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Jan 17, 2013 9:36 PM
#1
are there any good live action adaptaions of anime from Japan because American mess up their own already.I remember reading a live action death note was horrible and Gantz was so so. But i want to know can a transition from page to live action film can work |
Jan 17, 2013 10:02 PM
#2
Oh God, yes! Great Teacher Onizuka has two different live action adaptations, along with a movie if I'm not mistaken. They're both really good, especially the newer one. Actually, I'm not much a fan of the anime, so the live action was quite a surprise. Although others' opinions my vary on this one, I think Hana Yori Dango had a pretty good live action adaptation as well. |
Jan 17, 2013 10:04 PM
#3
indeed sir :3 |
Jan 17, 2013 10:07 PM
#4
Ehhh I think is something people should stay away from... Unless you know what you're doing and have a pretty hefty budget (IE Transformers). I wouldn't mind seeing a live action of an anime that was really low budget.... To the point where you could tell....Like Death Note. |
Jan 17, 2013 10:11 PM
#5
I've heard that the Nodame Cantabile live action was said to be better than the manga, because of it's setting. Action ones are hard to make well. |
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Jan 17, 2013 10:12 PM
#6
Depends on who's doing the adaptation... Most (all?) movies based on anime made in hollywood sucked in my opinion... Also I recently seen Rurouni Kenshin movie and well... As a movie it was good. As an adaptation it sucked because creators decided to merge to story arcs and forgot to include the most characters that made that arc great in anime (imho) Edit: I'm 83% sure that hollywood's adaptation of Akira will suck donkey dicks. But maybe that's just nostalgia speaking |
WhisperBitJan 17, 2013 10:16 PM
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Jan 17, 2013 10:32 PM
#7
The typical problem with most adaptations is the need to compress a multi-episodes/arcs content into a movie length. Nodame Cantabile works because the adaptation is a drama series instead of a one-shot movie, giving plenty of time for character development. Once everybody is comfortable with the characters, they made the specials to end it (and they can go right into the story). Plus they actually shoot some of the special movies' scenes in Europe. Couple with the high profile stars and pretty decent attempt to follow the source material, it ended up great. Many of the drama series ones are good too, such as Hana Yori Dango (another high profile one). Imo Death Note is good, but the second part clearly felt "rushed" to end it. I haven't read the source material of Gantz so can't comment on it, but the action is very well produced. Another problem with adaptations are the liberty that the producers took to modify the content. Example is Zettai Kareshi drama series, converting the teen characters into adults. Some took extreme liberties (Hollywood adaptations), and others seem to try to fit a different content into the franchise (Mirai Nikki drama). Problem with these are that the modification may be well-intended, but it may alienate the fans that have the highest expectations. Or course, there's no excuse for the piss poor adaptations like Dragon Ball. Many adaptations are also made-for-TV-specials instead of a full blown movie. Examples are Detective Conan and Ranma 1/2. Detective Conan is pretty good as the anime itself is episodic in nature, so no need to follow a particular arc. Ranma 1/2 is bad as it's cheaply done. In all, it depends. Budget, producers, target audience, content, creator's involvement, etc. |
Jan 17, 2013 10:54 PM
#8
I saw Kimi ni Todoke in a live adaptation; it was.... ehhhh.... |
Jan 17, 2013 11:37 PM
#9
I thought that the Rurouni Kenshin live action movie was excellent. THe story wasn't as well done as I'd like, but the essence of the characters were very well represented in the movie, maybe even more so. Also, the action scenes are not bad. :D |
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Jan 17, 2013 11:42 PM
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Jan 17, 2013 11:43 PM
#11
gensousekai said: I thought that the Rurouni Kenshin live action movie was excellent. THe story wasn't as well done as I'd like, but the essence of the characters were very well represented in the movie, maybe even more so. Also, the action scenes are not bad. :D I'm not saying the movie was bad it just that it was disappointing. When I saw Kanryu with a gatling gun in the trailer I was like "Fuck yeah! Aoshi!" and then there was no Aoshi or Hanya and I was kinda dsappointed. I agree that movie was well made. I don't want to even try to imagine what hollywood would have done with the franchise... |
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Jan 18, 2013 12:02 AM
#12
WhisperBit said: gensousekai said: I thought that the Rurouni Kenshin live action movie was excellent. THe story wasn't as well done as I'd like, but the essence of the characters were very well represented in the movie, maybe even more so. Also, the action scenes are not bad. :D I'm not saying the movie was bad it just that it was disappointing. When I saw Kanryu with a gatling gun in the trailer I was like "Fuck yeah! Aoshi!" and then there was no Aoshi or Hanya and I was kinda dsappointed. I agree that movie was well made. I don't want to even try to imagine what hollywood would have done with the franchise... I suppose it was disappointing too. I just thought of it as a side-tangent for the main to have his little adventure. Though, true, the original Rurouni Kenshin anime was run more on the power of how much you liked the characters. Also, the live action was made by an American company, probably threw out characters for more action focused on less characters. It came out in HK in early Dec so I was lucky enough to see it before my friends when i went on a trip there. XP |
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Jan 18, 2013 2:05 AM
#13
I thought the drama to Hataraki Man was on par if not better than the anime (subject matter just suits it better having real people - I know sacrilegious statement). Here's a clip (note: not actually very indicative of the drama :)) Also really liked Nodame's drama (you wouldn't think it would work - as there's a bit of slapstick - but it does. Plus the chick is really quite charming; both lead guy and girl really good). Death Note movies were alright in my book - has bloke from Iron Chef in it! Nah - didn't think it was that bad. |
Jan 18, 2013 2:31 AM
#14
Saw the Death Note movies on TV. They were shit. I tried watching the Rurouni Kenshin movie on a plane flight but I got bored about 20 minutes in and watched The Departed instead. Haven't seen any others but so far they haven't left too good an impression on me. Although I can see Usagi Drop working in live action. I'll have to watch the movie for it sometime soon. |
Jan 18, 2013 2:41 AM
#15
Sometimes, i'd say 3/4 of the time is when a live action fails portraying what was needed to be portrayed |
Jan 18, 2013 2:52 AM
#16
Maybe, maybe not. |
Jan 18, 2013 3:10 AM
#17
if its based on a realistic premise then live action works better than anime like Hataraki Man for example while more animeish premises work better as anime GTO worked cause it was well acted and also in live action verion the actor whoplayed him played more akin to a modern version of a much more famous fictional teacher [ with tastes of the manga chucked in] rather than the onizuka right from the manga and plus a 19.43 rating for that drama was more liked than the anime was |
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Jan 18, 2013 3:17 AM
#19
Sa-chan_ said: Most of the time, no. and if done by the west |
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Jan 18, 2013 3:19 AM
#20
I saw Gokusen 3 and it was great |
Jan 18, 2013 3:21 AM
#21
DateYutaka said: if its based on a realistic premise then live action works better than anime like Hataraki Man for example while more animeish premises work better as anime GTO worked cause it was well acted and also in live action verion the actor whoplayed him played more akin to a modern version of a much more famous fictional teacher [ with tastes of the manga chucked in] rather than the onizuka right from the manga and plus a 19.43 rating for that drama was more liked than the anime was The actor who plays Onizuka in the original live action and film is actually who Tohru Fujisawa based Onizuka's personality (and facial expressions) on. So he was, ultimately, playing himself - while the original manga was more of an adaptation of his existence. |
Jan 18, 2013 4:09 AM
#22
Hmm.. No wonder why his expressions is so good |
Jan 18, 2013 4:10 AM
#23
Ahri said: Ehhh I think is something people should stay away from... Unless you know what you're doing and have a pretty hefty budget (IE Transformers). I wouldn't mind seeing a live action of an anime that was really low budget.... To the point where you could tell....Like Death Note. >death note >low budget Did we watch the same anime? Unless you just worded that badly and you meant the movie was low-budget. |
Jan 18, 2013 4:19 AM
#24
TallonKarrde23 said: DateYutaka said: if its based on a realistic premise then live action works better than anime like Hataraki Man for example while more animeish premises work better as anime GTO worked cause it was well acted and also in live action verion the actor whoplayed him played more akin to a modern version of a much more famous fictional teacher [ with tastes of the manga chucked in] rather than the onizuka right from the manga and plus a 19.43 rating for that drama was more liked than the anime was The actor who plays Onizuka in the original live action and film is actually who Tohru Fujisawa based Onizuka's personality (and facial expressions) on. So he was, ultimately, playing himself - while the original manga was more of an adaptation of his existence. almost ever drama based around high school teachers so some debt to kimpachi sensei in stylistic structure and how episodes are paced |
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Jan 18, 2013 4:26 AM
#25
you guys have to watch live action of Usagi Drop...it's the only anime-based live action i like out there. Life (manga-based) is decent. Uchuu Kyoudai is so-so, Bloody Monday is quite good (dunno what the original material is, but i've read the manga) |
Jan 18, 2013 4:37 AM
#26
petalshreds said: you guys have to watch live action of Usagi Drop...it's the only anime-based live action i like out there. Life (manga-based) is decent. Uchuu Kyoudai is so-so, Bloody Monday is quite good (dunno what the original material is, but i've read the manga) tokyo love story |
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Jan 18, 2013 4:48 AM
#27
This thread was - once - relevant to my interests. I went through a stage where I hunted down JP live-action adaptations; a number of which people aren't aware of in high numbers, such as Touch's. Here's an unfinished but detailed(ish) blog post I made: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=88890 Here's a list on IMDB I haven't bothered with in AGES: http://www.imdb.com/list/uMFKcwJoNb0/ |
Jan 18, 2013 5:11 AM
#28
No, it loses the "anime" feel and some expressions and CG effects are awful |
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Jan 18, 2013 5:35 AM
#29
Never watched any, I'm avoiding them. |
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Jan 18, 2013 10:18 AM
#30
I asked because the xxxholic live action makes me worried and i notice alot of live action based on anime is seen as horrible |
Jan 18, 2013 10:52 AM
#31
im4eversmart said: No, it loses the "anime" feel and some expressions and CG effects are awful This is why I avidly avoid them even if its a Japanese one. |
Jan 18, 2013 12:01 PM
#32
Lindle said: Ahri said: Ehhh I think is something people should stay away from... Unless you know what you're doing and have a pretty hefty budget (IE Transformers). I wouldn't mind seeing a live action of an anime that was really low budget.... To the point where you could tell....Like Death Note. >death note >low budget Did we watch the same anime? Unless you just worded that badly and you meant the movie was low-budget. That's what I meant lol. Give the green light to a hollywood producer and they could make the shinigami look real and not like uhhhh.... well in the movie... |
Jan 18, 2013 12:29 PM
#34
im4eversmart said: No, it loses the "anime" feel and some expressions and CG effects are awful It stops being anime just because of the technical differences between anime and live action. The "feel" of it has to do with the story, characters, directing, acting, music, and various other things that have to do with execution. And if you are only watching anime because it's animated then of course the anime "feel" will be completely lost in a live action movie. And I don't really know what the issue with CG is since CG as a tool has been implemented in almost every visual medium I can think of and the quality of the CG varies, just like everything. The question itself, "Can live action movies work based on anime?" it so damned obvious it hurts. Yes, Live action can work for anime. This doesn't mean that live action works for anime all the time or that you will like any specific live action version of any random anime out there. It can work and the fact that live action renditions keep being made it kind of proves that on some level, for some people, it does work. |
Jan 18, 2013 6:50 PM
#35
Anime_Name said: im4eversmart said: No, it loses the "anime" feel and some expressions and CG effects are awful It stops being anime just because of the technical differences between anime and live action. The "feel" of it has to do with the story, characters, directing, acting, music, and various other things that have to do with execution. And if you are only watching anime because it's animated then of course the anime "feel" will be completely lost in a live action movie. And I don't really know what the issue with CG is since CG as a tool has been implemented in almost every visual medium I can think of and the quality of the CG varies, just like everything. The question itself, "Can live action movies work based on anime?" it so damned obvious it hurts. Yes, Live action can work for anime. This doesn't mean that live action works for anime all the time or that you will like any specific live action version of any random anime out there. It can work and the fact that live action renditions keep being made it kind of proves that on some level, for some people, it does work. i ask because i am looking for a live action that is almost universal accepted as good not excellent but good and almost universal as in 85- 90 % of consumers like also people keep making live action out of popular anime, sometimes in goes wrong and they keep trying thats why so many are made trial and error |
Jan 18, 2013 6:59 PM
#36
juken16 said: Anime_Name said: im4eversmart said: No, it loses the "anime" feel and some expressions and CG effects are awful It stops being anime just because of the technical differences between anime and live action. The "feel" of it has to do with the story, characters, directing, acting, music, and various other things that have to do with execution. And if you are only watching anime because it's animated then of course the anime "feel" will be completely lost in a live action movie. And I don't really know what the issue with CG is since CG as a tool has been implemented in almost every visual medium I can think of and the quality of the CG varies, just like everything. The question itself, "Can live action movies work based on anime?" it so damned obvious it hurts. Yes, Live action can work for anime. This doesn't mean that live action works for anime all the time or that you will like any specific live action version of any random anime out there. It can work and the fact that live action renditions keep being made it kind of proves that on some level, for some people, it does work. i ask because i am looking for a live action that is almost universal accepted as good not excellent but good and almost universal as in 85- 90 % of consumers like also people keep making live action out of popular anime, sometimes in goes wrong and they keep trying thats why so many are made trial and error id go for tokyo love story voted by in tope five of best Dorama of all time my aoyagi readers based on a manga |
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Jan 18, 2013 9:39 PM
#37
juken16 said: i ask because i am looking for a live action that is almost universal accepted as good not excellent but good and almost universal as in 85- 90 % of consumers like Sorry but life isn't that easy and 51% is good enough for majority and to be considered a success. Why not just look for something you like and not rely so much on the opinion of others. also people keep making live action out of popular anime, sometimes in goes wrong and they keep trying that why so many are made trial and error Businesses keep making live action adaptations because of the successes or in other words the times those live action adaptations work. And apparently I have to be the one to tell that the deciding factor about what works or not is how much money the adaptations makes because money made is function of the number of fans that purchased it and goes beyond your personal opinion of liking anything or not. Consensus is a bitch when you're in the minority or worse yet the out-group. id go for tokyo love story voted by in tope five of best Dorama of all time my aoyagi readers based on a manga Your "source" doesn't represent much considering that there are other polls done by bigger companies with better sampling procedures that are more in touch the today's fan as a whole. Hell, bringing up a list that isn't about Jdrama's based on anime/manga seems completely stupid in this topic. Or maybe self-serving considering your topic about those dramas is pretty much dead. |
Anime_NameJan 18, 2013 9:48 PM
Jan 18, 2013 9:42 PM
#38
Peten00b said: Never watched any, I'm avoiding them. |
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Jan 20, 2013 7:26 PM
#39
Some work and some don't. Mostly shoujo anime/manga work really well. |
Jan 20, 2013 8:52 PM
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Jan 20, 2013 8:58 PM
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Jan 20, 2013 9:55 PM
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Jan 20, 2013 9:59 PM
#43
live action witch are good to great 20 century boys azumi Lone wolf and cub GTO Kamen rider Tokyo love story |
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Jan 21, 2013 1:11 AM
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Jan 21, 2013 7:20 AM
#45
Guys.... Nodame Cantabile Rurouni Kenshin nuff said, these 2 are proof that live adaptations can turn out extremely well. As good as the Nodame anime is the live action is *almost* better. The only reason I wouldn't rate it higher is because the anime Nodame is a truly perfect character in every sense. Damn I miss that girl... |
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Jan 21, 2013 7:57 AM
#46
LayedBack said: Guys.... Nodame Cantabile Rurouni Kenshin nuff said, these 2 are proof that live adaptations can turn out extremely well. As good as the Nodame anime is the live action is *almost* better. The only reason I wouldn't rate it higher is because the anime Nodame is a truly perfect character in every sense. Damn I miss that girl... me too :( |
Jan 21, 2013 8:16 AM
#47
What? I personally loved the Death Note adaption. They took most of the Mello/Near stuff out. |
Jan 21, 2013 8:23 AM
#48
itsvero said: What? I personally loved the Death Note adaption. They took most of the Mello/Near stuff out. If it had been the other way around, and the Mello/Near stuff was in the movie and manga, but not the anime, people would be whining about how the anime sucks. |
Jan 21, 2013 8:55 AM
#49
My experience is, the Great Teacher Onizuka and Death Note movies were O.K. But the animes were way better, probably because you can do so much more in animes, real life has it's limits, after all. |
Jan 26, 2013 6:51 AM
#50
yhunata said: DrunkenBlowfish said: The only one I can think of that worked was BR, but that was a movie before a manga. Wait, wasn't the movie an adaption of the manga? EDIT: You forgot Crows Zero, a live action adaption of the manga Crows. A book actually. The manga was made later. |
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