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Jan 1, 2013 12:42 PM

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Woohoo! Monogatari series is back! EPIC. Shaft/5 episode.

The only sad thing is that I feel like we will not see Hitagi in this arc :(
 
Jan 1, 2013 12:42 PM

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mugimugi said:
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Good start, the first part with Tsukihi was too long though.


Shorter than the novel version.


Way shorter.
 
Jan 1, 2013 12:43 PM

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Woohoo! Monogatari series is back! EPIC. Shaft/5 episode.

The only sad thing is that I feel like we will not see Hitagi in this arc :(


Well...

 
Jan 1, 2013 12:46 PM

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Chillax now guys, it's not like Nisemonogatari at least: (even tho that ep was pretty fun)
Well I am not the one that has a problem with it.Especially when Bakemonogatari also had many fanservice scenes.
 
Jan 1, 2013 12:53 PM

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My body was not ready. Dat imouto groping and Karen's marathon was too much. aishduhuiogahrg
Great reminder of why I love the monogatari series so much. Great text and fanservice.
 
Jan 1, 2013 1:26 PM

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Cool episode ,Araragi is perverted as always ,waiting for other 3 episodes to get translated :)
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Jan 1, 2013 2:00 PM

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this had a bit to much conversation in it, would have been nice if they kicked started the series a bit more
 
Jan 1, 2013 2:02 PM
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This was some funny stuff. I kinda miss Senjougahara's knife sharp wit, but the dialogue's still is good as ever.
 
Jan 1, 2013 2:09 PM

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Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
this had a bit to much conversation in it, would have been nice if they kicked started the series a bit more

The -monogatari series is pretty much all about conversations...
I mean, both Bake- and Nisemonogatari pretty much consists of scenes filled with conversations.
 
Jan 1, 2013 2:23 PM

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Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
this had a bit to much conversation in it, would have been nice if they kicked started the series a bit more


You do know the series that you are watching right...heavy dialogue has always been a given...
 
Jan 1, 2013 2:30 PM

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Awesome first episode.

I am so psyched for the rest.
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Jan 1, 2013 4:14 PM

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Oh god this was fucking hilarious. More yandere Tsukihi and got some Karen service too. Dat imouto boob grab.

I recently just re-watched Bakemonogatari a while ago, it seems a lot of stuff in Ep 11 were said again in this episode as well.

Lmao'd at Araragi when Hanekawa told him she'd do anything.
 
Jan 1, 2013 4:14 PM

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Good to see that the fanservice part isn't as big as in Nise. I hope this is going to continue like that.
And of course the dialogue was wonderful, the art was marvelous and the comedy was pretty good too.
 
Jan 1, 2013 5:13 PM

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Great episode i couldnt stop laughing from the breat grab to Karen walking in with a shit load of sweat, that made me go ewww. how i miss this show pacing.

Karen has words to live by haha.


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Jan 1, 2013 6:09 PM

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My New Year's holiday is now complete. First Kokoro Connect and now this...

All that could make it better would be for Kizumonogatari to be released...

On another note, I'm actually a fan of Shaft's treatment of these novels (although it is somewhat tedious doing the stop and rewind to read the two frame flash of text screens), but it isn't absolutely necessary to do this with text and conversation heavy shows. Zetsuen no Tempest did four or five episodes which were basically all conversation and logic with three of the main characters frozen in position for the entire sequence. I think both treatments work.
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Jan 1, 2013 7:25 PM

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If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
 
Jan 1, 2013 7:42 PM

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The overacting was excessively excessive at first, but it eventually evened out to an appropriate level of excessiveness.
 
Jan 1, 2013 8:54 PM

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Oh yes! Hanekawa! Feels so refreshing to hear Yui Horie voicing Hanekawa again!
As usual, a dialogue driven episode. Can't help but be entertained!

Ahaha. Groping Tsukihi's breast! Hahaha.
I kinda don't like the art of the Tsukihi gag faces though.

And a reference for Joe! Ahahaha.
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Jan 1, 2013 8:56 PM

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Ah, it's bacccckkkkkk loving it.
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Jan 1, 2013 8:57 PM

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riikaz said:
If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
No.Start with bakemonogatari then watch nisemonogatri and leave this for last
 
Jan 1, 2013 9:16 PM

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riikaz said:
If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
No.Start with bakemonogatari then watch nisemonogatri and leave this for last

There really is no reason to watch Nise before Nekomono, maybe even Bake, if not for the little recap in the beginning of the episode.
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Jan 2, 2013 4:54 AM

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Digglett said:
ssjokg said:
riikaz said:
If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
No.Start with bakemonogatari then watch nisemonogatri and leave this for last

There really is no reason to watch Nise before Nekomono, maybe even Bake, if not for the little recap in the beginning of the episode.
Excluding Kizu that unfortunately isnt out yet,I believe the best way to watch them is in the order that the novel volumes were released.
 
Jan 2, 2013 7:07 AM

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ah, how i really missed this series.. the conversations are amazing as usual, all seiyuu did a good job, not to forget some great fanservices from the girls (especially Karen, my 2nd fav character after Senjougahara).

this anime is definitely PLATINUM AWESOME!!1!

SHAFT, i bow to you..


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
 
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ssjokg said:
Digglett said:
ssjokg said:
riikaz said:
If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
No.Start with bakemonogatari then watch nisemonogatri and leave this for last

There really is no reason to watch Nise before Nekomono, maybe even Bake, if not for the little recap in the beginning of the episode.
Excluding Kizu that unfortunately isnt out yet,I believe the best way to watch them is in the order that the novel volumes were released.

I would actually suggest that riikaz first watched Bakemonogatari then read Kizumonogatari if you enjoy reading novels. After that you should continue watching Nise --> Neko.
 
Jan 2, 2013 7:34 AM

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Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
this had a bit to much conversation in it, would have been nice if they kicked started the series a bit more

The -monogatari series is pretty much all about conversations...
I mean, both Bake- and Nisemonogatari pretty much consists of scenes filled with conversations.

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You do know the series that you are watching right...heavy dialogue has always been a given...


and yes i know i have watched both bake and nisemono, i just thought it would have been nice for a bit more of a introduction, i like the heavy dialogue i just thought they jumped into fastly, but then again they don't have many episodes for this series.
 
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Pettersson said:
ssjokg said:
Digglett said:
ssjokg said:
riikaz said:
If i have never seen any of the other animes about this series, would it best to start with this particular one?
No.Start with bakemonogatari then watch nisemonogatri and leave this for last

There really is no reason to watch Nise before Nekomono, maybe even Bake, if not for the little recap in the beginning of the episode.
Excluding Kizu that unfortunately isnt out yet,I believe the best way to watch them is in the order that the novel volumes were released.

I would actually suggest that riikaz first watched Bakemonogatari then read Kizumonogatari if you enjoy reading novels. After that you should continue watching Nise --> Neko.
If I knew that Kizu was fully translated before Nise came out I would have read it first but I forgot to check it out....After Neko ep1 I started reading the novel version.
 
Jan 2, 2013 2:22 PM

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yes! Karen-chan's words will save the declining population of Japan XD




Truer words have never been spoken.
 
Jan 2, 2013 3:05 PM

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After watching both versions, commie > utw
Nothing wrong with utw but it felt too clean. Commie was just purrfect.
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Jan 2, 2013 10:25 PM

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lol aragi asking his little sisters for love help x.X
 
Jan 3, 2013 6:07 PM

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Hahaha, oh god I missed this! xD No series will ever have as brilliant dialogues as the monogataris! <3

Koyomi & Tsukihi's love talk was really fun, specially after they ended up in the result that Koyomi's just sexually frustrated, lol.

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yes! Karen-chan's words will save the declining population of Japan XD

THIS xD
 
Jan 3, 2013 6:55 PM

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But it was kinda wrong. Tsukihi was supposed to accept Koyomi's proposal to save H-san's boobs. Also she gave him the money for the magazines. As the Fire Sister she is.
He's asking the for love help because they're known for doing love counseling as Fire Sisters in school.
 
Jan 3, 2013 8:39 PM

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Wow, its finally here. I love this strange and sharp humour, even considering that i did have to pause a few times to read the screen, which is a little annoying. Araragi is the man, on of kind ;)
 
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Watching this a second time made me really frustrate after the whole conversation with both sisters. I know it was nothing but stupidity and service means to an end in outputting more money. I have to the conclusion that it’s certainly a good thing considering how the creator and most people in the industry don’t really earn much at all. However when elements such as the following,

Happen one most wonder WTF is the sister’s point in the first place to encourage having her breasts grabbed and in order to relief her brother’s urges. It’s nothing surprising. In my studying of Japanese culture I came upon a written from a certain source witnessing that a mother was willing after even mentioning and admitting to her husband that since their son got good grades but had sexual frustrations that if it’s OK to relief him orally? The husband concluded yes but not to indulge in anything more. While disturbing as it may be to foreign cultures this is natural for them due to Japanese society being highly stressed and in order to maintaining educational performance this was done by a familial understanding. I myself have a hard time swallowing this up but it’s what I read. If it helps the son to achieve excellent grades and be the best then so beat it. This looks like it may be so.

This is a little what was shown in anime fashion way. Especially since Araragi admitted that he is incapable of getting porn. While I think he must be stupid not to figure out the wonders of the NET and computers. I am quite surprised even that his sexual functions are working cause a vampire should have all lust transferred towards blood thirst but even if the effects are halved it should not make a difference towards the libido. Point being is that Araragi has both sister’s acceptance to get his sexuality relieved due to his schooling/love life in chaos.

I don’t really care of whole service but the conversation was completely stupid not to mention moronic at most to output service. Let’s see:

-Tsuhiki feet + legs = body part sexual fetish

– Breast grab = to sexual lust.

– Angle focus on sexual parts such as privates, ass and breasts = to sexual lust output.

– Wet + panties + seeing privates in one’s brain = sexual lust output

– Drinking water + mouth/lips details with the alluding it could be something else = possible water sports fetish aka pee drinking. A fetish in some people’s minds.

– Breasts naked out = sexual lust output

I don’t think I missed anything and this concludes of why it’s service appeal in many ways with the brain’s imaginary forces.

Here is what I propose that required me to use my brain.

Rousokuzawa is interesting in being the lover of Tsuhiki but I want to see what he looks like and if he could have a role in the anime itself..

About the OP, one of the things interesting of the OP is the fact in the spoiler
a rather nice depiction of flowers and darkness. This goes hand in hand with lyrics in showing the flowers being the blooming love of Hanekawa for Araragi enshrouded in the violence and physical abuse from her fake father while the mother snuffs out at her pain/misery. Question remains why is Araragi like this?

The second thing in the spoiler
is a custom reversal of the pic. That yields out a rather interesting phrase which means books and a emotional connection to them. That’s rather interesting because usually people with bad environments around them tend to go into books a lot cause it warps their reality and make them forget the abuse be it sexual or physical. It’s quite a nice means but it only puts you in bubble and never solves anything really.

About what Araragi was reading, that big text you saw comes from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamata_no_Orochi
make no mistake about it and Araragi looks too dumb to figure this whole concept. It's far too philosophically advance for him.

Just delays time till you can GTFO from the place you are stuck due to your age. Books tend to give out a fake perfect place in your brain to make its chemistry cope with the stress of the negativity from the reality. Rather interesting concept and means to an end in making one’s life easier despite the shit they are around. Still the question remains WTF does the phrase mean for other people's interpretations I wonder? To that effect I invite the community in thinking about it.

Finally this first episode still leaves me sour because the art is nice but the stupidity is really dumb at 70% let’s leave at that. So I will just say Karen and Tsukihi are nice too see in their own ways. I have that nice poster of Nisemonogatari with them. Seeing them again and staring at the poster reminds how rich they are other than their service of their bodies.

But hey anime industry people earn less than 35 000 a year at most so service is the way to go to make the extra dough. I understand though now more than before with this series strangely.

Other than that I wonder if Hanekawa’s mother is dead. I assume at most the stepfather hits her due to alcohol problems most likely but I knew it before even.

I am curious as to the OP’s glimpse of Hanekawa’s musical instrument.

I will leave it as that. Club has a bunch of shots I took of this episode. Showing clearly the art richness and facial richness of Tsuhiki.

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Jan 4, 2013 4:19 AM

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Amazing Opening! Good job Shaft
 
Jan 4, 2013 5:07 AM

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What am I even reading. Where did you even get any of this from?

"Other than that I wonder if Hanekawa’s mother is dead. I assume at most the stepfather hits her due to alcohol problems most likely but I knew it before even."

Hanekawa's biological mother gave birth to her at 17. She had many lovers at the time so she doesn't know who Hanekawa's father is. She married another man who was known to be a workaholic. Her mother committed suicide after this. The workaholic father married another woman (who is Hanekawa's current mother) and soon died from overwork. The mother married another man who is Hanekawa's current father and the one who hit her.

It also explained why her father hit her in episode 4.

Did you even watch the show?
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What am I even reading. Where did you even get any of this from?

"Other than that I wonder if Hanekawa’s mother is dead. I assume at most the stepfather hits her due to alcohol problems most likely but I knew it before even."

Hanekawa's biological mother gave birth to her at 17. She had many lovers at the time so she doesn't know who Hanekawa's father is. She married another man who was known to be a workaholic. Her mother committed suicide after this. The workaholic father married another woman (who is Hanekawa's current mother) and soon died from overwork. The mother married another man who is Hanekawa's current father and the one who hit her.

It also explained why her father hit her in episode 4.

Did you even watch the show?
Eh..This is ep1 you know.Also after watching ep1 I started the LN but I am sure that the details of her biological mother such as the suicide and details of her first father werent in the anime(ep1 at least).Unless I missed something because I turned my head away from the screen for a second.Which is highly possible with *monogatari.
 
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Hanekawa explains her familiy situation in episode 1.
 
Jan 4, 2013 7:28 AM

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Hanekawa explains her familiy situation in episode 1.
She didnt give any details though(which is what I meant).She just said that her current parents arent blood related.
 
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mugimugi said:
A lot of the elements are IRL truths of Japanese culture. That you can't deny. Go read books and you will know.
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What am I even reading. Where did you even get any of this from?

"Other than that I wonder if Hanekawa’s mother is dead. I assume at most the stepfather hits her due to alcohol problems most likely but I knew it before even."

Hanekawa's biological mother gave birth to her at 17. She had many lovers at the time so she doesn't know who Hanekawa's father is. She married another man who was known to be a workaholic. Her mother committed suicide after this. The workaholic father married another woman (who is Hanekawa's current mother) and soon died from overwork. The mother married another man who is Hanekawa's current father and the one who hit her.
So you are saying that Hanekawa's mother was a slut in school to have many guys taking turns for sex with her and one day oops one knocks her up with a kid? That's low in life. I don't like them girls like that. No kidding suicide happened. Guy was working all the time and mother got depressed especially after giving birth and the guy is not there. So father remarried? OK I got that. I see, well if he insane about work well he surely must be drinking or is just plain stressed out so he hits her to relief them stress.
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It also explained why her father hit her in episode 4.

Did you even watch the show?
We are at episode 1 did you like see all the show and are telling something that is not episode 1? Cause this is episode 1 only. I think the details you talking about are not here yet but from the LN perhaps.
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Hanekawa explains her family situation in episode 1.
I certainly did not grasp it at all with them stupid flashes of words subbed that escape my view cause it flashes for one second. I HATE THAT SHIT! Annoying to pause just to see what are the subs for that so I skip it.

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The moment someone says they'll do anything xD Waited some time for this good prequel and quite funny as well, just loved this first episode lets see what's next!
 
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I live partially in japan as I am partially japanese. What you're talking about is some filtered information that people write and show in media because who wants to read how normal and boring japan is. Don't overanalyze it. It's not some other planet or something.

The japanese were quite stiff, and boring in public before the counterculture revolution in the 60s.
Japanese media is based on using exaggerated character traits, weird face expressions, seen in all those prank shows and everything quite colorful or over the top because that's what they didn't have in daily life. But that not just japan.
The mangaka started to create all these crazy things because manga was like their medium to express all that they wanted to show. Kinda like Hanekawa's stress problem, haha.
Not these days anymore though. Youth changed, all rebellious, everythings normal. It's not some other planet and it's not like they don't have any connections to other culture that influences them, not saying it's what japan does or needs to do.

Fanservice basically doesn't exist in this anime since it's only adapting Nisio comedy elements (Show me fanservice in a light novel).
It's comedy or ero. Fanservice, doesn't exist as an element at all actually. You can only call stuff fanservice that was basically a service for the fans and had no comedy, plot value or simply doesn't fit into the genre of the manga/novel/anime/movie/whatever.

And why are you calling Hanekawa's mother a slut? A woman is a slut when she has "fun" in her days but all these dudes humping around is okay?
If you didn't watch episode 4 yet then you should because they explain why the father hits Hanekawa. Nothing to do with drinking or anything like that.
The whole show is already out you know. Even the subs, check UTW-Mazui.

Those flashes are not meant to be read even though they sometimes provide information or show a thought of Araragi.

http://akirascuro.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/exploring-typography-in-nisemonogatari/
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mugimugi said:
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I live partially in japan as I am partially Japanese. What you're talking about is some filtered information that people write and show in media because who wants to read how normal and boring japan is. Don't over-analyze it. It's not some other planet or something.
Well the fact is that it is. The stress level there is more than other parts of the world and dysfunctionality is bound to incur. I am saying this is just one cultural aspect of them. Regardless I still read it from a PRO view of society there. Might be from one spot but it's all I need to generalize that family dysfunctions occur. This series is rather good at showing it in Hanekawa's point of view and in general across the world.
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The Japanese were quite stiff, and boring in public before the counterculture revolution in the 60s.
Japanese media is based on using exaggerated character traits, weird face expressions, seen in all those prank shows and everything quite colourful or over the top because that's what they didn't have in daily life.
I know that. Obviously to quit the boredom and perhaps prevent the high suicidal rate still lingering since the 50s this series also shows that well through visuals. The creator obvious wants multi social messages out there.
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But that not just japan.
The mangaka started to create all these crazy things because manga was like their medium to express all that they wanted to show. Kinda like Hanekawa's stress problem, haha.
That I know, it's in fact a rather medium cause of the USA influence and control over them. In fact I know too much about it.
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Not these days anymore though. Youth changed, all rebellious, everything normal. It's not some other planet and it's not like they don't have any connections to other culture that influences them, not saying it's what japan does or needs to do.
I am saying before any of that USA is pretty much on control of that. Else they would not stay around.
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Fan service basically doesn't exist in this anime since it's only adapting Nisio comedy elements (Show me fan service in a light novel).
It's comedy or ero. Fan service, doesn't exist as an element at all actually. You can only call stuff fan service that was basically a service for the fans and had no comedy, plot value or simply doesn't fit into the genre of the manga/novel/anime/movie/whatever.
Fan service can be ero too. I know of the stupid love comedy and it's implication but I am saying it was plain stupid and tried to be comedic while IRL to me it would be more servicing out the girls. That’s how I see it.
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And why are you calling Hanekawa's mother a slut? A woman is a slut when she has "fun" in her days but all these dudes humping around is okay?
If you didn't watch episode 4 yet then you should because they explain why the father hits Hanekawa. Nothing to do with drinking or anything like that.
The whole show is already out you know. Even the subs, check UTW-Mazui.
Compared to you I do graphics and it takes me up to 4 times more time to see. However unlike most lazy asses I take my time to provide as much as I can of visuals captured.

Hanekawa's mother is a slut because she ought to stay with one guy she loves instead of opening her privates to many. Her privates must devoted to the one that made her kid and his also. Ideally it does not work all the time like that.
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Those flashes are not meant to be read even though they sometimes provide information or show a thought of Araragi.

http://akirascuro.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/exploring-typography-in-nisemonogatari/
I know that but the information providing is what worries me in missing them out.

Quite the intellectual you seem to be, try not to derail too much the thread over this. It's not allowed and can land in trouble with the Forum Mods. Keep it in mind.

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mugimugi said:
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I live partially in japan as I am partially japanese. What you're talking about is some filtered information that people write and show in media because who wants to read how normal and boring japan is. Don't overanalyze it. It's not some other planet or something.

The japanese were quite stiff, and boring in public before the counterculture revolution in the 60s.
Japanese media is based on using exaggerated character traits, weird face expressions, seen in all those prank shows and everything quite colorful or over the top because that's what they didn't have in daily life. But that not just japan.
The mangaka started to create all these crazy things because manga was like their medium to express all that they wanted to show. Kinda like Hanekawa's stress problem, haha.
Not these days anymore though. Youth changed, all rebellious, everythings normal. It's not some other planet and it's not like they don't have any connections to other culture that influences them, not saying it's what japan does or needs to do.

Fanservice basically doesn't exist in this anime since it's only adapting Nisio comedy elements (Show me fanservice in a light novel).
It's comedy or ero. Fanservice, doesn't exist as an element at all actually. You can only call stuff fanservice that was basically a service for the fans and had no comedy, plot value or simply doesn't fit into the genre of the manga/novel/anime/movie/whatever.

And why are you calling Hanekawa's mother a slut? A woman is a slut when she has "fun" in her days but all these dudes humping around is okay?
If you didn't watch episode 4 yet then you should because they explain why the father hits Hanekawa. Nothing to do with drinking or anything like that.
The whole show is already out you know. Even the subs, check UTW-Mazui.

Those flashes are not meant to be read even though they sometimes provide information or show a thought of Araragi.

http://akirascuro.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/exploring-typography-in-nisemonogatari/
He also made a mistake about her current father.Her first father that married her biological mother died.The woman he married before dying remarried some other guy and that guy hit her.

But Hanekawa did say that these werent her first mother and father.

Also, I agree that calling her mother a slut because she had fun is stupid(for lack of a better word).

And how in the hell is HE derailing the thread?
 
Jan 5, 2013 8:11 AM

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mugimugi said:
Yumekichi11 said:


I live partially in japan as I am partially japanese. What you're talking about is some filtered information that people write and show in media because who wants to read how normal and boring japan is. Don't overanalyze it. It's not some other planet or something.

The japanese were quite stiff, and boring in public before the counterculture revolution in the 60s.
Japanese media is based on using exaggerated character traits, weird face expressions, seen in all those prank shows and everything quite colorful or over the top because that's what they didn't have in daily life. But that not just japan.
The mangaka started to create all these crazy things because manga was like their medium to express all that they wanted to show. Kinda like Hanekawa's stress problem, haha.
Not these days anymore though. Youth changed, all rebellious, everythings normal. It's not some other planet and it's not like they don't have any connections to other culture that influences them, not saying it's what japan does or needs to do.
Isn't that the case with all forms of media and not just in Japan.
i mean if you look at American or European comics you will also see a world that's different from reality you will also see facial expressions that you won't encounter in reality.
However what you do often see is the culture they came from even if it's over the top and in some cases even stereotype but as you say it won't be appealing other wise.
 
Jan 5, 2013 6:26 PM

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"Golden"

Hmm, so there was a whole lot more to the conversation that Koyomi and Tsubasa had (or will have) in Tsubasa Cat. He healed her wound using his blood. The lead up to it made me laugh though. It was far funnier than the condensed flashback in Bakemonogatari.

Still, I'm a bit surprised this came out before Kizumonogatari, given that Kizu was announced much earlier than Neko: Kuro was.
 
Jan 7, 2013 1:51 AM

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I like Tsukihi with long hair. It was interesting to see a longer version of the dialogue with Tsubasa in the current art style.
 
Jan 9, 2013 1:40 PM

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Oppai~
 
Jan 12, 2013 6:35 AM

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Holy shit grabbing Tsukihi's breast like a boss and not giving a damn about Karen taking her top clothes off. Surely Koyomi is badass.

Love the fanservice here. ;D


 
Feb 12, 2013 9:52 AM

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Wow! The animators are amazing! :OO I wish I could just like.. go into the anime and play around with the props forever~ and his sisters >:3

Uhh.. quick question.. Is this where the series starts or did I miss one?
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sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
 
Feb 14, 2013 10:44 AM

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Ghostony said:
Wow! The animators are amazing! :OO I wish I could just like.. go into the anime and play around with the props forever~ and his sisters >:3

Uhh.. quick question.. Is this where the series starts or did I miss one?


You can say it is first poart of the Monogatari series at least chronologicaly. Also events of Kizumonogatari that is supposed to be released any moment now takes action before the events in Nekomonogatari Kuro

I recomend watching this in order of releases though. Some characters get a better iintroduction this way.

So recomnded order / relses order

Bakemonogatari => Nisemonogatari = > Nekomonogatari Kuro => ?? Kizumonogatari ?? => Monogatari 2nd season

Chronology

Kizumonogatari => Nekomonogatari Kuro => Bakemonogatari => Nisemonogatari => monogatari 2nd season

Bakemonogatari is still the best part of it, but all 3 are amazing.
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