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Nov 24, 2012 11:49 AM

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Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
 
Nov 24, 2012 11:50 AM

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Oh God tentacles >_<
Well Sugu's hearts been broken, and its going to break all over again pretty soon. Poor girl.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
 
Nov 24, 2012 11:54 AM

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Kirito went all hot-headed as soon as his wife was mentioned.
 
Nov 24, 2012 11:58 AM

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What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.
 
Nov 24, 2012 11:59 AM

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Meh, ok episode the tentacle part wasn't even needed why do they always have to be perverts?

And who takes that long to press the log out button -.-
I did like the school explanation and well that's about it, can't wait for Sugu to get rejected again.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:06 PM

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They skip some parts from Light novel, Kirito was fighting under the water and also the part they save this one monster(forgot the name) underground

ahh yes the tenticle scene...another idea has been given to those sick freaks who makes hentai manga :/

Leafa/Suguha got owned in game and real life xD take a good look at Kirito and Asuna hahahaha "ahems" jk.. :|
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Nov 24, 2012 12:07 PM

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... Tentacle rape...


 
Nov 24, 2012 12:11 PM

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Welp that was a huge skip. Well I hope we get that flashback content in the Mother's Rosario arc.

Otherwise it's the same as I remember it. :)
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:15 PM

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You know even if it's canon, I was really hoping they would take out those tentacle monsters...I mean seriously, they add nothing but distaste to the series. Couldn't they have at least redesigned them, I mean god..
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:15 PM

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Yeah, didn't think Asuna would be getting away that easily. She paid the price with tentacle molestation.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:21 PM

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Pretty good episode whenever Kirito was on the screen interacting with Imouto and answering questions and stuff and so sad for her broken heart if only she that that is Kirito in game and such, however, I guess there is no win for her situation since both in game and out of game he is with Weaksuna. World building with the school stuff was the part I enjoyed most, hope we get a school arc?

The rest was just plain awkward and not that Im not used to it since Ive seen tons of good fanart of my favorite characters and even Kirito with it...but just Asuna and such was plain weird and awkward and kind of creepy, especially when it even went into her dress, did not want to ever see that or even any tentacles with her
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Nov 24, 2012 12:22 PM

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InfiniteDestiny said:
ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


Some people got sick tastes, not much more to be said.


Meh, I wont hold it against the series too much since I've seen worse and it's not the first time I've seen it. It's only when people make comments like that that I get pissed.

Now to wait for the episode to download.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:29 PM

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poor suguha, i feel for her. i know that feeling and it really hurts.. i really like the part when she said, "I'm in love with my brother. But I can't share those feelings. I have to bury them deep in my heart. So that I can forget them someday."
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:33 PM

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Apart from the obviously amazing and emotional episode 14, this is the best episode of the series.

The character development was great, and I'm glad they incorporated the real world again. Also they are moving closer to retrieving Asuna :'D Even if she is being tentacle raped OTL My frustration for Asuna when she was so close to logging out was painful. I JUST WANT HER AND KIRITO TO MAKE BOOTYFUL BABIES ;A;

On another note, Kirito is a perfect human being, my god, if he were real....

This episode was awesome, dying of excitement for next weeks episode!
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:33 PM

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rul said:
What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.


Well, that is what love is
You want to keep your hopes up yet you probably know it won't work out for you

 
Nov 24, 2012 12:37 PM

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Pretty good episode but that tentacle scene was weird.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:37 PM

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Suguha should be upfront and stop it with the QQ. She either gets a yes or a no but she will feel better at then end.
I was hoping for asuna to wake up for a couple of sec as he walked in
huh?
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:45 PM
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What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.


Suguha and Kirito were a very close sister brother team, Kirito then discovered on his own that the family he thought he had was actually his Aunt and Cousin. This discovery, combined with being extremely introverted (and it is implied he had been bullied (both by his grandfather and his classmates for an overly-girly face), he withdrew into the VR world.

Suguha, not knowing why was hurt by this, but before she was mature enough to find out what happened, Kirito was trapped in SAO. Suguha, helped to take care of him during this time as a loving sister. Towards the end of this time her mother told her that Kirito was her cousin.

Knowing this, she realized this was why Kirito had pulled away from her, but with him being trapped, she had no way of knowing what that discovery meant to him. At the same time, she didn't have the chance to confront Kirito to resolve her own feelings, but could only brood upon the ambiguity of the situation.

When Kirito awoke, she couldn't resolve this situation because he was in rehabilitation, and because of Kirito's obsession with Asuna. A lot of people have commented that this seems fake, that of course they would talk about this. That is a misunderstanding of Japanese culture, the Japanese are extremely reserved about such things, and Kirito's family are even more reserved than most. Such things just aren't talked about.

So you have a young girl, just past puberty trying to deal with a ton of conflicting emotions, getting even more emotionally distraught trying to support Kirito in his recovery with no one she trusts to discuss the matter with.

From my reading of the novel, what she really wanted more than romance (though she does have some fantasy and wish about that), was to matter to Kirito, to know that she meant something to him. I think the novel treated this fairly well. We shall see how the animation treats it.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:45 PM

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so kawaii...
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Nov 24, 2012 12:49 PM

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Kirito is so kakkoii.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:56 PM
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BTW I never said IRL nor implied it to be anything but that scene.


You know the first rule of getting out of a hole is to stop digging yourself deeper into the hole.
 
Nov 24, 2012 12:59 PM

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alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute periodically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:01 PM

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It's quite ironic when you think back to that part as the following,

tends to stay way more inside of you.

BTW I am calling it first but I teared up for Suguha at that part and I am not sure for that matter if anyone else did.

And nope nothing would have stopped the emotional flow of that.

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Nov 24, 2012 1:01 PM

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Kirito is so hot-headed as soon as Yui mentions Asuna. Tentacle rape? Eh... really?
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Nov 24, 2012 1:04 PM

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Good episode, cant wait for next week. Kirito gonnna go ham
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:05 PM
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alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute sporadically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong


1) Why would she know she has wings? SAO didn't have them and I doubt Suguo gave her a manual to skim through.
2) She just got out of a game where is she died, she really died. She is still using the same HeadGear system, why would she assume otherwise?
3) Even if she knew she wouldn't actually die, the fall could very well have killed her and a dead character would just be returned to where she was originally, probably letting Suguo know that she had escaped.
4) She knows the only real hope she has to escape is to log out, and where she went had the highest probability of having a Sys Admin console. She had no such assurance down below.
5) The second Sugou knows she escaped he could automatically put her back in the cage, so knowing her time is short, Asuna went for the best option to escape, nearly making it.

Nothing irrational there, just a smart, quick calculation of probability.
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:08 PM
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cksdayoff said:
alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute periodically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong


True... But, if she did that, then I don't think she would be able to log out since her brain is literally trapped inside of the game; there wouldn't be any other option than to go to main console itself that is trapping her. Not to mention, if Sugou knew she had escaped into the world of Alfheim, then couldn't he just rewrite her brain to make her come back to him?
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Nov 24, 2012 1:10 PM

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That tentacle scene was so unnecessary and kinda got me pissed tbh. Even if it's canon, they could've easily changed it to something less perverse >.>.....

Well aside from the stupid scene, the ep was pretty good. I was so hoping for asuna to meet kirito though, even if it was just for a couple of minutes :S. guess it can't be that easy, huh?

3.5/5
 
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BL2W said:
cksdayoff said:
True... But, if she did that, then I don't think she would be able to log out. Not to mention, if Sugou knew she had escaped into the world of Alfheim, then couldn't he just rewrite her brain to make her come back to him?


His goal is to have the ability to rewrite what people think, that is what the experiments on the 300 other players is all about. Suguo has a god complex.

But no, he couldn't do that, but as Sys Admin he could instantaneously teleport her back to her cage with a system command. Remember that ability, because all the readers are hoping that it will be used 2-3 episodes from now :-)
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:13 PM

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That tentacle rape scene was gross.

This show might not be half bad is the romance and characters were actually developed. I almost felt something when Kirito was holding Asuna's hand in the hospital.
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:15 PM
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DAT TENTACLE RAPE
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:18 PM
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DAT TENTACLE RAPE

This lol


They have FOUR episodes to make things right. FOUR FUCKING EPISODES! They need to haul ass from here on out. Seriously, it's as if Asuna's urgency just became backdrop for Suguha's brocon; for me it seems too excessive and unneeded. GET BACK TO GETTING ASUNA!
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:21 PM

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Minus the random, uneeded, and overly-long tentacle scene, this episode was great - its nice to see some slower, character-development focused episodes and Asuna, finally got to do something. The end of episode as always, though, was chilling and awesome.

4/5, with one point deduced for ANOTHER tentacle fanservice scene(since its one of those scenes, alongside all the objectification of Asuna, on why I love SAO arc way way more than alfheim both in anime and ln. Alfheim has its moments but how Asuna is treated for the most of the arc is insulting)

ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


THIS SO MUCH.

Whoever implied that seriously reeks of misogyny. Then again, this is MAL, half the community is sexist.
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Nov 24, 2012 1:31 PM

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This episode was ok. The end of the episode makes me think, they decided to skip some part of the light novel. Unless I'm going crazy, in the novel I think Kirito and Suguha got lost in the underground before reaching the city.

On the other hand, can't wait for next episode, if they follow the novel, it should be quite good.
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:32 PM
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Fucking A-1 cutting out Tonkii. Tentacle scene could have been shorter, oh well.
At least I can look forward to next week, when we will finally get forever Suguha animated, something I've been waiting for since it was clear they would also animate ALO.
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:38 PM

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Only watched 5 mins so far. Did they just skip the entire chapter 5?
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:42 PM

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I hate that this series has become more about tentacle molestation and Suguha's boobs than the actual storyline.
curiouser and curiouser :)
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:43 PM

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Tentacle monsters, tentacle rap-ish scenes. DAFUQ?

If there won't be some serious brain-rewrite action in the coming episodes. I can easily say that SAO -> ALO. And the SAO arc was meh. I don't think i will rate this Anime higher than a 6.5, seriously... And this Anime had the potential to be a good Anime...
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:44 PM
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YES!!! LEAFA FINALLY KNOWS THAT THERE IS IS 'MOMMY' THAT EXIST!!!! how much i want her to know that!!!!

Just why didn't Asuna press that button i bit quicker?!?!?!

GO ON KIRITO!!! GO AND FIND AND SAVE AZUNA!!!
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:46 PM

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*-* Asuna was too CLOSEEEE to loggin out, and Kirito was right there in the hospital agsdfo;agksjdf ugh!!! so frustraiting

And a School for the SAO students? Lisbeth, Silica, Sachi, everyone at the same school that would be cool to see :DD
 
Nov 24, 2012 1:56 PM

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It wasn't a bad episode (better than previous Alfheim ones) and Asuna actually appeared for more than 20 seconds so that was nice.
Not a fan of suguha and I'm still (somewhat) patiently awaiting the episode where Kirito finally saves Asuna

And I still don't understand how people can enjoy tentacle fanservice =.=
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Nov 24, 2012 2:03 PM

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Good episode, but I hated the tentacle part.. It was a bit akward..
Stupid cliffhanger, can't wait for the next episode O-O
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:05 PM

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Nov 24, 2012 2:07 PM

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Damn, the ending of this episode was so badass :) i loved it
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:07 PM

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I guess this is getting interesting....
but if it has the shitty ending like it did when they died in SAO game, I'm gonna drop the score of the anime even more -.-
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:11 PM
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gotta wait for next week again :(
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:15 PM

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I was really pissed that Asuna didn't pressed that button a little bit quickier, the slime thingies were so creepy, and tbh, I didn't found the tentacle part fun or interesting at all... it was really disturbing, but ok, I can live with at least that little.

Also, I feel sorry for Suguha, I don't really care about her tbh but it must be really awful to feel heartbroken both IRL and in game because of the same person, poor thing.
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:27 PM

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Aside from the tentacle thing, good episode, as for the skipping over jotunheimr, they could just make it a separate episode or stand alone prelude up to Caliber SS in the next season. Yes we all know if any anime is getting a second season it is likely this one, out of all the other anime currently airing.
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:32 PM

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Amazing how Suguha can't recognize Kirito irl and ingame when they have so many similar features, disregarding the hair. i mean cmon.. (i know they can design how their avatar looks ingame), but atleast be a bit suspicious >_>
 
Nov 24, 2012 2:36 PM
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the alo part is way better than the sao part
and i like sugu better than asuna.
if Sao doesn't get a sequel then it would be weird to end the anime with only two female leads.the ln had atleast.
i wish for 2nd season.
now about this episode,
it was average compared to the last episode.only contained with two siblings emotions.i am waiting for the showdown.

 
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