Claymore Episode 26 Discussion
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Sep 26, 2007 12:01 AM
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
And so Clamemore ends.
I'm sorry, why did they divert from the manga to make this kind of open ending again...?
Since I wasn't expecting anything from this it wasn't so bad... lol... who am I kidding..
The way Clare overcome Priscilla was so... lame... there's really no other word to describe it. The way Priscilla submitted afterwards was possibly even more...
For a moment there I though Raki was gonna die, but it wasn't to be. Instead died Jean, who should have been dead for ~3 episodes.
Claymore seems like a re-edition of Death Note. Only this time, the drop in quality was even worse. It will probably end with a score of 7/10 (good). And the sole reason for that are the first ~17 episodes.
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Sep 26, 2007 9:27 AM
I enjoyed Claymore a lot. Awesome designs when it comes to surroundings and Awakened Beings, an interesting story line and very good music. The ending was fine with me and I wouldn't mind seeing more of this sometime in the future. I've been looking forward to every new episode and wasn't disappointed. 10/10
: Just checked my notes on each episode again and I think I'll rate it a 9 after all, doesn't change the fact that it was awesome.
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Going for manga now.
Good idea, start a bit before the peita arc. :)
Claymore went from a 10/10 to a 7/10 in the end. I really hated that ohshitshewasn'tfullyawakened Priscilla, I mean she was so awsome from the start and still is in the manga(if not even more after the extra chapter with Priscilla meeting Easley).
Agree'd Priscilla looked stupid as hell.
Sep 26, 2007 10:26 AM
29 said:Oh, but it was 29...
yeah, it wasn't as bad as Kayrhandros puts it
I'm not really expecting to change anyone's opinion here but maybe I can "open some eyes"
For starters, not only me, not only the manga readers have pointed out how bad it was. Even the group fansubbing it, Eclipse, said so. Alow me to quote them:
Every once in a while, working on an episode can become really really painful...I wonder why..
This is one of these cases. Final episode of Claymore.
Secondly, and I forgot to mention this on my first post. I gotta say how much I loved the dialogue on the first ~5mins. Allow me another quote
Clare: Korosu!... Korosu! Korosu!!Epic.
Priscilla: Urusanai!...*insert random phrase here*... Urusanai. Urusanai. Urusanai!
Priscilla: Urusanai, Urusanai!
Thirdly, and I've mentioned this one before. Priscilla is one of the most powerful awakened beings, in the anime. Yet she seemed to have a hard time with a "not-even-fully-awakened Clare". But at some point, she dominates Clare easily, and says "I'm going to kill you" or something along those lines. Then, she throws her up and sends some "self-made blades" which don't kill Clare yet. Instead she falls, passing in front of Priscilla, who again says "I'll kill you". During the fall Clare thinks of Teresa once again, like she did an uncountable amount of times in the last 3 episodes. The difference this time is that she mysteriously gains a huge amount of power and surprises Priscilla. Who was hardly bothered with Clare at all until that moment. She even manages to lose her wings and get cut up badly.
Cliche much?. Or maybe lame is a better word to describe it.
Also, the numerous plot wholes this ending gave:
And look 29 already found one.
29 said:-Yes, and why would the organization lose half it's battle force if Isley/Easley (that's his name), didn't have other more dangerous intentions than just watching his troops and claymores go at it. Oh, I know he was just upset about Pieta. Coz it was an ugly city so it needed be destroyed... Fact is there was a real reason for the attack on Pieta. In the manga that is...
i would have liked to see more about the dude of the north though, whatever his name was. the claymores set off to kill the guy and all he does is stand by and watch?
More to it:
-The Claymore's sent to the massacre did not get revenge against the organization.
-Also, the Organization was nothing more than a plot device, while in the manga it's one of the most important aspects of the plot.
-Raki was nothing more than a plot device. And became one of the most despicable characters I have memory of. While in the manga, that does not happen.
I'm not even gonna point more or I'll never finish this.
I'll just ask again. Why did they go for the original ending if they weren't going to settle things?
Ps: one more memorable moment of how Claymore's animation dropped. Even though in this episode it wasn't so bad.
Anyway, For the skeptics about the manga... I you don't wanna take the opinions of every manga reader, I suggest you see it with your own eyes.
Modified by Kayrhandros, Sep 26, 2007 2:04 PM
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Sobzob said:My thoughts exactly.
Static said:I Certainly do not want a second season with this shitty ending.
The ending kinda leads us to a Season 2 / more Manga (with the anime ending bla bla bla). Hope it does...
And so it started as one of the best shows and so it ends as a horrible failure. I am still way supporting this ending;
Ending the show with the 'everyone dies' scene in Pieta.Claymore went from a 10/10 to a 7/10 in the end.
Sobzob said:Indeed, not only did they manage to make of Raki a useless character, but they also managed to completely destroy everything that made Priscilla great.
I really hated that ohshitshewasn'tfullyawakened Priscilla, I mean she was so awsome from the start and still is in the manga(if not even more after the extra chapter with Priscilla meeting Easley).
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mmmh... i guess you are right, Kayrhandros. the whole "syndicate" thing has been left without explanation. and true, the ending was cheesy too...
Yeah, that's the only thing I would have liked to know more about.
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Meh. I love the drop in quality. Oh yes.
Claymore will still be one of my favorite anime, mainly because of Clare and Teresa, but....meh, even I'm dissappointed. >.<
Guess I'll have to go start reading the manga and see how much more kick ass it is than the anime. ^_^
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Horrible horrible horrible ending...this is easily as bad as Black Cats or the S-Cry-ed endings. Serioulsy i can type out right now 10 major plot holes no one ever bothered to carry out.Not to mention it was anti-climactic as all get out. pathetic ending to a fairly decent series (well was)
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wow, so many people say the ending sucked. i havent read the manga, so i thot it was fine. i might have to read it now tho...
btw, DeathfireD, i REALLY hope thats not kakashi without his mask on because i still havent seen him that way........... thats him isnt it..? wtF man...
its photoshoped. No one has seen him without his mask yet.
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I lol'd so much ;D.
I havnt read the manga, but i dont need to to detest this ending. It was utter crap, seriously. So they stray from the manga, after following it at first, only to give such an ending as that??? This has been a major dissapointment for me, started off as a 10/10 and the most anticipating show for me, until they began straying from the manga (or so when people say they started to, for an anime original ending). Theres more stuff i wanted to say but i forgot what... ah wellz...
Yeah what a crap ending... I feel to give it a 6/10, but when i see what else i have given a 6.... Yeah i'll give it a 7/10.
Oh yeah, and congratulations Raki, you officially have become my most hated anime charecter! Lolz, what a shit ending.
edit: lolz, thats right, as soon as Jean jumped in front of Clare and pushed Raki out of the way, and Jean started talkin to Clare you know what they say, i seriously just didnt want to watch anymore. I so wanted to just get out of it, but i didnt since ofcourse i wanted to watch the whole thing, mann what a shit ending :P....
Oh yeah and with it all open im just even more pissed off that they went with this anime original ending all open like that, NOTHING WAS SOLVED! -_-' ... I swear they BETTER NOT make another 2nd season, cause if they do i will be soooo pissed off. If they do they should have completly followed the manga and left an open ending that way, not this disaster. A complete failure.
Mann what a shit ending....
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yea, i was really looking forward to this epic climactic battle as well, only to be disappointed in the ending. the only action that could help redeem this tragedy would be letting me shoot raki in the face for being one of the most worthless and annoying anime sidekicks ever.
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Crap, the only good thing about this episode was that Priscilla suddenly had cool Zealot Psi Blades
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Yumi, you should probably put that fact about Priscilla under spoiler tags as it's only true on the manga. Since the anime never pointed so. Instead...
Every non manga reader is thinking the most powerful among the AB is Isley and not Priscilla.
Anyway, I was wandering around the net today, and I was reminded of one thing...
Clare made a promise with Ophelia to kill Priscilla... so what happened to that?
I guess Clare showed Ophelia the fingeryet another plot hole.
And speaking of dead characters, she also promised Irene to give her arm back. True Irene is dead but Clare is unaware of the fact.
So, I guess she showed Irene the finger too.
But one of the things that pain me the most, is that I never got to see the awakened form of Isley animated - which is the most spectacular of them all - , and none of his battles.
(click to see Isley's awakened form - manga spoilers)
Neither did I see Beth or Alicia, The Dweller of the South nor the true story behind Rafaella's unhealed scar. And I don't even wanna talk about Clarice and Miata.
Seriously people. Go read the manga.
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Sobzob said:Yeah true. With the last ~8 episodes' animation quality it would have definitely looked like shit.
I suppose they thought that he was way to hard to animate.. I mean, they would probably make him look like shit.. Just look at Clare, I was disappointed in her awakened form in the anime, I mean she is so cool in the manga.
Still, if the animation quality was that of the first dozen of episodes, I'm sure they could have handled it.
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