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Feb 3, 2013 12:26 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Intense power is intense. I loved Alibaba's new ability. It seemed to affect Judal's mind mentally..hmm, that's kinda interesting imo. Anyways, I don't really like Kassim at all now especially what he's been doing and..damn, striking Alibaba like that. Dat emotions:



So, I'm guessing this arc is finally going to end. Well about time. The conclusion of this arc was somewhat cute imo :p
 
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Feb 3, 2013 2:21 AM

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Wow.....this didn't feel anywhere near to the emotional level of the manga (I almost cried in the manga) especially that last part, for some to me reason it felt incredibly forced while it seemed natural (and very emotional) in the manga.

Ya, I can't force myself to keep watching this (especially knowing they'll be squeezing Zagan and Sindria Arc in to 7 episodes).......dropped

For those who are enjoying the Magi anime, I apologize for my rant and please keep enjoying it. I am sure, had I not read the manga first I would've enjoyed Magi to the same extent as you (probably hated Alibaba and Cassim to a similar extent as you....sorry ranting again).
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Feb 3, 2013 2:32 AM

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And finally animation was pretty decent in this episode! Now I'm waiting for next episode but the preview made me upset..


I Loled when Sinbad destroyed bad guy, his scream was funny.
 
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Feb 3, 2013 2:50 AM

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Fuckin hell Sinbad and the crew stole the show at the end. Got chills during that epic action scene
 
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Feb 3, 2013 4:07 AM

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XD Wtf. Sinbad is damn strong. 1 hit kill but sadly the head is alive :/ so creepy...


 
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Feb 3, 2013 5:52 AM

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Not bad of an episode, so I won't complain much this time, despite that I just wanted Kaji Yuki to stfu at some points.
Al-Sarmen's intro was good despite how fast it was.

So that guy was actually Isnan wasn't he? They brought the snake to this part of the series.. Original ending, anyone? Oh how I smell one. It also appears they will cram the next 2 arcs, the next 40 chapters, into 7-9 episodes, so yeah, another mess like the first 7 episodes, starting with skipping the fat Alibaba and Aladdin chapter?

I guess I might continue watching it to see how hard it's gonna fail. Hopefully I can make it through the rest of the series.
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Feb 3, 2013 9:12 AM

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I hear a lot from the manga isn't done really welll in the anime.
Thanks for letting me know, I'll pick up the manga as well :)
 
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Feb 3, 2013 11:07 AM
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Candor said:
Not bad of an episode, so I won't complain much this time, despite that I just wanted Kaji Yuki to stfu at some points.
Al-Sarmen's intro was good despite how fast it was.

So that guy was actually Isnan wasn't he? They brought the snake to this part of the series.. Original ending, anyone? Oh how I smell one. It also appears they will cram the next 2 arcs, the next 50 chapters, into 7-9 episodes, so yeah, another mess like the first 7 episodes, starting with skipping the fat Alibaba and Aladdin chapter?

I guess I might continue watching it to see how hard it's gonna fail. Hopefully I can make it through the rest of the series.


Hmm, I saw Mor wearing the dancing dress in a preview. I can't quite remember whereabouts that happened in the manga, but that's a little worrying...

As for this episode, I haven't actually watched subs yet lol. But it looked like it was done okay, they made it awfully a lot more cheerful than the manga though XD (at the end)
 
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Feb 3, 2013 12:24 PM

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Hmm, I saw Mor wearing the dancing dress in a preview. I can't quite remember whereabouts that happened in the manga, but that's a little worrying...


It was in chapter 81
 
Feb 3, 2013 12:27 PM

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I wish the previous episodes had the same quality animation this one has.
I don't think the ending was significantly more cheerful than the manga but surely they made it more hopeful and less depressing. Kassim's death was handled beautifully and it still made me tear up a bit especially when he said it would have been better if they'd talked things over with Alibaba.
Sinbad also had his screentime with Baal, just as little in the manga and it was satisfying. :D
Seems like they'll cut out a lot of things from the manga in the next episode which I'm not pleased with at all. I wish this was a long runner and they'd actually flesh things out rather than squeeze 100 chapters into 25 episodes :/
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I wish the previous episodes had the same quality animation this one has.
I don't think the ending was significantly more cheerful than the manga but surely they made it more hopeful and less depressing. Kassim's death was handled beautifully and it still made me tear up a bit especially when he said it would have been better if they'd talked things over with Alibaba.
Sinbad also had his screentime with Baal, just as little in the manga and it was satisfying. :D
Seems like they'll cut out a lot of things from the manga in the next episode which I'm not pleased with at all. I wish this was a long runner and they'd actually flesh things out rather other than squeeze 100 chapters into 25 episodes :/


It might be a long-runner, I haven't seen anything that indicated 24-25 episodes. I don't know, have you seen anything that said it would have that many episodes?
 
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denshiraku said:
sayami said:
I wish the previous episodes had the same quality animation this one has.
I don't think the ending was significantly more cheerful than the manga but surely they made it more hopeful and less depressing. Kassim's death was handled beautifully and it still made me tear up a bit especially when he said it would have been better if they'd talked things over with Alibaba.
Sinbad also had his screentime with Baal, just as little in the manga and it was satisfying. :D
Seems like they'll cut out a lot of things from the manga in the next episode which I'm not pleased with at all. I wish this was a long runner and they'd actually flesh things out rather other than squeeze 100 chapters into 25 episodes :/


It might be a long-runner, I haven't seen anything that indicated 24-25 episodes. I don't know, have you seen anything that said it would have that many episodes?
Even if they did make it a long runner, if they kept going at this pace they won't be able to animate more than 40 episodes, because they're just skimming through the material and they'd probably reach the new chapters in less than a year, and the manga is still far from its end. Also, if they're planning for a long-runner, why are they going at that 4-6 chapter per episode pace?

Another thing that kinda confirms that it's not gonna be a long-runner is that here's an anime that'll air in its slot in April, namely Space Battleship Yamamoto 2199.
 
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Candor said:
denshiraku said:
sayami said:
I wish the previous episodes had the same quality animation this one has.
I don't think the ending was significantly more cheerful than the manga but surely they made it more hopeful and less depressing. Kassim's death was handled beautifully and it still made me tear up a bit especially when he said it would have been better if they'd talked things over with Alibaba.
Sinbad also had his screentime with Baal, just as little in the manga and it was satisfying. :D
Seems like they'll cut out a lot of things from the manga in the next episode which I'm not pleased with at all. I wish this was a long runner and they'd actually flesh things out rather other than squeeze 100 chapters into 25 episodes :/


It might be a long-runner, I haven't seen anything that indicated 24-25 episodes. I don't know, have you seen anything that said it would have that many episodes?
Even if they did make it a long runner, if they kept going at this pace they won't be able to animate more than 40 episodes, because they're just skimming through the material and they'd probably reach the new chapters in less than a year, and the manga is still far from its end. Also, if they're planning for a long-runner, why are they going at that 4-6 chapter per episode pace?

Another thing that kinda confirms that it's not gonna be a long-runner is that here's an anime that'll air in its slot in April, namely Space Battleship Yamamoto 2199.


Aw, that sucks, well, I hope it'll get more seasons then.
 
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When Aladdin told Alibaba something like "You can't keep on crying, or he won't be able to come back." I worried for a moment, and thought "they are not going to pull some Cassim going to revive crap. right?" >_>

Anyways, I like the ending for this arc.


Also, anyone knows why Sinbad got tired after using that thunder lightning move?
 
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Candor said:
Even if they did make it a long runner, if they kept going at this pace they won't be able to animate more than 40 episodes, because they're just skimming through the material and they'd probably reach the new chapters in less than a year, and the manga is still far from its end. Also, if they're planning for a long-runner, why are they going at that 4-6 chapter per episode pace?

Another thing that kinda confirms that it's not gonna be a long-runner is that here's an anime that'll air in its slot in April, namely Space Battleship Yamamoto 2199.


But still, it would make more sense to me if they added an added 12 more episodes, ending after the Pirates arc instead of after the Zagan arc makes more sense to me :/
 
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denshiraku said:
Candor said:
Even if they did make it a long runner, if they kept going at this pace they won't be able to animate more than 40 episodes, because they're just skimming through the material and they'd probably reach the new chapters in less than a year, and the manga is still far from its end. Also, if they're planning for a long-runner, why are they going at that 4-6 chapter per episode pace?

Another thing that kinda confirms that it's not gonna be a long-runner is that here's an anime that'll air in its slot in April, namely Space Battleship Yamamoto 2199.


But still, it would make more sense to me if they added an added 12 more episodes, ending after the Pirates arc instead of after the Zagan arc makes more sense to me :/
Well tbh, nothing A-1 is doing makes sense, starting from episode 1, so let's see how they're planning to do things from here on, especially with the Isnan matter.
 
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Came to check if it was getting better after reading 4 excellent magi chapters....geez so they are not even stopping now but still going on 6 chapter per episode pace? Good thing I dropped this at episode 3 or something then. Seems the plan was simply to make medicore garbage to sell of the name of a good manga.
 
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Came to check if it was getting better after reading 4 excellent magi chapters....geez so they are not even stopping now but still going on 6 chapter per episode pace? Good thing I dropped this at episode 3 or something then. Seems the plan was simply to make medicore garbage to sell of the name of a good manga.
First, you shouldn't be posting here because you have not even seen the episode.

Second, episode 17 covers up chapter 76 of the manga. Assuming that nothing significant was skipped, the anime is going at a pace of 4.5 chapters per episode. 6 is WAY OFF.

Third, in my opinion, Magi is one of the better animated golden time anime. Not to mention that it looks like it will have good BD/DVD sales (according to Amazon Stalker).
 
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Shih said:
Mephz said:
Came to check if it was getting better after reading 4 excellent magi chapters....geez so they are not even stopping now but still going on 6 chapter per episode pace? Good thing I dropped this at episode 3 or something then. Seems the plan was simply to make medicore garbage to sell of the name of a good manga.
First, you shouldn't be posting here because you have not even seen the episode.

Second, episode 17 covers up chapter 76 of the manga. Assuming that nothing significant was skipped, the anime is going at a pace of 4.5 chapters per episode. 6 is WAY OFF.

Third, in my opinion, Magi is one of the better animated golden time anime. Not to mention that it looks like it will have good BD/DVD sales (according to Amazon Stalker).


First. There is no such rule.

Second, either way it was very noticable with the pacing, I also assume it was different in each episode, sometimes faster and somtimes slower.

Third, don't care about your opinion.
 
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Haha, wow! Ain't seen this just yet, but I gotta say, I never forget Magi is out on Monday morning for me, I totally forgot today due to the extreme disappointment of last week. I don't think an episode of anime has ever disappointed me like last week's Magi. It also sucks to hear they'll try squeeze so much into 7-8 more episodes. Why can't they make it an odd numbered episode of anime, like a few others that have ended after 30 odd? I'd rather they ended it around the World Exploration arc.

I will definitely finish this though, I was able to look past everything else they did wrong(something I'm really good at, otherwise I'd be too disappointed at most anime that comes out LOL) and I absolutely hate not finishing something I've invested this much time into.
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How come this episode reminds me strongly of the End of Evangelion movie and the Evangelion TV ending??
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Feb 4, 2013 6:40 AM
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Hakuryuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Please be animated naoooooooooo!!! XD
 
Feb 4, 2013 11:34 AM

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I loved this episode ! =D it was very sad that kassim died ='( (Alibaba's best friend)
but a happy ending =D
 
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Hakuryuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Please be animated naoooooooooo!!! XD


Soon, my dear, soon...
 
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Hakuryuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Please be animated naoooooooooo!!! XD


Why do you want sasuke 2.0 to be animated?
 
Feb 4, 2013 12:25 PM

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Intense power is intense. I loved Alibaba's new ability. It seemed to affect Judal's mind mentally..hmm, that's kinda interesting imo

i havent watch the anime yet coz im still waiting for sub.. but what u mean there is aladins new ability right(solomons wisdom)??

 
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Hazuno said:
Hakuryuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Please be animated naoooooooooo!!! XD


Why do you want sasuke 2.0 to be animated?


Er... he's not Sasuke 2.0...
Where did you get that idea?
 
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I think that was a pretty good ending for the conclusion of the Balbadd arc. Not as depressing as the manga, certainly. Can't wait for the next episode! c:
 
Feb 4, 2013 4:48 PM

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Hmm, from what I'm hearing about the manga, I guess I'll read it after this series is over, to get the full experience the anime skipped.
 
Feb 4, 2013 6:57 PM

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Decent episode,
Nice ending.
About time this arc was over.
Wonder what the manga dudes thought of this episode.
 
Feb 4, 2013 7:04 PM

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That was beautiful.

My man Kassim went out like a boss.

Oh man, next week, can't wait, Sinbad's gang is about to get introduced.
 
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And finally the Balbadd arc ends! This episode make me cry...ugh, Cassim and Alibaba's talk had so much emotions....then at the end too when Aladdin used Solomon's Wisdom. So beautiful. But yeah, I agree, that A-1 isn't really doing that great of a job in the animation...seriously, sometimes the faces look really odd, I mean how hard is it to take just a few more seconds to make the face look better? =_= It's not only Magi, but they get lazy too with Shinsekai Yori. BUT still a wonderful episode. Good to see that they actually took the time to keep everything the same in the conversation between Cassim and Alibaba, and I like the background they used during that scene as well.

By the way, have they officially stated how many episodes there are? I saw someone said above that there are only 7 episodes left...
 
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Great finale to a very touching arc. :)

5/5

 
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Sinbad is so op.

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A weak conclusion to a corresponding arc. I feel the Rukh is utilized as nothing more than a convenient device to bridge gaps. These episodes introduced some interesting characters at least, as well as discarding an uninteresting one. I supposed the next episode will wrap up some loose ends involving the future of Balbadd, and hopefully it moves on to something more remarkable.
 
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I think that was a pretty good ending for the conclusion of the Balbadd arc. Not as depressing as the manga, certainly.

Well, I shed a few tears, actually. Curious about how it goes on the manga.

This arc was pretty good imo. There isn't really much to wrap up, Balbadd will become a republic and people will be happier, that's it. Let's see what Sindria arc will deliver.
 
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Great ending to an awesome arc!!!!
 
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SO much better then last week's episode. I teared up quite a few times, especially when all the people went to see their loved ones and Mariam showed up.

Also... DAWWWW Morgiana is just too cute! >3< running to hug Al and Ali.
 
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A weak conclusion to a corresponding arc.

For me it was a surprisingly strong conclusion rather than a weak one, especially compared to some of the rubbish that went on in some of the past episodes.


The last part where the ED song started playing was kind of happier than I imagined.
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Curious about how it goes on the manga.

This ending is slightly more bitter than sweet there.



ohohoho the preview.


Forgot to add that FukuJun was brilliant here.
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Great ending to an awesome arc. Really liked this Balbadd arc since we got to see more about Alibaba's past. Wow Kassim's father was such a dick and Kassim ended up killing his father.That explains why he was acting all strange and rebellious towards Alibaba since he's so 'different'. I admit I felt pretty sad this episode, close to getting teary. Sinbad's transformation and doing that lightning move was unexpected yet awesome.
I smiled when Aladdin said that 'the dead doesn't die and instead return to the great flow of rukh' followed by 'go back to your loved ones!' :)
 
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denshiraku said:
alexx_310 said:
Hazuno said:
Hakuryuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Please be animated naoooooooooo!!! XD


Why do you want sasuke 2.0 to be animated?


Er... he's not Sasuke 2.0...
Where did you get that idea?


Haha, I can actually see the reasoning behind that xD



Yay, finally Sharrkan and Yamu! :D
And I really hope they don't skip the funny parts from the manga coming up in the next ep :(

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awsome ending for the arc... cant ask for more wooo..
cant wait to see yamu next week :)

 
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And finally the Balbadd arc ends! This episode make me cry...ugh, Cassim and Alibaba's talk had so much emotions....then at the end too when Aladdin used Solomon's Wisdom. So beautiful. But yeah, I agree, that A-1 isn't really doing that great of a job in the animation...seriously, sometimes the faces look really odd, I mean how hard is it to take just a few more seconds to make the face look better? =_= It's not only Magi, but they get lazy too with Shinsekai Yori. BUT still a wonderful episode. Good to see that they actually took the time to keep everything the same in the conversation between Cassim and Alibaba, and I like the background they used during that scene as well.

By the way, have they officially stated how many episodes there are? I saw someone said above that there are only 7 episodes left...


if it was a 25 episode anime they normally say

i think its gunna be on going cause u could add fillers for this anime and they would be good xd

anyways a amazing anime, great episode yet again
 
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Meh. I've started to get bored of this anime. It's time for a fresh start. I don't think Kassim will be a one-time character. He'll probably be revived.
 
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Meh. I've started to get bored of this anime. It's time for a fresh start. I don't think Kassim will be a one-time character. He'll probably be revived.


whats boring about this anime?

its probs the best of 2013 easily lol
 
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Too much unnecessary drama, the manga's pace is much quicker and doesn't drag on.

Also at the same moment of the manga, solomon's wisdom was explained about what it does but they just skipped it
 
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^ Mind explaining what is Solomon's Wisdom in a spoiler, if you have time?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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This was pretty satisfying :D Definately a lot better than the previous ep.
Had some nice animation and they added some effects the manga didnt have. (like the dripping black goop) the voice acting was really emotional.
In the manga the ruhk souls didn't talk, but that Mariam was really cute.
It's a lot less tragic from the manga I suppose. From the looks of the preview it seems like they are going to skip/change some things. Oh dear.. XD but I suppose it might be necessary because they don't have many eps left to use.. But I hope they don't butcher the characters along with.

itsvero said:
Meh. I've started to get bored of this anime. It's time for a fresh start. I don't think Kassim will be a one-time character. He'll probably be revived.


No
 
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^ Mind explaining what is Solomon's Wisdom in a spoiler, if you have time?


http://magi.wikia.com/wiki/Wisdom_of_Solomon

OT: Great episode, finally this arc ends. I wonder what will happen next. I still wonder if this is only a 2 cour.
 
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