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Dec 6, 2008 4:11 PM

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The book isnt that bad, but the movie was horrible. I mean Edward was basically described as god-like and and what do we get?! some guy with hair that sticks up like some freak, i mean at least make it look stylish! Does he even have a lipss? And the characters cant even act, specially bella and she really needs to work on blinking so much! Overall i think it was too rushed and they tried putting everything in the book in the movie. I just hope the next movie: New Moon, they get more acting practise!
Dec 6, 2008 4:25 PM

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Baman said:
Zange said:
(i guess the hunky vampire boyfriend theme is quite popular...)

Hunky? That guy?
Alucard could be a "hunky vampire boyfriend". I'd go gay for him.


I'd stay straight for him, unless he asked.

But seriously, though, if you want to see a decent vampire movie this season, check out a little movie called Let the Right One In.
Dec 6, 2008 7:00 PM
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arturo said:

Better hold on tight, Spider Monkey.



I swear, someone on here had an icon of that once~
Dec 6, 2008 9:33 PM
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arturo said:

Better hold on tight, Spider Monkey.



a m a z i n g
Dec 6, 2008 11:12 PM

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arturo said:
Indeed. I am amazed at how deep the nickname is.

Edward Cullen: That's what you dream about? Being a monster?
Isabella Swan: I dream about being with you forever.

Oh, pitter patter.




Major BAWWWW moment, amirite?
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Dec 7, 2008 6:24 AM

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A common trait I've seen amongst the more idiotic Twilight fans is they love the book with all their soul and curse every moment of their waking life because Edward Cullen is a fictional character but they hate the movie and claim its "different" from the trash that is the novel. But in reality the only differences are hair color changes and shortening the plot for movie format. "Cut it until it bleeds" is the term used by many writers.

Then they go on to the so called "haters" and claim they only hate the movie not the books but the books are good and are completely different. Which is obvious just utter bullshit. In other words they use the movie as the excuse for the hate not because of the truth that its self insertion fetish fanfiction meant for deranged, needy, and lonely young girls. Its just one big scapegoat they use to make themselves feel "bigger" than the haters inside their pathetic little head. What it comes down to is if you like the book then if you aren't bias or just bluntly dumb then you will like the movie. If you don't like the movie then you don't like the book.
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The_Doctor said:
A common trait I've seen amongst the more idiotic Twilight fans is they love the book with all their soul and curse every moment of their waking life because Edward Cullen is a fictional character but they hate the movie and claim its "different" from the trash that is the novel. But in reality the only differences are hair color changes and shortening the plot for movie format. "Cut it until it bleeds" is the term used by many writers.

Then they go on to the so called "haters" and claim they only hate the movie not the books but the books are good and are completely different. Which is obvious just utter bullshit. In other words they use the movie as the excuse for the hate not because of the truth that its self insertion fetish fanfiction meant for deranged, needy, and lonely young girls. Its just one big scapegoat they use to make themselves feel "bigger" than the haters inside their pathetic little head. What it comes down to is if you like the book then if you aren't bias or just bluntly dumb then you will like the movie. If you don't like the movie then you don't like the book.


subjective huh? =P
Dec 7, 2008 8:06 AM

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Rebella said:
subjective huh? =P

But...
He's a Doctor right?
he should know his stuff D:
Dec 7, 2008 9:01 AM

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I plan on seeing this movie evenutally...owo
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Dec 7, 2008 10:42 AM

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Baman said:
Rebella said:
subjective huh? =P

But...
He's a Doctor right?
he should know his stuff D:


Seriously, if I were a fan of the books and read this topic, I'd cry D:
I'll assume everyone who's bashing here reads manga and watches anime. Honestly, they're not better. If the word "trash" applies to Stephanie Meyer's books then I could say the same thing about animes and mangas. Live and let live... if teenage girls like sappy and romantic novels and there's nothing wrong with that then let them be. It's not cool to bash a thing someone else likes just because the person who made that thing is successful. IMO miss Meyer did a great job because it's hard to come up with something that appeals to a large number of people and you rarely see two people agree on something so let alone a group of people.


Dec 7, 2008 10:52 AM

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Rebella said:
Seriously, if I were a fan of the books and read this topic, I'd cry D:
I'll assume everyone who's bashing here reads manga and watches anime. Honestly, they're not better. If the word "trash" applies to Stephanie Meyer's books then I could say the same thing about animes and mangas. Live and let live... if teenage girls like sappy and romantic novels and there's nothing wrong with that then let them be. It's not cool to bash a thing someone else likes just because the person who made that thing is successful. IMO miss Meyer did a great job because it's hard to come up with something that appeals to a large number of people and you rarely see two people agree on something so let alone a group of people.

There are certainly trashy anime and manga too, and since I have not read the books, I cannot say whether or not any specific manga or anime is better, but take LoGH for example. I daresay those original novels are far more deep and well written than Twilight. Bashing these books is one thing, but bashing anime and manga in it's entirety is something else entirely, and cannot be compared.
And as for the RAEG against this series fangirls, I assume this is because they proceed to say things like "Twilight is the best book ever", which is an incredibly stupid thing to say, no matter what book or anime one refers to.

Meyer is certainly not a genious to write something to appeal to the masses. Look at series like Bleach and Naruto. There is no amount of ingenuity inherent in these ideas, as they merely play on the critical spots of a demography, and is certainly not a hard thing to do.
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Baman said:
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Seriously, if I were a fan of the books and read this topic, I'd cry D:
I'll assume everyone who's bashing here reads manga and watches anime. Honestly, they're not better. If the word "trash" applies to Stephanie Meyer's books then I could say the same thing about animes and mangas. Live and let live... if teenage girls like sappy and romantic novels and there's nothing wrong with that then let them be. It's not cool to bash a thing someone else likes just because the person who made that thing is successful. IMO miss Meyer did a great job because it's hard to come up with something that appeals to a large number of people and you rarely see two people agree on something so let alone a group of people.

There are certainly trashy anime and manga too, and since I have not read the books, I cannot say whether or not any specific manga or anime is better, but take LoGH for example. I daresay those original novels are far more deep and well written than Twilight. Bashing these books is one thing, but bashing anime and manga in it's entirety is something else entirely, and cannot be compared.
And as for the RAEG against this series fangirls, I assume this is because they proceed to say things like "Twilight is the best book ever", which is an incredibly stupid thing to say, no matter what book or anime one refers to.

Meyer is certainly not a genious to write something to appeal to the masses. Look at series like Bleach and Naruto. There is no amount of ingenuity inherent in these ideas, as they merely play on the critical spots of a demography, and is certainly not a hard thing to do.


I agree. Anime is not one genre or one type of show so that can't be applied to all mangas and animes. But are those girls stupid for liking the books? It's entertainment business. They read it for fun. Books, movies and songs don't always have to make us smart you know. People are into those things to help them escape from reality. Maybe the girl who said it was the best book she had ever read because it's attached to a memory or something. Does liking the books makes them dumb or *insert any label here* ?
Dec 7, 2008 11:28 AM

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Rebella said:
I agree. Anime is not one genre or one type of show so that can't be applied to all mangas and animes. But are those girls stupid for liking the books? It's entertainment business. They read it for fun. Books, movies and songs don't always have to make us smart you know. People are into those things to help them escape from reality. Maybe the girl who said it was the best book she had ever read because it's attached to a memory or something. Does liking the books makes them dumb or *insert any label here* ?

Well, liking it does not make one stupid, but I would say that it shows that one has not ventured far into the realms of deeper literature, at least. But very few do that, me included.
Saying that something is the best book one has ever read is by no means idiotic, and while I can never hope to understand people that rate Bleach or Naruto as the best things they have seen, they are of course, free to say it nevertheless.
It is when they say these things are the best ever that I choke on my tea.
Dec 7, 2008 11:57 AM

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PLEASE don't get me started on Twilight.
Dec 7, 2008 11:59 AM

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PLEASE don't get me started on Twilight.

I know, it's so cliche and unoriginal isn't it? :D
Dec 7, 2008 12:25 PM

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so you guys don't like chicks flicks? =P
Dec 7, 2008 12:33 PM

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Rebella said:
so you guys don't like chicks flicks? =P

I don't like guy flicks either D:
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But hey, I do read Shoujo occasionally.
Dec 7, 2008 12:36 PM

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Baman said:
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so you guys don't like chicks flicks? =P

I don't like guy flicks either D:
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But hey, I do read Shoujo occasionally.


What kinda shoujos?
Which one is better, vampire knight or twilight?
Dec 7, 2008 12:41 PM

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What kinda shoujos?
Which one is better, vampire knight or twilight?

Uh, none? D:>
I'd say Bitter Virgin.
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Baman said:
Rebella said:
What kinda shoujos?
Which one is better, vampire knight or twilight?

Uh, none? D:>
I'd say Bitter Virgin.


That's not a shoujo. That's a seinen.
A shoujo is vampire knight, ouran, special A... etc.
Dec 7, 2008 1:00 PM

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Unfortunately I have read the book, and I have to say that the only reason I finished it was out of a sense of morbid curiousity. It seems I was suffering from car crash syndrome from around the fourth page.

I'll happily state that anyone who likes the book, or considers it as a valid work of fiction, is either stupid or deficient in some way. Feel free to argue, but know that this book is nothing more than a glorified Mills & Boon romance, with added vampires (for that garlicky taste). I'm sure that none of the so-called fans, who will no doubt move on to the next "hot young thing/fad" within a year or so, would actually consider a Mills & Boon novel to be any real kind of literature (unless the men in their fantasies actually do have shirts that run taut over hardened rippling muscles, whilst their manliness shines forth from every pore like the light of the evening sun [/sarcasm]). That being the case (and before you say, yes, I know it's a generailastion), why would anyone with an ounce of sense (and I credit you fans with far too much in the first place - please ensure you avoid slippery surfaces when leaving the cinema), actually think Twilight is anything more than one person's masturbatory fantasy?

I'm not bashing Stephanie Meyers for being successful, far from it. Nor am I bashing the book/movie for being popular. I hate them from a more critical perspective, and I'm absolutely appalled that publishing has fallen so low as to let these things go into print. There used to be a time when having a book published actually meant you were good at something, but now all you need to do is look pretty and copy someone else's story almost verbatim (which both Stephanie Meyer and J. K. Rowling have done, or need I mention Buffy, or Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman (a real author), or Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card (another real author) - try reading this).

It is my deepest hope that none of you fans are allowed near any nuclear facilities, military silos, tanks, guns, planes, or other objects with the capacity for multiple deaths - at least until you've proven that you actually have some common sense. I may be being harsh by generalising so much, but you haven't seen the horde of rabidly damp fangirls from an external perspective, so you obviously won't understand what I'm saying anyway.

Oh, and maybe someone could answer this for me. Exactly how is the relationship between a vampire and a human classed as "forbidden fruit", especially given the fact that so many young girls have a fetish for the seductive vampire? I thought the term "forbidden fruit" only related to incest (a game for all the family - in stores now, ready for christmas), or is this something that Stephanie Meyer is going to "surprise" us with later on (ahoy there one eyed, half vampire baby with no left toes and canines that would make a sabretooth see a dentist).

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I know, it's so cliche and unoriginal isn't it? :D


First Stephanie Meyer would have to know what those two words mean....
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Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM

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Her writing style is awful, I love reading and it's disgrace to any classic books that she is so popular with the rubbish she has written, honestly.
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Her writing style is awful, I love reading and it's disgrace to any classic books that she is so popular with the rubbish she has written, honestly.


I have a feeling you have been burned by alot of people for those comments. But I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Her writing style is awful, I love reading and it's disgrace to any classic books that she is so popular with the rubbish she has written, honestly.

I agree. Twilight is the epitome of cliche and makemewannathrowup,allofyoucharactersgosteponalandmineFUCK kind of shit.

& don't get me started with the fangirls. The one's at school, they try to kill me with their eyes, harassment, imo.
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& don't get me started with the fangirls. The one's at school, they try to kill me with their eyes, harassment, imo.

I share your pain... *__*



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& don't get me started with the fangirls. The one's at school, they try to kill me with their eyes, harassment, imo.

I share your pain... *__*


I've often found that scowling or glaring at them sternly usually works to get rid of them. If that doesn't work then you can always appeal to their paranoia and vanity by looking at them in a slightly puzzled manner for a minute or so (try and make it look as though you're trying to work out exactly what the object on her shoulders is), then laughing long and loud whilst walking away.

This tactic is guaranteed to freak any girl as they will automatically think that there's something wrong with their hair/make up/clothes/etc, and will wonder how many of their "friends" have noticed their error and allowed them to wander around as a laughing stock.

Oh, and that technique works for women of any age. Give a try yourself :)
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In my opinion the books were entertaining, not intellectually stimulating mind you, but entertaining. It's like one of those movies you go to get a laugh out of but that's it. You're not expecting a life changing experience that will change your views on the world, you just wanna laugh the snot out of your nose.

I'm a romantic sap so the books provided me with a sufficient dose of "I'll love you until the end of time" nonsense, and I believe that's all they're really useful for.

Epic romance? No. Sappy drama, dripping with teenage angst, ready to fill any hopeless romantic's heart? You bet ya.
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subjective huh? =P


Yes actually views are quite subjective as they should be. Really now Twilight does not appeal to the masses, it appeals to lonely teenage girls, how Stephanie Meyer was able to write such trash? Well she has the mentality of a lonely teenage girl and wrote the whole story based off "an amazing dream". And it only makes sense for the lonely teenage girls to fall in love with this story, more over the character of Edward rather than the book itself.
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I don't like Twilight, have never read it, don't plan to pay to watch the movie, but as long as the books are getting kids/teens who normally wouldn't touch a book unless it was for class to read, I say all power to it. Hopefully those who do will move on to better things, but if Twilight can be the gateway book to more people reading then that's a good thing, isn't it?
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I don't like Twilight, have never read it, don't plan to pay to watch the movie, but as long as the books are getting kids/teens who normally wouldn't touch a book unless it was for class to read, I say all power to it. Hopefully those who do will move on to better things, but if Twilight can be the gateway book to more people reading then that's a good thing, isn't it?


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Drybananna said:
& don't get me started with the fangirls. The one's at school, they try to kill me with their eyes, harassment, imo.


Lol god, this is embarrassing to admit but a few of my friends are fan girls of Twilight. This is the severity of it: my one friend had a dream the other night I was dating the lead character from the book, right. Edward Cullen. And she woke up bawling her eyes out and was furious at me. I was like, are you serious. It was only a dream. Get over it.

MotokoAramaki said:
I don't like Twilight, have never read it, don't plan to pay to watch the movie, but as long as the books are getting kids/teens who normally wouldn't touch a book unless it was for class to read, I say all power to it. Hopefully those who do will move on to better things, but if Twilight can be the gateway book to more people reading then that's a good thing, isn't it?


I don't know man, maybe if they branch off from Twilight and discover real literature out there in the world, but I find this unlikely to happen. They'll probably go off and read Twilight fan fiction on the internet instead.
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Drybananna said:
& don't get me started with the fangirls. The one's at school, they try to kill me with their eyes, harassment, imo.


Lol god, this is embarrassing to admit but a few of my friends are fan girls of Twilight. This is the severity of it: my one friend had a dream the other night I was dating the lead character from the book, right. Edward Cullen. And she woke up bawling her eyes out and was furious at me. I was like, are you serious. It was only a dream. Get over it.

MotokoAramaki said:
I don't like Twilight, have never read it, don't plan to pay to watch the movie, but as long as the books are getting kids/teens who normally wouldn't touch a book unless it was for class to read, I say all power to it. Hopefully those who do will move on to better things, but if Twilight can be the gateway book to more people reading then that's a good thing, isn't it?


I don't know man, maybe if they branch off from Twilight and discover real literature out there in the world, but I find this unlikely to happen. They'll probably go off and read Twilight fan fiction on the internet instead.


You should have played along just to piss her off.
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I think it could have been better. I wanted more action rather than romance but I guess that's just what Twilight is all about. When I got back from seeing it my dad asked if it was as good as Interview With The Vampire and I was like "Hell no." XD
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I work at a cinema and so I got to preview Twilight yesterday with a friend.
I get to work all day tomorrow when it is finally officially released in the UK and so will face the legion of Twilight fangirls :P

I enjoyed the movie. For once they stuck pretty close to the book, and I thought 95% of the casting was spot on.
It is a movie much like the book - not a masterpiece but still entertaining for its target audience.

Good stuff.

I wish the same could be said about movies based on anime... I mean, have you seen the Dragonball trailer yet?

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so you guys don't like chicks flicks? =P
Bridget Jones > Twilight.

Is there really any competition?
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Twilight is one of those books I find a guilty pleasure. The plot is enjoyable...Meyer's writing skills, or lack thereof...not so much. I could only read up to New Moon because if I had to read another sentence pertaining to Edward's cold/hard/granite skin or topaz eyes one more time, I was about to throw the book out. Or the phrase, "The smile did not reach his eyes." Yeah, that came up waaaay too many times for my liking.

Now, my friends aren't exactly avid readers of the series, but they're in love with Robert, so of course I was dragged to the movies with them, haha. I have to say, it was better than I thought but some moments were just...laughable...

Like, the part where he reveals why he can't go out in the sun (bwahhaa, vampires sparkle!) and it didn't look like...anything spectacular, lol. I was thinking, "O wait...no that's not sweat, he's sparkling." And some of the lines were really corny (some were badly delievered, and I kinda expected that).

Did anyone else notice during one part in the movie, where Edward's driving off and he glares at Jacob's dad that Jacob's dad is in the driver's seat, obviously operating the vehicle...even though he can't walk... I mentioned this to my friends, and they say I pick things apart too much, haha.
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arturo said:
cabbit-chan said:
For once they stuck pretty close to the book, and I thought 95% of the casting was spot on.

So the book is that bad.


It really is. Here's an excerpt:

"Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface. He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare. His glistening, pale lavender lids were shut, though of course he didn’t sleep. A perfect statue, carved in some unknown stone, smooth like marble, glittering like crystal."

I had some good laughs trying to read this book. The movie was actually a little better in comparison. At least to me anyways. Not having to listen to Bella's inner monologue might have had something to do with it. I got some chuckles from the movie too in all honesty. The scene with Edward wearing those ray-bans was hilarious.
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I saw it, and LOVED it XD

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I enjoyed Twilight when I read it very much. It was the first book I read that I actually read and didn’t fall asleep. I actually wanted to read more. And thanks to it I became a reader. I have branched off and enjoy pretty much everything.

I can understand where people are coming from when they say her writing is horrible. I read a few books that people classified as ‘great’ because I didn’t want to be one of those Twilighters who remained ignorant to what others thought and felt. I can understand where you all come from when you say it is horrible and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am not saying it is great but it is the reason I like reading and I give it credit for that. When I re-read it I still enjoy it.

Also, I feel everyone’s pain when it comes to the fan girls. Once the movie came out, my entire school went insane and that was just over the movie. Now they’re all reading the books and I can’t help but laugh when I hear someone say OMC! Because when I did that last year at random they all thought I had lost my mind. (I was one of the first people to read it in my school.)

And to answer the question that started this forum. Yes I am lame; I saw the movie at midnight the day it came out. I thoroughly enjoyed it but can honestly say that if Robert Pattinson came back in New Moon and made Edward British I wouldn’t mind.
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LucySky said:
arturo said:
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For once they stuck pretty close to the book, and I thought 95% of the casting was spot on.

So the book is that bad.


It really is. Here's an excerpt:

"Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface. He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare. His glistening, pale lavender lids were shut, though of course he didn’t sleep. A perfect statue, carved in some unknown stone, smooth like marble, glittering like crystal."

I had some good laughs trying to read this book. The movie was actually a little better in comparison. At least to me anyways. Not having to listen to Bella's inner monologue might have had something to do with it. I got some chuckles from the movie too in all honesty. The scene with Edward wearing those ray-bans was hilarious.


See what I mean about it being a cheesy Mills & Boon romance. Thankfully I won't be subjected to the movie (but I may use it as a punishment for those who cross me as I can see it working better than water torture - BWAHAHAHA!).

I'll admit that the books are a good thing as they probably will get people reading. Unfortunately, if this is the first book you read that you classify as real literature (which it ain't), and you enjoy (personally I'd rather have my nipples wired to the mains and be beaten with a knotted rope than read the book again), then you're tastes are pretty much set. You'll automatically look for books that have a similar theme (which is why bookstores have had a recent surge in the sales of Buffy and Angel books, and the various Anne Rice efforts).

The funny part about all this vampire fanaticism is that there won't be a single fan who'll actually bother finding out where the vampire mythos began (i.e. the concept that ultimately gave Stoker his idea for Dracula - and no, I don't mean Vlad Tepes, but rather the books written by Sheridan le Fanu and John Polidori, both of whom heavily influenced Stoker's writing - also, Stoker was further influenced by the stories and legends surrounding Elizabeth Bathory, and only touched lightly on Vlad Tepes). The whole idea of the vampire in modern terms isn't really a gothic concept but a romantic one, which is why people like Meyer can get away with writing crap (all's fair in love and war, after all).

I'd love to see someone utilising the original concept of the vampire - the one where they're more about stealing life through dreams rather than drinking blood. The only person I know of who's actually used that idea in a story is Charles de Lint.

Tis such a shame that all of these would be authors never really bother coming up with their own, original ideas, but feel happy to call themselves "artists" when all they've done is take a tired concept that most ofus are sick of, re-jigged it a little, given it a little polish, and sold it to the stupid and the desperate.

But hey, if J.K. Rowling and Stephanie Meyer can make a mint off things like that, then maybe we should all write our own crappy books and try to pass them off as "literature". You never know, we could all get rich :)
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Archaeon said:
LucySky said:
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For once they stuck pretty close to the book, and I thought 95% of the casting was spot on.

So the book is that bad.


It really is. Here's an excerpt:

"Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface. He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare. His glistening, pale lavender lids were shut, though of course he didn’t sleep. A perfect statue, carved in some unknown stone, smooth like marble, glittering like crystal."

I had some good laughs trying to read this book. The movie was actually a little better in comparison. At least to me anyways. Not having to listen to Bella's inner monologue might have had something to do with it. I got some chuckles from the movie too in all honesty. The scene with Edward wearing those ray-bans was hilarious.


See what I mean about it being a cheesy Mills & Boon romance. Thankfully I won't be subjected to the movie (but I may use it as a punishment for those who cross me as I can see it working better than water torture - BWAHAHAHA!).

I'll admit that the books are a good thing as they probably will get people reading. Unfortunately, if this is the first book you read that you classify as real literature (which it ain't), and you enjoy (personally I'd rather have my nipples wired to the mains and be beaten with a knotted rope than read the book again), then you're tastes are pretty much set. You'll automatically look for books that have a similar theme (which is why bookstores have had a recent surge in the sales of Buffy and Angel books, and the various Anne Rice efforts).

The funny part about all this vampire fanaticism is that there won't be a single fan who'll actually bother finding out where the vampire mythos began (i.e. the concept that ultimately gave Stoker his idea for Dracula - and no, I don't mean Vlad Tepes, but rather the books written by Sheridan le Fanu and John Polidori, both of whom heavily influenced Stoker's writing - also, Stoker was further influenced by the stories and legends surrounding Elizabeth Bathory, and only touched lightly on Vlad Tepes). The whole idea of the vampire in modern terms isn't really a gothic concept but a romantic one, which is why people like Meyer can get away with writing crap (all's fair in love and war, after all).

I'd love to see someone utilising the original concept of the vampire - the one where they're more about stealing life through dreams rather than drinking blood. The only person I know of who's actually used that idea in a story is Charles de Lint.

Tis such a shame that all of these would be authors never really bother coming up with their own, original ideas, but feel happy to call themselves "artists" when all they've done is take a tired concept that most ofus are sick of, re-jigged it a little, given it a little polish, and sold it to the stupid and the desperate.

But hey, if J.K. Rowling and Stephanie Meyer can make a mint off things like that, then maybe we should all write our own crappy books and try to pass them off as "literature". You never know, we could all get rich :)


Stephanie Meyer did come up with something original. Sparkly vampires that make everybody laugh at how stupid that is. :P
Dec 20, 2008 12:31 AM

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It looks and sounds more boring and unoriginal that it's so called similar counterpart Harry Potter.

Honestly, Vampires are so freaking overdone and in ways that are absolutely uninteresting. I love "Fantasy", Mythology based stuff. But God, give Vlad a rest.

Not enough black hooded, lantern carrying Wights for my tastes. I personally find Wraiths more interesting than any old Vampire.

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nicolexcullen literally summed everything I thought about in that post. The only thing I would add, agreeing with LucySky here, Bella can annoy the living hell out of me. MidnightSun, the book in Edward's point of view...I can probably love Bella in that perspective. Definately.

I understand completely though why people don't like it either. I do thank the book for getting me into "reading". Yay! Being on topic here, I really liked the movie. Casting was sweet. Alice...oh my darling Alice, you're too cute <3
Dec 30, 2008 2:46 PM

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I really loved the movie! Many people I've talked to said that they didn't like it because it wasn't exactly like the book... but all I can say is that movies based on books are adaptations, so of course this movie wouldn't be the exception.
Robert Pattinson was BRILLIANT! Though, I didn't like Kirsten's Bella, as I predicted -__-'.
Anyways, I enjoyed it a lot, and I'm glad I saw it. =)


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The movie was bad. The acting sucked, and the actor playing the main character (Bella, the girl) wouldn't shut her gaping fish mouth. I didn't really expect greatness out of it though, so I'm not disappointed.

I stopped reading the books because Bella's too annoying... I couldn't even finish the first book because I hated her so much. x_x The crazed fangirls at my school scare me, so I just keep my mouth shut... But hey, everyone can like whatever the heck the want, I suppose. ^^"
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LucySky said:
arturo said:
cabbit-chan said:
For once they stuck pretty close to the book, and I thought 95% of the casting was spot on.

So the book is that bad.


It really is. Here's an excerpt:

"Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface. He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare. His glistening, pale lavender lids were shut, though of course he didn’t sleep. A perfect statue, carved in some unknown stone, smooth like marble, glittering like crystal."

I had some good laughs trying to read this book. The movie was actually a little better in comparison. At least to me anyways. Not having to listen to Bella's inner monologue might have had something to do with it. I got some chuckles from the movie too in all honesty. The scene with Edward wearing those ray-bans was hilarious.


Oh God NO...

If that's what the writing is like, then I shall never be able to read it. It reads like absolute drivel. The story can't make up for what is basically badly written fanfic...

And I refuse to watch the movie on the sole basis of the fangirls.
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For the love of almighty Agnostico, when will you people learn that if you keep watching this crap they will keep making it. An infinite cycle of Crappy CRAP!
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deathangel521 said:
For the love of almighty Agnostico, when will you people learn that if you keep watching this crap they will keep making it. An infinite cycle of Crappy CRAP!


Oh it's more than crap. It's shit. Shitty shit.
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Jan 5, 2009 8:41 PM

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I'll just say it was crap! It sucked and everyone else i know who saw it said it was crap!
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Twilight for teenage girls is what Eragon is like for teenage boys. Subpar litearature(at best) that might be marginally interesting to a thoughtless 13 year old who doesn't know much about literature.
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