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Jan 11, 2013 1:56 AM
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Ferras said:
New Makishima's toys have appeared

anyone remember this?


and also the image "JReitan" posted here

Definitely, this wasn't a random episode

I dislike the ending a lot. Not my taste of music and there's a lot of unnecessary fan service. Makishima does exercise? what a joke!! he almost looks like Kogami -_-


PS: People really liked abnormalize?? from ep 1 to 11 there were more people posting bad things about it. I was not expecting that XDXD



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Jan 11, 2013 1:58 AM
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Also, anyone else think yayoi is giving off a yuri-vibe? Is she lesbo?

As far as I can recall they implied it already earlier on.. But with Shion and her.
Not sure if she really is lesbian though


even if we call he r yuri-poi and such it's not that kind of love it remind me of NANA , two girl love stand beside each other on stage.
 
Jan 11, 2013 2:02 AM
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KamiKali said:
Ferras said:
New Makishima's toys have appeared



I dislike the ending a lot. Not my taste of music and there's a lot of unnecessary fan service. Makishima does exercise? what a joke!! he almost looks like Kogami -_-




Damm i hate comments like this....... B . S

At least they tried to relate the song to the anime especially if you read the subs for op and ed....

Its not just about dammm FANSERVICES

i a agre with you , I think nobody undertand the meaning behind naked (trueself) everyone and distortion of dominator cycle around Ayane well I which Mkishima turns Ayane into his Harley quin since shogo is Mr J
 
Jan 11, 2013 2:05 AM
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I think Flash back ep will continue until Sasayma slaugther
 
Jan 11, 2013 2:30 AM

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It was already heavily implied that she has sex with shion (the blonde).

where did it imply?


I think ti was episode 3 or something, somone came in and i think the blonde one pulled her pants up, cant remember fully though. but it was implied.

Thanks! I found it, its in ep 2.


Also episode 6 around 8:30
 
Jan 11, 2013 4:03 AM

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Yayoi's back story is great and all, but can we please get back to the deranged hunk that's running free because Sibyl can't judge him.
 
Jan 11, 2013 4:52 AM

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This episode was so-so. I was a bit bored by it but I can't call it bad either, getting some background for the characters is always a good thing :) I just want to see Akane and know how she gets over the events of episode 11 so badly that I can't really appreciate this episode T.T

And we once again saw a new fault in the oh-so-great Dominator. You can't even target criminals who you're aiming at if there's someone even slightly blocking the view. That guy could've been so easy to take out with normal more convenient weaponry.

Nooo what did you do to my favorite opening? D: Give it back! T.T And the good ED changed into a bad one too =(
 
Jan 11, 2013 5:06 AM
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no they removed abnormalize ;( this episode felt a bit out of place, still good though.
 
Jan 11, 2013 5:48 AM

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People are acting like 5 year old that want to skip dinner and get straight to the candy with all their wishing to just see the bad guy and stuff.

This was a good episode, and it gave us more inside into the Sybil system and the frustrations of life in it. People also should realize that the major plot of this anime is that system in-itself and life around it and not simply the fight with some bad guy.

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All this is quite possible in the flaws of the system and essentially the creator can be centered over a interesting plot. The Nazis who escaped got families and now one of them made them machine. It’s possible this is just a wild theory but one from IRL that can be taken from mucho conspiracies revolving around it on the NET. So I am going to leave all this as the Creator is some ex bad guy that made the system not being able to recognize his types. New theory if you will.


I don't think it's like that. Sybil isn't some evil intended system, it's just that it fails at realizing the complexities of human nature. For example it can translate stress etc as dangerous even when it's not exactly like that. It seem to fail to comprehend or underestimates the ability of the human mind over impulses or stress.
Is like a mind reader that can see your crazy thoughts but can't comprehend your ability to ignore them or not take them seriously.
A system like that could have work amazingly well as a helper but unfortunately many humans tend to like absolutes. It's easier for them because they can stop having to wonder and tiring their minds so they made it like a God instead of just a non absolute helping tool. And the more times the system was correct the more they thought of it as flawless and made it into absolute ruler. Such system is dangerous exactly because it isn't completely evil and it can be right most of the times.
Because of that the lives of those getting unfair judgment got at first ignored and then just disappeared under the assumption that the system can't be wrong.
Basically is like having a lie detector as an absolute. We know it's most of the times right but we know that it can be wrong too. But if we had it as an absolute we wouldn't even accept the possibility of it being wrong. a lie detector isn't an evil device it's just a system.
As they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
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^ Exactly. And it is not perfect because we humans are not perfect. Only perfection can create perfection, be it human being or a system.
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Jan 11, 2013 6:45 AM
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The only question that left me wandering from the beginning of this episode (since I've heard talks about how Yayoi was gonna be the center of focus in this week's episode, earlier this morning here, before I myself even had the chance to watch it) was:

how exactly did Yayoi ended up being a latent criminal..?

On a side note, I rather did try to like the new ending (also by Egoist), BUT, when she started hitting on those high notes, I was like: meh. that's a "3/5 stars" reaction, btw. Personally, I preferred Namae no kaibutsu best.

Anynways, I'm SO looking forward to the next episode!!! :-D))
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Jan 11, 2013 7:16 AM

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I enjoyed seeing yayoi's backstory, especially how they talked about artists having the potential of becoming latent criminals if they get too involved in their work. What I really couldn't bring my self to fully enjoy though was the new beginning song, at least in comparison to the previous one which I felt was perfect for the series. I do hope that they get back to the main story line next week though.
 
Jan 11, 2013 7:46 AM

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Monad said:
Yumekichi11 said:

All this is quite possible in the flaws of the system and essentially the creator can be centered over a interesting plot. The Nazis who escaped got families and now one of them made them machine. It’s possible this is just a wild theory but one from IRL that can be taken from mucho conspiracies revolving around it on the NET. So I am going to leave all this as the Creator is some ex bad guy that made the system not being able to recognize his types. New theory if you will.


I don't think it's like that. Sybil isn't some evil intended system, it's just that it fails at realizing the complexities of human nature. For example it can translate stress etc as dangerous even when it's not exactly like that. It seem to fail to comprehend or underestimates the ability of the human mind over impulses or stress.
Is like a mind reader that can see your crazy thoughts but can't comprehend your ability to ignore them or not take them seriously.
A system like that could have work amazingly well as a helper but unfortunately many humans tend to like absolutes. It's easier for them because they can stop having to wonder and tiring their minds so they made it like a God instead of just a non absolute helping tool. And the more times the system was correct the more they thought of it as flawless and made it into absolute ruler. Such system is dangerous exactly because it isn't completely evil and it can be right most of the times.
Because of that the lives of those getting unfair judgment got at first ignored and then just disappeared under the assumption that the system can't be wrong.
Basically is like having a lie detector as an absolute. We know it's most of the times right but we know that it can be wrong too. But if we had it as an absolute we wouldn't even accept the possibility of it being wrong. a lie detector isn't an evil device it's just a system.
As they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
But that's the thing, if the one or ones created this system as a absolute to hide behind and do whatever they want cause they know how it works, would it be the most convenient for them? You just proved it that it is. By making something absolute and like that, you can do anything you want behind its back if you know the flaws of the absolute machine.
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^ Exactly. And it is not perfect because we humans are not perfect. Only perfection can create perfection, be it human being or a system.
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Jan 11, 2013 8:03 AM

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OMG they all had an orgy at the end !

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Jan 11, 2013 8:35 AM

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Wow, this new OP is bad. Abnormalize was perfect. The new ED is OK, I mean it's still Egoist.
Where is my Akane?
 
Jan 11, 2013 8:41 AM

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yeah, abnormalize totally kicked this new fail engrish OPs ass... but the new ED is hella nice

at first, i was kinda meh on this ep just being another backstory ep. but shit got really good, really fast.
now i actually hope they continue and wrap up this story next week, i still wanna get back to the present with akane's situation

and sasayama was pretty beast, sucks that hes dead now

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Before talking about the episode itself, first a few thoughts on the new OP and ED. The former sucks while the latter is a pleasure to listen to (something I actually expected; the ED being better, that is).
Now, this week's PP was interesting. Not all shows focus on *every* character's background so seeing this one do it is nice. But rather than Yayoi's past I was more intrigued by Rina's message concerning the Sybil System. It is a fucked up system in my eyes and eventually it will spell doom for humanity if they stick with it. I, too, would rather devote myself to 'unauthorized' music than accept that nonsense. I'm looking forward to seeing Rina again; which is bound to happen.
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Jan 11, 2013 9:48 AM

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dayumm those were some nice abs and pecs in that new ending there. although i have to agree, the new op and ed songs suck compared to the old ones. i liked learning about yayoi. virtually nothing has been said about her up until this point and she actually seems like a decent person instead of a stone cold bitch like they were making her out to be. i like the anarchy theme and comparing sybil to a fascist system. all very interesting. i love anime that digest the nature of humanity.
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Jan 11, 2013 9:53 AM

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Very solid backstory episode.

New OP and ED are pretty cool, but I still prefer the previous ones.
 
Jan 11, 2013 10:09 AM
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yeah, abnormalize totally kicked this new fail engrish OPs ass...


Wow, engrish with very good u.s. accent so you can actually, you know, understand the words? That's engrish?!?! Fuck it then XD

Anyway the new OP is great and much better than the first one, I always had to skip it.
ED... whatever
 
Jan 11, 2013 10:20 AM

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This episode wasn´t bad, but they should have either showed Yayoi´s backstory earlier or not bothered with it in the first place. Trying to suddenly characterize a character who hasn´t had feelings for 12 episodes at this point is like trying to come up with an excuse, or just to say "Look at us! All our characters can get character depth. Aren´t we great?"
I would have preferred her to have a few minutes of every episode for herself instead of doing an entire episode all about her.

To me, the most important part about this episode was that they revealed something that could turn out to be an important fact: There actually are people who are trying to fight the Sybil system. Not everyone is just sitting around, complaining or simply accepting it.
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Jan 11, 2013 10:46 AM

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Ok, abnormalize was over the top but I liked the new OP, and I'm the only one here, I think.
 
Jan 11, 2013 11:23 AM

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Not the greatest episode but i can see why it was a needed one, aside from character back story via flashback it also brings into light the problems of the system which was already being heavily questioned based on the fact that they couldn't kill the guy last time.
 
Jan 11, 2013 12:05 PM
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It was cool to get some background on the characters and after the break was as good a time as any.

Real solid anime this. Good characters and good writing.

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Jan 11, 2013 12:12 PM

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I'm okay with new OP and ED, liked previous ones much more though, both in terms of visual sequence and songs. I feel that Abnormalize was much more distinctive :D

As for the episode, it was good. I'm sort of glad they decided to postpone with current story and instead gave us some further insight on Sybil and rehab system. Rehab system was the highlight of the episode for me. I mean, a mental institution with classical music, white walls and sleeping gas? Pretty messed up. Even more so, when Kogami mentions that it's next to impossible to emerge from there with a stable set of mind. Just further proves that sybil system is a sugarcoated atrocity. So in a sense that there's a possibility of Akane getting her Hue clouded and maybe undergoing a treatment program, this was sort of relevant to show.
 
Jan 11, 2013 12:27 PM

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Now, that's how you do a Character Development episode, the only bad thing is that it came out of nowhere, specially after last ep but the episode itself was great, I liked that they showed the guy that died, quite a crazy guy indeed.

Btw, why did they have to change OP/ED, the old ones were great, now I'll have to skip them.
 
Jan 11, 2013 2:03 PM
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Bring back Abnormalize lol, it suits Pyschopass perfectly unlike the new one
 
Jan 11, 2013 2:28 PM

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Ok, abnormalize was over the top but I liked the new OP, and I'm the only one here, I think.


I like it too, more than abnormalize actually.
 
Jan 11, 2013 4:22 PM

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srsly, how can you show a cliffhanger, disappear for a few weeks and then re-appear with a character development episode? the episode itself was great executed imo, but i think we all were expecting more.

anyways, it's was nice to know a little bit more about Yayoi and to see how was the inspector life for Kogami (also i know everyone has said this but, the dead guy looks like a complete ass)
 
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I dont think we've seen this much of Yayoi this entire season. Kinda odd giving her an entire episode of backstory after such a huge development during the last episode.

I still enjoyed it, just the time of it was really odd.
 
Jan 11, 2013 4:54 PM

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any Development is better than none just the timing on it was weird ,like the Op and Ed not better then the last ones but still good.
 
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srsly, how can you show a cliffhanger, disappear for a few weeks and then re-appear with a character development episode? the episode itself was great executed imo, but i think we all were expecting more.

anyways, it's was nice to know a little bit more about Yayoi and to see how was the inspector life for Kogami (also i know everyone has said this but, the dead guy looks like a complete ass)


I liked the episode and it did seem out of place, but we may well have been introduced to a new future villain, so i think this episode is more important than people think :D i like yayoi now, uses the same strings as me :D except i use the new cobalts :D
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Jan 11, 2013 6:33 PM

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This episode was good but I was expecting a continuation of the last episode since it was such a cliff hanger, I'm guessing Mina will show up in the next few episodes and Yayoi will stop her, Like most other people (Judging from the comments) I also like the old opening better then the new one, But the new one is still good just not perfect like Abnormalize And the endings were about the same. I'm glad that i recorded the old opening and ending :P

Can't wait for next week
 
Jan 11, 2013 7:15 PM

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I like backstory episodes, it adds depth to the show. It showed that Kogami was still a bit of an A-hole even when he was an inspector, Ginzo was...the same idiot which shouldn't surprise me.

I wonder if Rina will re-emerge.

I think why the show was rated lower was simple...we want the main story back!!!
 
Jan 11, 2013 7:29 PM

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Yay a Kunizuka episode! And some Sasayama. Now just waiting on some character development for Shuusei and Masaoka >:3 I agree that this would have been better early on rather than after the previous cliffhanger, but oh well.

And the Sibyl system has some problems with the arts in general, eh. That's depressing, but not really surprising.
 
Jan 11, 2013 9:32 PM

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Hurray Yayoi backstory.
 
Jan 11, 2013 10:17 PM

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Good new OP. ED is good too except for the visuals~ but I might get used to it and start to like it later.

Enjoyed the whole episode as a whole :D
 
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Good new OP. ED is good too except for the visuals~ but I might get used to it and start to like it later.

Enjoyed the whole episode as a whole :D
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delicious clean no credits Akane is delicious.

One thing though, WTF at her chest size. I though she was DFC or not that much. Oh well too bad.

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Yumekichi11 said:
HauntingShock said:
Good new OP. ED is good too except for the visuals~ but I might get used to it and start to like it later.

Enjoyed the whole episode as a whole :D
Well you can't go wrong with the spoiler
delicious clean no credits Akane is delicious.

One thing though, WTF at her chest size. I though she was DFC or not that much. Oh well too bad.

No, I have no interest in her in 'that' way :P Not my type~
 
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Good to finally have it back. I enjoyed the little back-story. I wonder how this will tie into the overall story?
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Jan 12, 2013 2:17 AM

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pointless filler episode
 
Jan 12, 2013 2:58 AM

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HauntingShock said:
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HauntingShock said:
Good new OP. ED is good too except for the visuals~ but I might get used to it and start to like it later.

Enjoyed the whole episode as a whole :D
Well you can't go wrong with the spoiler
delicious clean no credits Akane is delicious.

One thing though, WTF at her chest size. I though she was DFC or not that much. Oh well too bad.

No, I have no interest in her in 'that' way :P Not my type~
Oh well, I find her attractive personally but Yayoi got more attractive after this episode. Chest revealing wise.

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The episode was good, but kind of like hitting a wall when you're running at full speed.
I was really excited after 11, and they didn't even give us a hint towards what happened next so that kind of dulled me a bit. Like they put us to wait anxiously for two weeks and now they don't even show us what happened next. It's frustrating.

Still I enjoyed it. Nice to learn more about Yayoi and her reason for becoming an enforcer. Never would have expected something like passion for music would make your hue darken. And it was kind of sad how she parted with her friend.
I wonder if the next episode will be about Shuu? Probably not, since he said he joined after Kogami went bad. It would have been nice to see a bit more about Tomomi, I really like that old man.
I liked meeting Sasayama, pity he died.

Ginoza's hair: Oh My God
I mean, his hair is ridiculous even now but... I pity him. I seriously pity him from the bottom of my heart. So much I can't hate him anymore.
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Jan 12, 2013 5:40 AM

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pointless filler episode


It's not really pointless though.It gives Yayoi's past and the system being flawed for more reasons
 
Jan 12, 2013 5:46 AM

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Well, this was a nice episode, but it seemed a bit out of place. I liked the OP, both the song and the visuals, but I liked the first one better (it was more unusual). Liked the ED song, can't really judge the visuals yet, as we only have had them for a few seconds. We'll see what they'll show us next time. It was nice to see Yayoi's past and I really liked Sasayama's character, he's a badass bastard, just like Kogami described him.

Well, to those who wonder what the next episode is going to be... According to spoilers...
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While I expected to see more after that awesome last episode, I really liked this one; one thing I think PP lacks is proper characters' backgrounds, and finally we saw more from Yayoi, with well executed flashbacks. Plus I got the feeeling it wasn't all just "background" and Rina will show up later ...(considering even ep 3 and 4 cases had a part in the main plot)

I hope we get to see some more also from Shuu, the old man and the hot doc.

New OP is definitely a step back; don't like the song and neither the visuals.
ED song is good but not "Namae no nai kaibutsu" level. And lol @everyone's naked
 
Jan 12, 2013 6:12 AM

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I was a little disappointed that Episode 12 didn't continue from where Ep 11 left off but I'm thankful that they told Yayoi's story. After watching this episode I re-watched the episodes before and had a deeper appreciation of her personality. It makes sense now why she was the one who comforted that girl who lost her friend.

I'm impressed that Yayoi, despite being labeled as a latent criminal by Sybil (prolly) because she was too passionate about her art, still chose to be an Enforcer. I kind of expected her to take Rina's side..?

I'm really looking forward to a flashback about Shuu! :D
 
Jan 12, 2013 7:03 AM

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Well, sh*t. Though i really wanna see what happened to Akane, i also wanted to see Sasa-chan and his death.
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Jan 12, 2013 8:24 AM

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Meh, boring.And the old op/ed were definitely better.
 
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