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Jan 4, 2013 1:40 AM

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Very solid adaption, a lot of dialogue was cut particularly the opening conversation but then again this is to be expected, heck the opening conversation felt like it could have been two episodes on the Tsukihi portion alone so cuts were obvious, they left out a few details but nothing worth nitpicking about, my only disappointment if you could even call it that is that they didn't animated Kizumonogatari first, i read the novel so i understood the references as well as the details concerning Shinobu but for those who didn't they are kinda missing out until Kizumonogatari finally gets its adaption, i wonder why its being pushed back when it was announced a while ago. Well regardless it was a very solid adaption and a enjoyable one, when reading Neko i got the same feeling that the anime gave me and that was that this entire sequence of events was crucial to explain how Araragi ends up with Senjougahara, because if one just went from Kizu to Bake and skipped Neko people would call BS on the transition considering the implications Kizu gave concerning Hanekawa, thus the purpose of Neko, well one of them anyway. Look forward to the future adaptions, anybody have any clue on which they are animating next?
 
Jan 4, 2013 2:10 AM

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oh wow! Shinobu talks again!! the moment you know when she talks, something awesome is gonna happen! ^^

So after that will be the beginning of Bake huh? I wonder what's the new season they reveal after the credits. Ah... I miss all the other characters :3
 
Jan 4, 2013 4:13 AM

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Koyomi makes his feelings clear in Neko: Shiro.

 
Jan 4, 2013 5:37 AM

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9/10, I liked this very much just as expected ^^ Better than Bakemonogatari but worse than Nisemonogatari. Nekomonogatari Kuro was the only one of the novels that I hadn't read so I didn't have anything to expect. I liked how the things turned out with Hanekawa, Shinobu showing up to finish off sawari neko was awesome. Shinobu showing up is always awesome! xD
Only Koyomi can say this line and make it seem so badass xD


Now I'll be looking forward to the best of all, Kizumonogatari :3
 
Jan 4, 2013 5:52 AM

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Considering that most people in this thread has already watched the 2 previous series, ranting about too much fan service makes zero sense(even the scenes are based on the original novel, so lolwut).

Anyway, Nekomonogatari Kuro anime was really good, even better than the novel which had much crap and less pun/humour in both neko kuro/shiro. Another reason is that Nisemonogatari anime sucked TOO hard, so I find this one far more enjoyable.

I'm looking forward to Otorimonogatari and Koimonogatari(this one is the best in the whole series) visualized, the rest episodes of 2nd season is just not that great.
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Jan 4, 2013 6:08 AM

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Oh common oshino we all know that you name her black hanekawa because of her underwear.

but, overall not as good as bake and nise. but it's still good.
tuturu~!! (≧◡≦)
 
Jan 4, 2013 6:47 AM
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Koyomi says that his love for Hanekawa is deeper than romantic love. Araragi basically started going out with Hitagi because she asked him out first...sure it cheapens the romance a little, but honestly, if it had been any other girl, he would've probably gone out with them too. He is love with Hitagi because he gradually grew into his feelings for her. But she is not necessarily the most "important" woman in his life, if that makes any sense? That honor most likely is most likely shared by Kisshot and Hanekawa.


Eh, well you can have a very deep love for someone that isn't romantic, it's just that it usually takes the form of a romantic love. When it comes down to it, it's more about if you actively show favor to one person over the other. For example: He says multiple times throughout the entire monogatari series that he would die for Hanekawa, but at the end of Bakemonogatari he doesn't because he thinks of Hitagi. Who he also is ready to die for, given his fight with Suruga.

Really it is a three way tie between Shinobu, Hitagi and hanekawa in my view haha. As for the whole Hitagi relationship thing...he has some degree of interest in her which develops into a strong love. If anything, it's one of the more realistic relationships I've seen xD Staplers and all.

But I enjoyed this series of OVA's and as usual they did the books justice for the most part. I agree that it would have been nice to see Kizumonogatari done first, but I suppose we'll have to wait. I am even more excited to see Nekomonogatari:Shiro now :)
 
Jan 4, 2013 7:03 AM

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The moral of the story is quite interesting, and in a way very Japanese. You're stuck in your shitty circumstances, and neither magic nor a knight in shining armour will ever come to save you. Eventually, you have to solve your own problems.

In any case, it was interesting. Better than Nise but not quite as good as Bake. 7/10.
 
Jan 4, 2013 7:04 AM
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Great episode , enjoyed it at full xD 9/10
 
Jan 4, 2013 7:57 AM
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That was quite a ride and I enjoyed every second of it. Reserving officially scoring until subs but for now 9/10

Shinobu saving the day was freaking sick and that OST was outstanding throughout the whole show.


Damm shaft take my money......
The monogatari series never fail to impress me
Ill better wait for BD for monogatari second season
and Kizumonogatari even if its 2015!!!!!!!!!!!! or late 2014 -------____------

More like Aniplex take your money. Take all your money, rape you in the ass with a spiked bat and then ask for more money
 
Jan 4, 2013 8:42 AM

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I just watched the batch release of Nekomonogatari: Kuro and it was just awesome, reminded me of how much I missed intelligent dialogue and the humour of the Monogatari series with the SHAFT flare to boot.

Hanekawa in underwear is awesome, the subtle incest portrayed in the first quarter of this mini-series was hilarious, Araragi is going to fall into the depths of hell eventually with his antics.

I think the reason Araragi proclaims that he will never say "I love you" to Hanekawa is because he respects her too much and that he feels he is not good enough for her. I understand the logic since she helped him a lot during the Spring Vacation when he was having Vampire problems and despite falling in love for her, he won't tell her but instead live a life of where he is constantly and eternally grateful for her to the point of willing to sacrifice his life for her.

Darn I like almost all the girls in the Monogatari series and I can't choose who to ship with Araragi. ;)

I wonder what "Nekomonogatari: Shirou" will be about, obviously the reappearance of the White Neko inside Hanekawa.

The ending credits make me hopeful that SHAFT might actually animate all the novels of the Monogatari series, I mean they're planning to release Kizumonogatari as a animated movie and so once that's done, SHAFT would have animated 6 volumes of the novels, there's over 15 volumes for that series, well, 15 confirmed volumes but they're could be 1 or 2 more than that since the Monogatari series is still ongoing.

Anyways, my rating for Nekomonogatari: Kuro is a 10/10, the next arc after Kizumonogatari is released is of course Nekomonogatari: Shirou, hopefully that's what SHAFT does next. ;)
 
Jan 4, 2013 9:11 AM

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I enjoyed the series, though I would have enjoyed it more if it actually was on a character I liked i.e (Shinobu, hitagi, actually you know what any other char as I like pretty much like all the rest). Meme pretty much explains all the reasons why I just dont like Hanekawa and I frankly never really cared for her character or ever sympathised with her.
 
Jan 4, 2013 9:32 AM

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10/10. im still speechless how genius the writer of this series is.

Special thanks to Gabu for this amazing avatar & sig set!!
 
Jan 4, 2013 11:54 AM
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Man, that's one very long Katana to handle even for a samurai.
 
Jan 4, 2013 11:59 AM

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I'm sorry but am I the only one that finds that the dialogue sounds like it was written by a total amateur that just sat down and wrote whatever he felt would be easiest to write. The redundant and pedantic nature of the dialogue and the overall prose used is just wretchedly bad at times. It's the kind of thing I'd expect a literature prof to use to illustrate exactly how not to write dialogue. Some examples:

"A Hanekawa-like -- Hanekawa.

Nothing unlike her about her.

No.

Not even once had Hanekawa ever been something other than Hanekawa.

Not even when she was unlike Hanekawa.

Not even when she didn't resemble at all Hanekawa.

Never."


What is that even supposed to mean?

I took back my previous remark -- damn.

I couldn't speak in monotone, I yelled sharply, in a scream.

I was not able to not put emotions into it.

I was not able not to succumb to my violent emotion.

I was not able not to confess to Hanekawa."


This can be cut down significantly to something like, "I was too astonished to say what I wanted to her" or something of the like unless Isin was just trying to fulfill a word/page quota which I'm starting to suspect he was. This is the sort of stuff that gets marks taken off in creative writing classes and the note, "redundant" next to it.

"Don't use a cat as a reason.

Don't use a kaii as a pretext.

Don't use a monster as a chance.

Don't use unhappiness as a drive to grow up.

Even if you did -- in the end, that would be like scratching at yourself.

The kaii -- is actually not there, you know?"


Again just starting every sentence with the same preposition is generally frowned upon not to mention that the dialogue itself comes across as largely meaningless.

"Just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, nyaaaaaaaaaa!


I don't even think I need to say anything here. In the LN itself this goes on for 3 times as long as what I just posted. Having a little trouble coming up with content there Isin?
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Jan 4, 2013 12:02 PM

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^ Nobody cares
 
Jan 4, 2013 12:07 PM

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^ Nobody cares


Yeah I've sort of noticed that sadly enough. It speaks volumes for why this sort of thing was ever allowed to become popular or be considered well written or even genius in any capacity. Just looks like flat out denial to me personally.
 
Jan 4, 2013 12:08 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Edefrem said:
^ Nobody cares


Yeah I've sort of noticed that sadly enough. It speaks volumes for why this sort of thing was ever allowed to become popular or be considered well written or even genius in any capacity. Just looks like flat out denial to me personally.
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Jan 4, 2013 12:23 PM
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I'm sorry but am I the only one that finds that the dialogue sounds like it was written by a total amateur that just sat down and wrote whatever he felt would be easiest to write. The redundant and pedantic nature of the dialogue and the overall prose used is just wretchedly bad at times. It's the kind of thing I'd expect a literature prof to use to illustrate exactly how not to write dialogue.

funny
considering the pretentious words you use

and this is the 3rd -monogatari series
i just wanna know
why
in
the
hell
are you still watching
if it's so "REDUNDANT" and "PEDANTIC" for you?
that was a rhetoric question btw
I don't give a fuck
 
Jan 4, 2013 12:30 PM

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Mmmm I'm just loving the irrational frothing anger as a response. Seriously thank you folks and please keep it coming, it's just speaking volumes as to the type of person this show appeals to (at least the type of person that would call it "genius") and only serves to vindicate me all the more.

As for why I watched it even though obviously nobody cares and they just want this thread to be one big circle jerk to the show.... slow week and nothing else to do while waiting for the actual Winter season to start so I just popped it on and let it do it's thing. I didn't expect it to actually be that horribly written.
 
Jan 4, 2013 1:14 PM

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You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature?
Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego?
 
Jan 4, 2013 1:26 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Mmmm I'm just loving the irrational frothing anger as a response. Seriously thank you folks and please keep it coming, it's just speaking volumes as to the type of person this show appeals to (at least the type of person that would call it "genius") and only serves to vindicate me all the more.

As for why I watched it even though obviously nobody cares and they just want this thread to be one big circle jerk to the show.... slow week and nothing else to do while waiting for the actual Winter season to start so I just popped it on and let it do it's thing. I didn't expect it to actually be that horribly written.


too each his own
 
Jan 4, 2013 1:27 PM

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You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature?
Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego?


Honestly no, but if people just want to rage at me I might as well be accommodating since it really doesn't bother me. Like so damn mad people...so damn mad. :/

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too each his own


Yeah basically. For the record I'm not trying to insult everyone's tastes here aside from the ones that are losing their shit over my comments cause it's hilarious to me to see them freak the fuck out. I honestly don't really care if people find this genius or not cause not everybody has the same standards for dialogue and writing. I just happen to disagree quite vehemently and think it's largely nonsense about terrible characters who I didn't care for one bit by the end. Meh....
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
mugimugi said:
You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature?
Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego?


Honestly no, but if people just want to rage at me I might as well be accommodating since it really doesn't bother me. Like so damn mad people...so damn mad. :/

D3ad_Fantasy said:


too each his own


Yeah basically.


have a nice day then chap :)

edit: btw as for the repetitive part, Alliteration is seen quite a bit in literature and poetry. If certain words were meant to drive home to the viewer then reiterating them 1000x generally does the job. Some don't like it, others need it to help amplify a message that is being brought forth. I am ofc part of the latter. Sad you didn't like the Monogatari Series cause a lot of what you had on your list was surprisingly similar to what i enjoy as well :(
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edit: btw as for the repetitive part, Alliteration is seen quite a bit in literature and poetry. If certain words were meant to drive home to the viewer then reiterating them 1000x generally does the job. Some don't like it, others need it to help amplify a message that is being brought forth. I am ofc part of the latter. Sad you didn't like the Monogatari Series cause a lot of what you had on your list was surprisingly similar to what i enjoy as well :(


Alright doing what I usually do with MAL and just replying to the person not acting like manchild. Yeah you know what, I have quite a few friends who have very similar tastes to me yet we disagree quite vehemently about the Monogatari series. However we do seem to agree that this particular entry had particularly poorly written dialogue that made it hard to really care about what was going on. It's called respecting one another's positions even though we argue about it a lot and not being obnoxious to one another just because we don't happen to see 100% eye to eye on the matter. I believe it's called being mature.....
 
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So... the cat that posesses Hanekawa in Bakemono is another one than this one, right? The storie does kind of end the same way as this one does (Shinobu being the awesome vampire she is) but it's a different cat even though the circumstances are kind of the same, right? :O
 
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"To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.--Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd."

If brevity is the soul of wit then why spend nearly an entire paragraph to essentially convey the sentence "If life is full of misery then is it really worth living? Are we just afraid of death?"
 
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Great final episode in this short chapter! Really nice story in general and quite a nice ending! 8/10

Can't wait for Kizumonogatari!
 
Jan 4, 2013 1:46 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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edit: btw as for the repetitive part, Alliteration is seen quite a bit in literature and poetry. If certain words were meant to drive home to the viewer then reiterating them 1000x generally does the job. Some don't like it, others need it to help amplify a message that is being brought forth. I am ofc part of the latter. Sad you didn't like the Monogatari Series cause a lot of what you had on your list was surprisingly similar to what i enjoy as well :(


Alright doing what I usually do with MAL and just replying to the person not acting like manchild. Yeah you know what, I have quite a few friends who have very similar tastes to me yet we disagree quite vehemently about the Monogatari series. However we do seem to agree that this particular entry had particularly poorly written dialogue that made it hard to really care about what was going on. It's called respecting one another's positions even though we argue about it a lot and not being obnoxious to one another just because we don't happen to see 100% eye to eye on the matter. I believe it's called being mature.....


gona move this convo to private message so that we do not stray too far from the original intent of this thread.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
mugimugi said:
You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature?
Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego?


Honestly no, but if people just want to rage at me I might as well be accommodating since it really doesn't bother me. Like so damn mad people...so damn mad. :/

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too each his own


Yeah basically. For the record I'm not trying to insult everyone's tastes here aside from the ones that are losing their shit over my comments cause it's hilarious to me to see them freak the fuck out. I honestly don't really care if people find this genius or not cause not everybody has the same standards for dialogue and writing. I just happen to disagree quite vehemently and think it's largely nonsense about terrible characters who I didn't care for one bit by the end. Meh....


Enjoying other people having a pretty normal reaction to your insults...you must be a pretty swell guy.

As for your insults, let's be honest first of all; what you're saying is that you don't like his style of writing. That you feel it is somehow undeserving of receiving praise from people who do enjoy that style of writing. At the end of the day, you are just complaining for no reason at all.

If something is popular but you don't like it then that doesn't mean that you are correct in claiming that it is objectively bad. Along with your pretentious and smug wording that you are clearly using with the intent to create anger, all to fuel the idea that you are correct and that the people who disagree are less cultured than yourself.

But let's ignore your issues for a moment.

Your complaint, the writing style, is a very specific one (I happen to enjoy it) which, if i had to describe it, mimics thought patterns in the way it works. The idea's we are given are not complete because the protagonist has not yet completed them, he doesn't understand them fully himself, so why should he be able to tell us in a single sentence? I also think you are forgetting that the original medium, a 'light novel' is generally written with an emphasis on speech. Not to say they all are, but that's just how they tend to be written. But in the end, it doesn't really matter, you simply can't stand the idea of something being popular and yet going against what you consider to be right.

Simply put, you are so blinded by the 'correct' way to write in your mind that anything that doesn't follow that is not worth your time. I wonder if you also believe that poetry should never have left the static rhythms of before or that anything other than a wall of prose is not worth reading?

In summary: someone like you, who has no desire to read something that isn't description ad infinitum and bland paragraphs, won't enjoy something that isn't.

I feel I've repeated the point, but, just as in Nekomonogatari, I feel you might gloss over it unless I ram it home. Though despite what you've said, I have to wonder why you continued watching for FOUR episodes if you didn't enjoy the style of writing.

I'm guessing it was just to complain.
 
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While the dialogue was less humorous than in other arcs, the crazy art and sense of style, not too mention oodles of fanservice were back in usual monogatari style. I loved how they ended it right at the beggining of Bakemonogatari. Miles better than Nisemonogatari.

Black Hanekawa...pffff.....
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Jan 4, 2013 3:08 PM

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This anime was not very entertaining at all but it was very unique.
 
Jan 4, 2013 4:42 PM

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not bad, not bad, i enjoyed quite a bit but was a bit of a mind fuck
 
Jan 4, 2013 4:55 PM

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Another great Monogatari . Looking forward to the next sets. 9/10
 
Jan 4, 2013 5:19 PM

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This was great, much better than Nisemonogatari.

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art style is as unique as usual. amazing sound design. i like how it connected so smoothly to Bakemono. writer is a genius!

nyaa~ out of 10.
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Worst -monogatari ( not counting katana- obviously ) series to date.

First half was decent, second half - average.
 
Jan 4, 2013 6:28 PM

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i enjoyed this far more than Nise reminded me of why i enjoyed the first season so much
8/10 for me

was still blown away by the fight even if it was short *He hid the sword inside of him lol*
 
Jan 4, 2013 7:36 PM

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That was quite enjoyable. Bake is still the best for me though. The way they connected the ending of Neko with the beginning of Bake was awesome. And that teaser in the end. ARGGGH...
 
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Really enjoyed Nekomonogatari. It was great to see Yoshino in his Hawaiian t-shirt again. :) Araragi being sexually frustrated was hilarious. Those Black Hanekawa fanservice moments were nice. Damn, cat-girls in lingerie... xD

Yet again Shinobu was the highlight for me. That Aberration Killer katana is one awesome long-as katana. I just loved it when Shinobu took it out of her mouth and then sat back then immediately.
Those Senjougahara cameos. :D Oh man, so hyped for Monogatari 2nd season!
 
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If the movie was currently out as well, what order would i watch these releases in? chronological? or the order the novels were released in?
 
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If the movie was currently out as well, what order would i watch these releases in? chronological? or the order the novels were released in?


Release order(novel) is bake-kizu-nise-neko(kuro) and that'll be better watching in this order... but we never know when the movie comes.
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Jan 4, 2013 10:26 PM

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This all reminded me why I love Araragi, cant wait for the movie or the next season.

10/10
 
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Shinobu is still and will alway be one of the most op Loli ever. also damn that dude got cut in half thx god there wasnt even black bars to mess ever thing up.


also Dat Neko is till to good


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Awesome series! I can't wait for the movie and the rest to be animated! :)
 
Jan 5, 2013 12:29 AM

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it was nice. Now I feel like rewatching Bakemono. Can't for season 2 as well.
 
Jan 5, 2013 12:37 AM

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Overall I liked this a lot. It wasn't as good as Bakemonogatari, but a lot better than Nisemonogatari. Now, bring on Kizumonogatari!
 
Jan 5, 2013 1:49 AM
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Really great, as expected from the series.

I gotta say, that was one blasphemous way to use an epic sword, no wonder Shinobu got mad.
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain"
Friedrich Schiller
 
Jan 5, 2013 4:27 AM

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this may sounds random, but i shed tears after i saw her silhouette standing on the top of the stairs while the familiar piano tune playing in the background, right before the ending credits. Damn, i guess i really miss Senjougahara.. :'(

anyway, personally i think this anime is better than Nisemono, but still can't beat Bakemono which got perfect score from me. btw, the 2nd season announcement showed in the last few seconds of this episode is killing me. more reason to stay alive throughout this year lol


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
 
Jan 5, 2013 8:08 AM

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Wow Nekomonogatari doesn't betrayed my expectation 10/10 !!
 
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