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Mar 14, 2013 9:56 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Damn, watching Rei this episode is depressing. She's so lucky to have a friend like Akane imo. The part with the cream was kinda funny. The sleepover part was kinda cute I guess. *pinky swear*

The new Alone looks kinda strange imo, kinda shaped like a pinhead. Finally, Akane discovers the truth huh? About damn time, only took lol..10 episodes.
 
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Mar 14, 2013 10:09 AM

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Anyway, a good mix of everything in this episode. The Alone always gives an Evangelion vibe lol.

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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Rei finally got caught, and poor Akane, having to find the truth that her friend is her enemy and has caused her trouble through most of the series.


 
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Mar 14, 2013 1:43 PM

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Cliche yes, but it still gets me every time when one finds out their friend was really their enemy the whole time.

lol at Akane sticking her butt towards Rei in the bath. Bet Rei got a nice view there...
 
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Dammm...... Rei gets caught, What An SUPER EPIC EPISODE! So much story crammed into 1 episode lol. I wish the White Beams could be removed but tat was still Super Awesome with Epic Parts.

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Mar 14, 2013 8:23 PM
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so much naked butts of Rei and Akane this episode and damn that drama heats up too, 2 more episodes to go!!! will humanity be able to pass the test?
 
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Mar 14, 2013 8:25 PM

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And so it begins......or ends....
 
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So I was actually surprised by the way things turned out. It was REI that was upset at AKANE, even though Akane was the one who found out someone who she considered a friend and really liked, was the enemy.

Seems more like Akane should be the one feeling betrayed. I actually like that it wasn't what I was expecting though :o plus this ending shows that Rei really was starting to open up to being friends with Akane
 
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Mar 14, 2013 10:12 PM

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Stark700 said:


The new Alone looks kinda strange imo, kinda shaped like a pinhead. Finally, Akane discovers the truth huh? About damn time, only took lol..10 episodes.


LOL, hey! You guessed right last week.

Anyways that reaction from Rei finding out Akane was "one of them" was unexpected. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Like Akane being in shock of Rei helping the Alones.
But then again, that would go against her personality, so I guess this makes sense.

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So I was actually surprised by the way things turned out. It was REI that was upset at AKANE, even though Akane was the one who found out someone who she considered a friend and really liked, was the enemy.

Seems more like Akane should be the one feeling betrayed. I actually like that it wasn't what I was expecting though :o plus this ending shows that Rei really was starting to open up to being friends with Akane

haha was writing my post and then saw yours. we agree on this totally.

Anyways I wouldn't know what to look forward to. The discovery was unexpected so what is going to be the next 2 eps about. them making up?

or i guess the engine somehow start making trouble and Rei explaining her situation and her reason for what she has done...or something along the lines...
 
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Cliche yes, but it still gets me every time when one finds out their friend was really their enemy the whole time.
Couldn't have said that better either. It shouldn't have any effect on me, but it did. Made me feel helpless.

And finally the fanservice I was expecting. What was Akane thinking, showing her behind like that o.o
 
Mar 15, 2013 12:27 AM

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A very well done ep! All the emotions... I did shed some tears during the final confront of Akane and Rei in this ep. All the build up from the entire ep and finally the truth revealed... it's just so sad!!

Quite curious to see how will things turn out because there are too many ways to end the series. But one thing is for sure! Magic(it's Science and Technology in this series) and Friendship will save the day! ...hopefully?

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Mar 15, 2013 12:29 AM

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Finally some more Oshiri Operation.

Also, it's natural for Rei to feel betrayed instead of Akane. Akane is the kind of person who would her her out first ("she must have a reason, there's no way she would do it without one"), but Rei is more of a loner and thus will think of betrayal much sooner.
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Damn that ray of light blocking that nice view of Rei's ass. At least the censorship in this show isn't as bad as TL;R. This is a really good episode, imo. I think that it's the best yet.

I was wondering when they'll finally figure out how those Alone kept powering up. It only took them like 10 episodes for them to figure that out. Rei was such a badass fighting those drones like that. It's too bad though that Rei had to feel betrayed in the end. To have fun and have a friend like that only to for things to be torn like that next day must have felt like the world shattering yet again to Rei.

I'm still wondering how that Alone can be destroyed so easily when Rei shot 3 arrows into that thing. That other monster that nearly killed Akane only had one arrow, but this one had 3 and was taken out so easily. Can't wait to see the next episode.
 
Mar 15, 2013 1:24 AM
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Show has gotten so boring, that I just skip to the battles now..
 
Mar 15, 2013 2:07 AM

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A bit weird how the tone suddenly became serious at the end and what the hell is with the butt shoving at that bath scene LOL

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Mar 15, 2013 2:31 AM

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YES I ONLY HAVE TO BARE THROUGH TWO MORE EPISODES!

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Mar 15, 2013 3:13 AM

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Well...

That was, predictable? I don't mind it being cliche, but I don't feel that the plot was executed well enough... It did poor actually, felt very forced.

I do feel for Rei, she's a simple enough character, and her circumstances are pitiable. I just don't feel that the execution was there to compliment the scene... Feels like there's too little build up for there to be an impact.


Lets see how the last 2 episodes will play out.
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Mar 15, 2013 5:05 AM
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Best ep up to date . The sound was awesome . But meh it had it's own awkward moments like:



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Mar 15, 2013 5:15 AM

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Best ep up to date . The sound was awesome . But meh it had it's own awkward moments like:



*facepalm*


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Mar 15, 2013 6:12 AM

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Was I the only one under the impression prior to this episode that Rei already knew that Akane and co were the ones fighting the Alone?

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Dat asssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Stupid censor beam.

Well, it was a nice episode. I supposed the next episode will be them extracting information of Rei.
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Mar 15, 2013 6:45 AM

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Shit just got serious at the end.
 
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Was I the only one under the impression prior to this episode that Rei already knew that Akane and co were the ones fighting the Alone?


Me too, but now that i think about it, it was never mentioned she knew neither did she show any signs of it.

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I don't understand. Why is this Akane's fault? Why's SHE the liar? It should be the other way around, shouldn't it? I find Rei a hypocrite when she calls Akane a liar, because SHE'S humanity's enemy, and SHE was lying all this time.

What are the consequences of destroying the Engine again? Something about power cut off throughout the world? Or will it actually destroy the world?

Either way, Rei's going to be hurting Akane either way. I just don't get it. I was frustrated at the end, because I felt it was stupid since I was expecting Akane to feel betrayed. I also thought that, all this time, Rei KNEW who was destroying the Alones so I was surprised she didn't know.

Sigh, this anime.
 
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I also thought that, all this time, Rei KNEW who was destroying the Alones so I was surprised she didn't know.
I don't think it is ever shown that Rei knew who were destroying the Alones. You are assuming too much here.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Man this show is so lame,
I love it.

Guilty pleasure of the season.
 
Mar 15, 2013 12:39 PM
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Finally some more Oshiri Operation.

Also, it's natural for Rei to feel betrayed instead of Akane. Akane is the kind of person who would her her out first ("she must have a reason, there's no way she would do it without one"), but Rei is more of a loner and thus will think of betrayal much sooner.


Hmm yea, that makes sense. I was so expecting Akane to feel hurt at least though.
 
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With this cliff hanger i can pretty much tell how this anime will end hopefully there will still be a few surprises tho.
The only dissatisfying thing in this episode where to censors.
And on that note who is looking forward to the blue ray?
 
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Man this show is so lame,
I love it.

Guilty pleasure of the season.


It is perfect schlock. It knows exactly what it is and it does it very well. Highly enjoyable and I just laugh my ass off all the time at how blatantly unapologetic it is.

I really liked the confrontation. The episode built up to it nicely.
 
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UtsukushiiYume said:
I also thought that, all this time, Rei KNEW who was destroying the Alones so I was surprised she didn't know.
I don't think it is ever shown that Rei knew who were destroying the Alones. You are assuming too much here.


Maybe it was just me. I really thought she got closer to them with the knowledge of who they were. Looking back at it, I guess there wasn't really any proof huh. Oh well.
 
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I don't understand. Why is this Akane's fault? Why's SHE the liar? It should be the other way around, shouldn't it? I find Rei a hypocrite when she calls Akane a liar, because SHE'S humanity's enemy, and SHE was lying all this time.

What are the consequences of destroying the Engine again? Something about power cut off throughout the world? Or will it actually destroy the world?

Either way, Rei's going to be hurting Akane either way. I just don't get it. I was frustrated at the end, because I felt it was stupid since I was expecting Akane to feel betrayed. I also thought that, all this time, Rei KNEW who was destroying the Alones so I was surprised she didn't know.

Sigh, this anime.
The show clearly indicated that she didn't know who or what was destroying the Alones.

Akane and the others were the ones who initially started to invite her into the group and insisted that she came to hang out with them.
Like she clearly said in this episode, she initially thought that she didn't need any friend so she denied their invitations.

It wasn't until she learn that Akane's grandfather was the creator of the machine that she accepted their invitation. As the time passed, she genuinely started to feel happy and glad at making friends even though her initial mission was to learn about Professor Isshiki.
 
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Wow. Until now I thought it was painfully obvious that Rei wasn't qualified to do her task because she has a pretty strong conscience, but the writer(s) actually found a way to make her dangerous after all: A hypocrisy which is truly off the scale.

She's trying to destroy this world (and knows that), yet she feels sorry about crushing a tomato and is pissed at Akane for defending her world from ending up just like Rei's. Lying to herself on such a scale is pretty much a superpower of it's own ^^

But the real treat this week was the daring fanservice. I didn't expect them to go that far (and with such bad excuses ^^) , but I'm glad they did ;-)
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Wow. Until now I thought it was painfully obvious that Rei wasn't qualified to do her task because she has a pretty strong conscience, but the writer(s) actually found a way to make her dangerous after all: A hypocrisy which is truly off the scale.

She's trying to destroy this world (and knows that), yet she feels sorry about crushing a tomato and is pissed at Akane for defending her world from ending up just like Rei's. Lying to herself on such a scale is pretty much a superpower of it's own ^^

But the real treat this week was the daring fanservice. I didn't expect them to go that far (and with such bad excuses ^^) , but I'm glad they did ;-)
She isn't pissed at Akane for trying to save her world. She's pissed because she thinks that Akane and the others have been using her.

And yes, she feels sorry for crushing a tomato because she thinks they were very important for Akane (which as this episode indicated she viewed as a friend).
 
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the final part was stupid
don't plan peoples for lies when you lies and plan to destroy the world
 
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Hahahaha. Akane didn't even have the time to get a hold of the situation XD
 
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She isn't pissed at Akane for trying to save her world. She's pissed because she thinks that Akane and the others have been using her.

And yes, she feels sorry for crushing a tomato because she thinks they were very important for Akane (which as this episode indicated she viewed as a friend).
I know she's pissed because she considers Akane her friend and feels betrayed, but there's the problem.

She's been trying to kill Akane the whole time (because she'd obviously die if this world is destroyed), the last time when she was caught. Even if Akane would've betrayed her like she thinks, she has no right to be pissed at her, because Akane would've done it in self-defence (from Rei, no less).

It takes an astounding level of hypocrisy to make a friend, keep trying to kill her and being mad at her for defending herself. I know she's just bending her mind this way because she wants her family back AND Akane, but she really shouldn't lie to herself that she can have both at the same time - especially not when billions of lives are at stake.
 
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Oh done been caught now!


As to Rei, we don't know why she is doing this. I assume that she might think she's the hero. Hell we don't even know why the alones are attacking as they do.
 
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She's been trying to kill Akane the whole time (because she'd obviously die if this world is destroyed), the last time when she was caught.
I am not sure if Rei succeeds it means the destruction of this world. I think you are assuming too much here. And even if this is true (still an IF) I don't think Rei realizes it. To her it is just let Alone get to the Engine and her task is fulfilled.
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

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It's not going to win any awards, but at this point the plot is actually surprsingly competent in its writing. Sure the show as a whole is just mindless fun, but I'm geniunely interested in Rei's character.

Oh, and the mayonaise scene has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in quite a while
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symbv said:
Soshintsu said:
She's been trying to kill Akane the whole time (because she'd obviously die if this world is destroyed), the last time when she was caught.
I am not sure if Rei succeeds it means the destruction of this world. I think you are assuming too much here. And even if this is true (still an IF) I don't think Rei realizes it. To her it is just let Alone get to the Engine and her task is fulfilled.


Indeed. And even if destroying the the engine meant destroying the world, Rei wouldn't know it. Because in the episode Rei said this: " destroying the engine might actually be better for this world."
 
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symbv said:
Soshintsu said:
She's been trying to kill Akane the whole time (because she'd obviously die if this world is destroyed), the last time when she was caught.
I am not sure if Rei succeeds it means the destruction of this world. I think you are assuming too much here. And even if this is true (still an IF) I don't think Rei realizes it. To her it is just let Alone get to the Engine and her task is fulfilled.


Indeed. And even if destroying the the engine meant destroying the world, Rei wouldn't know it. Because in the episode Rei said this: " destroying the engine might actually be better for this world."


Considering that the world depends on the Manifestor Engine for its energy needs, if it is destroyed many people will certainly suffer (I believe Isshiki mentioned this already), so while it won't actually destroy the world, it would definitely be pretty bad. Also, it seems that manifestor technology has the potential to destroy the planet and even more, which is why the alones came from their dimension to test humanity to see if they are capable of possessing such potentially destructive tech.
 
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symbv said:
I am not sure if Rei succeeds it means the destruction of this world. I think you are assuming too much here. And even if this is true (still an IF) I don't think Rei realizes it. To her it is just let Alone get to the Engine and her task is fulfilled.
I wasn't 100% certain when I wrote that, but in episode 5, the crow bluntly says that "This world must face destruction." when it's talking to Rei. She's not even surprised to hear that, so apparently that was part of the deal all along.

And, like neontaster said, even without actually destroying the world, destroying the manifestor engine would still be pretty disastrous.

Also, I thought this was the very reason why she desperately tried to keep her distance from them and felt so awkward when they tried to be her friends.
 
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I wonder which would be better if the generator malfunctions(which seems what caused the destruction of Rei's world) or destroying the machine thus somewhat "stopping" it from malfunctioning in the first place?
 
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A dirty first half followed by a supposedly 'emotional' ending and cliffhanger. This show is just...something else, let's phrase it that way.
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What a predicament. Akane looked visibly hurt by Rei calling her a liar.
 
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I jack off to every episode.
 
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... Huh? I thought Rei already knew that it was Akane and friends dispatching the Alones. And she's mad at Akane for lying to her? What the fuck? It was supposed to be the other way around!
 
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... Huh? I thought Rei already knew that it was Akane and friends dispatching the Alones. And she's mad at Akane for lying to her? What the fuck? It was supposed to be the other way around!
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The last dialogue was so forced.
 
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