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Dec 12, 2012 3:19 PM

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I really can't see why some people hated this episode. What's to hate? In fact I think it is one of the best episodes by far. The voice acting was quite something and I even became teary. It was so heart breaking to see Rikka let it all go and become a normal girl even though she didn't want to because her Chuunibyou syndrome comforted her from her family drama. Some people are not getting this and think that Yuuta is trying to take away her "hobby" cause he's an ass, lol no, for one it's not really a hobby it's kind of distraction from reality. A comfort. I think Yuuta was being too much of a 'helping the situation realistically' guy instead of actually comforting the one he loves by giving her an explanation and understanding. Dekomori made my heart melt, the poor girl. Also, I'm hoping what she said to Yuuta at the train station hit him hard, pretty much saying that Rikka had felt let down. I love this show. So sad it's coming to an end. Kyoto animation always makes it double amazing because of their smooth and beautiful animation, like Hyouka. Can't wait for their new series in January!
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I didn't like this episode at all. Chu2Koi has never handled its drama well and this episode just cemented that for me.

Also, the ED song feels really out of place.
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Dec 12, 2012 3:22 PM

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This was so heart-wrecking, it's so sad to see Sanae losing everything and not being able to do anything about it. Yuuta really didn't handle that very well, but I still loved the scene. Best episode so far, especially the soundtrack.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:24 PM
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oh man, this episodes. You can literally feel the emotions pouring out of the screen. Not just dekomori's, but Yuuta, Rikka and even Shinka's as well.

At the same time, it feels like only Dekomori and Shinka truly understand what is actually going on...since both Rikka and Yuuta are doing things for other people's sake- and not by their desire.

Notice how Rikka only say "mama will be happy if I do..."
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:25 PM

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OMG. This episode was just full of drama. I thought KyoAni managed to handle that pretty well. What made this episode worked was probably Dekomori and how she's trying to handle the whole Post-Chuunibyou Rikka situation. Man, Uesaka-san's voice acting was perfect. You can feel Dekomori's sadness in her voice. :'(
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:26 PM
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What the? That was way too depressing and Dekomori was way too dramatic. I honestly didn't get it at all. Although I did enjoy the part where she makes new friends.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:27 PM

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I miss the old Rikka tbh. But anyways, emotional episode for Sanae and Yuuta especially. Hope this series wraps up in a fun way cause that was depressing in my book.

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Dec 12, 2012 3:30 PM
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Wow.... this episode was so damn boring. Everything started going downhill after the beach episode. All this drama is getting on my nerves. Hell, they made Dekomori cry. Made me wanna beat the death out of Yuuta. Right now, Rikka and Yuuta are everything that I hate about this show. Pity, it started so well =(
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:31 PM

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Ahhh I loved it when Mori Summer told dekomori that it was okay and hugged her, that was some great character devolpment.

Yuuta shouldnt have told her to go but he kinda had to? I think Rikka needed to do this for herself

That last 5 minutes were so sad. I felt really bad for dekomori

Cant believe its ending next week D:

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Dec 12, 2012 3:33 PM
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i'm gonna cry
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:35 PM

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I don't think the drama itself was bad, but it just feels so out of place in a show like this. Chuu2 isn't supposed to be Toradora. It's a comedy series with a heartwarming romantic element between Yuuta and Rikka. Some drama is fine (and they already did that and handled it just fine earlier) but now it's just depression and people screaming at each other.

I dunno. Hopefully the last episode redeems this one.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:38 PM

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Wow... That was one powerful episode. Chuu2 to have this much drama was very unexpected. Granted that some of the comedic elements were there that was too much of your usual Chuu2. All the scenes were so emotional that manly tears can arise. That change with Rikka was rather extreme, just like Shinka said. Dekomori found it hard to accept the change. And possible us the audience did too.

Oh well, last episode next week... Don't know how that's going to turn out
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:40 PM
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Not that it made me happy, but I liked it. I hope things don't end this way for those kids, not because this is a fictional story, but because Real Life should never be Black and White.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:45 PM

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Too much drama this episode. I expected way better, especially after the amazing 10th episode.
First half was actually really good, I liked the new Rikka. Second half was just trying too hard. Still fairly enjoyable though.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:50 PM

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I did cry
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:51 PM

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Hmm, only me who didn't got effected by the drama?

Like many others, I know reality well. Sure it might suck but you just have to accept it, living in a damn dreamworld won't benefit anyone or make it any better.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:53 PM

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I don't get why people are being thrown off by how dramatic this episode was. After all, we're nearing the end of the series, and there's only one episode left, so this is not unexpected. Also this is probably the only episode that was purely drama, not to mention it's not completely out of context to the rest of the show, so I don't see how this is out of place.

Although, while I still like this episode, this might be a little pushing it, and I can kinda see how this will probably resolve itself, but then again, this episode didn't quite go the way I expected it to either, and there were some pretty strong moments here, too, so I'm looking forward to seeing how this will end.
 
Dec 12, 2012 3:55 PM

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Nibutani again, was absolutely perfect.

On the other hand, this episode by itself felt rather forced and awkward. The drama surrounding Rikka's backstory always felt out of place in a show that initially appealed due to its comedic nature. Add to that, being able to relate to our childhood.

I hope next week wraps it all up well...
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Dec 12, 2012 3:56 PM
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I really don't know what to think of this episode. i think yuuta is being an asshole not asking rikka what she is feeling like forcing her to come to real life so shockingly is a good thing.

also, since the beginning i always thought that both yuuta and rikka would go to a sort of half point between chuunism and real life. with yuuta regressing and rikka progressing. but that isn't what seems to be happening.
 
Dec 12, 2012 4:00 PM

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Gu3rrit0 said:
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i'm gonna cry

I did cry
i already cried

 
Dec 12, 2012 4:01 PM

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My god. That drama. Wow. But seriously, relate this episode to the real world, Yuuta is struggling between decisions, what makes Rikka temporary happy and what is best for her. Really, her Chuunibyou needs to be fixed and she needs to come to terms with reality. She needs to accept her fathers death and rebuild her relationship with her mother, this obviously is causing a lot of pain, for Rikka, Yuuta and even Dekomori. It wont be easy but is the best and most sensible path and needs to be accomplished before it's too late.. If her Chuunibyou carries on much longer, more pain will be had.

On the otherhand he could pretend to not realize this and tell her that having Chuunibyou is okay, she doesn't need to accept her fathers death and her mother and sister are evil. This is a temporary fix, but will make Rikka happy for the present time. Would keeping her happy for a short amount of time by telling her it is alright to put off accepting reality, really be the best option? This option could cause a lot more pain down the track. Ask yourself, if you were in his shoes, which path would be best? It's a very hard and important decision, don't make light of it.
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Dec 12, 2012 4:02 PM

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I can clearly see why KyoAni adapted this light novel now, the idea and plot of this story is really complex and unique both for the comedy and drama elements QwQ

 
Dec 12, 2012 4:04 PM

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Dem feels. Dekomori T^T

The last scene really got me when she said "I know that!". Damn Yuuta forcing his NO FUN ALLOWED allowed shit on them. I hope this nigga redeems himself in the last episode.
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Dec 12, 2012 4:11 PM
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Reality can hit anyone hard just like a brick.
 
Dec 12, 2012 4:14 PM
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Depressing, depressing as all hell. Poor Dekomori.
A touch I loved honestly is how the art didn't seem nearly as colourful and bright as previous episodes being more plain and realistic which goes along perfectly with the tone of the episode.
I hate to be on Yuuta's side here but I do think what he is doing is for the best, for him and for Rikka. She needs to grow up and face reality, which is what she is finally doing and if the show is going to make Rikka a chuunibyou again I defanitly think that would be a major, major step backwards.

5/5 episode. Hope this show has and ending good enough to live up to the high standards set by the rest of the series.
 
Dec 12, 2012 4:16 PM
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Dec 12, 2012 4:16 PM
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All i gotta say is, WOW.
My view for this anime has been completely and significantly changed. I didn't expect the drama in the last couple of episode to get so oppressive. One more episode to go.
 
Dec 12, 2012 4:19 PM

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Wow that drama was really intense in this episode. Dekomori crying was really sad. Seeing Rikka so despressed throughout the episode isn't really that uplifting to. The worst part is that the awesome dialogues between Rikka and Yuuta are in the past. Now their conversations are rather boring. So I hope that Rikka turn back to herself in the next episode (which is most likely going to happen) But I hope she'll find a good balance between real life and her fantasy.

Rikka attempt to finally make some friends in her class was cute though just like the scene where Nibutani was comforting Dekomori. I hope that the next episode is going to bring an awesome ending to this delightfull series.
 
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It's gonna be interesting to see how Yuuta will figure this all out in the next episode.
Hopefully the ending won't be so dramaish and more happy. I think we can expect more Chuunibyou again...

I hated Dekomori, but,those scenes with her...
 
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Dec 12, 2012 4:21 PM

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Accepting reality is a hard thing to do especially if you were in Rikka's shoes. Nobody told her that the father was dying and his death came too suddenly which put Rikka into shock. How do you expect to accept that cruel reality where no one tried to support her? This episode was drama packed and by the looks of it. KyoAni will not animate a kiss-scene. *Sadface* Well I hope Yuuta and Rikka reaffirm their love in the last episode.
 
Dec 12, 2012 4:24 PM
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I really can't see why some people hated this episode. What's to hate? In fact I think it is one of the best episodes by far. The voice acting was quite something and I even became teary. It was so heart breaking to see Rikka let it all go and become a normal girl even though she didn't want to. I think Yuuta was being too much of a 'helping the situation realistically' guy instead of actually comforting the one he loves by giving her an explanation and understanding. Dekomori made my heart melt, the poor girl. Also, I'm hoping what she said to Yuuta at the train station hit him hard, pretty much saying that Rikka had felt let down. I love this show. So sad it's coming to an end. Kyoto animation always makes it double amazing because of their smooth and beautiful animation, like Hyouka. Can't wait for their new series in January!

Lots of people don't like it when anime depresses them it seems, I don't see why but apparantly being emotional is a bad thing in anime now.
I actually don't know how people didn't see this coming, I saw the show for what it was going to become ages ago, the moral of the show is basically: Reality sucks, but we just have to accept it and move on with our lives.
 
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Did not expect so much drama from this show, so good. I don't really understand why people didn't like it, maybe because of how much of a drastic change it was from comedy to drama? I like though, the whole theme of growing up and accepting the past.

Anyone else feel like Dekomori has a reason behind having chuunibyou herself, such as Rikka losing her father? It seemed like she does to me, with how big of an emotional reaction she had at the end there, thought I could be wrong.
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Dec 12, 2012 4:34 PM
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My god. That drama. Wow. But seriously, relate this episode to the real world, Yuuta is struggling between decisions, what makes Rikka temporary happy and what is best for her. Really, her Chuunibyou needs to be fixed and she needs to come to terms with reality. She needs to accept her fathers death and rebuild her relationship with her mother, this obviously is causing a lot of pain, for Rikka, Yuuta and even Dekomori. It wont be easy but is the best and most sensible path and needs to be accomplished before it's too late.. If her Chuunibyou carries on much longer, more pain will be had.

On the otherhand he could pretend to not realize this and tell her that having Chuunibyou is okay, she doesn't need to accept her fathers death and her mother and sister are evil. This is a temporary fix, but will make Rikka happy for the present time. Would keeping her happy for a short amount of time by telling her it is alright to put off accepting reality, really be the best option? This option could cause a lot more pain down the track. Ask yourself, if you were in his shoes, which path would be best? It's a very hard and important decision, don't make light of it.


finally someone on here gets that besides me...was a bit surprised about that, although like someone else said before, her goin to the grave is a good thing, but he should of told her to go there for herself, not for her mom. felt bad for dekomori at the end when he took everything out on her basically tho lol
 
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omg yuuta total dick. dekomori ;_______; all my want was to hug her
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I really can't see why some people hated this episode. What's to hate? In fact I think it is one of the best episodes by far. The voice acting was quite something and I even became teary. It was so heart breaking to see Rikka let it all go and become a normal girl even though she didn't want to. I think Yuuta was being too much of a 'helping the situation realistically' guy instead of actually comforting the one he loves by giving her an explanation and understanding. Dekomori made my heart melt, the poor girl. Also, I'm hoping what she said to Yuuta at the train station hit him hard, pretty much saying that Rikka had felt let down. I love this show. So sad it's coming to an end. Kyoto animation always makes it double amazing because of their smooth and beautiful animation, like Hyouka. Can't wait for their new series in January!


I haven't really enjoyed this show to begin with, but it started to get good around episode 7. Then this episode comes in and just suffocates me with wallbangage. I actually had to stop and make sure I was watching the right episode, because it started out so baffling. Rikka's sister showing her human side all of a sudden? Rikka and her sister on seemingly good terms? So it just happened off-screen?

And as you mentioned, Yuuta trying to force Rikka to change without an ounce of consideration toward her happiness. It's like dragging an agoraphobic into a crowded mall and telling them they can't come home until they get over it.

Yuuta had done such a good job slowly working Rikka out of it, making her happy, the two became a couple and then all of a sudden he just decides to rip the eyepatch off of her and force her to change. And why? So a woman who abandoned her family and didn't tell Rikka about her father's condition won't worry. It would have made more sense for Rikka to stay at Yuuta's place most of the time, and continue gradually opening her out of her shell.
 
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I think people are too quick to say that this episode was "overly dramatic." The music and tone of the episode help set that, but the one thing that made the episode close to dramatic was dekomori's voice actress (kudos to her VA for pulling out the episode with so much emotion).

It can go two ways from here. Either they resolve this and give a happy/heartwarming ending or just make it even more depressing. Directing wise, they have the perfect setup. A good amount of the people who've watched this episode still loved it and can't wait while a decent chunk are disappointed at the melodrama detour. Also, I hesitate to even label it as drama since it's just reality laid out to those not used to dealing with it. If they can execute the last episode in the correct manner, both those who still love it and those who didn't like this episode would probably love the final episode. (although i'm in no position to assume the opinions of many)

Personally, thought this episode was excellent. Not as good as eps 10 or 9, but I have faith that they'll find a way to get the most out of the series.
 
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Good job there, Kyo Ani, their reputation isn't for show, the word "moeblob" shouldn't even exist when mentioning about Kyo Ani. One of many strong points about Kyo Ani is that they are able to deliver the character's feelings to the audience, they make us feel like we're a part of it.

And, what can I say? Reality is harsh to accept, it happens to all of us. You got stressed over works, studies, relationships, sometimes you just want to get them out of your mind. I get Rikka, Dekomori feelings this episode. Only one last ep. Hope they won't make the bad end, where Rikka won't return.
 
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I don't really understand the hate for Yuuta in this episode to be honest. Yes he was a bit blunt, but it's something both Rikka and Dekomori need to come to terms with. Their fantasy world isn't real, there's no getting around that. He did a lot to help out Touka and the situation with their mother, so I don't think it's fair for him to be labelled an asshole just because Rikka and Dekomori are struggling to come to terms with reality.
 
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Well wow tone of this episode was quite different had a lot of unexpected moments mainly the hugging, and for once it kinda got to me mainly Dekomori crying was hard watching her try and fight

Still there's two very hard ways of helping Rikka personally i think facing reality is the better choice in the long run.
 
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So much sadness on such a happy anime D: I especially felt bad for Dekomori because she was pretty much abandoned, to the point where Nibutani had to be the one to comfort her (even though i feel like they could be best friends) It is obvious that Rikka is forcing herself, so is Yuuta, but im so curious how this is going to conclude. With Rikka going to her fathers grave, im wondering how she is going to be able to take it. How everything will be solved or resolved. I love this anime to death, it has made me extremely happy to watch, and now the conclusion comes ;_;

Point is, im ready for whatever happens next episode and welcome it with open arms :3
 
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A great episode indeed - quite possibly the best one of the whole anime.I was worried that KyoAni and the authors would hold back the drama and return the first episode's light and carefree mood. I'm glad I was wrong to concern about that.

I don't want the ending to be a bad or a sad one, but I also hope that Rikka & Dekomori will learn to face reality without losing completely their will to dream and fantasize.My "ideal" ending is one where Rikka accepts her father's death and overcomes the syndrome, but still keeps using her imagination at a lesser degree to face what life has in store for her.Will the writers grant my wish ?

At any rate, just that very moment where Dekomori runs away crying "I KNOW!!" made this anime worth watching.Manly tears were almost shed.
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Dec 12, 2012 4:49 PM

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man, this episode was just so damn depressing... :(

especially dekomori, her breakdown was just so damn sad to watch. she only wanted to bring back her "master", which also meant bringing back rikka to her REAL self
watching her crying and forced to admit that her fantasies werent "real" was just heartbreaking

i hate to say it, but yuuta was a horrible jackass this episode (although most of my hatred is still aimed at touka)
the way he forced "reality" on dekomori was just fucked up, and he even knew that

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Only one last ep. Hope they won't make the bad end, where Rikka won't return.

Oh God.
I can't even imagine this show ending like that.
Don't even joke about that kind of thing.
Gah
Now I'm scared ;_;

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Reality can hit anyone hard just like a brick.
And sometimes it hits like the pavement after a six stories fall XD

Some people can't get up again after that.

If you're going down to reality from a great heigh, it's better to take the stairs than to jump right off.
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I think this is a better implementation of drama, less forced and goes with the flow of the story.

I shed tears and I'm not afraid to say it. Such a saddening turn of events but so real and close to home... ;_;
 
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Still there's two very hard ways of helping Rikka personally i think facing reality is the better choice in the long run.


I think that changing more slowly would be better for her psychological wellness. It's still choosing the harsh reality option, but it gives her the time to reflect. I think that's the only problem, she was so rushed to changing.

They were trying a bit too hard, as Nibutani said.

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i hate to say it, but yuuta was a horrible jackass this episode (although most of my hatred is still aimed at touka)
the way he forced "reality" on dekomori was just fucked up, and he even knew that


THIS.
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KyoAni...
I've said it in the past
I'll say it again...

I fucking love you.

The angles, the lighting, my god they're good at making a scene look sad.

(refering to Nibutani dragging Dekomori outside and console her) How much Dekomori struggles to get back to Rikka, and Nibutani pulling her back like a mean adult... That scene was legit as hell! KyoAni have never strike me as a lazy animation company, but in this series, they really outdid themselves.

The voice acting is really top notch, very good job by all 3 novice VA, Rikka(Uchida Maaya), Sanae(Sumire Uesaka) and Shinka(Akasaki Chinatsu). May their career get a sudden boost because of this work. Of course, the veteran Fukuyama Jun also did well.


EDIT: I wonder how this show will ends... 1 episode left.

EDIT: I got a feeling that Rikka is not coming back... And Yuuta will go all the way to her hometown to bring her back, in his Dark Flame Master Persona....
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i hate to say it, but yuuta was a horrible jackass this episode (although most of my hatred is still aimed at touka)
the way he forced "reality" on dekomori was just fucked up, and he even knew that


People tend to say things they didn't mean on either impulse or at the spur of the moment... So I don't blame Yuuta at all, from my view it seems he's trying to be responsible but it backfired on him. Then dekomori plucked out Yuuta's faults in his way of doing things causing him to say things he didn't want to since he was still not completely sure as to what he is doing is right, yet he wants to think what he's doing is actually right

 
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Crap. Reality does really suck.

Where is that bucket of ice cream, I need to console myself after that episode.
 
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