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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well, the best is coming up! This episode was very serious in tone. I would think it had one of the most serious tones in this series and I was absolutely into this episode.

So from last time the barrier was to go down and great problems upon the human world. The thing that bothers me is why did the Rosario break in the first place? I mean there is no clues except for ones in the manga, which explains more but that is in the manga not anime. So that's too bad.

I never expected for normal Moka to actually have Tsukune take off her Rosario so that she can put it into place where to will provide power for the barrier to stay. Of course what was shown beforehand, is pretty much a huge possibility which makes me think it must have freaked the normal Moka enough to let herself be gone. Man that sucks for Tsukune since she is the first he fell for in the first season.

Vampire Moka is so funny! In the classroom she cannot hold back her kicking, talk about over combat, she reads a combat style magazine in class.

Kurumu/Mizore/Yukari, I can understand about the breast rub but
Vampire Moka doing that? I can also see that Vampire Moka is falling in love very quickly for Tsukune more than before in the whole series.

Obviously Kokoa would never change her arrogant behaviour of hogging Vampire Moka all to herself that part was funny at least since we all know how fast Vampire Moka gained popularity. No one saw her before being like this unless she was fighting.

Seeing Tsukune suffer, I thought was the most stupidest act let's get to reality in the episode. The Rosario had to be used to save the whole barrier problem, there was no other way, sure Moka is cute but she cannot be here unless someone makes another Rosario for her, Vampire Moka has bigger breasts and nicer body, her eyes are unique and charming and finally this can get fixed. So why would Tsukune be a depressed low down when he can do so much better besides that Vampire Moka LOVES HIM! I can see that from the different reactions happening.

Anyways, the "Tsukune...........Moka.........Tsukune.......Moka" thing did not work at all on me the same way when Vampire Moka was doing it. She sounded way too serious and not cute at all when doing that thing.

There is something going on with the Chairman. Since there are to be three of them guarding the school then I take it one of the others might know what to do, the chairman might leaking some info about all this.

The mothers coming again :D made another great part in this episode. Once again Mizore's mom and Kurumu's mom were great to see fighting for which of their daughters get to marry Tsukune. The best was that they showed Yukari's mom much better than episode #3 when they showed the moms as well as Yukari's father Strangely Yukari's mom does not speak but I think she has telepathy since Yukari can understand immediately which makes me think that her mom can speak to Yukari directly into her mind. Pretty nice that Yukari's mom broke off the fight.

Then Ruby meets Tsukune to tell him I guess what the chairman most likely told her, about getting another Rosario for Vampire Moka. I think the whole bike scene was ok but something told me it could have been done better! At least the music DESIRE ~Jounetsu~ by Mizuki Nana playing in the background was nice to put in.

Poor Vampire Moka, she felt abandoned and not loved. :( BOO! Tsuskune is a woos! He should accept the situation as it is but I understand his feeling in terms of meeting Moka first and having great memories with her in the first season. Although I still wonder why would he not accept the new situation as it is? Is it not all mans fantasy big breasts,nice ass and great eyes?

One more thing The bus driver is in! The bus driver shows up! The bus driver has a cool cigar! :D

1.Bus driver (I am a fan of his :D )
2.Finally showing a decent exposure time of Yukari's mother unlike in episode 3.


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1.Best Kokoa's bat abuse by the mother. Now this scene was quite unique and nicely done.
2.Most favorite part of this episode with Vampire Moka and quite surprised that she did that.
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Dec 18, 2008 9:21 AM

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2.Most favorite part of this episode with Vampire Moka and quite surprised that she did that.

agreed vampire moka is so hawter riiite :DD
i mean she got everything coldness of mizore, big boob of kurumu, n her fighting skillz pwn
triple threat dawg
 
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Dec 18, 2008 9:24 AM
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this is episode was really funny^^ lol
 
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Dec 18, 2008 5:00 PM

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no ghoul this season people :(
 
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Darude said:
no ghoul this season people :(


there's no way they can fit that in....
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Inner Moka rubbing her breasts at Tsukune felt really out of character and was rather stupid.

The border crushing thing was fixed too fast.. now last episode is too predictable :v - I expected a bit more from the last 2 episodes.
 
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Inner Moka rubbing her breasts at Tsukune felt really out of character and was rather stupid.

The border crushing thing was fixed too fast.. now last episode is too predictable :v - I expected a bit more from the last 2 episodes.


could not have said it better myself :D
Tsukune not accepting Vampire Moka was also making me mad
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Dec 23, 2008 10:56 AM

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2.Most favorite part of this episode with Vampire Moka and quite surprised that she did that.

agreed vampire moka is so hawter riiite :DD
i mean she got everything coldness of mizore, big boob of kurumu, n her fighting skillz pwn
triple threat dawg


Lol, Her Expression
 
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Although there's finally going to be a bit of a story in this series, it still just plain sucks in my opinion. I'm not going to expect much from next episode aswell. I bet they're going to end it in some stupid and childlike way again. The first season was way better, lol.
 
Dec 23, 2008 3:25 PM

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hahaha totaly shot down. its really to be expected since she only comes out to fight. she never really had the chance to interact with everyone. thats the trouble of being sealed all the time. suddenly the real one isnt.
 
Dec 23, 2008 3:56 PM

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Well in my opnion season 2 sucks compared to the manga.
I only like the episode where Tsukune comes home and the girls are all waiting there for him.
I also hate the out of character things Vampire Moka does in this episode.
futhermore this episode gives me the feeling that Tsukune only sees Vampire Moka as a tool that fights when he is in trouble and not as a person.
It was Vampire Moka decission to put on the Rosario so I think he should just accept the situation.


Anyway I dont like the way the anime version is done and I hope they dont take anything of this and try to put it in the manga.
 
Dec 23, 2008 3:58 PM

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I feel so sorry for the white haired Moka-san, to get rejected like that and just when she got some more screen time, plus the white haired Moka acted really unnaturally in my opinion and it didn't feel right either way D:
 
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it was good but disappointed that NO AONO TSUKUNE TURNS INTO A GHOUL anyways but it did have some laugh into it. but the thing is that i wished they will make couple more season to rosario vampire and show the ghoul too. that will be good for the ppl who are a bit disappointed
 
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Epic fail. Tsukune is a true ass. You are going to force someone who was trapped and now free(Vampire Moka seems to like being out in the open btw) and then trap them again because you are in love with the false person. Seriously Tsukune should just adapt since this was bound to happen sooner or later. He didn't take Vampire Moka's feelings into consideration and just said screw you. He has to come to grips that he is in love with an illusion that will disappear anyway(I HIGHLY doubt that Vampire Moka will always want to stay trapped)

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Epic fail. Tsukune is a true ass. You are going to force someone who was trapped and now free(Vampire Moka seems to like being out in the open btw) and then trap them again because you are in love with the false person. Seriously Tsukune should just adapt since this was bound to happen sooner or later. He didn't take Vampire Moka's feelings into consideration and just said screw you. He has to come to grips that he is in love with an illusion that will disappear anyway(I HIGHLY doubt that Vampire Moka will always want to stay trapped)


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I see an opportunity for ghoul tsu in the last episode, the driver said "will he come back alive" and rose said that the dude tries to kill everyone that approaches his castle. There is no way that tsu can handle such a threat in human form.
 
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Jarmel said:
Epic fail. Tsukune is a true ass. You are going to force someone who was trapped and now free(Vampire Moka seems to like being out in the open btw) and then trap them again because you are in love with the false person. Seriously Tsukune should just adapt since this was bound to happen sooner or later. He didn't take Vampire Moka's feelings into consideration and just said screw you. He has to come to grips that he is in love with an illusion that will disappear anyway(I HIGHLY doubt that Vampire Moka will always want to stay trapped)


Agreed with you!




Yea tsukune really pissed me off treating the real moka like that. i mean i can see why he would be depressed because if you think about it both sides of moka is what made her "her" in a sense. but to just ignore her treat her like that at the end was wrong. Ive lost respect for him.
 
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Tuskune wants to trap vampire Moka.... that is kinda sad... but I still liked this episode
(a lot better than the rest of the series)

 
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i think that the real moka should kick Tsukune's ass since he waz being a dick to her
 
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i think that the real moka should kick Tsukune's ass since he waz being a dick to her

Yeah that would be something to see.
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Dec 25, 2008 11:06 AM
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Anyone know where I can get the nice slow remix version of "Discotheque" they keep throwing into parts of this episode?
 
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slayer545-sama said:
konablend36 said:
i think that the real moka should kick Tsukune's ass since he waz being a dick to her

Yeah that would be something to see.


Yes, Tsukune is a baka, broke her heart....
 
Dec 27, 2008 12:33 PM

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Best episode this season as far as story line goes, this hole season was a big flop, but there wil most likey be another season and lets hope they get the anime back on track. I hope that the last episode will atleast be intertaning.
 
Dec 28, 2008 8:21 AM

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mhh, Im dissapointed from this episode
the breast rubbing scene with silver hair moka was more than superfluous.
Thats really not her character.

Pinky hair Moka is cuter and Tsukune likes her more.
I think that is ok.

Ok it was hard that he rejected her like this.
But I think this behavior is better than playing Mr Nice guy all the time.
Like he does with the other girls.
Everbody is in love with him,but he threats all of them only as friends
without deciding who should be his girlfriend.
(Im reffering to episode 7, I think it was at Minute19:00)


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Kurumu ftw XD

 
Dec 30, 2008 3:06 PM

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Very interesting episode, vampire Moka triyng tha Tsukune aproches her, lol. Wonder how Tsukune will resolve the problem.

 
Jan 1, 2009 4:43 PM

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I feel sorry for the Inner Moka..
But i can also understand why Tsukune feels that way
Poor guy, tough decisions.
 
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Easily the best episode the whole season. ( not like it was hard to top the rest of the season since it was nothing but random plots)
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Feb 9, 2009 2:37 AM

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Wow this is getting really really good just one more to go and I am done.
 
May 7, 2009 11:20 AM

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pfff Tsukune is a damm perveted guy he is just playing dumb to keep all the girls on his side :p
 
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Awesome episode. Here's a hope for a good ending!
 
Aug 22, 2009 7:22 PM

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This will be hard Tsukune getting used to the Outer Moka, and after says that Moka was just an illusion... it hurt a lot
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kaminakun said:
HoaRy said:
Inner Moka rubbing her breasts at Tsukune felt really out of character and was rather stupid.

The border crushing thing was fixed too fast.. now last episode is too predictable :v - I expected a bit more from the last 2 episodes.


could not have said it better myself :D
Tsukune not accepting Vampire Moka was also making me mad
i totally agree. i mean inner moka is sooooooooo much better in my opinion
 
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Jarmel said:
Epic fail. Tsukune is a true ass. You are going to force someone who was trapped and now free(Vampire Moka seems to like being out in the open btw) and then trap them again because you are in love with the false person. Seriously Tsukune should just adapt since this was bound to happen sooner or later. He didn't take Vampire Moka's feelings into consideration and just said screw you. He has to come to grips that he is in love with an illusion that will disappear anyway(I HIGHLY doubt that Vampire Moka will always want to stay trapped)




u totally said it. i also agree with this. well said. i give this a 10 out of ten. i dont see how alot of plp like this ep. or at lease the the last two. give the inner moka a chance to be outside of that stupid rosario. she also likes tsukune. and he likes her too(in the beginning) and should adapt with this. and moka chose to give her rosario away. why not respect that decision. inner moka shall kick ur ass untill ur fucked!
 
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I feel bad for Vampire Moka. She likes Tsukune just as much as the other Moka and he doesn't even treat her like he treats the other girls. She tried to get his attention but he doesn't want it....what an ASS! I remeber in the last season he said something about liking the other Moka too...wtf happened to that?

Even if the other Moka does come back don't you think she would be upset at Tsukune too for treating her other half that way? It is, afterall, her true self. I mean its practically a package deal. You get one, you get the other.

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Wow, I'm totally pissed at Tsukune right now. Srsly.

What a Selfish, arrogant jerk. Like other comments said. Pink MOka is just an illusion. gawd. I want to kill him now. -_-
 
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This episode was hilarious! XD It was funny how inner-Moka was trying so hard to keep up with the others. But I agree, Tsukune didn't have to be THAT depressed about losing the other-Moka. -__- I'd be ok if he were at least a bit less depressed. Inner-Moka is hot enough and tried SO hard for him.
 
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started off depressing but ended the ep on a high note.

i hope the last ep doesnt disappoint me.
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I practically cried after this episode. Very sad episode indeed.

I feel bad for the Vampire Mocha, all she's done and all. Hopefully the last episode doesn't disappoint me.
 
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For this episode , this deserves a 6/10
 
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skymaster said:
slayer545-sama said:
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i think that the real moka should kick Tsukune's ass since he waz being a dick to her

Yeah that would be something to see.


Yes, Tsukune is a baka, broke her heart....


come on, give him a slack!!! he cant decide between thous 2, cause there are 2 persons in 1 body, if he chooses one the other disappears/dies, its impossible to choose!!! but Yes he shod have explained it better

in outer Moka there are inner Mokas traits shown to, so that makes me believe that outer Moka is not totally fake it part of her what inner Moka suppresses deep inside herself, or at leas she was created of that part what inner Moka suppresses

it wold never work (Tsukune x Inner Moka) cause of her cold personality, any guy who dates inner Moka they wold feel lonely (& they wold brake up sooner or later), well most of the time, for a lot of reasons, 1 she never shows her feelings, my point is it will never work until ice in her heart melts away & she becomes more like the other girls
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They changed many things compared to manga.

 
Jul 31, 2013 11:56 PM

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cool episode..
hmm.. so our moka has gone.. hmm gonna miss her.. :3
but, looks like tsukune trying to get her back :3

and btw.. I realize something... idk if its true or not but.. is the bus driver one of 3 strongest devil? XD
 
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Pretty weird to see Moka that way, if she had just a bit more emotion then she would be a bit more lovely but now she's totally monotone and boring which is sad... but well this sure is some nice development so let's see what the last episode has to offer us!
 
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This episode actually almost made me cry. I miss the old Moka, I love the real Moka too but she doesn't show enough emotion like the other Moka does. Let's hope Tsukune gets the old Moka back!
 
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I’m glad to see that the outer Moka found her own way of helping and protecting her friends; it was sad to see her go. It was nice of the group to try and adjust and funny seeing the “Inner” Moka, who is beautiful by way, trying to fit in: the newspaper club, the staring into each other eyes scene, and her rubbing her chest against Tsukune. By the end of the episode, I can understand why Tsukune left.

Everyone was moving on and planning their futures, but Tsukune couldn’t really see his future without all of his friends there, which would include both Mokas. And as far romance goes, to have one possible partner gone was a really bummer because he never would’ve known otherwise if she was the one, fake or not. He might have been a little selfish, but some of the girls were selfish as well, since they saw this as a chance to move in as their biggest competition was gone.

As far as the last scene is concerned, I don’t think that Tsukune just flat out denied the “Inner” Moka or that she wasn’t good enough. It just has to do with the fact that he cares for all of his friends deeply; I mean, in the previous episode, he just finished saying that all of his friends were “irreplaceable”, and to have everyone say that this is the one and only Moka just didn’t work for him. He loves them both surely :)
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Good ep but this season sucks ass. Even if last ep is as good as this one, can't give it more than 6/10.

Bus driver rocks
 
Jul 13, 2014 6:38 AM

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So vampire Moka seemed very sad when Tsukune decided to go off for another rosary.
 
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I remember at the end of the first season, Tsukune was questioning if it wasn't the inner Moka he was in love with. Well, it doesn't appear he's questioning that now, considering he couldn't seem to care less about her presence this time. Seems she's just the one he turns to when he's in a jam and needs someone to bail his ass. Man, what a dick. I feel bad for the real Moka that she cares about someone who clearly is only interested in her dumbed down "phantom" personality. I mean, she was really trying to fit in, but nobody wants her around (aside from her unbelievably irritating little sister). They just want the fake.

And on that note, I'm wondering how the "phantom" Moka even came to be. Does the rosary actually create a second personality in her? Or does it just bind the violent parts of her personality but retain the more... loveable parts, creating just a happier, more peaceful version of the same person - kinda like a Moka on pot? These are questions that had better be answered in the final episode.



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he dose love them both (both Moka's), but he was in a hurry so he could not explain & second right new he dose't even know how to explain it, how to express hes feelings, he just cant accept that one of them is gone, he would react the same if that silver haired Moka would be gone

pink haired Moka is The white haired Moka, more accurately Pink haire Moka is the Part of White haired Moka what she suppresses, the part that White haired Moka keeps locked Up deep inside her & that Rosario took that part out of the cage & made it look like it her second personality & another person, if she would stop being a shut in then the other Moka would get out & then she would act like the Pink haired Moka

i'm saying this cause Manga explained about both Moka's better then anime

& the reason the Rosario was made, cause she was unable to make Friends, & finding BF even more impossible, so it was decided to make the Rosario to bring out Moka's Cute & innocent Self, so she could have Good & normal school life

i bet that the buss driver is also one of the drack lords
 
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Resume of this episode: Silver-haired Moka-san, we just liked you to protect us, Ok? Can you back now? When we get in trouble again then you come to save us, Ok? Thanks.

The End.

Just like that. Pathetic.
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