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| This series tackled some interesting concepts about racial discrimination and how far one can go to justify their actions as well as the formation of a society and how it can change while still retaining some elements from the ones before it, the perception of a human being is limited due to the society he was raised in therefore what the majority of the society thinks to be inherently good or bad will be what the individual thinks as well, once an individual is exposed to a foreign society he will form his own interpretation of what is good or bad, chances are if two people are raised in the same place they will more or less have the same interpretation and they will be able to see the flaws in their society. For a story of such a grand scale it really should have been a little bit longer for it to properly communicate those themes since it tries to tackle a lot, the pacing itself was uneven at some places but fine overall, it reminded me of Legend of the Galactic Heroes where the history of the world is slowly shown to us and once we know how everything ties together it resolves all that it was trying to say, LoGH is quite long and the story isn't needlessly stretched out either, it was given a sufficient run time to properly conclude everything it had to say, for this anime they could've added a lot more to the story and made sure everything added is meaningful therefore either increasing the runtime of each episode or the number of episodes would've been an easier solution. This way everything it tried to say could've been a lot more nuanced which unfortunately is not the case. The character designs were pretty boring on top of that and if they wanted to favor movement over details then they should have given the designs more unique distinguishable features that were easier to draw which many anime do if they don't have the budget, the characters weren't bad I liked their growth but their personalities weren't all that unique and while they aren't the worst cast ever made they are nothing great either. For me the last 6 episodes felt somewhat rushed and they could've left a bigger impact if given more time the ending however makes up for that and resolves everything in a way that is somewhat satisfactory yet the build up was so terrible that the whole show fails to have as much of an impact as it could've had, all I see in this story is a very well thought out world with some interesting visuals here and there that could've been executed a lot better. 6/10 |
RapidShadowOct 23, 2018 8:07 AM
| Squealer woke as fuck tbh, Squealer was the hero of the series. I thought the ending was really dark, this show has the classic sci fi premise of like rich/beautiful/special people living luxurious lives in a segregated area while the poor/ugly/natural people are forced to live in squalor/slavery and living in caves and shit but the oppressors win in the end. How brutal, poor queerats. Fucking awesome show and ending |
| Okay, what I don't get is why Yakomaru insisted he was named Squealer when he first got to the court-- meaning he threw away his human name... and then moments later, claimed that he's human too. I don't get it???? Lol xD If you wanna say you're human too, why do you detest the name Yakomaru? .-. Confused. Anyways. Moving on, haha. Why was Satoru the only one blushing? SMH @ SAKI LOL. Oh well. I guess it's alright for a change hahaha xD 8/10 for this series. The plot was very well thought out and executed, it was unique, there were thrills and feels all over (: Well done. It deserves the good rating that it has ^^ best boi still Shun <3 but I'm not mad about SatoruXSaki. He's been good to her too ^-^ as long as our bby guh is in good hands, no complaints :D I've never seen an anime with so many fucking timeskips either LOLOLOLLLLL |
Kokoro_KotashimaDec 21, 2018 7:19 PM
| Holy shit this anime was fucking amazing, didn't expect this at all and almost dropped it after the boring ass first 3 episodes, glad I haven't. Man I never saw that twist coming that all the Queerats were the the original non Cantus Humans. Kinda makes sense tho, I always wondered in the back of mind where the hell all the normal humans were. Cant believe im saying this but I do feel sorry for Squeler. He had the same justified reason like Kiroumaru, he just happend to find his weapon of mass destruction (Marias Kid) unlike Kiroumaru (His first Tokyo search) and could act sooner. Still glad hes dead tho for all his lying bullshit lol Man I expexted 100% that Saki and Satou marry but I atleast hoped that they had a child together and name it Shun, rip |
| And thus ends my first rewatch in 5 years. That I could remember most key moments shows how much impact this anime had. Plot wise some questions popped up - Tomoko was 267 years old but the date was year 237. So the time reset when she was 30? Maybe she was 30 when the fiend K showed up? might fit, but I cant guess her age at all. Also, death feedback. As seen by Saki burning Marias child it doesnt activate when you only hurt someone and you dont kill her directly. Why not just let the caves collapse on her to begin with? Why not just bury her alive like Shisei sort of did, if she suffocates thats not really your problem. But who cares.- I certainly dont. Seeing Marias child suffer like that due to death feedback was cruel. Neither Maria nor her child deserved this. Also the flashback, why show her again, why? It always makes me incredibly sad. Squealer standing next to their dead "messiah" looking completely broken was a powerfull scene as well. Other scenes would need long build ups and lots of added drama to be this impactfull. And then the trial. We are human! As Saki and Satouru find out shortly after, he was right. This was strongly hinted at from the beginning, but after everything which happened its easy to forget these hints. Because of this its also hard to completely hate Squealer for me, as Shinsekai Yori easily could have been the story of the cunning Squealer trying to free his people from opression. Just that this time we are the oppressors. I cant come around thinking about their situation and what I would have done. Also, were the scientists who created this kind of world right? In the end it was never clearly explained what cantus was or how it came into existence, as said earlier in the show, its a truly terrifying power. And we saw how the world was before they did something. Satouru rational as always somehow manages to calm my and Sakis mind. "They arent humans after all. Do you consider them your kind?" Maybe this was also a hint about our society and how we abuse those without power today, its always easier to think of others as something lesser. "I vow to subject him to agony no living being has ever suffered before." And she was right, one of the scariest punishments in anime. Atleast this grim final ends on a somewhat happy note with Saki and Satouro living as a family about to get a child, hoping for a better future for it. "The power of imagination is what changes everything." I have to say it took me way longer than anticipated to finish this rewatch, it became more bingeable around the middle, even though I liked the beginng even more than I remembered. The quality of animation isnt the best and the OST is also limited, though it always manages to fit the mood - eery, noctalgic and magical and the EDs made it on my playlist all those years ago. But those were never the selling points of Shinsekai Yori. It was the story, the characters and the world. I consider it a truly unique setting of dystopia. Most either devolve into some scavenger societies or evolve into high tech sci fi societies. Shinsekai Yori is different. There arent some gangs fighting over control of the desert, there arent some megacorporations ruling the planet. I really like that. Shinsekai Yori remains one of my favourite shows ever, I think Im even going to read the LNs at some point. 9/10 @NanakoAC Where was it ever stated that Saki lost her position? I think you took this final the completely wrong way, lol. In fact, it seems like you didnt understand the entire show. It was stated over and over again that Sakis "strength" wasnt to always remain calm, it was to recover and learn from it. The one with the rational decisions was always Satouru. Also you somehow managed to not understand the terror of cantus. How. You saw what a single fiend did. Of course they are scared as fuck. Tomoko explained it, its a weapon of mass destruction with unlimited energy. Your utterly nonsensical comment completely ruined my mood after this great final. Good job. |
Comander-07Apr 27, 2019 11:08 AM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| I can't say that I don't enjoy this series. I enjoy it, but I don't love it. If only they spent more time on characterization and tried to answer a lot of unanswered questions, this series would have been a masterpiece. The idea is very thought-provoking but it was dragged down by the lack of good characters and explanations. Not to mention inconsistent art quality and bad directing. The EDs fit the theme very well and I love them. The OP, even though only used once, is also great. In the end, the originality and atmosphere alone already makes this show very unique and worth watching. I'd need a lot of time to digest everything in this show. 7/10 |
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| That was a good anime. After all of the messed up stuff that happened to the people in the show, I couldn't wait for Squealer to suffer, but I ended up somewhat sympathizing with him. It should be known that the Monster Rats really aren't humans anymore. Satoru was right about that. I think it's a "Super Mutant" type of situation. Most of them are more monstrous than anything, and are shown to be not nearly as intelligent as humans, even though Squealer would have you believe otherwise. A lot of them definitely show human levels of intelligence, but the majority are more monster than anything. It makes sense that to some degree, they need to be kept in check by the humans. You wouldn't want to live in a town with Chimpanzees or Orangutans, right? Now I do think the humans in this show's case were too cruel in general. They should have never created these monsters in the first place. The Monster Rats will definitely be genocided, but maybe it's for the best. I sympathize with Saki's decision to put Squealer out of his misery. Overall, Shinsekai Yori was a good show. EDIT: Updated signature because Tinypic is shutting down.  |
PikslapJul 28, 2019 6:24 PM
| (10 years and 2000 sexual intercourses later...) Think: Lookism. 8/10 |
| They gave the problem with sakis sister a good ep and mentioned her quite a few times just to never expand on it,shun was supposed to be such an important character but his death didn’t phase me because it almost seemed like he was “coming back” or that he was alive,i wish they could’ve made his death for impactful rather than a “he might be dead he might not be” Well,it was a journey (even if i finished it in 2 days,it was still quite something). It started off really strong around ep 4 that I literally could not stop my self from wanting to watch another ep and its been a hot minute since ive felt that way but after ep 17 when the time lap happens it kinda went down imo. How did marias child get killed? Was i not paying attention? I don’t understand. Why did the queerat that looked like a lion have to sacrifice him self? Either way the ending was still very good compared to average and especially since i thought it was gonna end sad,im happy they got married,that they are happy! I liked the museum part where they showed what it was like rather than trying to hide it like the past generations,hopefully if they are more open they will prevent such things from happening again. A good 8/10,the ost wasnt that good nor was the animation at certain points i thought it was a gag but it was just the way it was animated- The story though? 10/10,i wonder if this is how the novel ended up too otherwise id pick it up. |
"those who aren't able to find a more miserable person than themselves turn to the internet and call others losers,even though they've never met"- Satou from nhk |
| The final twist was predictable, but it was a very enjoyable watch. 10/10 |
| I definitely predicted the twist, but how Saki brings it up to Satoru, and begins to explain the meaning of the kanji used, was really cool. I really enjoyed the whole thing with Squealer attempting to argue that they're just as human. Very thought provoking. Still confused about how Squealer gave Mamoru's and Maria's bones and teeth to the council to prove their deaths. Were they real teeth and bones? Because I would assume that the humans have advanced enough technology to figure out whether teeth truly do match records... or were they real bones that the monster rats had after the two died... but in that time, when was Maria impregnated? Just a confusing point. |
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| I came with the theory that even MARIA helped Squealer to burn down that opressive society. Maria was not killed, she sacrifice herself in order to let her daughter put an end in everything she and Mimoru thought was wrong in that society. She strongly pointed this in her final message in the anime. Also, i realised that the rats were humans since the camping episodes. That was pretty much obvious after listen the history from the Library Creature, with the question open about what happened to the not psychic humans. If that society was better built, they could deal with Ogres (psycho personality) with the help of the rat humans, without need to kill children for any minor reason. A lack of imagination that Saki could fix. The number of children killed along the centuries was much worse than the random rare appear of ogres. |
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| I watched Digibro's video right after the final episode, and I agree with everything he says, lol. I was going to give it a 1/10 anyway before seeing his thoughts, but now it feels so much more justified haha. And I feel bad for anyone who projects themselves more onto the queerats than the humans in this show. |
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| This was really good but it pissed me off so much about the whole romance thing. They gave Maria to that fucking loser Mamoru instead? I hated Mamoru from the beginning of the show and he even steals the girl from Saki which pissed me off even more. I give it a 8 but would be a 9 if not for that bullshit. |
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| I liked this ending all things considered, but I expected to like this show a whole lot more than I did overall. |
| They actually don't have to sacrifice Kiroumaru. Just order him to charge swiftly at the fiend and kill it. Maybe Saki silently wants to clear the chance of a rebellion by queerat, as Kiroumaru has mentioned that he intended to rebel to human in the past. Just as I expected the queerat is actually a human. They didn't explain just what a Minoshiro is. I mean, so far they only show the False Minoshiro. Maybe there's nothing special about that animal, it's just that the human randomly choose Minoshiro as a model for the mobile library out of the blue. Well they all have their own definiton of Human. The mystery is why the scientist implant a Death Feedback in their own genes if they want to remain superior to the other tribes. This whole massascre happened becuase of Tomiko's experiment to give people a freedom of thought, though it's not a full freedom, maybe if Tomiko give a full freedom of thought this wouldn't happen. That ending with an echo of children laughing in a silent and empty corridor, gives a bad future vibe. But as the last quote said "The power of imagination is what changes everything. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| Bravo. I don't know why I waited so long to watch this. Sensational. |
| After finishing this slightly long journey of 25 episodes, I could see why this was rated pretty high. This is definitely a good show. While it's not exactly my preference, I would not hesitate to recommend this. 7/10. |
| A brilliant final episode with a bittersweet ending. Though the fight with the fiend was over pretty quickly, Kiroumaru's death with the slow-motion sequence was great. Saki and Satoru's conversation with Squealer and the courtroom scene were very powerful. Even though I'd wanted Squealer to die, seeing him being a just a lump of mass was horrible. Glad Saki decided to end his suffering. And the reveal about the Queerats being non-Cantus users was and especially the fact that the Cantus users deliberately made them into this is shocking and horrifying. Loved that Saki and Satoru got married and their scenes after the timeskip. The flashbacks wth Saki's parents and the other Group One members was quite sad when you remember how much has been lost, but seeing them moving on was sweet and also with the quote at the end. I absolutely loved this series. The story and world building were just so enthralling and intriguing. In the end, nobody was right or wrong. Everyone had their own reasons and motives for doing the horrible thing they did. It's a show that just makes you think so much. It was perfect at building the exact atmosphere needed to keep me at the edge of my seat everytime. The character designs are simple but I really like them. Yes, it had quite some problems, but it still remains one of the best I've seen. |
  I want to know what it is, this 'sin' they say I've committed. |
| Party positive ending. I was hoping to see a sad ending. But it was not bad at all. Saki and Sataru get end up together. I feel sorry Yaokimaru his motive is bit bad. He shows us the true nature of human. Starting of the anime was way stronger than the ending. But it was not bad at all. |
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Xaelath said: It could be an awesome drama if they pushed it abit without dragging too much.. I dont have any comment about the animation the first few episodes 1-4 is quite amazing, it fells on 5 and return to normal again on 6. I expect the kid was Maria, but it seems they make it the Fiend their Kids instead. Theres some stuff i would question too, what exactly happen to w Maria and Mamoru when their bone discovered with the exact same DNA. Shouldnt they live to make the baby first? or right after the "Search and Retrieve" they had sex . Later they were killed by the Squeerats and taken their baby. Well i would say the best twist are Squeerats are Human, I thought kidnapped/missing children turned into one but i guess they just disposed/killed. They basically inject the mammals dna and turning them(human) to weird or mutated monster.. Scientist did it right..? The people who doesnt had the Power.. they're turned into one. Such fate, but its necessary to maintain peace... or is it? In exchange of turning them into one, the one who had the power also given a "Death feedback" so none of them kill each other. The terms of Fiend basically a human who doesnt think himself as one and his enemy, basically negating the death feedback effect, but it will also applied if the person think he/she killed one of his/her kin. The real Fiend wouldnt think had that issue ( i think), thus making the fiend heselfr/himself could kill anyone without Death Feedback issue. In the end no one is right and no one is wrong. Finished it in 2 Days I actually like Saki and Maria relationship, that also includes Saki and Shun relationship. Sadly both killed too soon.. At least Maria get alots of development. I was expecting Maria to be a fiend isntead of her kid, it would make alot of drama and question her friendship and choice. Seems the story only applied to Japan country, theres alot of animation that also shows the school from different country but i guess thats not necessary. The anime get darkers every episode isnt it..? Also the Shin what person that could split the earth in to two is laughable.. So we saw in the end that Saki get her memory back. And she remember about Shun. But she didn't say a word to Sataru. So my point is will Sataru gonna remember almost Shin in future? Until unless Saki will bring this up. |
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| Damn people are really tugging this series ballsack it was just aight 6/10 plot-wise for me. 8.5/10 enjoyability wise tho a very interesting watch |
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| So in the end it was really just about the queerats vs humans, when all I cared about was the mysteries of this society and Saki's group of friends and their fates etc. The show definitely went in the wrong direction imo. |
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Momono said: Very nice, I would rate this 10/10 but -1 because of the controversial episodes (9/10) You deducted a point because you're homophobic? Lmaooooooo |
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| When I thought dropping the shows in half first episodes of the series, it just turned out to be masterpiece till the end. Excellent! |
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| jesus. this anime was absolutely madness from the beginning to end. i picked this up without reading the horror label and...i really have no words to describe what I just watched. honestly, my heart is still racing and my head and heart hurts. the beginning was really disorienting but i think the way the story was told really encapsulates the horrors and confusion of what it means to be human. i love all of the mains and my heart was so scared that satouru was going to be killed off lmao (he is the best) watching this anime in a pandemic and our current world, i think a lot about the ending and the bigger meaning and how the creators decided to resolve the end. i think the message is in line to what humanity is really. squealer wasn't wrong, he was human. and the way they even mocked him in the trial says it all about how we (as humans) treat others to be subhumans, or who deserves to live etc... it was hard to find the perfect ending no doubt, but i think in this situation the whole getting married and having a kid for the greater good of humanity or whatever was kinda cheesy, but, they needed some hope at the end and to slow down the momentum of the story, so im not too terribly upset. i kinda like the romance hehe. i still think about the death of shun, the disposal of the children, and how squealer probably killed maria and mamouru which still grips me. definately an unforgettable anime. |
  Although we part as I leave for Inaba, —Hyakunin Isshu (小倉百人一首): where pines grow on the moutain peaks If I am to hear that you pine for me I shall come back to you again Poem #16 "Tachiwakare"© |
| Contrary to what many people think, I think the characters here are well written for a very plot driven show. There really isn't much to grow when almost everybody is an established character since the beginning. They've been consistent all throughout and their development is explained when they do change. |
| Great series. I thoug I was going to deslike it judging by the events on the first episodes without any clear explanations, the death feedback shit, the cat, the rats and the fiend/karma demon, not much explanations at all, but everything got clear by the end. The OST, despite of being short, it was very well used on the right moments, specially the girls's choir, very beautiful and yet mysterious. 9/10. |
| I neither agree nor disagree, on the contrary. |
| Despite losing its way towards the end for me, and the pacing of this episode, I felt that this was a pretty strong end towards resolving everything and even showing a little epilogue with Saki and Satoru married with a kid coming soon. They've sure been through a hell of a lot in their lives from when they were really young, but at least the hope they still have for society is still nice, to say the least. 6/10 overall for me. It had its moments where I wanted to give it a 5, and moments where I wanted to increase the score too but I feel this is just about right for my personal feelings. A fine show that could have been great with more consistency and better writing, especially character writing for some of the cast members here. Saki at least improved a lot and grew to be a good character by the end which is nice. |
| Just finished binging through the 25 episodes in three days and wow, this anime totally went in a different direction than I thought. I'm slightly annoyed at how readily Saki was wiling to sacrifice Kiroumaru when she selfishly destroyed the psychobuster cause she didn't want Satoru to die. It makes sense and it cements the idea of how selfish humans are, but still. The big reveal of queerats technically being humans was chilling, although I've always suspected it. I could empathize with Squealer, although of course his way of doing things wasn't morally right. But I'd say his actions were pretty justified and he's honestly the best character in this show for me. Overall I'd say I liked it. It definitely had a slow start like many people say, but it really started to kick off at episode 12 for me when the backstory of fiends was explained. My main problems were in the characters and the limited use of cantus. I did not like any of the main characters, including Saki. She didn't have a very interesting personality and it felt like she didn't do much, considering how we were always following her POV. She rarely uses her cantus well, isn't very intelligent, often listens to other people's plans without much thought/skepticism, and always has to count on someone else to save her (Satoru, Kiroumaru, Tomiko, Inui, etc.). Seriously, why was she chosen to succeed Tomiko? Yeah sure, she's brave and her mental stability is great but other than that...eh. I liked her decision to finally let Squealer die at least. The other characters weren't really fleshed out well either; there were too many time skips and I couldn't care less when Shun, Maria, Mamoru died. But otherwise, I really liked the story; the worldbuilding and portrayal of gray morality were particularly brilliant. The utopia/dystopia setting and Squealer definitely carried this whole show for me. Pretty similar to Psycho Pass with Makishima, although I liked the main characters in that show at least. Ultimately I'd give it a 8/10, might slightly increase or decrease as time goes on as I let what I just watched fully sink in. Edit: So it's been several days and I've decided to bump the score up to a 8.5/10 and rate the anime a 9 overall, cause the setting/world-building and portrayal of gray human morality is truly phenomenal and one of the best imo. If anyone has bothered to read this far, please feel free to recommend me any more anime with those qualities cause I'm dying to know. |
XiaoNov 28, 2020 6:05 PM
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| 7/10, mainly because of how stupid and annoying all the humans were. Overall though it was pretty good, especially the ending. Its worth enough to give this series a try. Kinda sad Kiroumaru didn't get enough screen time, they even forgot about the guy who saved saki in previous episode :( Also those who are complaining about the non-existent plot holes in this show really needs to rewatch it properly. Every question about those "plot holes" gets answered in the show itself. Otherwise please don't bother rating or commenting about it. |
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