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reve said: Scoops said: Yumekichi11 said: Im honestly not sure what you're trying to say, but lets put it like this: What would you have done at the point that she found out? Let me add: considering you have your beloved trapped by crazy fucker in VRMMO and you just confirmed it. lol'd Could be that Yumekichi11 just likes Sugu more than Asuna. |
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Scoops said: Call Recon and her other friends to do some sort of outing. Break the ice and make things clearer.Yumekichi11 said: I’m honestly not sure what you're trying to say, but lets put it like this: What would you have done at the point that she found out? Fai said: I can't agree with that. Cause there is a saying "What does not kill you makes you stronger" based on that alone what you are saying is that Kirito is at fault for not getting stronger psychologically after SAO happened.Yumekichi11 said: I can't agree with you. Despite trying his best as such you outline, it clearly is not enough and far far satisfactory. Clearly his shaking up goes back to his inability to reason with his psyche. But then again no one can blame him on that one. It's all the SAO trauma fault. That being said, he instead should have showed some remarkable changes in his psyche. That of being through all made him stronger. Whom to me it looks like he is either still weak from the SAO stuff and never recovered from it truly or he failed to impress many on the NORMAL level and not VR wise. Dude still has habits from SAO(putting up the sword) and is disconnected(no pun intended) from real world. Two years of near-death experiences like SAO are not something you just erase and it changes how you are. And no, its not about "making you stronger" - its about being damaged. Fai said: Yet she did nothing to make her feel better nor think of anything. Surely he could have easily talked things over instead grinding his teeth like a sore loser and really just being incapacitated by all this.And even if whole SAO never happened, the whole confession would still get same reaction - there's nothing he could say that could be of ANY use in that situation and being angry at her would do nothing too. He did not do anything wrong, he did not take advantage of her, nor try to, nor ever show any sort of indication of that kind of love towards Suguha. Fai said: No I can't really agree with this either. Suguha's psyche is not responsible but her mindset of being sure of her guy in the VR world. That backfired chemically into the synapses literally inducing a gloom of rather depressing levels whom if not calmed down will amend to a permanent scarring. Most likely less nice person would be one of them.if anything Suguha suffers a bit from the whole "nice guy syndrome" (well or in this case "nice girl), which is not that different from other known characters like Sayaka from Madoka. Its not Kirito's fault and (in this case) its not even her fault, so all one can do in this situation is to let her cry her feelings out, which is what Kirito is doing. Fai said: WRONG! He could have certainly make things clear and ask her of a solution whom would probably bad so it goes back to what you are saying. However my point of making things clear made have created a realization there. That could have helped and deviate from the current realization she has that of finding out the truth about him.There's nothing he can do that would NOT make matters worse OR give her false hope. reve said: Well that goes back to Kirito's psyche being weak.Scoops said: Yumekichi11 said: Im honestly not sure what you're trying to say, but lets put it like this: What would you have done at the point that she found out? Let me add: considering you have your beloved trapped by crazy fucker in VRMMO and you just confirmed it. |
Takuan_Soho said: amginex said: NettoAzure said: Ah it's pretty crazy how Kirito does such a crazy thing when entire armies can't even do it. xD hahaha that ability is only for shounen heroes lol nice battle scene in this epi, sucks for the brocon-sis im piqued for the next one This should be explained next episode. But if you can't wait: |
Yumekichi11 said: I can't agree with that. Cause there is a saying "What does not kill you makes you stronger" based on that alone what you are saying is that Kirito is at fault for not getting stronger psychologically after SAO happened. There's a reason on why that saying is in a song - because songs are made up stuff. In reality, what does not kill you, usually leaves deep emotional scars, complexes, psychological damage, etc. Yes it hardens you, but does so by damaging you. After all, being repeatedly punched in a gut, after some time you wills become numb to the pain. It makes you be able to handle stuff, but it does not make you better nor more stable person. Kirito did open up more in terms of his social capabilities, but that is actually what made whole situation worse for Sugu. Yumekichi11 said: Yet she did nothing to make her feel better nor think of anything. Surely he could have easily talked things over instead grinding his teeth like a sore loser and really just being incapacitated by all this. He can literally do nothing in this situation. Any POSITIVE kind of emotion from his side would be read as either as acceptance, return of feelings or pity and give hope to Suguha's love, which is not what Kirito wants. Any sort of NEGATIVE kind of emotion from him would count as cold rejection and that's not what Kirito wants, since she is his sister. Also you do not "talk emotions over". That IS an overused anime cliche, but in reality it never works. A couple of words are never enough to fix what is broken. Also let's not forget that this was like hitting a brick wall at full speed for him too, because he did not know about how Sugu feels. Considering that he still handled the situation with consideration to Sugu's emotional state, instead of focusing on himself. Yumekichi11 said: No I can't really agree with this either. Suguha's psyche is not responsible but her mindset of being sure of her guy in the VR world. That backfired chemically into the synapses literally inducing a gloom of rather depressing levels whom if not calmed down will amend to a permanent scarring. Most likely less nice person would be one of them. And this does not seem to have an actual point, minus the argumentation. What I meant: Kirito is not obliged to respond to her feelings. Suguha is not guilty for having those feelings. Yumekichi11 said: WRONG! He could have certainly make things clear and ask her of a solution whom would probably bad so it goes back to what you are saying. However my point of making things clear made have created a realization there. That could have helped and deviate from the current realization she has that of finding out the truth about him. Making things clear? In what way? - That he does not love her? Good luck making her understand that in correct manenr, without her interpreting that Kirito does not care about her at all, which would possibly drive her into even deeper state of depression and possibly lead to suicidal tendencies. - That he likes her? good luck making her understand that in correct manner too, because that would in current situation be interpreted as either Kirito taking pity of her or actually having feelings for her, both of which would leave to more blowing up and even less stable Suguha. when someone is having a meltdown like this, you do NOT try to reason with them, especially if you are the cause of the said meltdown. Nothing Kirito would say to "make it all clear", would lead to anything good reve said: Yumekichi11 said: Well that goes back to Kirito's psyche being weak. Well, from the start he was described as unsocial not psychologically strong teen. So one can't expect him to solve flawlessly this pretty fucked up situation ^ THIS. For an anti-social mmo-otaku, who spent 2 years in psychologically damaging and physically crippling life-or-death game, Kirito handled the situation relatively well. |
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| If anything, it's impressive how SAO keeps finding ways to get worse. SAO: reinventing rock bottom. |
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| Lol those robo-guardians were throwing arrows, swords and all kinds of stuff on Kirito to stop him lmao weak ass robots. I was waiting to see dem Angels come down and snap Kirito in seconds, but nothing happened, guess I'll have to wait some more episodes. And yeah that Sugu thing, mah her tears were delicious. |
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| Kirito messed up ... big time. He ignored her when he found out they we're not siblings? When Suguha tells him her feelings all he does is say "I'm sorry." I mean come on. I feel horrible for Suguha she got double rejected. By Kirito in the game and her cousin in real life. It totally sucks. Kirito could have done something else. I feel like he was leading Suguha/Leafa on big time. It pisses me off. Even though I'm still shipping AsunaxKirito, Suguha deserves someone better than him. Even though he acts like "the good guy" I just don't see it. Suguha even started forgetting about liking Kirito when she found out he loved Asuna, but then POW Kirito in the game is actually her brother. /endrant. |
whatever123456 said: RMNDolphy said: If anything, it's impressive how SAO keeps finding ways to get worse. SAO: reinventing rock bottom. Stop pretending the show could do anything you wouldn't complain about. Eh? I wasn't pretending it could. I've been well aware of SAO's complete ineptitude for a long while now. |
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tsubasalover said: The end art, I just realized that the sword is not from SAO (and saw others saying it's from AW) What end art? |
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kpk10 said: Any preview for episode 23 yet? It won't be out till Wednesday at Japan. |
Fai said: aaaaaaaaaaaah white flag man! You know what that means.I still stand by that yeah anime cliche could have worked there or somehow something else might have been done. Kirito calls Recon and maybe he talks to Suguha or bring a close friend that is a girl to her to consolidate her. Could have been lots TBH and yeah Kirito was disappointing for me there. I will stand by those at least. |
Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. |
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EstelleBright said: Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. Meh calling it a train wreck is a bit of stretch. A bit messy in places, but still an enjoyable series mostly. |
| As I predicted on the last episode's forum, Suguha finds out Kirito is actually her brother, or should I say cousin? Well, the episode was nicely animated from the light novel series. The ending line of Kirito saying "Sugu..." was sort of implying that Kirito would have chosen Sugu instead of Asuna. I don't know why I feel that way... I guess it's because Kirito seems to really think about Sugu's feelings after she confessed all that. That's not a bad addition, since it makes him seem like a normal guy (well, in anime terms). The ending art was just fucking beast. Here's the fan service of the week: Re-showing Asuna's naked body. Not really naked, but you would know it's from the supposed "sex" scene. Good episode, not so great but alright. I thought Kirito was kind of going overboard by ignoring Suguha all those years before coming back from SAO. Coming back and being all nice just made Suguha fall even more in love. Suguha may have already liked him ever since they were young. It's not like it's uncommon for siblings to have a bro/siscon thing going on if their sibling was all they can rely on in the past. From what I can tell, Suguha was treated pretty good back when they were kids. When he got older, he found out the truth and started avoiding Sugu. Maybe it's just me, but I think it was because he didn't want to fall in love with Sugu (I wish, LOL). It's most likely due to him not wanting Suguha to find out. It was still cruel, however. |
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EstelleBright said: Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. Highlighted the important part of his sentence. Aka not very high level from what we have seen so far. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Takuan_Soho said: SetsukoHara said: |
BloodRequiem said: EstelleBright said: Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. Highlighted the important part of his sentence. Aka not very high level from what we have seen so far. The ending is pretty normal nothing flashy or epic.Unless you are a big fan of Kirito and co and mmo in general. |
Lurkerkiller said: Pretty intense episode, makes me feel really bad and sad for Suguha. Makes me rethink what I think about Kirito as well. Sure in SAO arc he was an amazingly bad ass character and I loved him as a character then, but recently he hasn't been as bad ass as before. Not only is he losing his badass self from before but he doesn't seem capable of handling any situation that doesn't involve Asuna. Implying that he is capable of handling situations that involve Asuna. |
| No screen time for Sugou, saving the best for last AWYEAHHH. |
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EstelleBright said: No screen time for Sugou, saving the best for last AWYEAHHH. Yeah that's definitely the case.... |
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whatever123456 said: It will be more satisfying for me if they show Shino in a random cameo on the street..Or maybessjokg said: BloodRequiem said: EstelleBright said: Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. Highlighted the important part of his sentence. Aka not very high level from what we have seen so far. The ending is pretty normal nothing flashy or epic.Unless you are a big fan of Kirito and co and mmo in general. Maybe I should stop dreaming... |
| I don't know what to think about this episode. I liked it, but the battle part was a bit too fast, could have been a little bigger. I feel a bit sorry for Sugu, can understand her, but what to do..? I'm exited about what's happening next. 25 episodes are not enough, they could have made this anime much bigger and use the full potential. I loved the anime from the start, and I still love it, but I think the end will suck as hell.. Anyway, let's wait another week. |
whatever123456 said: ssjokg said: It will be more satisfying for me if they show Shino in a random cameo on the street..Or maybe Maybe I should stop dreaming... I'm not really thinking too much about this, a second season is pretty much guaranteed. I don't mind waiting as long as they get a better director or studio for GGO and don't fuck it up. Shinon's development are narration and inner monologues.What could possible go wrong right? |
| Wow. Just..........wow. I swear this anime has almost everything! We went from epic medieval swordplay and virtual reality battling to romantic drama! Gosh, I nearly teared up during that flashback scene where Kirito was reminiscing about Asuna while destroying all of those warrior/robot thingies! Then again when Suguha and Kirito had their little revelation and falling out! How are they gonna get up the World Tree now?! God I love this show! Can't wait to see what happens next! |
| "No matter how much of a genius one is, in front of the Uchiha name, they're just ordinary people." - Sasuke Uchiha |
| the aerial dogfight was nice, and that ending scenes its a fuck up love story |
ssjokg said: whatever123456 said: It will be more satisfying for me if they show Shino in a random cameo on the street..Or maybessjokg said: BloodRequiem said: EstelleBright said: Anyori said: I'm somehow thinking that they are making time with these last 2 episodes, so they can create a big awesome ending, worthy of SAO. What's worthy? This whole series is a train wreck. Highlighted the important part of his sentence. Aka not very high level from what we have seen so far. The ending is pretty normal nothing flashy or epic.Unless you are a big fan of Kirito and co and mmo in general. Maybe I should stop dreaming... They can pull a Shaft and do a 20 second long panty shot cameo :P |
Terra-K said: P.S Why did suguha act like she didn't know Kirito was the Kirito she knew in the real world?!?! Kirito isn't his real name, it's Kazuto hence she didn't know. |
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Terra-K said: I never really liked Suguha. And they did Kirito so wrong cause once he started beating them they had to pull out arrows and throw swords (really, throwing freaking swords). They should find Asuna by the next episode so I'm so excited too bad it's almost over. Only 2 more episodes. P.S Why did suguha act like she didn't know Kirito was the Kirito she knew in the real world?!?! Lets ignore for a while that she never found out his SAO name.In the last ep it was obvious that she didnt know.Also wouldnt she know who this "mama" was if she knew that Kirito was Kazuto? |
| Some story, at last! A redeeming episode for a very crappy 2nd season. Here's hoping this gives the last few episodes some dramatic momentum. |
| In plenty of animes there's a thing called "breaking barriers no matter how hard they are". Or sth like this. I was scarred of it in this serie, because I don't think it could be a good thing for the anime based on a GAME, functionable as a system. As I hoped, this barrer haven't crushed. Scene with Kirito's flying up and memoryzing Asuna was cute. It really made me almost cry. Ending 5 minutes had beaten me. I thought it will never happen. But it happened and I'm happy with it. Dialogue with sister was mindbreaking. "I betrayed my love with you for character which is you" - it was something like it and make me laugh. But actually it's kind of grotesque. After laughing I found dramatic thing in it. I can't wait for next episode. I don't know how it could end in four episodes now. I don't watch trailer, because I don't like to spoil to myself. Now I think about - will next episode be about relations bro-sis in real world or searching Asuna in game? This serie's going to be really to short. |
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