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Mar 15, 2013 8:57 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Christ, Cars is a meanie.



Good episode with Lisa Lisa in action imo. She's such a badass. But anyways, I thought this episode's music along with the fight was done pretty well. Damn it, poor Lisa Lisa though ;.;

 
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Mar 15, 2013 8:59 AM

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The episode was well animated. Only 7 chapter in BT. Cars is better looking and a bastard.
 
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Mar 15, 2013 10:39 AM
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Really wish we could have seen a serious fight between Kars and Lisalisa. And what the hell was he doing with her legs? Looks like they replaced "Her legs feel nice" with "ui~n ui~~n" (guitar noises?)
 
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Mar 15, 2013 11:45 AM

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Cars is just way too fabulous and I laughed during the whole scene when he fondled Lisa Lisa's feet.
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Mar 16, 2013 2:00 AM
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Huge respect for Wham right there. *salutes*

Lisa Lisaaa!! Noooooooooo!!! D:

Cars looks so fabulous (DAT HAIR!) but he's still a freakin' rotten bastard! >:O
 
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Mar 16, 2013 2:50 AM

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Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?
 
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Mar 16, 2013 2:55 AM

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Cars is a badass and a douche bag. This episode was tense and amazing.
 
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Mar 16, 2013 2:55 AM

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ReaperCreeper said:
Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?

Could be, I don't remember. I don't think it was mentioned that early in the manga though.

Anyway great episode. Cars is such a bastard you just gotta love that guy. Big LOL at the...guitar playing(?)...rofl.
 
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Mar 16, 2013 4:38 AM

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Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars! Such a bastard but I can't help but lol when he play with Lisa Lisa's sexy legs.

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Mar 16, 2013 5:02 AM

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Hail robot nazis from hell.

Awesome episode.

 
Mar 16, 2013 5:24 AM

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I love when everyone gets together before the final battle in any game/anime/whatever.
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Mar 16, 2013 6:02 AM

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This made it. I don't need anything more. This anime is a 10 in my books.
 
Mar 16, 2013 6:03 AM

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ReaperCreeper said:
Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?

It made sense in the manga.
It was being published in a weekly magazine, so more than a year had passed between those chapters.
 
Mar 16, 2013 6:40 AM

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ReaperCreeper said:
Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?
I do not think in anime this was mentioned at all at the start of Part 2.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Mar 16, 2013 7:07 AM

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symbv said:
ReaperCreeper said:
Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?
I do not think in anime this was mentioned at all at the start of Part 2.

It was. Both in the manga and the anime, right after the taxi scene.
 
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Rinso said:
symbv said:
ReaperCreeper said:
Didn't they already mention at the start of Part 2 Jojo was the child of Erina's son and the baby she saved, or do they assume we just wouldn't remember?
I do not think in anime this was mentioned at all at the start of Part 2.
It was. Both in the manga and the anime, right after the taxi scene.
OK, in ep.10 but that was coming from the mouth of the black kid, so we are not sure if Jojo knew about this, right?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Mar 16, 2013 7:34 AM

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MAJOR DEUS EX MACHINA TROLOLOL THIS WEEK BUT WHO CARES ITS THE RETURN OF THE BEST NAZI SOLDIER IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it interesting how opposite Cars and Wham were for teammates. You have the romantic prideful warrior Wham and then the dirty bastard Cars. Before he did what he did to Lisa Lisa, I found it odd how knew what Wham's "weakness" was but he was abiding by it anyway until he used a double. Wham was a cool antagonist for JoJo but I'm glad Cars is the last Pillar Men, he knows what he wants and won't let anyone get in his way. Also in a life or death battle when both people are prepared to die why wouldn't you use any advantage you have at your disposal? Cars is a bastard sure but one I can empathize with
 
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I saluted to Wham too. What a great warrior T_T

In contrast to that bastard Cars! Man he's rotten, but that's what makes him an awesome villain hehe (though u gotta admit he looks really fabulous and cool XD)

Lisa Lisa being his mother confirmed :)...wonder how Jojo will react to it once he knows?

Oh and Nice timing Stroheim XD
 
Mar 16, 2013 8:49 AM

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Cars is a nasty prick, which means GREAT. It's gotta be a rotten bastard for an enemy for it to be shounen. And

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Mar 16, 2013 9:28 AM

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I think they did the death of Wham well. The use of Caesar's death theme in the BGM is great. Jojo's action corresponding well to Wham's action after Caesar's death.

And Cars makes a very good contrast to Wham. He was holding off only because of the presence of Wham. And he makes a really nasty villain too, fondling LisaLisa at one moment, and put a rope through her ankles at another.

Also did anyone notice the ED is changed to reflect the new look of Stroheim?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Mar 16, 2013 9:32 AM

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SO MUCH MANLINESS
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Mar 16, 2013 11:27 AM

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Dammmmnnnnnnnnnn

Cars is much more of a prick than Dio......I think.
 
Mar 16, 2013 12:28 PM

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Lisa Lisa is his mama!
 
Mar 16, 2013 12:35 PM

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Damn you Araki! How the hell do you expect me to hate such bad guys as Wham? And Cars looks way too damn good with his hair down, but what a bastard! Now I know who he reminds me of Naraku from Inuyasha I hated that guy!!!

Man I wish the fact that Lisa Lisa is Joseph's mother wasn't spoiled for me I would like to be surprise knowing it now.
 
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I find it strange how Jojo (and everyone here) is upset at Cars for using dirty tactics. Isn't that what Jojo himself has been doing the whole time? He even said it himself - there is no place for rules in a death match. It's kill or be killed, plain and simple.

Awesome episode, anyway - they did a great job with all the various BGM, especially the Nazi theme with Stroheim's appearance - man, that was great! Stroheim is such a great and entertaining character.

Can't wait for next week to see what Jojo will come up with to beat Cars, because frankly, the guy is unbeatable right now...
 
Mar 16, 2013 4:35 PM

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I had honestly forgotten how Joseph managed to defeat Wham's final move prior to watching this episode, what a delight it was seeing it anew with a fantastic score and animation to accompany it.

Also did Smokey know about Lisa Lisa being Joseph's mother at this point in the manga? From my recollection...


Regardless I'm looking forward to next weeks episode, as the battle with Cars intensifies (to put it mildly).
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I find it strange how Jojo (and everyone here) is upset at Cars for using dirty tactics. Isn't that what Jojo himself has been doing the whole time? He even said it himself - there is no place for rules in a death match. It's kill or be killed, plain and simple.

Awesome episode, anyway - they did a great job with all the various BGM, especially the Nazi theme with Stroheim's appearance - man, that was great! Stroheim is such a great and entertaining character.

Can't wait for next week to see what Jojo will come up with to beat Cars, because frankly, the guy is unbeatable right now...


JoJo's tricks have never been dirty. He never used Ceasar as a meat shield. All of JoJo's tricks have been honorable, but some have been a bit underhanded. However just because they are underhanded, doesn't mean that the people who he was fighting against should of prepared for them.

Also, they are the ones with immortality and crazy powers. You would have to expect that with your back at the wall, you would come up with some insane plans. Hmm... I wonder if now Cars is admitting if his back is against the wall.
 
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SO MUCH MANLINESS


It's always like this every week with this series. I hope Part 3 returns in Fall 2013.
 
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Darklord_bg said:
I find it strange how Jojo (and everyone here) is upset at Cars for using dirty tactics. Isn't that what Jojo himself has been doing the whole time? He even said it himself - there is no place for rules in a death match. It's kill or be killed, plain and simple.
You think using one more person to impersonate him so that it is no longer 1-to-1 fight against LisaLisa is at the same level as the various sneaky tricks Jojo used out of quick wit during the match? If you agree with Cars that there should be no rules in a death match, and by implication Jojo and everyone else are just plain dumb to believe Cars' setting up rules for such a match, then I worry what you may become if you gain power and strength.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Mar 16, 2013 8:03 PM

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WOW. Just WOW.

Also, I didn't remember they already said that Jojo was son of Eirina's son and the baby saved. So, just now, I get that Lisa Lisa is his mother.

(I have made a mistake with some member here on the forums, sorry about that)
 
Mar 16, 2013 8:10 PM

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WOW! This would have to be one of my favorite episodes!~
This is why JoJo is so amazing!
 
Mar 16, 2013 8:53 PM

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Darklord_bg said:
Can't wait for next week to see what Jojo will come up with to beat Cars, because frankly, the guy is unbeatable right now...


If you think he's unbeatable now...
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THAT EPISODE

Departure of bro villain, Wham.

Cars goes full fabulous and jerk mode.

STROHEIM AND SPEEDWAGON OUT OF NOWHERE.

Lisa Lisa is JoJo's mother.

I think I need to go and rest for a bit.
 
Mar 17, 2013 2:42 AM

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Never thought I'd see the day I'd be happy to see a Nazi cyborg appeared!

I don't care what you guys think but the whole time I was thinking that maybe Lisa Lisa was defeated too easily. I mean, she's a ripple MASTER after all. Ah well, Araki's way of doing things. I laughed way too hard when Cars was playing with Lisa Lisa's legs like it was a guitar. Dammit Cars.. at least you have fabulous hair tho.
 
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The epicness of this episode went over the chart! This is one of the best JoJo episodes I have seen so far, God I love this.

Salute to Wham for being an honorable warrior to the end, sad to see him die to be honest, but it was for the greater good. Also to avenge our favorite Italian Ceasar. They wrapped the fight up really nice!

Now for Cars vs Lisa Lisa and holy shit on how fabulous that woman is! That stance, the clothes and the gorgeous look on her, how can a man hate her? Or even hurt her? God damn you Cars with your stupid tricks, must you get a painful death. The part until where Cars stabbed her was too much for my manliness! Lisa Lisa <3

Out of nowhere, STROHEIM appears with his German Nazi! As if the episode wasn't epic enough, he just had to make the episode above something like epic. Also Speedwagon and Smokey came alongside and with that we get our shocking confirmation that Lisa Lisa is a milf...and JoJo's birth mother. This better get JoJo's anger to annihilate Cars to another level. That monster.

Next week can't come fast enough!

 
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CCAAARRRSSSS YOU BASTARD

Lisa Lisa ;_; Such a badass and awesome character even though Cars defeated her so early D:

Jojo vs Cars next week.I can't wait!!!
 
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Kratos_Ortega said:

Out of nowhere, STROHEIM appears with his German Nazi!
Wait, I think those other people who accompanied Stroheim are from Speedwagon's group not the Germans?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Both Nazi soldiers and members of the Speedwagon Foundation are present.
 
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Both Nazi soldiers and members of the Speedwagon Foundation are present.
In the anime, I noticed there are the people who have the UV lights on their shoulders and they declared themselves as Speedwagon people, and then there were Speedwagon himself and Smokey. Where are the Nazi soldiers?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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They are there, I'm pretty sure. I remember some of those guys wearing German soldier outfits and helmets in the manga.
 
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They are there, I'm pretty sure. I remember some of those guys wearing German soldier outfits and helmets in the manga.
Yeah, in manga maybe, but since I look at only the anime I do not see much evidence of Nazi soldiers there. And I believe Kratos_Ortega was commenting on the anime.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Slightly off topic - why do websites still have this listed as "raw"? Was I just imagining the subtitles on the video or something?

Amazing episode, and next week(or the week after) we will finally conclude this great arc. I will admit some parts of the episode I felt were a bit on the silly side, like Wham attaching his head to the crossbow, but it's 1980's so I'll forgive it.

I am curious how they are going to do part 3 however
 
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one of the weaker eps, felt a bit too draggy
but Stroheim and Speedwagon's entrance made up for that (though I wonder what Smokey is doing there)
Cars playing with LisaLisa's feet and Wham shooting his head with a crossbow were hilarious scenes :D

symbv said:
fluffybunnyboy said:
They are there, I'm pretty sure. I remember some of those guys wearing German soldier outfits and helmets in the manga.
Yeah, in manga maybe, but since I look at only the anime I do not see much evidence of Nazi soldiers there. And I believe Kratos_Ortega was commenting on the anime.


no, it's the same in the anime
http://i.imgur.com/DezQuWG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jmmyoCB.jpg
 
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Slightly off topic - why do websites still have this listed as "raw"? Was I just imagining the subtitles on the video or something?

Amazing episode, and next week(or the week after) we will finally conclude this great arc. I will admit some parts of the episode I felt were a bit on the silly side, like Wham attaching his head to the crossbow, but it's 1980's so I'll forgive it.

I am curious how they are going to do part 3 however


 
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edl01 said:
Slightly off topic - why do websites still have this listed as "raw"? Was I just imagining the subtitles on the video or something?

Amazing episode, and next week(or the week after) we will finally conclude this great arc. I will admit some parts of the episode I felt were a bit on the silly side, like Wham attaching his head to the crossbow, but it's 1980's so I'll forgive it.

I am curious how they are going to do part 3 however

This anime still has about three more weeks to go.

As for a potential Part 3 TV anime,
 
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symbv said:
fluffybunnyboy said:
They are there, I'm pretty sure. I remember some of those guys wearing German soldier outfits and helmets in the manga.
Yeah, in manga maybe, but since I look at only the anime I do not see much evidence of Nazi soldiers there. And I believe Kratos_Ortega was commenting on the anime.
no, it's the same in the anime
http://i.imgur.com/DezQuWG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jmmyoCB.jpg
Thanks for digging through the anime and coming up with the definitive proof. So it is a mixed brigade of German soldiers as well as Speedwagon's men coming to the rescue.Cool.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Eh, I'm still not all that crazy for what Car's did to LisaLisa and the timing of it being revealed that she is Jojo's mother was a bit too convenient. Then again it was at least alluded to a few episodes back, so it's not that big a deal. A pretty good episode all around, Wham was a pretty cool dude.
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I don't even know anymore but this was so good.

Them vampire killing shoulder UV lights...best thing since forever.
 
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This was epic, I definitely liked Wham as a warrior, he plays the game fair and square.
Cars on the other hand is a fucking dick. Stroheim is also an epic character, seeing him brought a smile on my face instantly! The music when he appeared fit it so well, amazing direction!
I can't wait for another week, this is really epic!
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Haha, I like how Jojo is so sincere with every enemy he kills when they are on their deathbed...

Also. Damn, Lisa Lisa got done a bit too quickly... I would have thought her super-scarf should have sensed Cars.. also wow at her being Jojo's mother! Didn't expect that.. although I'm glad that there is some more continuity this way with Part 1's ending..

Also. I wonder how Jojo feels that he saw his mother naked and thought she was hot and all that XD
 
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