

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If anyone says they like or don't mind the animation and art style of this they are lying or they are wrong.
 
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Zerkalo said:
Tommk said:
kaimax said:
Zerkalo said:
Seriously?! That's the thing you didn't like about the gif?


He's just proving that for a Rotoscope, it was bad and another anime who used this a minor thing did a better job for not obscuring the details.


I doubt that he even watch the youtube video. The difference is right there.


I don't get your point right now.
Yes the link he posted looks better.
But the thing with the faces was done on purpose so that doesn't say quality of rotoscoping.
No it doesnt say the quality for rotoscoping, it says the quality for how badly aku no hana used it, Stuff from the 80's used rotoscoping better than this did.

Aku no hana butchered rotoscope which is normally a really good looking animation choice when not completely half assed like this was
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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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Looks like they're trying to make this looks like even more Seinen and failed miserably.

Ignoring the character visuals, the backgrounds are actually really detailed compared to most titles that has already started airing this season.

I wonder if they're going back using normal animation starting from 2nd episode after seeing people reactions, seems unlikely though.
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What must this happens for the anime I wanted to watch the most this season ?

I'll drop it for now. I'll give it a chance when over, in order to vomit my guts only one day.
 
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symbv said:
Tommk said:
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The negative responses here don't really matter ~Just sayin'

Yeap, what matters , is the audience in japan.
/captain obvious
And from what I see in Japanese forum, the uproar is even worse there.


Oh god, the director must be having a headache now.

Any chance for a remake of this series ?

Yozakura quartet got one.
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I'll just pretend this show never existed and continue to enjoy the manga
 
Apr 5, 2013 11:41 AM

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Oh man, i was so hyped.
This is why i hate animes that don't deserve their good art/animation.
Who is going to watch? Someone make them stop.
 
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jepong003 said:
Let's see how will they animate the rape scene :D


^
THIS.

My guess is that they will skip it.
 
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Ehh, I've seen plenty of anime that have made regrettable animation decisions. This thing looks like a sloppy, ugly beast, but I'm still waiting for the subs to see how it goes. The plot still sounds too interesting for me to pass up. Animation isn't everything.
 
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