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Feb 12, 2013 1:06 AM

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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for February 4th - 10th.

Blu-ray
*1, 7,185 *7,185 Tari Tari vol.6
*2, 3,779 *3,779 K vol.5
*3, 3,645 *3,645 Magi vol.2 Limited Edition
*4, 3,384 18,833 Biohazard: Damnation Limited Edition
*5, 2,092 26,599 Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 1 - Yokuryuu wa Maiorita Limited Edition
*6, 1,637 16,497 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure vol.1 Limited Edition
*7, 1,314 *1,314 Ixion Saga DT vol.3
*8, 1,048 27,493 Girls und Panzer vol.1
*9, *,968 20,273 Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon II vol.5 Limited Edition
10, *,813 **,813 Moyashimon Returns vol.6

DVD
*1, 6,767 *,**6,767 Initial D Fifth Stage vol.2
*2, 6,377 *,**6,377 Magi vol.2 Limited Edition
*3, 4,050 *,*17,008 Biohazard: Damnation
*4, 2,025 *,**2,025 One Piece 15th Season vol.3
*5, 1,888 *,**1,888 Ixion Saga DT vol.3
*6, 1,696 *,**1,696 K vol.5
*7, 1,389 *,*10,392 Magi vol.1 Limited Edition
*8, 1,137 *,**1,137 Naruto: Shippuuden Kyubi Shoaku to Inga Naru Kaoko no Sho vol.5
*9, 1,102 *,**5,612 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure vol.1 Limited Edition
10, *,863 *,***,863 Himitsukessha Taka no Tsume NEO vol.4
11, *,860 *,*11,014 Kuroko no Basket vol.7
12, *,830 *,**3,865 Kamiusagi Rope 3rd Season vol.3
13, *,778 *,*10,622 Yorinuki Gintama-san On Theater 2D Shinsengumi Doran Hen Limited Edition
15, *,688 *,***,688 Moyashimon Returns vol.6
17, *,634 *,*42,343 Kuroko no Basket Fan Disc
18, *,611 *,**3,429 Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 1 - Yokuryuu wa Maiorita
19, *,605 1,179,661 Tonari no Totoro
20, *,591 *,*11,031 Initial D Fifth Stage vol.1
24, *,492 *,**3,683 Kamiusagi Rope
25, *,477 *,***,477 himitsukesshatakanotsume.jp DVD Box vol.2 Limited Edition
30, *,400 *,***,400 Fairy Tail vol.37

Single CD
*5, 15,118 *,*15,118 Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru "W:Wonder tale"
*7, 13,900 *,*13,900 Detective Conan "Try Again"
*8, 12,218 *,*12,218 Love Live! School Idol Project "Kitto Seishun ga Kikoeru"
*9, 11,901 *,*11,901 Tamagotchi! "Come on!"
11, *9,710 *,**9,710 Toaru Majutsu no Index: Endymion no Kiseki "Shining Star-☆- Love Letter"
13, *8,574 *,**8,574 Star Driver the Movie "colorful"
14, *7,020 *,*28,000 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure "Bloody Stream"
15, *5,698 *,**5,698 Uchuu Kyoudai "Small World"
16, *5,639 *,**5,639 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT "Be My Friend"
18, *5,066 *,**5,066 Puchimas!: Petit iDOLM@STER vol.5 Ami & Mami
19, *5,011 *,**5,011 Puchimas!: Petit iDOLM@STER vol.6 Ritsuko
21, *4,507 *,**4,507 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT "Bokura no Tsubasa"
22, *4,386 *,294,955 Magi "Yubi Boenkyo"
30, *3,158 *,**3,158 Amnesia "Recall"
34, *2,360 *,*14,614 Love Live! School Idol Project "Bokura wa Ima no Naka de"
43, *1,958 *,*62,889 Hunter x Hunter: Phantom Rouge "Reason"
47, *1,888 *,**1,888 Inazuma Eleven Go: Chrono Stone "Bokutachi no Shiro"
48, *1,823 *,**8,074 Amnesia "Zoetrope"
50, *1,772 *,**1,772 Zettai Karen Children: The Unlimited - Hyoubu Kyousuke "Darkness Night"

Source: Oricon Youtaiju
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Feb 12, 2013 1:10 AM

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Gotta love that ever lasting Panzer.
 
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Temporal Blu-ray + DVD Sales Rankings for Autumn 2012 the first volumes
*1, 27,493 Girls und Panzer
*2, 22,109 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
*3, 17,520 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
*4, 15,190 Magi
*5, 12,838 To LOVE-Ru Darkness
*6, 12,349 Gintama' Enchousen
*7, 11,609 Little Busters!
*8, 11,031 Initial D Fifth Stage
*9, *9,928 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb
10, *9,010 K
11, *9,001 Psycho-Pass
12, *6,249 Kamisama Hajimemashita
13, *3,386 Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo
14, *2,497 Onii-chan Dakedo Ai Sae Areba Kankeinai yo ne!
15, *2,494 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
16, *2,392 Jormungand: Perfect Order
17, *2,184 Busou Shinki
18, *2,024 Hiiro no Kakera 2nd Season
19, *1,911 Zetsuen no Tempest
20, *1,759 Ixion Saga DT
21, *1,235 Robotics;Notes
22, *1,011 Hayate no Gotoku! Can't Take My Eyes Off You (vol.2)
22, *,*652 Medaka Box Abnormal
22, **,613 Code:Breaker (vol.2)
23, **,528 Shinsekai yori (vol.2)
24, **,415 Ebiten: Kouritsu Ebisugawa Koukou Tenmonbu (vol.3)
25, **,345 Btooom! (vol.3)

Out of the rankings
Sukitte Ii na yo.
 
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Feb 12, 2013 1:20 AM

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*1, 27,493 Girls und Panzer

*2, 22,109 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
......

*3, 17,520 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!

Its SOOOO pleasing to see Jojo in second please, beating that third place with good lead!

An so is equally pleasing to see...:

*8, 11,031 Initial D Fifth Stage

11, *9,001 Psycho-Pass

... with 11k+ and Pycho-pass with 9k !!!

Hell yes!! This year looking promising, cant wait for the series coming out in spring and later this year!!!

But the sad part is to see the fantastic shinsekai Yori all the way down there, one of the top best series currently airing, regardless its awesome that some series still focus 100% on story without any shameless pandering despite the evident risks.
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Key observations

- GirlPan made the chart again. Given there will be a final boost when the last 2 episodes airs in March AND the latest news that a standard edition will be released (so far there is only limited edition released) it is clear that GirlPan v1 will break 30k line.

- JoJo v1 breaks 20k line. If not for GirlaPan it will surely be the clear topseller of the season by a mile. The later volumes are all doing well in Amazon ranking, so we may see a consistently high level of sales for the series as a whole.

- Horizon v5 also breaks 20k line, keeping the 2nd season sales average easily above 20k.

- Magi is seeing substantial drop in sales from v1 to v2 (first week sales drops from slightly below 14k to just 10k). The Amazon ranking for its subsequent volumes does not bode well. Its sales can drop much further from now on.

- Tari Tari, Code Geass Akito and Ini-D 5th stage all doing fine, and sales for Ixion Sage DT seems quite consistent too.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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9988 said:

But the sad part is to see the fantastic shinsekai Yori all the way down there, one of the top best series currently airing, regardless its awesome that some series still focus 100% on story without any shameless pandering despite the evident risks.
Actually one of the reasons that fans choose not to buy Shinsekai Yori is how it failed to put good attention on the story, at least how it is adapted, so that it is less confusing to people who have not read the novel. Well, since apparently people thus go to read the novel instead, perhaps it is all for the better after all (though perhaps not from the anime studio's point of view)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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tari tari still going stronk!
now 5th bd vol of kyokai senju over 20k.
we need season 3!

 
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jmal said:
Story is by far the strongest part of Shinsekai Yori for me (although it had some major bumps early on).
Those early bumps got a lot of people to drop the show apparently. At the end, the story in the novel is very good (as a reader of the original novel I could surely tell) but it is the adaptation and its presentation that is the issue. I forgot how many times I posted in MAL to correct what viewers got wrong from the show, and some of the changes from the novel are odd and confusing too.

jmal said:
What lost my potential import was partly the animation inconsistencies of eps 5 and 10, though thankfully they have not returned, but much more importantly the weak presentation of Saki's character.
That's the other major reason that people quoted for not buying the BD or even dropping the show.

Another reason often quoted is the character design, which many think does not fit the mood and theme of the novel (though I have no problem with that).

Amazingly, very few people quote the homosexuality shown in the anime as a problem, which apparently caused quite a lot of flame wars and bashing storms in western fandom (MAL is one example). Just goes to show how often, despite what some western fans like to think, fans in the west are not necessarily more open-minded or tolerant compared to otaku in Japan.

And all these do not have to do with story (except the one I mentioned earlier about adaptation and attention to story details), so getting fired up or feeling down just because you love an anime for its story and its apparent lack of "pandering" (which is actually very arguable) and it sells/bombs is a bit simplistic and shallow.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Seriously, I keep being baffled by how well Tari Tari is doing. I don't get at all how it got so popular with the japanese, maybe PA hit a nerve or something. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the show myself, but I never initially would've expected it to sell nearly this high, in my opinion there are many shows who'd much rather need the support. But maybe that's just me.
 
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> *4, 3,384 18,833 Biohazard: Damnation Limited Edition
> *5, 2,092 26,599 Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 1 - Yokuryuu wa Maiorita Limited Edition
> *9, *,968 20,273 Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon II vol.5 Limited Edition

great to see this monsters

> 11, *9,001 Psycho-Pass

fuck ye!!! psycho-pass is earning!!! but it needs more sales!!!
 
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jmal said:
bNq said:
Seriously, I keep being baffled by how well Tari Tari is doing. I don't get at all how it got so popular with the japanese, maybe PA hit a nerve or something. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the show myself, but I never initially would've expected it to sell nearly this high
It's averaging almost exactly the same as Hanasaku Iroha. I'm pretty sure it brought along most of the same fans. 8.3-8.5k average is certainly good, though not sure it should be on the level of baffling. It's not like it's raking in 20k or whatnot.
Those PA shows have very high production quality - animation, music (which is particularly true for TT), character design, background art, and consistently so throughout the series. Add a competent story telling and characterization that watchers can sympathize or empathize, and the result is decent sales. As jmal said, it is not "big hit" selling like it's 20k or 15k, so it is not really that hard to grasp.

As I said earlier, western fans seem to focus too much on story and plot, and forget all the other factors that fans in Japan take into account to make a buying decision except when it is moe or fan service (but then even that accounts for a limited number of sales except for some genres).
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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jmal said:
It's averaging almost exactly the same as Hanasaku Iroha. I'm pretty sure it brought along most of the same fans. 8.3-8.5k average is certainly good, though not sure it should be on the level of baffling. It's not like it's raking in 20k or whatnot.
The fanbase thing is actually a good argument, thanks for pointing that out. Makes a bit more sense to me now. With Hanasaku Iroha I "expected" the show to do good, sales wise. With Tari Tari there were a lot of things where they could've done much better - in my opinion at least - so maybe I'm biased here, or more likely just suck at predicting taste of japanese. Either way, point is, it's baffling me.
Enough of my ranting though, I'm glad for PA.

Also, nice to see Love Live still up there.

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As I said earlier, western fans seem to focus too much on story and plot, and forget all the other factors that fans in Japan take into account to make a buying decision.
For me that's definitely right, I'm a scrub when it comes to these technical stuff. Still don't know what people went on about in SSY, but well, I guess ignorance really is bliss.
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Saddened about the low sales of Shinsekai Yori and Ixion Saga DT.

Nice to see Code Geass still up there its a decent start to the OVA series.
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
 
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bNq said:
With Tari Tari there were a lot of things where they could've done much better - in my opinion at least - so maybe I'm biased here, or more likely just suck at predicting taste of japanese. Either way, point is, it's baffling me.
I also think it can be done better, especially regarding certain arc and the last part of the story, but there are many things it did right, particularly if you look at things outside story and plot. And from what I see, those things that were done right are sufficient for people to buy in and spend the money.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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bNq said:
Also, nice to see Love Live still up there.


Love Live! is also doing pretty well at Amazon JP, Gamers (nearly every day) & Softmap!

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**8位/*10位 ★ (**4,267 pt) [*,*64予約] 13/03/22 ラブライブ! 1 (初回限定版) [Blu-ray]
*81位/*94位 ★ (**1,483 pt) [*,*29予約] 13/04/24 ラブライブ! 2 (初回限定版) [Blu-ray]
*92位/*92位 ★ (**1,259 pt) [*,*25予約] 13/07/26 ラブライブ! 5 (初回限定版) [Blu-ray]
*94位/110位 ★ (**1,291 pt) [*,*24予約] 13/06/21 ラブライブ! 4 (初回限定版) [Blu-ray]
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*98位/120位 ★ (**1,236 pt) [*,*23予約] 13/09/25 ラブライブ! 7 (初回限定版) [Blu-ray]

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006位 ラブライブ!2初回限定版BD◆先着予約特典「特製オリジナルポストカード」◆全巻連続予約購入特典:「描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」◆
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On topic, glad to see GaruPan v1 add another ~1k sales in its 8th week :)
Modified by Ejc, Feb 12, 2013 3:33 AM
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symbv said:
jmal said:
Story is by far the strongest part of Shinsekai Yori for me (although it had some major bumps early on).
Those early bumps got a lot of people to drop the show apparently. At the end, the story in the novel is very good (as a reader of the original novel I could surely tell) but it is the adaptation and its presentation that is the issue. I forgot how many times I posted in MAL to correct what viewers got wrong from the show, and some of the changes from the novel are odd and confusing too.


Those aspects improved later on, and we see fewer and fewer confused people in the thread discussion. But I guess that first impressions are important when you're talking about selling, and yeah, some early episodes were really confusing and inconsistent.
 
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Ejc said:
bNq said:
Also, nice to see Love Live still up there.
Love Live! is also doing pretty well at Amazon JP, Gamers (nearly every day) & Softmap!
Love Live! is heading from boost to boost in the last 2 weeks because both ep.5 and 6 receive widespread praises and generates a big deal of enthusiasm. I said last week that its bounce in Amazon sales ranking was bigger than the bounces after the airing of earlier episodes, but the amazing thing is that the rise has stayed, and after ep.6 its ranking further rose. The last 2 days its ranking was further boosted by the announcement that the cut-off date for the vol.1 BD preorder (used for estimation of the number of BD to print) is within this week. It is now ranked as #11 and #3 among anime BD. Sales projection also rose from 6.5k to 10k now.

Sales projection for later volumes is quite a bit lower, perhaps because the lack of event ticket is one key reason, but yet their performance in Amazon sales ranking is getting stronger too, showing that the whole series is getting major boost by the favorable feedback by watchers.

Love Live OP and its Best Album has been adding sales over the past weeks. The album has >19k sales now and OP is approaching15k sales, and now we have the first week's sales of ED at >12k. It seems its music is also benefiting from the successful anime.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Also, why is Sukitte out of rankings? It didn't sell? cause that would be strange considering the success of the manga.
 
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Those aspects improved later on, and we see fewer and fewer confused people in the thread discussion. But I guess that first impressions are important when you're talking about selling, and yeah, some early episodes were really confusing and inconsistent.
While I agree those aspects improved later on, the fact that we see fewer and fewer confused people may have to do with people already dropping off from the show.

This indeed shows why the early stages of a show can be really important in defining the opinion about a show among fans. If a show fails to impress people by ep.3 (or ep.5/6 for a 2-cour show) then it risks at being neglected by fans and ended up as an "air anime", which Shinsekai Yori is unfortunately becoming one. The key feature of an "air anime" is miserable sales -- which SSY shares.

Some people may want to stress that people should give a show a chance or time to prove itself, but the truth is, given the high number of shows airing in a season and limited time watchers have, it is only natural that they give a show only limited time to prove its appeal.

I feel sad for SSY as I have a lot of things I like in the adaptation (its sense of art and its music are just two things I like a lot) but I can also see why people stay away from it.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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SetsukoHara said:
Also, why is Sukitte out of rankings? It didn't sell? cause that would be strange considering the success of the manga.
Yeah, we never see any number coming out for Sukitte. I am hoping that with the expansion of BD weekly sales chart to top 100 we may at last see some number for some of the later volumes.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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symbv said:
bNq said:
With Tari Tari there were a lot of things where they could've done much better - in my opinion at least - so maybe I'm biased here, or more likely just suck at predicting taste of japanese. Either way, point is, it's baffling me.
I also think it can be done better, especially regarding certain arc and the last part of the story, but there are many things it did right, particularly if you look at things outside story and plot. And from what I see, those things that were done right are sufficient for people to buy in and spend the money.


People like me! I loved Tari Tari and bought the whole shebang, all six volumes of BD, soundtrack, the two volumes of manga...

Watching the event, the cast loved the show. The girls were all in tears. I guess a movie lkke Hanasaku Iroha is all we can hope for. Most of the cast have worked with P.A Works before and some are already lined up in their next projects.

I am a big fan of P.A. Works shows but not just because of P.A. Works. The shows just connect with me on a deep emotional level for some reason. Can't put my finger on it but the characters are always striving for something in a way that connects with me.

I am looking forward to Red Data Girl even though some aspects of the premise worry me, hoping not to close to Hiiro no Kakera and Kamisama Hajimemashita, as the shrine maiden thing rarely works for me... Hmm, I see it is from a novel series, amazon.co.jp here I come...

symbv said:
SetsukoHara said:
Also, why is Sukitte out of rankings? It didn't sell? cause that would be strange considering the success of the manga.
Yeah, we never see any number coming out for Sukitte. I am hoping that with the expansion of BD weekly sales chart to top 100 we may at last see some number for some of the later volumes.


The week the second volume came out there was a top 100 with threshold of like ~250 and sadly Sukitte still didn't rank. I love the show and the manga even more. Sadly there is much more fun stuff to animate. One OVA to look forward to at least...

Regarding Shinsekai Yori, I don't think it was ever going to sell. Just not a winning formula. I love the novel and the show but it is not the sort of thing Japanese anime buyers want. Why make the show then? No idea...

I imported all of these of course, Tari Tari, Shinsekai Yori and Sukitte ii na yo. Love them all even if I am the only person who bought them...
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Regarding Shinsekai Yori, I don't think it was ever going to sell. Just not a winning formula. I love the novel and the show but it is not the sort of thing Japanese anime buyers want. Why make the show then? No idea...
To boost the sales of the novel? Perhaps they see the anime would at least get some sales, not bombing like this? As much as I agree that few should expect it was ever going to sell but <1k is still very much substantially lower than many had expected, including the anime production people I would say.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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It's nice to see GirlPan on top.
 
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GirlPan vol 2 will dominate the charts. Should be released soon if my memory serves me right. Other than that I'm just counting the days until Horizon gets its third season announced.
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symbv said:
hpulley said:
Regarding Shinsekai Yori, I don't think it was ever going to sell. Just not a winning formula. I love the novel and the show but it is not the sort of thing Japanese anime buyers want. Why make the show then? No idea...
To boost the sales of the novel? Perhaps they see the anime would at least get some sales, not bombing like this? As much as I agree that few should expect it was ever going to sell but <1k is still very much substantially lower than many had expected, including the anime production people I would say.


I agree they must have thought that it would do better than it did. Anime sales of a few thousand were probably expected.

Why sales so poor? If only they knew they would only make hit shows... Low quality vs. Production delays? Poor style choices? Too moe or not moe enough? Too much yaoiyuri or not enough? With high number of fans of the novel do you try to please them or new fans? Both? End up pleasing none...
 
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I never really expected any sales out of SSY. Granted I haven't watched the show, but those types of anime never sell in Japan. The character designs aren't interesting to your normal otaku, theres no jpop single to draw those fans, it focuses far more on story than characters, which is a big turn off to otaku...

It really does everything to NOT be a good seller.

 
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SSY actually made a large boost for novel sales. Last edition of novel sold 2-2.5 times more than first one(don't remember the precise sales) and part of this because the anime. And I actually don't care about anime sales here cause they'll adapt all the story. Same goes for Sakurasou.
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
SSY actually made a large boost for novel sales. Last edition of novel sold 2-2.5 times more than first one(don't remember the precise sales) and part of this because the anime. And I actually don't care about anime sales here cause they'll adapt all the story. Same goes for Sakurasou.


It does mean that companies may be scared off of green lighting more thriller anime like it in the future if people don't buy the physical release. Novel sales are nice, but the real money comes from those 80 dollar BD volumes.

 
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Do we know the exact increase in novel sales? Because 200,000 (to pull a number out of my ass) novels at ~¥750 per is the equivalent of 19k BDs at ¥7875, or about 2,100 average across 9 volumes. More if people are buying the more expensive releases (it's been released in multiple formats). I'd also assume 200k is a conservative estimate for total lifetime sales increase, much of which will be long tail we don't see reported.

Certainly it's not huge. Nobody is getting rich off SSY. I also don't know how novel margins compare to DVD/BD margins (approx 45% of MSRP). But it's definitely possible for the original novels to be the bread and butter of an adaptation.


this makes me think of Chihayafuru...though this one is a manga. It sold...um...less than 2000 BD/DVDs per volume I think? Yet, a second season is being made. I really don't know how much of a boost Chihayafuru got but it was enough to warrant another season. Sukitte Ii Na Yo and Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun and Zetsuen no Tempest are also in the same boat I think. I don't think they got a boost like Chihayafuru but their latest volumes sold quite a bit more than their previous volumes.
I don't know how to compare BD/DVD sales numbers to manga sales but it has to mean something.
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
SSY actually made a large boost for novel sales. Last edition of novel sold 2-2.5 times more than first one(don't remember the precise sales) and part of this because the anime. And I actually don't care about anime sales here cause they'll adapt all the story. Same goes for Sakurasou.


How are they going to do all of Sakurasou when the novels are not finished? They have finished animating about five of the ten planned, eight completed novels but the anime is almost done this season. You sure they will finish Sakurasou!? I am not so sure and I have read to the end of the latest one, volume eight (which is great BTW!!).
 
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I'm glad GirlPan and Jojo could add even more to their stacks because this was a slow week :)


Regarding the SSY debate, I've come to terms with it not selling but at least the novel is doing well. Can't understand the criticism in this thread though. Animation inconsistencies don't bother me in a story-based series and I found the 'confusion' to almost always be perfectly balanced, just knowing enough to know what's generally going on, but little enough to always want to watch the next episode.
Can't blame people who read the novel for being unsatisfied though. I haven't read it myself, but it's common to bicker about adaptions of your favorites more than you usually would (I do it too).


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Regarding the SSY debate, I've come to terms with it not selling but at least the novel is doing well. Can't understand the criticism in this thread though. Animation inconsistencies don't bother me in a story-based series and I found the 'confusion' to almost always be perfectly balanced, just knowing enough to know what's generally going on, but little enough to always want to watch the next episode.
Can't blame people who read the novel for being unsatisfied though. I haven't read it myself, but it's common to bicker about adaptions of your favorites more than you usually would (I do it too).


Same here, I understood the basic premise and enough of it with just the first watch, though, symbv did make everything a lot more clearer which makes me think if A-1 or Aniplex (whichever one it is that is producing it) tried a bit harder with the explanations of the concepts, I think it might have sold pretty well. Not Psycho-Pass well or Kuroko no BasketBall well, but enough, I think, to get at least a 1000 more off of the BD/DVD sales.
 
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Bit off topic for this list of releases but jmal or symbv any idea about the Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kuru Sou Desu yo? anime pre-orders? Since it said on animenewsnetwork that the novel sales quadrupled i was wondering if the anime looks to do well or it is just the novel sales that got a boost atm.
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After watching all the Hidamari franchise, gotta say I'm happy with Honeycomb's sales.
 
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Impact on source material sales seems to have no correlation with anime sales at all.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
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jmal said:
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Bit off topic for this list of releases but jmal or symbv any idea about the Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kuru Sou Desu yo? anime pre-orders? Since it said on animenewsnetwork that the novel sales quadrupled i was wondering if the anime looks to do well or it is just the novel sales that got a boost atm.

Just the novels. The anime will be lucky to sell 2k, based on current rankings.


Ok thx, from what i heard they are skimming the source material and the they only gave it 10 episodes so i can see why it might not sell that well and they would buy the novels instead. Source material is nearly always better anyway for anything.
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Slicer22 said:
jmal said:
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Bit off topic for this list of releases but jmal or symbv any idea about the Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kuru Sou Desu yo? anime pre-orders? Since it said on animenewsnetwork that the novel sales quadrupled i was wondering if the anime looks to do well or it is just the novel sales that got a boost atm.

Just the novels. The anime will be lucky to sell 2k, based on current rankings.


Ok thx, from what i heard they are skimming the source material and the they only gave it 10 episodes so i can see why it might not sell that well and they would buy the novels instead. Source material is nearly always better anyway for anything.


Yep, genbun is always best.

Novel adaptations are always big skims. Sakurasou is about five chapters per book, bit less than 80 pages per chapter and in trying to do about a chapter or two per episode they sometimes reduce 20 pages to a couple of lines of dialogue or skip it entirely. Shinsekai Yori is actually less pages in total but is denser. Light novels like Sakurasou read like screen plays... Almost as if they knew they would be turned into anime, hmm... You can see how they will block the scenes precisely. Even Shinsekai Yori is very faithful when it isn't skipping whole pages and chapters at a time, individual scenes are very close to the book.

Manga is much easier to adapt, 288 pages can go into a single episode with ease for fight style work, drama is more dense, Tonari no Kaibutsu kun did about one chapter per episode, almost as much writing per page as some light novels if you subtract the wordy scene and expression descriptions you don't need in manga.
 
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... so getting fired up or feeling down just because you love an anime for its story and its apparent lack of "pandering" (which is actually very arguable) and it sells/bombs is a bit simplistic and shallow.


Since its evident you were referring to me, what I said is:

9988 said:

But the sad part is to see the fantastic shinsekai Yori all the way down there, one of the top best series currently airing, regardless its awesome that some series still focus 100% on story without any shameless pandering despite the evident risks.


So when did I say I love Shinsekai Yori for lack of pandering? I said the story its whats great and makes me love it, only added that its awesome, pleasing, to have a anime focus 100% on story without any pandering to please many of you and bribe you to buy discs. You further object that its delectable the lack of pandering, it would be great that you post exactly whats the supposed pandering this series has.

So what part is shallows and simplistic seriously?

So loving the story is simplistic and shallow? 0_0. But ´buying and loving series for its mere cute moe/characters and/or fanservice must be very complex and deep right...

What is shallow is that anime MUST have pandering: "fanservice-pantyshots, tits, butts, moe" to grab the attention and money of many of you.

Something that some do recognize even when you are the first to always object to the reality of the usual motivation of many of todays hardcore fans to buy discs:

RyanSaotome said:
I never really expected any sales out of SSY. Granted I haven't watched the show, but those types of anime never sell in Japan. The character designs aren't interesting to your normal otaku, theres no jpop single to draw those fans, it focuses far more on story than characters, which is a big turn off to otaku...

It really does everything to NOT be a good seller.


I will just add that thank the heavens not all anime jump into todays trends to just sell, and we can have srsioud anime focusing on story and character development.
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Lol!!! That's nice. I want to buy it too :)


Was going to say just buy it... But it is out of stock at amazon.co.jp !!!
 
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Heres the 2ch survey they Jmal was talking about.

 
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GuP will forever rule in the rankings :3

 
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jmal said:
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this makes me think of Chihayafuru...though this one is a manga. It sold...um...less than 2000 BD/DVDs per volume I think? Yet, a second season is being made.

Chihayafuru is a bit unusual in that it is backed by NHK, Japan's national public broadcaster, i.e. funded by the television licensing fee, i.e. basically tax dollars. I'm sure return on investment is still a motive to some extent, and its manga sales probably justify it anyway. But NHK has a bit more leeway in broadcasting material for cultural or educational value than just commercial viability.



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9988 said:

But the sad part is to see the fantastic shinsekai Yori all the way down there, one of the top best series currently airing, regardless its awesome that some series still focus 100% on story without any shameless pandering despite the evident risks.

So when did I say I love Shinsekai Yori for lack of pandering?
Given what you wrote above, is it not understandable that you are implying SSY is one of those series which "focus 100% on story without any shameless pandering"?

9988 said:

So what part is shallows and simplistic seriously?
That you jump up with joy for an anime because you love the story and love the lack of pandering and then you curse when an anime whose story you love does not sell.


9988 said:
So loving the story is simplistic and shallow? 0_0.
Loving the story is not simplistic and shallow. Commenting things about sales based only on how you perceive about story and pandering is.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Can't understand the criticism in this thread though. Animation inconsistencies don't bother me in a story-based series and I found the 'confusion' to almost always be perfectly balanced, just knowing enough to know what's generally going on, but little enough to always want to watch the next episode.
The topic of what fans look for in anime and how they judge an anime is brought up many times in places like 2ch, and every time animation is considered very important factor. And I would say that for the actual buyers it is even more important. And it can often trumps story even. This is also why many Japanese anime fans find western TV cartoon unappealing -- because of what they perceive as low level of animation (as well as cultural barrier of understanding the humor of course).

As for confusion, I am not sure if you read the SSY threads in MAL. There are often important points that viewers get wrong which if you are reading the equivalent pages in the novel would have already been made unambiguously clear. So those adaptation decisions only led to confusion and it led to frustration, and people dropping the show.

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I never really expected any sales out of SSY. Granted I haven't watched the show, but those types of anime never sell in Japan.
But still I don't think sales as poor as <1k is to be expected. That level of sales is considered pretty humiliating in Japan. I guess the production did not expect to sell 10k or so but I am sure they were at least hoping for a fighting chance at the manabi line.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Chihayafuru is an NTV show,not an NHK show.

Huh, right you are, not sure why I thought it was NHK. Thanks for the correction.
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Heres the 2ch survey they Jmal was talking about.
Surprisingly /a/'s list is MUCH better
 
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I'm pretty sure the sales for SSY dropped even further once episode 8 came about. It seems many had a big problem with it.
 
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Full list is up.

Psycho-Pass ranks for an 8th time, SAO for a 16th time. Sakura-sou and Magi first volumes get a second week.
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