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Mar 21, 2013 6:28 PM

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rafi160 said:
Bittersweet ending though

How it was bittersweet ending?
 
Mar 21, 2013 6:42 PM

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No Frau x Junna? -> 1/10

Seriously, not a good show. But I've seen much worse lately.
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Mar 21, 2013 6:43 PM

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rafi160 said:
I know a lot of you are hating the anime because of this episode, but lets be honest episodes 1-20 were great, this episode was "meh" clearly you can tell the producers rushed this "26" episode show via the time slot or whatever, same goes for psycho-pass which felt like it was rushed because of the change from 26 to 22(but they left hope for a season 2 or OVA), I truly hope 5pb see's this mistake and take lessons if they decide to do another magnificent storyline.... Bittersweet ending though


i rate on the whole expirience..that means all episodes (sure its easy to forget how i felt about watching ep 12 or so).

the ending is important and this is where most shows fuck up. and 1-21 for me was 5--7/10 and the ending turned the balance towards a 6/10 cause it really wasnt anything special and indeed MEH.

so u might be right with "most ppl" but i try not todo that.
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 6:50 PM

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who became an astronaut?!!!!??!? FFFUUUUUU i must know


Kai, it was his dream in VN but anime ommited it.


Not a spoiler man. It's necessary. Wish that wasn't ommitted kinda important to make sense dontcha think! Thanks for the info though kinda makes me a but more pleases with the ending given that it is him and has the GunVarrel patch. But maybe we could infer that it was him given his closing lines about aiming for a higher goal while looking at the sky etc.

Kinda a so so show and a weak ending. Expected it to be a bit more gripping but wasn't bad. First half of the show was better than the second half honestly before the "plot" actually kicked in. Oh well can't all be winners. 6-7/10, first half saved it. It's no Steins;Gate.
 
Mar 21, 2013 6:53 PM

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Overall show was a good pass time and enjoyable but still very meh - 7/20
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:08 PM
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I'll give it a 7/10, which is passing but very average. Nothing really stood out as show-defining for me.
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:08 PM

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Ok ending for an anime with LOTS of wasted potential.

6/10, right in the passing mark
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:15 PM

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Maybe it was just me, but I took the "5 minutes left running on batteries" thing as an Evangelion reference
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:15 PM

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Anyone who's calling people 'haters'- just chill. I've been reading these last few threads, and I'm yet to see anyone say they 'hate' R;N.

Speaking for myself, I started this impressed and fully stoked to give this anime 9/10 easy- and hoped for better. The 1st 12 episodes were great, building a solid... something- then the writers just kinda stopped living in the same world they were building in, and things got a bit weird. Episode 17 was the turning point I think, where nothing done before even mattered anymore.

I don't need an anime to be 'perfect'- hell, I can forgive a lot- but at a certain point anyone will say 'C'mon!', because 'what the heck?' The entire Kimijima Report arc was a waste. It was neat and all, but ultimately it didn't need to be programmed that way, and any puppet could have done it with the same results if it had to be. We won't even get to the trails he had to cleverly kludge- because if he just walked away- abandoned pursuing the reports, then what? No distraction, no rocket launch? Because no go-carts are on the track anymore? There is so much in this anime like that- that is abandoned, contrived, cliche, recycled, and in a few cases just plain wrong- and I'm not saying it's bad, or I hate it- I'm just saying EVERYONE knows it 'should have' been better. Heck- even the 'epic kiss' is a clear S;G clone & everyone knows it.

I think most people wanted to love this anime way more than they were allowed. Any disappointment has to do with the adapters, and initial writers. I'm not saying this wasn't good- just that it could have easily been more than a little bit better because they took a lot of short cuts, and believe it or not- some people notice- and it's not their fault.

If you see a magician palm a coin, and no one else does- you may not say anything, or you might and others can get mad at you for 'ruining the trick'- but at the end of the day, it's the magician who needs to practice more. The best magicians keep other magicians guessing.

If you like it 'as-is'- more power to you- but I think everyone will agree this threatened to be a hell of a better anime than it turned out to be.

Just my 2 cents.
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Mar 21, 2013 7:15 PM

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WHY NO DARU APPEARANCE!
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:16 PM

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So who is the astronaut?Kai?Aki?
finally the more elegant and realistic gunvarrel has been built

R;N is better in the earlier episode at the conspiracy part but I feel like it is gradually degrade especially after they arrive Tokyo Expo;They even cut down Frau appearing chance unlike earlier,Frau makes the series much more hilarious

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I don't know what i was hoping for with all things considered but that wasn't it.


kinda how i feel too. not that I hated the show or anything just expected the final episode to have more....IMPACT!


the last fight definitely lack the feeling that it supposed to has.

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hell Chaos;Head was better..


Chaos;HEAd really sucks at the ending
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:21 PM
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Very anticlimatic, but I enjoyed the show thoroughly. Honestly didn't really watch for the plot too much, more for character relationships and whatnot. 8/10 in my book. Translates to 7/10 by MAL's scale I guess.

I think the same, mostly about the anticlimactic thing, except that I watched it for the conspiracy theme (same as for the other SciADV).
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:33 PM

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It was interesting to me when they stuck monopoles in (because that's current science), but other than that everything else was like an episode of gunvarrel. (mystery and drama parts were fine)
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:35 PM

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Misa' controlled by Kou saying Aki to shut the fuck up, I'm glad I've watched this, at least one character say that stoopid girl to shut up.

Aaaah, so disapointed… The last 3 eps. are so meh. Started at ten now it's a seven… aaaaah.

I'll miss Frau tough.
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Mar 21, 2013 7:37 PM
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It was meh. Oh well.
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Mar 21, 2013 7:41 PM

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Despite its many flaws, I couldn't help but enjoy this. I really liked the characters.
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:55 PM
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good enough show XD, at least their are no major deaths on the good guys at the end
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 7:55 PM

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Meh ending is meh. Even Chaos;Head ending was better.
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:02 PM
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I knew this was going to be mediocre since the first 3 episodes
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:06 PM

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At least the climax was entertaining
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:25 PM

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5/10, meh. Maybe I should've given it a 4, I'm not sure.

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Meh ending is meh. Even Chaos;Head ending was better.


Haha, are you serious?
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:29 PM

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Crap ending; they do everything to make mecha look unrealistic...and in the end, they save the world with mecha.

And why no Daru? This site got my hopes up by listing him as one of the characters of this show.

Overall I enjoyed this anime though; even though it was slow at some times. So giving this a 7+/10
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:33 PM

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It was a relaxing show for me to watch at the beginning and I did enjoy it thoroughly as the story began to finally unfold. It could have been better in terms of the action scenes and the final episodes weren't really exciting.


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Mar 21, 2013 8:39 PM

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About a 7.5/10
I really liked the characters but the plot wasn't very good.
The mecha battle wasn't over the top which is nice since this only takes place 5 years in the future. It seemed not too far fetched.
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:43 PM

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kai had a 3some with the sisters later that night. 10 years later, aki grew big boobies like her sister. all is good.

7/10 for 3some.
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:46 PM
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I give this anime a 6/10 but am i missing something here or did this anime just leave a few holes. I mean the monopole falling from the sky was weird i was hoping for a better explanation on why only they have the monopole, the final episode of gunvarell not being released but then released out of no where? kai and akis abilities were there for only for useful for a few episodes but thats it? I mean no info on how they got it besides the incident when they were young im just confused why they got it and reasons for. I mean it felt like that incident was only there to set up for this so so finale i mean i understand the older sister foiled the villians plans but i thought that incident was a big letdown now. no explanation on fraus mothers death or disappearance besides the comittee of 300. I feel from this anime is that they tried making it mysterious with all the interesting things popping up but they were just small bits for a not awesome finale. Idk maybe i need to rewatch the episodes again and some of my questions can be answered but i really felt this show was a letdown.
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:01 PM

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My guess is the final average rating on MAL will be around 8. It could have been better, but the last few episodes just seemed to lose some of the punch of the first two-thirds.
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Mar 21, 2013 9:06 PM
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Wow. Can't believe the ride is over. I really looked forward to this episode and although it wasn't perfect or the best, it was good. Going into this, I always separated it from Steins;Gate because it is not S;G nor C;H and stands alone for what it is.

It was nice that Aki and Kai finally got through to Misa, she remembered who she used to be and they defeated Kimijima Kou. I thought it was a little funny when he said something like, "I'll just come back again two or three times" Just had to laugh at that; ain't gonna happen! I liked the little mini-epilogue at the end, implying that Kai grew up to be an astronaut but was hoping they would've shown what happened to everyone else too. Somehow I think the episode would've been more fulfilling if we had gotten a glimpse of that.

In terms of unresolved plot, (as much as it kills me to admit all these obvious things even though I loved the characters, etc.) I wonder just how Misa came to know KK, is Kona's mother still alive? (sorry if this was already answered, just forgot), who is the fourth member in that robotics club picture, and what was up with Subaru's backstory with his father? Also, I've read some information on why KK is the way he is but devoting an episode to his character development would've made him seem like "the villain" a bit more.

There were a couple of times that I thought the Sumeragi would just wreck the Super GunPro-1 and I was surprised that it just lost the left pile bunker like that right away but it kinda helped to build up the hype for the match; just as if Misa and Kai were playing a game of Kill Ballad. And poor Kai, I think he used the EMS slow-motion trick like 3 or 4 times too! Very glad no good-guy casualties here.

Overall, a show that I looked forward to every week and one I'll definitely remember; interesting and likable characters, good themes, a little romance (^.^), and deep messages in short words. Gunvarrel Ankh Strikahhh!

Now if only I could get my hands on the VN...
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:07 PM
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Extremely disappointing ending and 'plot', but will give 7/10 because the first half was soo good.

On a side note, does anyone know the name of or where i can find the instrumental song that plays at beginning of this episode and the first episode?
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:12 PM

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7/10. Really disappointing ending. And it didn't have enough "impact" or leave an impact on the viewers like Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head did. In fact, its lack of impact surprises me. The moments of epicness just weren't enough compared to that of Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head. I'd say Robotics;Notes is the worst of them. They really could have done better by introducing a more serious tone instead of the BS justice theme they were portraying.
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Mar 21, 2013 9:14 PM

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It was just ok for the first half, the second half was bullshit, deus ex and asspulls one after the other. 4/10, I was expecting something much better after Steins;Gate (which is in my top 5 in fact).
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:15 PM

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Was Aki in the new GunVarrel, and Kai in the space shuttle?
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:20 PM

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All in all it was good, not on S;G level though, which I shouldn't have expected, probably the reason why I didn't enjoy this as much.

7/10 all in all
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:23 PM
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It was just ok for the first half, the second half was bullshit, deus ex and asspulls one after the other. 4/10, I was expecting something much better after Steins;Gate (which is in my top 5 in fact).

Care to remind me where the deus ex machina was?

Also, why compare it with S;G? Yes, they're both the same VN company, but NOT the same animation studio. This one ommited a lot of things, hence I found no comparison point.
 
Mar 21, 2013 9:24 PM

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Either 4/10 or 5/10, completely average from the first to the last episode.
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Mar 21, 2013 9:51 PM

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Care to remind me where the deus ex machina was?


Monopoles falling from the sky without reason? I won't start with the ass pulls because they're too many to even bother mentioning them.

Intereo said:

Also, why compare it with S;G? Yes, they're both the same VN company, but NOT the same animation studio. This one ommited a lot of things, hence I found no comparison point.


I'm not comparing, just that before starting I had great expectations because of Steins;Gate, of course I was wrong.
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:03 PM
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Monopoles falling from the sky without reason?

You're right about that, but as far as I know there IS a reason. Just as I said before, Production I.G ommited it. And don't get me wrong, it was also dissapointing for me.
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:03 PM

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A generous 7/10. Ending was yeah...
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:14 PM

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it was fun
7/10
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:17 PM
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I really enjoyed this show when it was a slice-of-life about kids making robots. The last 5-6 episodes were a disappointment. (And yet, most of the negative reactions to this show still strike me as completely undeserved.)
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:18 PM
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4/10, everything seemed so pointless until the last 5 or so episodes and then it ended in the most predictable way it could (although to be fair I saw this coming from a mile, this show wasn't intended for my demograph but I kept watching anyway). The ending was eh.. infact today was a day of disappointing endings between PP and this.. well I didn't have too much hopes for this one so I can't really call it disappointing.
 
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At least the climax was entertaining


That's because you saw it in Iru-O. In reality nothing actually happened (they saw nothing). AR fights are lame.

Sawada comes in with the anti-Kojima "missile" code and proxy saves the day. Pretty anticlimactic.
 
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I had this series at an 8/10 for almost the entire run, but the last few episodes brought it down to a 7/10 for me.

I think what hurt this show the most was how realistic it was trying to be. For me, I was expecting the Committee of 300 and the conspiracies to have more of an impact on the world and the characters, and I really wanted to see Kai and Aki build a robot just like Gunvarrell, and not just in physical appearance. I was expecting the robot to eventually become a badass killing machine that saves the world from the revolting robot army...and instead we got a slow, barely functional robot that somehow manages to defeat a singular enemy who's clearly better.

The characters saved the show, but this concept had so much potential that just never came to be.
 
 
Mar 21, 2013 10:33 PM

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That's It???

UGh....how anti-climatic!

This anime had a lot of great moments and tons of interests at one point....but the story was so convoluted it's kinda hard to appreciate it.

7/10......as usual, I'm generous with my ratings.
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Mar 21, 2013 10:46 PM

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Despite its many flaws, I couldn't help but enjoy this. I really liked the characters.

Same here! I really enjoyed Robotics;Notes as a whole. Characters were all likeable and just downright fun. Frau is the freakin' best though, always made me laugh. xD I admit this last episode was pretty cliche and quite anti-climatic but I still liked it. I just love how Gunvarrel became the 'hero' again. Kai becoming the astronaut and an actual Gunvarrel Robot was fully-built? Damn! It's a shame Daru didn't make an appearance, was looking forward to that so much.
Overall, giving Robotics;Notes an 8/10
 
 
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What the fuck.

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About the episode - Lame. That was some deus ex machina. Seriously, I know we've seen a lot of characters snap out of the hypnotism when some grand speech has been made but fuck. That was horrible. Aki's speech was bad as always. The only good thing about this episode is that Kai knows Misa always ducks 4 units to the right... Kimijima Kou's soldiers was defeated like no problem. No fuck was given.

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About the series,

Story - Story is average. One problem of the story is that a bunch of highschool kids and an old geezer can build a robot while there are thousands of adults there that didn't do shit about Kimijima Kou. Also there were a lot of Deus ex Machina moments. Especially the bird disarming Airi with the gun. What the fuck? That was like the worst possible way to get out of that situation. But to be honest, despite that, I thought the first half was really good. The mysteries and such. The build up was slow and nice so I was expecting a lot but this is what I get. Sigh.

Characters - Horrible characters. Kona, Sawada, Nae, Old geezer are the only decent ones. The rest are just BAD. Don't even need to explain.

Art - Art is average. Not bad but not really something to boast of.

Animation - I felt like Production I.G could have done a better job in the animation department. I mean, the animation is not bad but I just know that they can do more. I guess they prioritized Psycho-Pass more than this. Not that a great animation will change the lame conclusion but its a bit disappointing to see Production I.G not doing their best with this series considering how well people received S;G.

Sound - A bit above average. I must admit Kagome Kagome was catchy. Both opening and ending songs are also good.

Overall Enjoyment - As I've said I enjoyed the series up to episode 15 or something. The build up and hints for the big war was exciting. But well, I don't know. I don't know why it went GC. I know it won't really surpass S;G or get close to it from the start because of the characters but I am really disappointed. I would rather watch an Anime with boring, average start and a epic second half than the opposite. I guess all of us do.

6/10 The score from the bottom of my heart is 6.5 but...

Oh well, at least the first half is enjoyable. And this series is not even a bad anime compared to the others. Its just hella disappointing.
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Mar 21, 2013 10:55 PM

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Ohh Noooo.... i like how it end but ending didnt feel like ending to me, i cant feel any climax . .
overall i like the series its gonna be 8/10 for me.. and faru yeah u totally just died there :D.. gonna miss the robotics club!!! and WhoTheHell are those 3 astronauts lols..

 
Mar 21, 2013 11:01 PM
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Was this how the VN ended?
 
Mar 21, 2013 11:07 PM

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I really wish they there was atleast one more ep. The ending was just.. mehhhh. I knew they wouldn't be able to do a proper epilogue considering the content they had to fit in, but damn.. the ending was just so underwhelming. It just left you asking "That's it?".

This ending drops the rating by 1 for me - 6/10.
 
Mar 21, 2013 11:11 PM
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Making echo in the land of the lambs,

Meh.

6/10.
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