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Nov 6, 2008 9:49 AM
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Sebastian was not inferior to that (gay) Shinigami at all.
Why did Ciel had to make a big show entering the church? I understand Madame needs her red, but it was disturbing for the others. Otherwise a lot of talking this episode :v.
Nov 6, 2008 10:10 AM
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Cool! Want to see more of this. Great episode!

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Nov 10, 2008 9:26 PM
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Nice fight with Sebastian and Grell! A downer that Madam Red is gone now though. The funeral was, in a way, pretty sad. :(
Nov 12, 2008 6:55 AM
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I want subs for this ep, asap ! :P tee-hee... OR gief japanese lessons.

Anyway, great series so far.
Nov 13, 2008 4:15 AM
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Great episode, Sebastian is probably the most likeable demon I've seen. I laughed hard at the "I want to have your babies" from Greil, awesome to see that in an anime.

The funeral scene was beautiful and very well done and I liked it, it shows that Ciel isn't a completely cold-blooded bastard. Sebastian is a cold-blooded bastard, no matter how much I like him or how much they the producers try to hide it.
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Nov 13, 2008 10:38 AM
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tht has to be the best kuroshitsuji episode EVER!!! soooo epic......i LOVED it soooo much.....this show is amaiznggg...
ah so he wants to be king! thats his goal! understand now :D
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Nov 13, 2008 11:28 AM
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kuroshiroi said:
The funeral scene was beautiful and very well done and I liked it, it shows that Ciel isn't a completely cold-blooded bastard. Sebastian is a cold-blooded bastard, no matter how much I like him or how much they the producers try to hide it.


More or less. The music in the background was perfect as well, from the funeral through the end of the episode as well. And personally, I liked Ciel's big entrance, it suits him imo.

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Nov 13, 2008 12:35 PM
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Another awesome episode. Love the way they put humor into the fight

the funeral was awesome too
Nov 13, 2008 12:42 PM
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Loved the funeral scene, the ending was pretty wicked.
Really cant wait to see the next episode.

kuroshiroi said:
I laughed hard at the "I want to have your babies" from Greil, awesome to see that in an anime.

Yeah me too lol!!
Nov 13, 2008 1:54 PM
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HoaRy said:

Why did Ciel had to make a big show entering the church? I understand Madame needs her red, but it was disturbing for the others.
I don't think he cares much for the others' opinions. He's quite self-centered in this kind of things.

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the fight between greil and sebastian was cool. as always, i love the faces sebastian makes whenever greil says something gay. Sebastian also show his sadistic side by commenting on how enjoyable it was to do step on someone.. haha
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kuroshiroi said:
I laughed hard at the "I want to have your babies" from Greil, awesome to see that in an anime.


Haha I agree too! That was awesome. Grell was totally gay for Sebastian.
I loved this episode! It was dark and bittersweet at the same time.
Nov 13, 2008 7:38 PM
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Not a bad episode i just have a problem using humor in places that doesnt need it, why try to make the audience laugh after the villian has just killed a whore and the madam you cant lighten the mood there it just seems out of place i dont know maybe its just me
Nov 13, 2008 10:50 PM

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Not a bad episode i just have a problem using humor in places that doesnt need it, why try to make the audience laugh after the villian has just killed a whore and the madam you cant lighten the mood there it just seems out of place i dont know maybe its just me


the humor wasn't there to lighten the mood after Madame Red's death ^^;; but it's true that 'random comic relief' isn't a technique that everyone will like. i personally love that aspect of Kuroshitsuji.
Nov 13, 2008 11:06 PM

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I WILL HAVE YOUR BABIES GRELL!

This is the second anime that has been able to make me laugh and then start crying within 10 seconds. Excellent.

I need to slap Shitsen with a trout for calling Grell "Greil" and leaving out an important word in a scene, however. Otherwise, I loved how they did "Sebby" and the two catchphrases.

Sebastian's wife was in this episode! Ftw.
Nov 14, 2008 2:48 AM

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windy said:
I need to slap Shitsen with a trout for calling Grell "Greil" and leaving out an important word in a scene, however. Otherwise, I loved how they did "Sebby" and the two catchphrases.
Which one is used in England, Grell or Greil? To me, Greil sounds better but I guess all the scanlators have been using Grell?

My Japanese listening skills failed at hearing why Shinsen decided to use Sebby, all I could hear was Sebastian from Greil.
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kuroshiroi said:
windy said:
I need to slap Shitsen with a trout for calling Grell "Greil" and leaving out an important word in a scene, however. Otherwise, I loved how they did "Sebby" and the two catchphrases.
Which one is used in England, Grell or Greil? To me, Greil sounds better but I guess all the scanlators have been using Grell?

My Japanese listening skills failed at hearing why Shinsen decided to use Sebby, all I could hear was Sebastian from Greil.
well it wouldn't make sense for it to be greil, the katakana is グレル which has no "i" sound in it. unless i'm mispronouncing greil...>_> in which case ignore me, as i do not know for sure if the manga-ka ever writes it 'grell'.

the nickname makes total sense if you see it written out. sebastian's name is written セバスチャン, and the ending is "chan". so grell decides to call him sebas-chan, (セバスちゃん) or "sebby". haha.
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windy said:

Western names in Japan are rarely spelled correctly using Katakana but that's beside the point. Grell or Greil, both seem fine but for some reason Greil sounds more natural, it flows better.

Thanks for the explanation on that and also on Sebas-chan, that is indeed hilariously clever :)
Nov 14, 2008 5:40 PM

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Loved this episode. <3 The funeral procession was beautiful, and I especially liked the ending images of Ciel and the chess pieces. And the bgm~ my god, I can't wait until the OST comes out.
In my opinion, the comedic scenes in the beginning of the episode weren't just random comic relief to lighten the mood. They served to show that Grell is essentially a coldhearted bastard who doesn't give a damn about killing his partner in crime, and would just laugh it off. Not that that's a bad thing, because he's too damn fabulous to hate. <3

Grell's name was romanized as "Grelle Sutcriff" once in a magazine, so I guess Grelle is his official name. Japanese romanizations aren't always accurate(lol "Sutcriff"), but I'd say it's good enough. I don't know where Shitsen gets "Griel" from though, as there isn't an "i" in either the katakana or the pronunciation. Things like that annoy me to no end, which is why I'm sticking with A-Thryst for archiving.
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Nov 14, 2008 7:39 PM

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The scene with the roses and flash backs was sweet :3, and Will the Shinigami <3 made of awesome =D part where he caught the chain saw was awesome loved the chess part at the end too ^_^
Nov 14, 2008 7:56 PM

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Amazing episode, this is getting more interesting. But as an awesome arc has ended i guess next episode wont be as great.

Grelle is quite the character im so glad Sebby didnt kill him. Also! Ishida (Will...?) enters!
Nov 14, 2008 7:59 PM

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The theme with chess is awesome~
Loved the funeral scene. And the fight at the beginning amused me xD
Keeps getting better!
Nov 14, 2008 8:23 PM

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That was the best funeral scene ever.

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Ahh what a beautiful funeral scene.

Also, loved the dramatic ending. The music was perfect for that scene between Ciel and Sebastian.
Nov 15, 2008 1:06 AM
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dunno if I should be mad or sorry or love grell for his humor or laugh at his patheticness >< im liking that character! x3 too bad for madame red though... i went all teary eyed during that funeral scene Y_Y and ciel's "im all so mighty" attitude is jst pure win <3 sebastian's dedication.. priceless
Nov 15, 2008 4:22 AM

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I liked the battle is the beginning best, and the end about pawns and chess.
Is it just me or does Greil looks likes Cross (DGM)? Just the looks. Ceil also sorta looks like Lavi. Sebby looks like that guy with the eyepatch girl from KHR.
...does this mean everyone but Sebby's gonna die in the end? D=
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The dialog between Sebby and Shinigami made me LMAO.
The funaral scene was one of the best. And I just love that creepy undertaker. xD
Nov 15, 2008 7:39 AM
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Can Grelle come back? D: I really hope that's not the last we see from him. He was sinister, but so much fun!

Anyways, I'm interested in what Sebastain's true motives are. I like him, don't get me wrong, I'm just not sure how much I trust his character lol.
Well, Grelle isn't dead. He was just taken back for violating procedures. So yeah, nothing really stops him from showing up in the future. Sadly not as a butler.

Sebastian is obviously not to be trusted. He's a demon, and he's only bound by the contract. Once that is fullfilled, Ciel's will be his prey to take. Ciel has explained this several times, each time adding new bits to it. This time he added there's a "goal to fulfill" before Sebastian can have Ciel's soul.

Nov 15, 2008 12:57 PM

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Grell = awesome! I really hope he comes back.

But the anime's almost caught up with the manga. Wonder what will they do next. A bunch of random filler? How many episodes is this series going to be?
Nov 15, 2008 2:47 PM
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I know he's not dead, I'm just wondering if they are going to find a way to work Grelle into the plot line again ^^;

It's weird to me though, because despite all that I swear sometimes it seems Sebastian actually does care for Ciel, but maybe not, I could just be mistaking him fulfilling his duties to caring.
I get your point. Yes, it might be hard. Well, he was a rogue to begin with, so perhaps he will scheme his way back into the plot somehow. We can only hope, since he was the best enemy yet.

And the anime has done a great job at keeping Sebatian pretty ambiguous as to whether he's just fulfilling his contract or truly caring. But Sebastian also has a sense of sadism as well by what I can perceive (especially his smile is quite chilling). So maybe, he just thinks it's amusing to act this way.

Nov 16, 2008 8:52 AM

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Somehow Shinigami organization works better than in Bleach. Must be the British administration.

Great episode.
Nov 17, 2008 8:54 AM

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Does anyone else think that the Undertaker looks a little like Greil?

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Not a bad episode i just have a problem using humor in places that doesnt need it, why try to make the audience laugh after the villian has just killed a whore and the madam you cant lighten the mood there it just seems out of place i dont know maybe its just me
the humor wasn't there to lighten the mood after Madame Red's death ^^;; but it's true that 'random comic relief' isn't a technique that everyone will like. i personally love that aspect of Kuroshitsuji.
Personally, I usually don't like bipolar anime like that, but Kuroshitsuji does it right somehow.

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Somehow Shinigami organization works better than in Bleach. Must be the British administration..
IMO, Shinigami organizations are always full of crap because they tend to be overplayed (ie Bleach). Death Note and Kuroshitsuji didn't/don't allow them to take over the plot, so all's OK.
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Nov 17, 2008 11:25 AM

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Ahh, that background music at the end was amazing! So powerful!

God I love this anime and manga. Its become my favourite of the season so far. The animation is really great and it follows well with the manga...However, is it just me or did I miss the whole part about Grell mention Sebastians parents in the manga? Did he say that?! I was like... O_o when I heard Grell say that.

Intruiging...
Nov 20, 2008 1:20 PM

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And a good end to madem red. I thought the battle was horrible, but atleast it was closed right through the funeral.

I did love them singing "london bridges falling down" in the middle of the funeral.
Nov 21, 2008 5:51 AM

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oh this anime is getting interesting ^__^

Nov 22, 2008 4:57 AM

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great soundtrack. like the background music and the flashback was great. also, the relationship between ciel and sebastien is really interesting. sounds like they don't really trust each other hahahahah!!
Nov 22, 2008 5:17 PM

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I just LOL'ed at the "Romeo & Juliet" thing and I almost cried at Madamme's funeral, I really loved her character.

Hope that Grell and William show up again!!!
Nov 24, 2008 2:24 PM

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Also, loved the dramatic ending. The music was perfect for that scene between Ciel and Sebastian.

I knoww! the OST just keeps on getting better and better and better ^^ I have to say, I think that final scene with the whole chess metaphor and everything was my favourite so far
Nov 24, 2008 3:22 PM

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Very touching finale to this arc. The fight was okay, but the stylized funeral sequence and the warning from Sebastian at the end made this episode pretty freaking awesome.
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Dec 7, 2008 10:23 AM

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A great episode. The ending scene at the grave was probably my favorite part! Can't wait to see more development
Dec 9, 2008 7:13 PM

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awesome ep!! Grell is made of awesomeness x3
does any1 know if he is gonna come bac anytime soon?
Dec 9, 2008 9:51 PM

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Oh, man, I cried at the funeral.

But I didn't quite get Ciel's part with "I will not hesitate."
Really great episodes. This double-faced Sebastian never fails to swoon me. And Grell will surely come back. He loves Sebas-chan too much not to. :P

Man I liked the carriage full of roses. "I want to have your babies". LMAO Yeah, get in the line Grell, we all want to have his babies. Back of the line buddy!

Jan 1, 2009 8:12 PM

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Good episode.
Jan 17, 2009 1:36 PM

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The scene with the roses and flash backs was nice. This is one of my favorite episodes so far.


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Great episode, the fight was serious and funny at the same time
Jan 30, 2009 10:44 AM

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Another brilliant episode.
That funeral scene was so damn sad but beautiful in it's own way. Especially with the flashback and Ciel's entrance. I thought that was a nice touch. I'm really going to miss Madamn Red even if she was only in the first few episodes, she's one of the character who I'd probably grow to be extremely fond of had she'd lasted longer.

End of the episode was creepy, that chess analogy sent chills down my spine. Also, and don't kill me for this, it kind of reminded me of Lelouch, apart from I hope that Ciel uses his pawns in a more successful way and doesn't end up like Lulu.

Ciel and Sebastian are absolute love <333 Sebastian is such a mysterious character aswell. I'm dying to see his back story.
Mar 15, 2009 1:53 AM

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I wonder why I haven't watched Kuroshitsuji earlier. This Grell arc was pretty awesome, and this was a nice conclusion to it. Love it.
Mar 16, 2009 4:29 PM

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Oh God, is it impossible to make an anime without some sick creep anymore...
Ii tenki desu ne...
May 16, 2009 8:51 PM
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mmmm the plot's becomin pretty interesting
but i realised i hate the way sebas-chan (lol) says "yes, my lord"
everytime he says it i jst cringe....
*shrugs
Jun 18, 2009 5:27 AM

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Omfg no. I always knew Grell had unhealthy feelings for Sebastian, but this is disturbing XDD
'- You send me shivering Sebastian! If it was your child, I feel like I could give birth to it!
- Please stop it. How disgusting.' o.O

Ahahaha, Tanaka on the 'tape' XDDD and Real Tanaka, yay!

'I don't enjoy being chopped up, but it doesn't sound bad the other way.' ...Sebastian=win.
And Sebby's 'yes, my lord' reminds me of Code Geass every time I hear it Dx Same goes for chess analogies.
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